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Black Panther Wakanda Forever Full Movie Breakdown & Analysis by Erik Voss! Shop Inkbox tattoos at bit.ly/3tfMBaZ
Black Panther Wakanda Forever was crafted to be rich with detail and deeper layers of meaning, from Shuri's journey through her grief for her brother T'Challa to the mutant history of Namor and Talokan. Erik Voss breaks down all the MCU Easter Eggs and cameos, the surprise ending and post-credit scene, and the deeper themes of grief and vengeance. How does Wakanda Forever close out Phase 4 while setting up Phase 5 titles like Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania, Ironheart, Secret Invasion, Captain America New World Order, and Thunderbolts? What's the deeper meaning of the Killmonger cameo on the Ancestral Plane Throne Room?
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You missed when Shuri and Okoye were in Riri's dorm, and Okoye said "good luck defeating [Namor] with a heater", which ends up being exactly Shuri's plan in the final act
@ms.rae01
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha great catch.
@DarthRaptor22
Жыл бұрын
Yeah he missed the whole "ashy forehead" comment too!
@DayliteRaps
Жыл бұрын
😂
@YungDripGod
Жыл бұрын
@@DarthRaptor22 lol I loved this scene
@1LunchMan
Жыл бұрын
@@DarthRaptor22 I think the "head makeup presented its own problems" comment was to address that part without getting too much into it. Haha
When Shuri told namor: "Vengeance has consumed us, we must not let it consume our people." That line devastated me in theaters, being the line T'Challa said to Zemo at the end of Civil War, they both went on a very similar journey after the loss of a parent. So gripping.
@Westcoastspidey
Жыл бұрын
I didn't catch that was the same line, but damn I loved that line
@cyberwolf7716
Жыл бұрын
@@Westcoastspidey it’s not exactly the same but it’s very similar
@utkarshmehta3674
Жыл бұрын
very watchful observation good sir
@mdub2000
Жыл бұрын
Wow thats very george lucas letting the story line “rhyme” like that❤
@DavidbarZeus1
Жыл бұрын
I realized the same thing as I left the theater, that the two of them go through a VERY similar arc in their movies
Did you notice that both Killmonger and Shuri are separated by the lush ancestrial plane by a window. They both see a place where they can commune with the ancestors, but it is unattainable due to their blinding anger and focus on the place of their trauma.
@lanaychambers1604
Жыл бұрын
Yes! Amazing call out
@hardfiled
Жыл бұрын
Ooh that’s good. I hadnt considered that on Shuri’s terms
@famousgoldentouch
Жыл бұрын
Well observed 👍👌
@aceman0000099
Жыл бұрын
I would more likely say Shuri's lack of belief in the ancestral plane would do that
Seeing my beloved Haiti be shown in such a positive light was nearly as overwhelming as the Chadwick tributes
@UnknownAz
Жыл бұрын
I had the same thought! That's where my dad is from and he always gets so frustrated when he only ever sees Haiti portrayed negatively.
@vjvdyvvbh9yearsago941
Жыл бұрын
agreed
@kingforaday8725
Жыл бұрын
Why dont you live there?
@IronIsKing
Жыл бұрын
@@kingforaday8725 Who said he doesn't?
@kingforaday8725
Жыл бұрын
@@IronIsKing I do.
The opening sequence got me good. My theater was SILENT while the logo played. It was such a touching tribute to both the person and the character. ☹️🖤💜
@theninjacat7200
Жыл бұрын
In the theatre last night, the movie got an ovation at the end.
@helwartank4193
Жыл бұрын
My theater was also silent, I live in Mexico City. R.I.P. Wakanda's King
@brysonius
Жыл бұрын
In my small town in a full theatre, the silence was honored completely and it really hit me hard.
@sherylmccormick
Жыл бұрын
Same - except for sniffles (mine included)
@spoiledsalad1851
Жыл бұрын
My theater was also dead silent during the logo part.
I think this really capped off Phase 4 nicely. It made me realize that the main overarching theme of phase 4 was laid out in the WandaVision series finale, Visions line: "What is grief, if not--love persevering?" And that really hits home in this film.
@MeatNMarvel
Жыл бұрын
Same! I cried when I first watched it. Despite some small blunders with production, marvel studios has really done a great job laying the foundation for the next 2 phases, while also having its own arch and meaning, helping us all move on from all of the losses of phase 3 .
@Juscallmemav
Жыл бұрын
Might get that tattooed to honor dead relatives
@heynope4304
Жыл бұрын
I never usually cry in movies and shows cuz I know they’re not real but this got me 1% tearing up so ye very sad. But I didn’t cry..
@idanlewenhoff2295
Жыл бұрын
Incredible writing
@lights4bre890
Жыл бұрын
Amen.
The correlation between Shuri and Killmonger is so real. Ryan Coogler is a God damn poet. The only difference between good and bad is a choice, the choice between what you do.
@GeeklyGoods
Жыл бұрын
Isn't he?! I didn't even THINK about it until he put it in the film and that scene played out... then you realize how much they have in common!
One Easter egg I noticed that you didn’t talk about one was the license plate number on the van that Ross was in. The number was CB112976! That was Chadwick’s birthday!! November 29, 1976. I love that they put this in here ❤❤ Love you guys and that the content you make!!! WAKANDA FOREVER!!!!
@ironkoenigman3258
Жыл бұрын
Very nice Easter egg. Wakanda Forever! (crosses arms) 🙂
@justafewthingssublimationcraft
Жыл бұрын
I caught that as well! ❤
@shaunegan4926
Жыл бұрын
Great pick up!
Namor aka Kukulkan was maybe one of the best antagonists of the MCU franchise. His powers were much greater than I expected and his background story was really good!
@TheEscuverian
Жыл бұрын
and he wasn’t disposed of in just one movie like gorr the god butcher
@azziahrussell38
Жыл бұрын
And mind u this is only his basic powers he will get stronger as he’s in more movies
@m.ibrahim_2501
Жыл бұрын
thank you for saying antagonist, cause he 100% was not the villain of the movie. he was entirely justified throughout in my opinion (kidna similar to Killmonger) just with occasional slips in judgement. the same could be said of the Wakandan leadership in this movie. both sides flawed, but eventually understand that they need to stand together
@FireJach
Жыл бұрын
@@m.ibrahim_2501 He is the villain because he wanted to kill the entire human race
@joelara3750
Жыл бұрын
Hes the villain because he brutally killed relentlessly, including shuris mom. Hes poetrayed as being nearly Unstoppable, yet shuri panther defeats him? Thats stupid. The heart shaped herb doesn't make you thor level strong either, its more akin to making you captain america level strong
Actually the joke with Riri’s dorm door is that it says “solve or don’t knock”, and obviously it’s an unsolvable equation.
Another thing I noticed was that during the bridge fight between Attuma and Okoye, Namora tosses the water grenade thingy to Attuma and he uses his hip to hit it into Okoye in a similar fashion to how that Mayan ball game is played.
@vis_2340
Жыл бұрын
Saw the movie in 3d and that part got me lmao I straight up jumped in my seat
@polivepea
Жыл бұрын
Yep
@cynco61
Жыл бұрын
Damn. Good catch
The movie was BEAUTIFULLY done. I’m so glad that the director allowed us to grieve with the movie, verses pretend like it never happened. I loved the fact that the director chose an actor that in close relationship to that (Spanish) culture as the antagonist and didn’t show them to be weak as a different culture. A lot of teachable moments in this as well.
@Native_Creation
Жыл бұрын
Mayan culture*
@leonardonunez2228
Жыл бұрын
@@Native_Creation Mesoamerican culture.(southern mexican culture)
@GeeklyGoods
Жыл бұрын
Amen! Coogler really allowed for us to be connected with Chadwick, such a tragic thing to happen and he really dedicated this to him!
When M'baku called Okoye a "bald headed demon". I couldn't contain myself in the theater. I lost it, it made me laugh out loud 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@sherylmccormick
Жыл бұрын
Yes! The theater audience I was part of cracked up, too.
@FranklinInTheField
Жыл бұрын
@@sherylmccormick it was so unexpected but hit so hard. He didn't have to roast her like that. I missed what happened or what was said right after because I couldn't stop laughing.
@polivepea
Жыл бұрын
Same
@lorzliedevallon5810
Жыл бұрын
Apparently that line was improvised!!! Respect to Winston Duke. Lol. The two seem to have a great relationship even off screen.
@J.O.R.D
Жыл бұрын
If improvised even better, probably one of the best lines of the movie
Letitia Wright and Angela Bassett both had Oscar-level performances, and the others’ acting was phenomenal too. This movie was incredible.
@charlesharry7901
Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah agree
@AirbenderHawk
Жыл бұрын
Indeed! They gave it their all!
@lssjbroly_YT
Жыл бұрын
I can agree with one of of those choices. Angela Bassett did beautifully.
@TheOnlyRick3
Жыл бұрын
@@lssjbroly_YT I also liked Letitia Wright tho
@sonudas-dq3et
Жыл бұрын
Angela Basset probably gave the best performance by an actress in MCU history
The surprise moments (Killmonger, Ramonda's death) were truly unexpected but really gave the movie gravity. I could FEEL the grief from Ramonda, Shuri, Okoye, Nakia, even Namor's grief for his mother. Very solid MCU movie, not just for phase 4. I was in my feelings the whole time and I love when a movie does that. Two very enthusiastic thumbs up for Mr. Coogler and th whole cast! Great ending to this phase of the MCU. Now bring on Kang!!!!
@JC_Cali
Жыл бұрын
It also made me feel like anyone really could die!
@sunflowersongs9403
Жыл бұрын
Same same same. You summarized exactly how I feel
I just wanted to hop on here and say thank you for creating these breakdowns. I'm totally blind, and while descriptive audio (an accessibility feature that aurally describes what's happening in a movie/any kind of video content) is great, it can't pick up everything. Videos like this make the movie experience even more accessible to blind and visually impaired people. And most trailers don't even have descriptive audio, so your trailer breakdowns are even more help. Please, never stop doing what you're doing! Wakanda forever🙅♀️!
@J.O.R.D
Жыл бұрын
Never stop what you’re doing and that is being a great human being, not letting your situation stop you in ways that others would! Wakanda Forever 🙅🏾♂️
@Coleryy
Жыл бұрын
@@J.O.R.D not sure if he can see this
@J.O.R.D
Жыл бұрын
@@Coleryy savage
@v2kforever940
Жыл бұрын
@@Coleryy how he use emoji’s 😂
@sinandsayn
Жыл бұрын
Stay strong
I really liked that when the opening credits scenes played it was quiet. During other parts, when silence sequences played it was also silent. It had the very respectful intended effect of a moment of silence. Truly such a great film and tribute. Also - I really liked that this touched on the colonization of Latin America. I also liked the metaphor that as people of color we sometimes fight each other, but in the end we must remember to support one another to end centuries of oppression.
@KeeKeeSoto
Жыл бұрын
Just said this to my husband 💯
@krystalashley4888
Жыл бұрын
Best comment 🤎
@shialebeef7274
Жыл бұрын
Great insight and Analysis. No sarcasm
@JC_Cali
Жыл бұрын
Yes, this absolutely!
@markchristopheryates6718
Жыл бұрын
I cried during that silence... It was very powerful..
I wasn't really sure about Shuri being a great lead character at first, but this movie really changed my mind. Jumped up to one of my favorite characters in MCU.
@ybicho12
Жыл бұрын
Agree with absolutely every word!
@joshbrosh6626
Жыл бұрын
Given time and good script any character can be an good lead
@stancinatti8198
Жыл бұрын
Same I was unsure but idk why leticia is Amazing
@TraceyOfficial
Жыл бұрын
Nice, and it also lends itself to Namor's quote about really broke ln people being great leaders.
@josephlittle527
Жыл бұрын
@@TraceyOfficial don’t take what he said at all seriously because it is not true at all
I think one thing I like is how throughout the film Shuri talks down on her A.I and not treating him with respect but as she tries to recreate the heart shaped herb she says please to him. It's small but I thought it was quite a sweet detail
@JohnWick-oh2ud
Ай бұрын
This is a reach
Letitia Wright stepped up in this film and did an amazing job, everybody did but she really showed how much she cared about this film.
I love that the theme of phase 4 can be described as two things “What is grief, if not love persevering?” And self love. With the whole idea of the multiverse, the main form of personal development that can come with that is learning to love the life you live. Like Wong’s line in MoM, “sometimes I wonder of my other lives, yet I remain eternally grateful in this one.”
@Ikajo
Жыл бұрын
I'd say the Loki series embodies the whole self-love idea as well. And not because of Sylvie, but rather Loki himself getting over his self-loathing.
@Etereys
Жыл бұрын
Fantastic insights
@dominacus
Жыл бұрын
Absolute spot-on reflections of a phase 4, that in time, will be seen as pivotal to this story that is the MCU.
@BHunterZeroEX
Жыл бұрын
That is a fantastic view, not one I thought of earlier, I was focused on multiverse and that its more like phase 1 than anything else
@Sw4ggieBe4r
Жыл бұрын
@@Ikajo agreed he literally falls in love with a variant of himself lol
The fact that Marvel bluntly says that the CIA is a shady organisation in this film still makes me laugh
@dominiquejones3805
Жыл бұрын
Gotta love it
@aceman0000099
Жыл бұрын
It's an open secret that the CIA does terrible shit. Or maybe just common knowledge
This movie was both good and a very respectful tribute to Chadwick Boseman! 🙏
@theninjacat7200
Жыл бұрын
The theatre I was in last night gave the movie an ovation at the end. Unbelievable!
@CancelHappiness
Жыл бұрын
Twas mid as hell just like the rest of Phase Bore
@nottherealben
Жыл бұрын
@@CancelHappiness ok
@togeisadorable4900
Жыл бұрын
@@CancelHappiness 🤓
I thought that the whole grieving moments were done so incredibly well and authentic. It was such a great move to let the intro be absolutely silent as it truly confronted us with the absence of Chadwick/T’challa
@jeannellecollins6767
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you
The way the trailer showed scenes of Shuri in the funeral garments but finding out watching the movie it was 2 separate occasions really messed with my head and feelings 😮💨 10/10 movie
@XavierTheRed
Жыл бұрын
Plus knowing there's probably other herbs out there is super interesting
Shuri seeing Killmonger was weirdly the most relieving moment of the movie. Also my fave scene of the film.
@dominiquejones3805
Жыл бұрын
U gone take care of business
You could hear a pin drop in my theatre during that opening sequence. I just had silent tears streaming down my face during all those shots of Chadwick. So powerful.
@ARaebow
Жыл бұрын
Yeah my mom and I were crying when that scene showed. That funeral scene was heavy 😩
@TheOnlyRick3
Жыл бұрын
@@ARaebow I was crying in the end
Namor yielding to Shuri is like a parallel to M'Baku yielding to T'Challa in the waterfall fight. It was never just about their personal agendas (vengeance) or proving who's stronger. It was about the people who will suffer if the war were to continue and escalate.
@GeeklyGoods
Жыл бұрын
Very great parallel to draw! And the people of Wakanda always pull up a seat and talk with their enemies instead of killing them most of the time. Beautiful humanity in them.
@Jenna1394
Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! So many people don't get this. Killing lone wolves or gang leaders has no major impact in the same way that killing the leader of a nation.
I cried so much watching this movie. I truly believe Angela basset deserves an Oscar nomination for her performance.
I saw this in theaters last night and two things of the many I thought were great. 1 the dedication to Chadwick Boseman was very touching everyone in the theater started clapping. 2 while they did not bring Killmonger back to life I'm still glad he had a presence in this movie and Shuri was almost possessed by him in her quest for vengeance against Namor. I also loved the connection (romantic or not) between Shuri and Namor when she goes to Talokan great movie
Also sad you didn't mention how Shuri mirrored almost one for one T'Challa's line in Civil War about vengeance towards Namor.
@annprimo742
Жыл бұрын
Yesssss….that line was very emotional
@1rickopotamus
Жыл бұрын
Yesss so good
At first I was annoyed of how Shuri quickly brushed off being impaled by a vibranium spear, but then later thinking about it, it was actually foreshadowed on in the bridge fight scene, where the talokan soldiers were cut down and impaled by a vibranium spear but got up moments later. Maybe the herb that the talokan and Shuri used might grant some regenerative abilities.
@dav1d9
Жыл бұрын
One word, killmonger
@sue-elle7886
Жыл бұрын
That's how I explained it to my nephew. I brought it back to the bridge scene.
@truxhful
Жыл бұрын
You might be onto something with the “regen ability” and leading into the future of mutants 👀
@realsarang
Жыл бұрын
makes sense as to why they focused on that in the scene
@buti3906
Жыл бұрын
Wow good catch
The symbol in Shuri's funeral dress is an Adinkra symbol from Ghana. That particular symbol is called Nyame Dua in Twi literally translated "God's tree".A symbol of God's presence and protection.
@38:00 I like how both Shuri and Namor reflecting back to their mothers while close to death is like Peter's vision of his mother when he grabs the Power Stone in the 1st Guardians.
Shuris character development was done so well!!
@thembanitheone
Жыл бұрын
If you enjoyed it, it's probably because you've enjoyed T'Challa's character development in previous films. It's the same movie again.
@nottherealben
Жыл бұрын
@@thembanitheone ok
@Kryptonization
Жыл бұрын
@@thembanitheone pretty much
Idk why but I need a Namor movie. He was so cool in the movie. Even as a kid he was insanely powerful. I want to see a deep dive (get it) of more namor stuff.
@qcrew2938
Жыл бұрын
I couldn't believe how badass he was in this movie..... I put him right up there with Heath Ledger's joker
@qcrew2938
Жыл бұрын
@Lukas Ramos They changed it because it would be too similar to Aquaman
@theledgelord4282
Жыл бұрын
@Lukas Ramos I like it better
@yorutsuki1866
Жыл бұрын
Idk if a namor movie would work tho to me hes better off just a supporting charavter or an antagonist of some sort
@R-A-H_-
Жыл бұрын
I loved his character for some reason, I’m so happy they didn’t kill him
The opening sequence was just pure goosebumps. The whole theatre was just feeling it and you could tell, and how at the end you hear Shuri’s silent cry, my god the tears! 😢
Ryan Coogler is really a down to earth soul. He is so humble and respectful.
@GeeklyGoods
Жыл бұрын
ISn't he?! Worthy of all the love and respect!
@MusicLover-ge5rx
Жыл бұрын
@@GeeklyGoods He surely is ❤
During the title card, I loved how it was silent. It was so silent in my theater you could hear pen drops. It was so beautiful and breathtaking.
The silent montage of Chadwick Boseman at the end had me 😭😭
This film ends the phase 4 in a beautiful way. Everyone was phenomenal. I surely can't wait for a Namor film and Okoye's character arc in Midnight Angel.
@GeeklyGoods
Жыл бұрын
Doesn't it?! Beautiful conclusion to a phase with a main theme of grief. Can't wait to head into Phase 5!
3:50 Honestly, that intro was the most powerful Marvel intro I have ever seen. That moment of silence hit hard and was indeed an outstanding tribute
I was literally crying for THE movie. (AS MOST PEOPLE ARE MAD AT ME FOR SAYING THE WHOLE MOVIE) Such a good film and so sad. The actors were amazing and the respect to Chadwick Boseman was shown very well, may he Rest In Peace. 🖤
@DatBoiChris420
Жыл бұрын
You lying lmfao wasn't nothing to cry about after the 1st 10 mins lmfao
@MrZeeks
Жыл бұрын
lmaoo u were crying? no wonder why the dumbass behind me kept sniffling
@ThePughski
Жыл бұрын
Stop lying
@claire4378
Жыл бұрын
Same it was a beautiful tribute 🖤✊🏽
@srameypr
Жыл бұрын
I think I'll be crying when I see it, too. Don't know why people are posting mean comments to your post.
I loved seeing Killmonger again in the sequel. It was great seeing them one by one return, in some shape or form.
@BigVladisBack
Жыл бұрын
And they all came in perfectly. Great characters and they all grew.
@michaeld.lancaster4953
Жыл бұрын
One the many scenes that stuck out to me in the movie
Namor was my favourite part of the movie, he was such an interesting character I can't wait to see more of him. Also makes me sad about how good Gorr could have been in another directors hands.
@grizzzymd
Жыл бұрын
Invalid
@Typod95
Жыл бұрын
Valid
I love that Marvel is exploring this because it couldn't have come at a better time from during and post-covid where so many have lost loved ones or other reasons they've passed and helping others learn how to navigate that while life has changed in general. I think Marvel has been very smart about that now than they have ever been and it works. They make us think about what is important in life. I appreciate that.
When Ramonda and Shuri are at the beach, Ramonda references finding t'challa presence after searching for a long time, meaning she found her grandson.
it still blows my mind beyond belief that chadwick boseman fought and filmed all of his movies while fighting cancer and literally nobody knew. that shit was a punch to the heart in every sense, what a true warrior
On the Marvel in the beginning half of the screen is purple, but the bottom half is dark blue. Dark Blue is the color of Colon Cancer awareness. Not sure if that was a connection and a nod to Chadwick or if I’m just reaching. This whole production was a masterpiece. I hope Chadwick is looking down on us smiling.
@DarrylsB
Жыл бұрын
thank you for mentioning the association and may we find more cures for these devastating illnesses
I love that Shuri suit has that Killmonger vibe, might be hinting their both similarities.
You missed the small detail that Attuma sends over the water grenade with his hip, during the bridge battle, just like the real world mayan ball sport (which they DO play in Talokan!). I was an amazing detail.
The amount of silence in this movie was so moving. The absence of the king. A beautiful movie… unmatched
@karolinalux2977
Жыл бұрын
That is an astute observation! And they filled those "silences" with so much- the wardrobe, the soundtrack, the breathtaking sets. It was rich and full every second!
@dominiquejones3805
Жыл бұрын
It's even better 2 rewatch at home now on Disney
Such a wholesome movie. After finishing the movie, I couldn't drive back hone immediately. I sat for a 20-30 minutes processing the whole experience. We need more these kind of movies.
@claudedottin1312
Жыл бұрын
Me and my friends were in the parking lot for 1 1/2 hours it was just so much to digest but in a good way
@arnislumpia3766
Жыл бұрын
The movie has so many layers as a Tribute to Chadwick, another exciting Marvel Movie, and an exploration of different cultures. It's such a cool movie.
The opening credits with Boseman. That was nicely done. Someone cut some onions in the theater then i swear.
Angela invokes a mature Ororo Munroe persona in this movie - beautiful, charismatic and powerful.
@NatoShinobi
Жыл бұрын
Yesssssssss ❤
Man, I cried twice during this movie. The opening scene got me good and the end... just thinking about it makes me again ugly cry... the whole movie was so moving, so beautiful. At first I couldn´t imagine it without Chadwick but It was a masterpiece. Loved every second of it. Rest in peace king. Wakanda forever!
@dominiquejones3805
Жыл бұрын
The silence was brilliant
I just came back from the cinema 40 minutes ago. By far the best cinema experience I’ve ever had I’ll definitely watch it again
@DarrylsB
Жыл бұрын
you put words to my feelings as well
The beautiful moment of seeing this film in person was during that moment of silence during the opening credits, then again at the end. The theatre was dead silent, no coughs or clearing throats just dead silence, and it was just an amazing moment to experience.
Can we just take a minute to appreciate new rockstars? They’ve consistently been the top dog in making marvel content since the beginning of phase 4. Respect.
The hand gesture that Namor and his ppl use was actually derived from ancient mesoamerican hieroglyphics.
@DarrylsB
Жыл бұрын
I didn't know that, I thought it was simulating a shark's mouth
@theninjacat7200
Жыл бұрын
wow! I was wondering about that...
@arturovidal03
Жыл бұрын
Si no me equivoco, el gesto de la mano representa el Sol.
@drahcir88richard
Жыл бұрын
I thought it symbolizes the mouth of a Serpent since Namor is also called Kukulkan which means Serpent God
@YaBoiDREX
Жыл бұрын
Looking like a Kamehameha to me lol
angela bassett did the damn thing in this movie and also had me bawling when that twist happened. also shouts out to my cousin joe robert cole who co-wrote this with ryan, joey and ryan did a great job portraying grief.
@DarrylsB
Жыл бұрын
props! loved everything about the movie
9:27 plus, a song sung for a dead elephant is used as a leitmotif in “Wakanda” and “A King’s Sunset.”
I also like the detail of the ancestral plane for shuri starting in water because the plants from the bracelet was a water version of the heart shaped herb
that marvel studios title card was such a punch to the gut. the silence of it all was so LOUD
this movie was a surprise. i’ve been used to getting disappointed by the MCU lately and i went in expecting to not like this, but was pleasantly surprised. this one took more risks, less jokes, more serious action (ex, killing romanda, shuri fully getting stabbed and almost dying). i did not expect shuri being such a force in this movie. i would say this is the second best movie to come out of phase 4 next to no way home
@mojo1320
Жыл бұрын
Hey Swoosh
@rubenlay610
Жыл бұрын
No way home is literally the worst piece of shit marvel has ever churned out.
@fahimalfaisal7781
Жыл бұрын
@@rubenlay610 only to you !
@mojo1320
Жыл бұрын
@@rubenlay610 stop lurking for attention
@rubenlay610
Жыл бұрын
@@mojo1320 I'm not. Simply stating a fact.
From story, to screenplay, from direction to acting, from character development to casting. This movie had it all. I simply loved it. Though I was worried about this movie after watching the sad joke of love n thunder but the dedication of this movie's team shows in the final product.
I also love how in contrast to some films in phase 4 it has a solid consistent tone. Comedy is nicely placed. And its overall serious. I love it
I loved how when Namor cuts through the ships they slice but never explode because the ship is indestructible
@aroncanapa5796
Жыл бұрын
This was actually one of my favorite parts of this movie, things just didn’t explode ridiculously
@redeats1939
Жыл бұрын
Right? I'm so used to planes, jets etc exploding. It was kinda weird but good attention to detail.
@AirbenderHawk
Жыл бұрын
True!
@d00ks
Жыл бұрын
How can something be indestructible but “sliced through” and damaged 🤦🏽♂️
@redeats1939
Жыл бұрын
@@d00ks Vibranium vs vibranium 🥱
I think when Namor says that last line when the surface people will come for Wakanda and turn to Talocan, he was talking about Val and US which is being controlled by Skrulls. So i think i wont be surprised if Wakanda will be part of Secret Invasion.
@danielmoorefield4891
Жыл бұрын
Probably Ground Zero.
@straub42
Жыл бұрын
Basically guaranteed
@arieszona
Жыл бұрын
Just might be because the skulls do try to invade Wakanda in the comics. Surely, they all die but they died trying to invade Wakanda. Wakanda Forever!!!!✊🏽
It amazes me how this channel has leveled up. I just watched Jessica Clemons and MT's breakdown videos and now Eric's and I just gotta say, major kudos to all of yall who've been consistently killing it and finding that groove.
Brillant cinematography, acting that looked like the cast wasn't acting at all, great villian even better storyline. Angela Bassett should earn some hardware for this!
Thank you Ryan Coogler for giving us this great piece of art. If this movie doesn't win multiple awards then no MCU movie will. You can feel that this cats put everything into this performance.
@heynope4304
Жыл бұрын
1 problem tho.. it’s filled with women and a lesbian 😢
@fakechannel5293
Жыл бұрын
@@heynope4304 wait... so did u mean that the Award always considering cast gender and sexuality irl? not for the performance of the movie and everything in the movie ?
@dmoney4lyf23
Жыл бұрын
Coogler is the best director marvel has
@amarie1852
Жыл бұрын
@@heynope4304 what’s the problem? I saw men and they held their own.
@NiteAngyl
Жыл бұрын
Cats?
You know what sticks out to me in this movie? Well, a lot does, now that I think about it, but one thing I don’t see talked about very much is just how well they did Talokan. Not only does it look absolutely breathtaking, but it’s FULLY believable that this has been here all this time and was able to go undetected. Deep ocean is something we know VERY little about, in fact even less than the stars above us. The MCU has explored so many corners of space and time, and has even delved into the multiverse, but the deepest corners of our own planet were still unexplored- until now. I’d like to believe Talokan physically IS on Earth, rather than being another plane of existence like Ta-Lo or K’un-Lun, though. One thing I do find interesting that hasn’t been touched on is how, at one point, Namor says to (I think) Namora, “We will not have to move Talokan again.” This might not be exactly what was said, but it was basically implying that Talokan has been built in at LEAST one other location during Namora’s lifetime and they had to move… which begs the question: why did it have to move? Was there an encroaching civilization that was getting too close to discovering their existence? Was there an attack or some kind of civil conflict within Talokan? Also, now that I think about it, if they were physically rebuilding Talokan in a different place, that might just confirm that Talokan is NOT in another realm like Ta-Lo or K’un-Lun. This makes sense to me especially since they built it entirely out of Vibranium, which I would imagine are not in the other realm and would be an extra step for them to rebuild if they were constantly hauling vibranium to and from the gate to the other realm.
@karolinalux2977
Жыл бұрын
Yes I think it is meant to be in this plane/dimension/Earth, etc...but that is probably some foreshadowing we might learn more about in upcoming movies...they definitely left much of that story untold which leaves so much to unfold. (Also saying this as someone who loves MCU but hasnt read the comics!- so im not most informed haha)
@zeusodinson1381
Жыл бұрын
I think it meant when they moved talokan from the surface to underwater and now they will not run or move again
@Retro_Red
Жыл бұрын
I thought K'un-Lun was on Earth, it's just the passageway to it can only be found from the outside every once in a while. It has been a bit since I've seen Iron Fist, though.
Another interesting parallel I noticed… in the first movie, T’Challa arose from dirt in the ancestral plain wearing an all white garment without a spot on him… and in this film, Shuri came out of water, yet she was completely dry.
I loved riri’s connection with the MIT admission statement from Tony. Truly ready for the Ironheart series.
Ever since The Eternals I have theorized that the Vibranium meteorite was the celestial seed that didn't mature enough to hatch, if true this movie would suggest that there were multiple failed attempts at hatching a celestial in the earth.
@legendswarble2845
Жыл бұрын
So, would that make vibranium like alien STEM cells?
@thatonechannel7045
Жыл бұрын
🤔🤔, that would be wild asf.....and I love it
@davidwilkinson2234
Жыл бұрын
@Legend's Warble could explain how Vibranium can do basically anything, just like how stem cells can be turned into any other kind of cells, vibranium can have healing properties, enable communications, grow plants with magical properties, etc...
@toddevery2128
Жыл бұрын
The Eternals was another Marvel misstep.
@fahimalfaisal7781
Жыл бұрын
@@toddevery2128 no it was not
Something about namor is so boyish and kind to me. Like giving shuri his moms bracelet is like behind niceties. His character was so developed. Maybe too developed as the movie was extremely long for me but certainly enjoyable.
@Looztherin
Жыл бұрын
I thought it was going to end with an consolidation of powers by the rulers of Wakanda and Talokan setting aside grudges and creating a tenuous alliance by dating/marriage which can still happen (I guess)
I absolutely loved them making the marvel logo full of Chadwick, they did an amazing job throughout the entire film honoring him, start to finish
Namor was thought out, very ambitious, i wonder how much about mutants he knows because he knows he is one, and he’s diabolically protective, very well executed Mr. Coogler🔥🍟
@ColdFriesReviews
Жыл бұрын
And does he know about the Eternals, Deviants, Exodus, Apocalypse, Rama-Tut…🧐
@GeeklyGoods
Жыл бұрын
Yer he was!! An absolutely worthy villain indeed, can't wiat for what's next with this character. Props to Coogler for making not one, but TWO worthy villains of the MCU!
Your breakdown really makes me appreciate the movie more. Wakanda Forever is indeed a beautiful and powerful movie and it's not just a movie for me but a memorial to Chadwick Boseman passing.
@karolinalux2977
Жыл бұрын
Truly! Done so well in all aspects!
The vibe in the theater was wild! Cheers, cries, laughter. The storyline is carried out gracefuly post Boseman's death, he would be proud
That gun Nakia used was LETHAL against Talokanils, and it would've helped a lot in other scenes. I couldn't believe it did better than Okoye's vibranium spear.
I think the area Nakia dove into to find Shuri is the same place the old Talocanian priest dove to find that vibranium infused plant. There’s just more overgrowth and it looks worn down but I’m pretty sure it’s the same place.
@kaylinstephens3169
Жыл бұрын
yes! Both look like the same cenote to me
@Lebanto
Жыл бұрын
I’ve watched it 3 times now. Yes same place
@RangerOberon
Жыл бұрын
Yes you can see the pyramid is the same too
I can't believe nobody's talking about it, but when Shuri said "vengeance has consumes us for too long, I will not let it consume me any longer", I LOST IT 😢 Am I the only one?
@robinmuse7649
Жыл бұрын
You’re not the only friend I’ve been looking for someone else! I’ve come to the right place
@ms.rae01
Жыл бұрын
That was an incredibly deep statement. I thought I was the only one who caught that. Good to know that's not the case.
@sapdude44
Жыл бұрын
I kept thinking of T'Challa's line to Zemo in Civil War. Loved it
@winningishalfthebattle154
Жыл бұрын
I think that moment went undetected because we just saw Namor who we thought was down and out stab Shuri in the stomach with that spear, so we were still on the edge of our seats expecting to see if Namor had one last trick up his sleeve.
@SamBuckyForever
Жыл бұрын
definitely not the only one! It was such an amazing callback.
Even just a recap can bring me to tears
@everythingsaok7540
Жыл бұрын
Me too!
@cr9842
Жыл бұрын
Same
Namor had an army who they were all drink super human herb and even better they cannot die by bullet and vibranium spear wound, so it would make sense if Shuri survived the spear wound at the end.
I love how they did Riri’s character. A more grounded character than Iron Man and saying what the audience would say.
Shuri's suit has the same brightness as killmonger. They are parallels
El gesto de las manos de Namor no representan la mandíbula del tiburón, es un gesto que está en las pinturas prehispánicas y si no me equivoco ese saludo hace referencia al Sol.
I cried the first five minutes. God, mere words could can describe how beautiful this was.
I loved how the world comes together to have a moment of peace for Chadwick in the opening Marvel credits. Thank you Marvel!
Yup I think Angela should get an Oscar nomination too
Just saw it for the ifrst time I truly thought this film was amazing. Full of love and loss, grief and triumph. Action and cgi were both incredible. Decent humor, but not too much for the overall tone and depth it had. I loved it a lot. Came straight here after. Thx
@reedraikes7471
Жыл бұрын
Same, thought it was amazing after just watching
Thank you so much for this video, there weren’t subtitles in the film so it was hard to catch what they said at times, but your analysis helped fill those gaps and helped me appreciate the film more
What an emotional roller-coaster ride of a movie! Just when I thought I had recovered, it hits me with a sucker punch! My tears rolled freely and I was not ashamed... Chadwick Boseman, wherever you are, thank you and may you find peace, everlasting.
It really was a great movie that had to overcome a impossible scenario
@MrSeldomseen83
Жыл бұрын
Perfectly Said 💯💪🙌
I would also like to point out that Ramonda who sacrificed herself to protect an important character (Ironheart) from Namor had the same reference in Thor the Dark World, when Frigga sacrificed herself to protect Jane from Malekith
Great run down! This is such an emotional journey for everyone involved. Glad they were able to make such a powerful tribute to Chadwick.
This has to be the best MCU film so far. Script, performances, soundtrack, costume design... Just marvellous
@DarrylsB
Жыл бұрын
totally agree with you I will watch this movie over and over
@jun813
Жыл бұрын
No its not. Good movie though
@princetonchia1285
Жыл бұрын
Best phase 4 MCU film*
@darbs1832
Жыл бұрын
Not a chance - it's the second best in P4 but that's not saying much. P4 has been garbage overall
@noname-sl7vf
Жыл бұрын
@@darbs1832 u dont have to tell the whole world u dont know what a good movie is