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@143__rd3

3 жыл бұрын

Hey man, just wanted to say keep being AWESOME dude. Seriously, you’ve been one of my favorite channels since around 10k subs? And even though you’ve blown up, you haven’t changed. Stay you, man.

@aidencross9016

3 жыл бұрын

@Lance Brantley your right, no one cares

@nunyadambidniss

2 жыл бұрын

Rapture IS Hell.

@HeyJinx

Жыл бұрын

Bioshock is anticapitalist

@Foebane72

Жыл бұрын

I stopped watching early on. Honestly, the Bioshock series is SHIT BEYOND CRAP, and I won't waste my time any more on them.

Nothing screams "freedom" louder than being in a building in a city trapped in the bottom of the ocean.

@doncoria9505

2 жыл бұрын

Ironic....

@RealBradMiller

7 ай бұрын

A little too ironic Don't ya think? It's the free Eve When you already paid It's the good plasmid That you just didn't take And would have thought Of splicers?

@acemagalor2519

2 ай бұрын

@@RealBradMilleryou’re a legend dude

@MilsznyKicius

Ай бұрын

it was originally planned to expand to the surface in time, but we all know how that turned out

@alexanderh1721

29 күн бұрын

I mean where else is Ryan supposed to build it when all land is already claimed?

I've always loved the double meaning of "No Gods, No Kings, Only Man" in relation to the citizens of Rapture. There's nobody to tell you what you can and can't do, but there's also nobody to save you when everything goes to shit.

@jamppamaattori

2 жыл бұрын

It condenses the libertarian idea very well. From how I understand it the libertarian utopia Ryan wanted would be a paradise for some but hell for others who, for multitudes of complex reasons, wouldn't be able to survive in that system on their own.

@zwhsantwnopoylos5972

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamppamaattori Not even close , bioshock is not an accurate representation of libertarianism.

@THRAKORZOD

2 жыл бұрын

@@zwhsantwnopoylos5972 Yeah it is

@zwhsantwnopoylos5972

2 жыл бұрын

@@THRAKORZOD It's not even close .

@THRAKORZOD

2 жыл бұрын

@@zwhsantwnopoylos5972 Completely unregulated capitalism with an autocratic richest guy as the leader sounds exactly like that.

I don't think a remorseful Ryan wanted to be killed by his failures. "But Atlas is out there, and he aims to destroy me, and destroy my city. To question is to surrender. I will not question." Rather, confronted by his inevitable assassin, he hands over his golf club, choosing the manner of his death, demonstrating a man always chooses.

@bilalbhuttiali1411

3 жыл бұрын

yeah, Ryan never had the humility to admit that he had faltered in his ideas. He was still proud of killing his friends who turned on him. He never understood his hypocrisy and was in to deep to ever do it. His final moment was an insult to Jack to let him know that he can choose his death but Jack is a slave.

@viriathas9910

3 жыл бұрын

Well put.

@dumb_fox

3 жыл бұрын

yeah. it's like an insult to jack - i am a man, because i chose to order you to kill me, and you're a slave because you have no option but to obey. ryan wanted to keep his pride until the very end

@LordTyph

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair, he might have also figured that there was no choice but to do it and might have wanted to set things in motion so that Atlas' own pawn would kill him. It's a victory either way for him, he just wins more if Atlas (who is actually Fontaine) gets killed after him.

@bra-balllegend3940

3 жыл бұрын

@@bilalbhuttiali1411 This. Despite his presumed abhorrence of organized religion, Ryan is a zealot to the last. Put another way, the guy's so high from sniffing his own farts, he's been hallucinating for years.

Maybe the real parasites were the friends we made along the way?

@ihateladymacbeth8170

3 жыл бұрын

The real rapture was friendship

@fatalbert2055

3 жыл бұрын

Rapture was inside us all along

@monad_tcp

3 жыл бұрын

@Samuel Black how can I abandon government, oh, I could move to another country

@carrotisalie

3 жыл бұрын

@Samuel Black like the bottom of the ocean .... Oh wait

@monad_tcp

3 жыл бұрын

@Samuel Black Mars !

Me: Ha! I killed Cohen and took a picture of him for some sweet, sweet, irony~ Leadhead: Cohen wanted you to kill him and take his picture, you did exactly what he wanted. Me:......he played me like a fiddle....

@michaelzhang7098

3 жыл бұрын

Tom McDaniel LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE!

@masterzoroark6664

3 жыл бұрын

Well, unless you are into Cohen's meaning of art

@MrSp0iler

3 жыл бұрын

Ah, Bioshock. STALKER shadow of Chernobyl of the western world.

@clmBerserker

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrSp0iler not really try again, except being shooters they have nothing in common, stalker was unknown, ugly and a buggy mess that dident run well on good rigs it. Its more like a elder scrolls game.

@MrSp0iler

3 жыл бұрын

@@clmBerserker Polished to the point of sterile.

Another thing about Ryan’s death is that Jack is his son. Ryan accidentally impregnated his mother. Jack’s mother then sold Jack’s embryo to Fontaine. So Ryan is being killed not only a slave but his own son. Ryan greatly valued freedom and the closest person to Ryan is the exact opposite a slave.

@goodtips8973

3 жыл бұрын

not his mother (incest?) but his assistant

@harrison131

3 жыл бұрын

@@goodtips8973 sorry just some bad wording

@Cardandcointricks

3 жыл бұрын

Was it an accident? I thought Tenenbaum and Fontaine actually placed Joelene in there to make Ryan fall for her and get her pregnant eventually?

@ultrabigfella

2 жыл бұрын

@@goodtips8973 JACK's mother.

@goodtips8973

2 жыл бұрын

@@ultrabigfella nah. u dont get it.

5:30 Diana was not seeking reconstructive surgery to be a new person, if you listen to the audio logs, she was greatly injured in the attacks by Atlas' crew and this is the reason she got surgery.

@SlurmiWurm

3 жыл бұрын

ok

@imonke5303

3 жыл бұрын

@@SlurmiWurm ok

@janusporcincula9733

3 жыл бұрын

Ok

@drakenforge4276

2 жыл бұрын

That is correct! First audio log in the game!

35 minute in depth analysis of a modern classic? Leadhead you spoil us

@Leadhead

5 жыл бұрын

Bioshock Infinite probably won't be too far behind!

@thepraetorian2368

3 жыл бұрын

More like spoil us of other games, I only watched because I thought it was going to be only Bioshock

@joystickwarrior7769

3 жыл бұрын

@@thepraetorian2368 do you know how old those games he mentioned are?? If you don't know how they end by now you probably don't care much. So why complain?

@thepraetorian2368

3 жыл бұрын

@@joystickwarrior7769 Because I still plan on playing them, there are 1000 games I still have to play, I just don't have the time to play them all

@joystickwarrior7769

3 жыл бұрын

@@thepraetorian2368 Chances are you'll forget all that stuff mentioned by the time you play it, i already dont remember most of the games mentioned lol. I was more focused on the bioshock content.

I think this is a critical misread of Ryan's death at least. His final speech expresses no remorese and if anything sounds triumphant. As far as he is concerned, he has destroyed rapture and proven that he is a man by selecting his own way of dying. These aren't the actions of a man who regrets enslaving a population

@PR0MAN01

2 жыл бұрын

There is literally nothing redeemable about Ryan the entire game, I don't get how he read him as remorseful. Every word he says is either a contradiction or just a morally bankrupt statement that's nothing less than evil. Fontane ain't much better but they're 2 sides of the game coin.

@ollytherevenant1653

Жыл бұрын

I don’t agree with his assertion of Ryan but it was an interesting viewpoint nonetheless. I just don’t see any signs of Ryan being remorseful. His death was a stubborn display of his philosophy through the inevitably of his fate and Jack’s lack of free will.

@uli11

Жыл бұрын

I get a sense that Leadhead *agrees* with Ryan’s philosophy, and is therefore trying to create some sympathetic ties where none exist. Just another boring libertarian… moving on.

One thing I'm surprised didn't get mentioned: that line Ryan has about a time to live, a time to die. Yeah, it's from the song "Turn, turn, turn" (which came out years after Bioshock takes place), but the line is originally from the bible (specifically, Ecclesiastes 3:1-8). Ryan has strayed so far from objectivism that he's quoting the bible.

@skylex157

3 жыл бұрын

He is not neccessarely objectivist, he in individualist, but he is not against religion really, he banned it in rapture for the same reason he banned outside trading even if it makes it an hypocrate, he is trying to protect rapture until its developed and because countries would attack rapture and it would lose its secret side if they start trading

@skylex157

3 жыл бұрын

@Skitalets nope, he decided it with all mayor business(wo)man of rapture, most of them told him to outright kill fontaine and problem would be solved, but andrew didn't want that so he instead exiled him, which ended up worse, as fontaine faked his death in the exile and atlas was born

@skylex157

3 жыл бұрын

@Skitalets i mean, he ended up being a hypocrate, i´m not defending that side of him, i´m just telling you that he had his motives to did what he did

@InitialPC

2 жыл бұрын

@@skylex157 He is literally based on Ayn Rand, his name is even an anagram of hers. Ayn Rand is the founder of Objectivism. Andrew Ryan is an Objectivist.

@starwarsnerd100

2 жыл бұрын

Ryan knows he’s quoting the Bible, right before he says that line he says “even in the book of lies there’s some truth”.

Another point regarding "The Great Chain": Ryan describes it as becoming more rigid and strong with everyone pulling it towards themselves in whatever direction they choose. But if you have a bunch of people pulling an actual chain every which-where, neither the chain nor any of the people pulling it go anywhere, they're just stuck in place until someone gives or something breaks, and then it all comes crashing down.

You missed the opportunity for a "HypocriSea" joke

@Ezekiel_Allium

3 жыл бұрын

@Skitalets or you could have taste and realize forced puns are the pinnacle of comedy

@ellis3320

3 жыл бұрын

@Weapons Of Mass Distraction Bruh 😂

@TeryJones

3 жыл бұрын

Free tomatoes here! Get your free tomatoes! Comes with complimentary throwing lessons if you need them!

@bybass9666

3 жыл бұрын

@@TeryJones thank you good sir.

@steelbear2063

3 жыл бұрын

@Weapons Of Mass Distraction "If you're into dad humor, I guess." YOUR NAME IS LITERALLY A DAD JOKE

I don't really agree with the analysis of Ryan as penitent. Here are my reasons: 1. I think the only reason Ryan does not kill you once you get right up to him (which I have no doubt he could do - he's entirely in control of Rapture's security) is because he knows Jack is his son, and therefore has access to his personal Vita-Chambers - so killing him is useless. More, too, he likely feels disdain towards killing someone who has blood-ties to him, even if he probably feels more disdain for your being controlled by Fontaine. 2. Saying that Ryan wanted to die to atone for forcing the citizens of Rapture into servitude doesn't really add up. A similar situation is presented in one of the audio logs, where he has the beginnings of a qualm about the use of the Little Sisters - but he soon soothes his own fears by saying something akin to 'but we all pulled on the Great Chain, and her little hand was right next to mine'. If he's able to talk himself out of that moral qualm, it seems unlikely that he'd be self-aware enough to wish to atone for the brainwashing of the citizens of Rapture. I personally believe that the only reason he faces Jack as he does is because even if he is a hypocrite, he is still a brave man, and if there is truly no escape, he will face death coolly.

@simonblackwell3576

3 жыл бұрын

Cool perspective, I saw him as less as a brave man and more of a prideful fool who wanted to delude himself into thinking his death was his choice in a sort of “you can’t fire me, I quit” kinda way

@ElionMars

3 жыл бұрын

@@simonblackwell3576 I just kinda saw it as him being over dramatic (hi, Cohen) and continuing to have all the nuance of a marching band made entirely of tubas. "There are no gods. Now watch as I go hide in my bunker named after the god of creation." "You smuggled Bibles? I'm going to make you a literal martyr and use obvious symbolism that makes me the bad guy." I don't honestly think Ryan has enough self-understanding to realize how other people perceive him, which is pretty in line for him being a 2000's version of Rand's Howard Roark. He knew he didn't have anywhere else to run, so he decides he's going to put on his nice shoes before jumping off a skyscraper.

@saekisadako2118

3 жыл бұрын

ryan wasn't hypocrite compared to fontaine and dr lamb

@SuperShyerGuy

3 жыл бұрын

@@saekisadako2118 In my view, Ryan is just as much a hypocrite as either of them.

@saekisadako2118

3 жыл бұрын

@@SuperShyerGuy no he wasn't he built his city and golden ages of it just show that his system works but then fontain comes in rapture and starts to destroy it.

ryan- makes city free of government. ryan- also becomes government.

@Gamer-ry6xy

Жыл бұрын

Andrew ryan sure is a smart one, am i right.

Good video! However I noticed one detail that was wrong. Diane McClintock went to Steinman because Diane was injured in the Kashmir Restuarant bombing not just because Ryan blew her off and didn't attend the ball. This is because her story is, she was injured in the bombing committed by Atlas and after she began seeing Ryan's flaws, Diane ironically joined Atlas' cause but then is ironically killed because she walked in on him talking in his regular Frank Fontaine accent.

@Radkins1990

3 жыл бұрын

Oh thank god I found this. I really didnt want to post a correction this late in the game. XD your doing the lords work!

@plugshirt1684

3 жыл бұрын

Bioshock has a great story and world building but it is really hard to follow it completely and understand it all without mistake

@sierrasouthwell9237

3 жыл бұрын

I thought she was killed because Ryan found out that she sold her embryo?

@orton3541

3 жыл бұрын

@@sierrasouthwell9237 No that wasn't Diane that was the one dancer from the Garden of Eden in Fort Frolic.

@SamuelBlack84

3 жыл бұрын

@@orton3541 If the residents of Rapture are there to reap the rewards of their hard work then what reward does a stripper get besides tips?

I would say that Sander Cohen's craziness as an artist isn't due to lack of having an audience, but more to do with having the lack of duty to an audience. His madness, I think, will have begun long before the fall of Rapture, with his art getting more and more abstract, and less and less meaningful. Art is how a culture knows itself, and the artist that is an individualist (which Raptures is full of), and feels he has no responsibility towards his audience, will no longer be making art that someone can appreciate to know about the people of whom he is a part, something grounded in reality, and instead only makes art that comes from, and is about, himself. Cohen's art is a twisted expression only of himself.

@cryojudgement2376

3 жыл бұрын

People hate his art and he says they dont understand it cause he makes it for himself

@noble20xx56

3 жыл бұрын

@@cryojudgement2376 Exactly. The "doubters" as he calls them.

@olivermorin3303

3 жыл бұрын

​@Mister MAGAnificentNobody said shit about postmodernism, and I doubt you could actually explain what it is or how this conversation relates to it. That being said, Sander Cohen's art is very much *not* postmodern. It doesn't seek to attack any of the establishment's fundamental principles or narratives; many of his pieces do the opposite, in fact, by stroking Ryan's ego.

@swapode

3 жыл бұрын

@Person X So, you don't like Bioshock then?

@olivermorin3303

3 жыл бұрын

​@Person X 4/10 critique; I asked for a definition, not a half-baked series of "examples" meant to smear art that you don't like.

I feel like this video can be summed up with one sentence, for both Andrew Ryan and just normal people in general when it comes to ideologies: "When a person cares more for an idea, than the actual living breathing people that make up said idea-the game"

@SamuelBlack84

3 жыл бұрын

Without people behind an idea to create it it can't exist

Yeah I always found it funny how Ryan's plan fundamentally doesn't make sense. His city was made to have no rulers, but a big part of his beliefs is that you own what's yours and by every definition Rapture.. the whole city IS HIS. It was his idea, his money and company funding it, and his will as he always states. I can see what he was trying to do. Created a top council to oversee the very basics of operating the city.. intentionally created to stay out of people's business as much as possible and it even seemed like Ryan was trying to keep himself out of the council and put himself down with everyone else.. starting out "buying fish futures" and the like.. creating his own businesses. It was only after he saw someone, Fontaine, becoming more successful then him that he started to turn on his own beliefs. He started taking the city being his to heart and eventually started to see the city and everyone IN it as his. Ryan: "At last I am alone, Fontaine is gone, Lamb is gone.. or close enough. At last I am alone, alone.. with MY city."

@yungcommi

3 жыл бұрын

That's what you get with absolute private property rights. It's the same reason people starve of hunger or don't have access to clean water even though there's more than enough food and we could easily find access to water.

@kyle857

3 жыл бұрын

The biggest flaw, explored more in the books. Is that they keep letting more and more people in, but no one can ever leave. Creating massive unemployment.

@ladygrey4113

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I think it failed the same reason Ayn Rand’s philosophy fails. Objectivism is in my opinion the truly most ridiculous philosophy and method of governing (or rather lack thereof). The woman herself in childhood was uncaring of her family’s lack of wealth and allegedly would spend money they didn’t have on frivolous things like movie tickets. In her older years despite haranguing on social security and other safety nets for the majority of her adult life she would take full advantage of them.

@bunnystrasse

3 жыл бұрын

Senne D. Wait, how does this align with Ryan’s beliefs? Ryan turned on his own beliefs so that was how Rapture started to fail. What humans should do is NOT to violate absolute property rights like Ryan did. Also, what you have described is tragedy of the commons. Yes, the world has enough water, but not enough CLEAN water because that requires money to filter. Also, food is enough for everyone but you need people to produce it. You need to pay these folks.what is required on the other hand is productivity by the people of a nation’s economy so they can produce more goods to sell for money so they can produce more food for themselves.

@bunnystrasse

3 жыл бұрын

Lady Grey how is her actions related to the ridiculousness of Objectivism?

The reveal that your a sleeper agent is one of the best memories I have gaming.

Hearing that puppy die like that still freezes my heart. I know no actual puppies died, but even the implication shakes me to my core and fills me with a teeth gritting rage. Fantastic video. Thought provoking and engagingly informative

@jacobrobinson787

3 жыл бұрын

I recommend you never watch Elfen Lied then. You will see red.

It truly feels weird to watch such quality content with such little subscribers. Really interesting video and you kept me interested through the whole 33 minutes. great job! keep it up!

@Leadhead

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! My whole goal with these longer videos is to keep people's attention and not ramble on, so that's great to hear!

@Isaacfess

3 жыл бұрын

Whelp, He got the subs now lol.

@mr.positivity9972

3 жыл бұрын

Isaacfess yeah the mans blew up

@Isaacfess

3 жыл бұрын

The subscribers speak for themselves.

@lockskelington314

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

Every time Suchong says 'very good' after the puppy dies, I feel genuine hatred, great voice acting.

@bitbot9834

3 жыл бұрын

When you genuinely hate hearing a villains voice that's how you know they did an amazing job

@sandran17

3 жыл бұрын

He was a Japanese collaborator. That's a special type of bastard.

@SamuelBlack84

3 жыл бұрын

It's so satisfying to hear him being slaughtered by the big daddy after he slaps the little sister and she cries

@jacobrobinson787

3 жыл бұрын

@@sandran17 Considering what the Japanese did to the Chinese, you would be correct.

@sandran17

3 жыл бұрын

Such regimes give men with far too much curiosity and nowhere near enough desire to help people too much test subjects to torture.

I love all these takes on the game coming out a decade later. I was so young when I beat this game in 2007-08, I was about 11-12 years old so I was incapable of wrapping my head around the philosophical implications. It was just a scary undersea survival horror game to me back then. Really eye opening how much of a masterpiece this game is now that as an adult I have more of an understanding of religion, society, art, and the fundamental concepts of americana that inspired the storytelling. The first Bioshock is a true example of the video game experience, presenting itself as almost film in its ability to peel back layers of depth depending on level of understanding or age. A game that could be played by anyone once but analyzed a hundred times over for generations to come.

@HallowedKhaos91

3 жыл бұрын

It's actually pretty incredible how good this game really is. That's why I think the sequels didn't do as well as far as fan reception. It's almost impossible to make the sequels as good when the original was already a masterpiece.

@CombineWatermelon

3 жыл бұрын

It was like that for me too Was just a little kid, and it was a fun game where I slowly became more and more of a god

@tiacool7978

3 жыл бұрын

@@HallowedKhaos91 Infinite had the best chance of doing so, but it dropped the ball in so many places. Felt so limited, and didn't feel quite as cohesive as the original. And while I wanted to revisit Rapture again, Bioshock 2 was more of the same without much else added. The big sisters were a nice addition though.

This one!... TOO SYMMETRICAL

@theotherbeatle707

3 жыл бұрын

Ugly...UGLY!!!

“There’s something admirable about that.” Only if you squint really, really hard. Ryan’s entire idea, that man only deserves what he fights for and builds with his own two hands, ignores the simple truth that we are social organisms, living in constant interconnection with others, and that most if not all inventions and conquests are, surprise surprise, *social* phenomena. The idea of the rugged industrialist alone inventing the lightbulb is a myth, as fictional as this very game. Ryan’s principles, being based on faulty premises, end up in hypocrisy and delusion. He burns down a forest he bought so the “parasites” couldn’t get it, but did he make the forest? Did he plant every tree, place every rock, dig every stream? No. He merely bought it. Or, that is to say, he stole a priceless resource from those who lived around it with the power of green paper. The parasite here was always Ryan. Remember that.

Honestly, I saw Ryan's death as a desperate attempt to save his son. He's not just ordering Jack to kill him, he's testing if Jack can break his programming. If his son has the choice. If he is a MAN, in Ryan's terms

@AusSP

3 жыл бұрын

I think that's not far off. If I recall correctly, he claims he won't kill Jack because Jack is his son. He can't ignore that tie. All he can do is live up to his own virtues. Having the hope his own son can live up to those virtues is very idealistic of him.

@Bilboswaggins2077

3 жыл бұрын

I always thought this as well. Ryan knew jack would kill him because jack is after all just a slave. His death helped jack realize his true purpose, which to me seems like the only “altruistic” thing Ryan ever did even if it was to preserve his dream

@sakurasleaf9780

3 жыл бұрын

@@AusSP I'd say it's not just idealistic, it's surprisingly humane of him. Can't pinpoint, where, but I remember Ryan saying "Now that I've had a good look at you, I can't kill you. Come into my office". His tone was still commanding - but way softer. One could, of course, attribute it to him being tired ot giving up, but it sounded somewhat fatherly to me. Having Fontaine use his own son, stolen from his mother's womb is an ultimate slap to Ryan's face: not only it is his flesh and blood (who, by sharing his DNA, can use the encrypted bathyspheres and Vita Chambers), his son, his physical mark on the world (besides Rapture) is a "slave" who obeys. Does Ryan hope that Jack lives up to his values? I think no, in my opinion, it has more to do with how unbearable the idea of having produced a slave into the world is for him. He even disables the vita-chamber in his office, to allow a proper stand-off (which, actually, is a crutch in lore cuz wouldn't he just respawn in another working one? The last one he passed before shutting himself in the office? Unless he has specifically recoded them into only recognising Jack's DNA and not himself, before shutting it down... oooops)

@sakurasleaf9780

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bilboswaggins2077 yeah, the fun part? Ryan's sacrifice ultimately works, we kill Fontaine because he tried to control us. So, even in his death, Ryan manages to flip a bird on Fontaine, both using Fontaine's weapon against himself, and liberating his son, showing that you can't shut down free will after all. Some argue that Jack isn't really free before Tenenbaum fixes him, and is still following her orders - but does she really order him around? She offers him a choice, and a choice that he still was able to make even under the effects of mental conditioning. He can choose between harvesting and saving Little Sisters, and he does chose to do one or another.

@DarkAngelEU

3 жыл бұрын

@@sakurasleaf9780 Harvesting or saving the Sisters isn't that much of a choice, it's part of survival through the game. I only chose to not sacrifice them when I figured out there were different endings to the game. It's a weak mechanic to display any kind of moral choice available to the player in a game where you are just a slave to expose plot. One could argue the entire game is some kind of predestinated ordeal of how one who tries to dig a grave for someone ends up digging one for themselves.

So, a channel that does analysis of games for an extended period of time, with a calming voice, and being perfect for background audio while still being engaging? Welcome to my, "Good Videos" playlist! Also, enjoy a new subscriber.

@jeggsonvohees2201

3 жыл бұрын

If that gets you wet you should check out MauLer's channel.

Ah Bioshock, I saw my friend playing it when I was 17. And now all got old, and watching this at early 30s. Even after almost 15 years, it is still a recommandable game for gamers. Its graphics aged well enough for newcomers to pick up and play.

Damn, that opening scene where you first see Rapture accompanied by that epic music... gives me chills every single time. One of the best games ever made!

this video was the first time i ever saw what it looked like to harvest a little sister

@SamuelBlack84

3 жыл бұрын

I could never harvest them

@DcCock

2 жыл бұрын

I never harvested them because they give you a lot of goodies if you don't.

@averagebusinessmen2

2 жыл бұрын

@Clu Rosencrans a central character in the narrative is a scientist named Tenenbaum who helped create the Little Sisters and regrets it. If you rescue them, she says she'll "make it worth your while" and rewards you with extra resources if you do so. it also affects the way the game ends

@menopillion9853

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, same here. I know it's all just electrons moving down a wire, but I just couldn't do it.

I always thought Ryan handing you the golf club and telling you a man chooses was him trying to break through the brainwashing command by trying to confront you with it. It just didn’t work and he was killed for it.

Wow dude; no analysis has made me realize the relevance and genius of Bioshock more than someone simply explaining it as well as you did. I think I want to share it with my father now. We’ve been distant as of late but we bond over storytelling. I think having him try Bioshock might bring us closer together despite our religious differences. Thank you for helping me realize this.

@Leadhead

4 жыл бұрын

That warms my heart :) I hope the best for you two

@NotYurAverageJoe

4 жыл бұрын

Leadhead yeah keep doing what you’re doing “big daddy” (kill me). “You just earned yourself a subscriber” as the kids say 😂. Seriously thank you though- this has also helped cement for me how potent video essays can be. I’ve been helping my friend with his channel and have been hesitant to start my own... but I’m certain now that’s what I want to do.

@Leadhead

4 жыл бұрын

Go for it man. I had 0 experience writing, editing, or voice recording before I started the channel. Everybody has something to say.

@NotYurAverageJoe

4 жыл бұрын

Leadhead thanks, that’s really encouraging to hear. If I have anything to say it’s this: It does discourage me how often substantive grassroots voices are often drowned out (no pun intended) by high-budget, artificially promoted clickbait made through celebrity and corporate partnership; rather than who the most insightful individual voices are. In the end, I hope the more earnest “Ryans” (in this narrow analogy) win out rather than the “Fontaine” channels who dominate the algorithm by exploiting social trends. Obviously, I hope no one ever actually becomes like either character; but however big you become- I’ll be rooting for you 👍. My friend’s channel is Critical Rants btw if you’d kindly check it out 😉

@Leadhead

4 жыл бұрын

You know, this is a super niche channel. Given how small my home town is, I haven't met anyone in real life whose views align with mine when it comes to gaming, but thanks to this channel I have a live counter of people whose views are similar to mine. Every voice has a potential audience. But yeah I'll check that out

*17:10* The biggest proof that Sander Cohen was a man of art, was the number of coins he put in his music box.

@thegoodmudkip3652

3 жыл бұрын

Nice

@lulialmir

3 жыл бұрын

Nice

@20motu08

3 жыл бұрын

Why 493?

@pippop5828

3 жыл бұрын

@@20motu08 its 69$

@__________________________Fred

3 жыл бұрын

And your comment got 69 likes what the hell is going on?

the greatest nuance of bioshock is that while rapture is definitely a dystopia, it is a BEAUTIFUL one

@I_Don_t_want_a_handle

3 жыл бұрын

Every dystopia is a utopia to someone. That's the problem with utopias, not everybody agrees on what should be in them. As the old saying goes 'beware of men with Dreams.'

@mugwump9131

3 жыл бұрын

That’s not nuance or unique to bioshock. A lot of dystopian fantasies play off this, most of them.

@ia2625

3 жыл бұрын

@@mugwump9131 name 3

@mugwump9131

3 жыл бұрын

IA literally any cyberpunk dystopia.

@wappytappy

3 жыл бұрын

@@ia2625 the bioshock triology

It seems odd with the chapters about the faults of mixing Art with Science, and Industry with Science there isn’t one about mixing art with industry. They really could have furthered their meta commentary on games as a result.

@Mikewee777

3 жыл бұрын

@Sans Handlebars ADs are a insult to artistic intent . Holograms are used as puppets to push products that the dead celebrities would never support if they were still alive.

@hamishbarrett7695

3 жыл бұрын

Sander Cohen chapter.....?

Even though Jack had been bio-engineered by Suchong...how could they guarantee that he would be the only survivor of a plane crashing into the ocean? Granted he has an above normal physicality...that is still a huge risk to take by Fontaine, and something that has nagged at me since wayback.

@MatiasQuintanaV

11 ай бұрын

I thought that he was made to cause the plane crash with a command

@ComaDave

11 ай бұрын

@@MatiasQuintanaV Yes, that's what happened. It still didn't mean that Jack would automatically survive the crash, though.

Atlas: “Take the L Ryan!” Andrew Ryan: “I choose the Win.”

The whole Bioshock franchise is my most favorite video game of all time.

You are far, far more optimistic about Ryan than I am. Ryan is no better than Atlas, and their philosphies of freedom are gilded words covering up rotted souls.

@hectichero321

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I was kinda baffled when he mentioned sympathizing with Ryan.

@MatthewCampbell765

3 жыл бұрын

According to Levine, the key difference between Ryan and Fontaine/Atlas is that Ryan is an actual true believer of an ideology and trying to do what he considers is right, whereas Fontaine is a nihilist with no desire to do anything right. This doesn't necessarily make him worse, but there is an argument to it.

@lamb_link

3 жыл бұрын

I kinda get it. Ryan wanted to create a place that humanity could grow to its fullest potential, unconstrained by law, regulation or judgement. He does turn very hypocritical and tyrannical in an attempt to achieve this, and in no way am I excusing his actions, but his end goal is noble. Unlike atlas, who does noble acts in the name of selfish goals, Ryan does evil acts in the name of noble goals. Arguably having noble goals and being willing to do anything to achieve them can cause greater horrors then just letting sleeping dogs lie, as can be seen in history by certain regimes, both fallen and still standing.

@helenwhs

3 жыл бұрын

Lamb Cronyism. The death of all great systems. Capitalism is wonderful until those successful people actively try to suppress the ambitions of others to be rid of competition.

@ivanfloresvazquez7490

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, and I don't agree that Atlas is a perversion of Ryan's philosophy, I think Atlas is what eventually happens when a system entirely stops anyone from hoarding wealth, power and influence, and a "natural dictator" such as Atlas arises.

i absolutely love this entire concept. the time setting, to the gene-altering, to the unique designs of everything, that fact that such a unique environment has gone downhill, everything is just so damn good.

Rapture was utopia and like every utopia it was destined to fail. Ryan saw necessary safety nets as parasitism and when his own "philosophy" came to bite his own arse he couldn't handle it. He also did not see that organized cooperation is necessary for "the great chain" to pull things forward. Frank Fontaine decided to pull that chain to his direction and even that proved Ryan's ideology flawed. Frank Fontaine was obsessed about becoming head honcho of Rapture and he failed to see that unleashing all those pent-up forces he would become head honcho of smoldering heap which has no value at all left. In the end he could have just taken a recliner (a comfy chair) and declared himself a King of Rapture wearing a crown made of lampshade. I went to rescue Little Sisters and as Fontaine so much threatens to kill them just to spite Jack. It is just so right that those who actually have reason to fear Fontaine get to show that they are better than he or Ryan were. Only Little Sisters are innocents in Rapture and they do not have a choice in that matter either.

@BienestarMutuo

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, all utopias designed to please a single point of view are doomed to failure. But a utopia designed for the unity of people, that is, that accepts that each of us is different but that we have the same value, will succeed. Failure is the confusion of uniformity with unity, it is not the same. htpps://e-nation.org/

@nathanielgarza9198

3 жыл бұрын

Pragmatism does not equal success, also unity of people could mean anything to any point of view

@105rogue

3 жыл бұрын

It wasn't Rands philosophy that was flawed. The problem was Ryan's inability to adhere to it.

@qdllc

3 жыл бұрын

This is how I saw it as well. Safety nets in society are necessary evils that will go wrong if not kept in line, but without them society is cruel. People went to Rapture to share in Ryan’s vision but didn’t realize they weren’t exceptional enough to exist in a higher station of society than they were used to. Their disaffection gave Fontaine a resource to use against Ryan, and when Adam was discovered, Ryan foolishly dismissed its potential while Fontaine embraced it...giving him superior clout to Ryan...who in the end wanted to be king (or god) over rapture but no longer was top dog.

@church1391

3 жыл бұрын

105rogue it’s impossible to adhere to objectivism because it is totally nonsensical. Fontaine wanted to control rapture. If Ryan wanted to maintain control he had to betray his principles, and if he didn’t, then Fontaine would have taken over. There is no way that rapture could have survived because it’s entirely founding philosophy is flawed.

Damn. watching this reminded me that I never actually completed this game, despite loving it, mainly at the time for its visuals and setting. but since I started reading philosophy, I realised theres a lot in this game too.

0451. Possibly the single most important lineage in story driven video games. I actually met some of the crew that worked on Bioshock infinite, the lead UI programmer is a family friend, very interesting conversations were had. Irrational Games was basically just down the street from where Looking Glass was as well, and I have been past the former Looking Glass offices many times.

What about Bioshock 2? I love that game, I don't understand why people hate it, it was awesome. It also has the most fun and best gameplay out of all three

@jansamuel4666

3 жыл бұрын

As for me second and third game just wasn't as good as the first and second give this strong feeling of trying to replicate first one, it lacked innovation.

@peacekeepings1371

3 жыл бұрын

make crack legal collectivism*, not communism and individualism*, not hyper-capitalism, but your point still stands. extremists will try using anything to prove their point, and if something even remotely criticizes it, they get really angry. an opposite situation happened with bioshock infinite where people on the far-right were angry because how the game criticizes nationalism and theocracy

@lastgamecube9688

3 жыл бұрын

@make crack legal Using politics as a crutch is a pretty big Cope. The sequels weren't as good as 1. Writing and the fact that Infinite had so much cut out of it should clue you in on why those games aren't liked.

@GD30.06

3 жыл бұрын

@make crack legal lol im not surprised that happened. Too many liberals these days. Its exactly whats happening to out society

@Forestgravy90

3 жыл бұрын

make crack legal i still think it's arguable whether the first game specifically targeted objectivism or whether it was also as much about the scourge of collectivism via the Fontaine character.

"While we don't know at this point in the game-" Tip for essay writing: Don't tease something for half the essay, either tackle it there or avoid mentioning it again until you're actually ready to talk about it. Through sheer repetition I remember your promise to later explain your points more than your actual points.

@DatcleanMochaJo

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting point. I hope Lead sees this. Though I wouldn't know.

You know how you can tell a video game is a classic? People are still talking about it over a decade after release.

@WickedKnightAlbel

3 жыл бұрын

That sounds like a nice idea on paper, but people still talk about bad games too. At length

@frank144p4

3 жыл бұрын

This one had a lot of thought put into it.

@JohnnyBurnes

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed. Superman 64. 👍

@returnedtomonkey8886

3 жыл бұрын

@@WickedKnightAlbel *cough cough* Sonic 06

I was really confused seeing "Leadhead" in game and then I remembered that was also the name of the channel I was watching.

I'm astonished you made it through a half hour video on the philosophy of Bioshock and didn't once mention Ayn Rand's 'Atlas Shrugged' lol

@Dark_Peace

3 жыл бұрын

Me too !

@HorkSupreme

3 жыл бұрын

The game is a bastardization of the book and the philosophy therein.

@worsethanbuzzfeed6353

2 жыл бұрын

@@HorkSupreme nah, more like bioshock is a more accurate representation of the philosophy ayn rand glorifies

@jaypee9575

2 жыл бұрын

@@worsethanbuzzfeed6353 Not at all. Ryan is someone who used the philosophy as a base and ran amok with it, akin to a religious movement taking the symbolism of a belief and turning it into a structured religion.

One thing that I love about Bioshock is that the levels have names of Greek/Roman Gods in them: Apollo, Neptune, Hephestus, Prometheus, Olympia etc. Many of these Gods tie in with the levels too, like Prometheus sacrificed himself to give humans freedom, Hephestus is the god of fire and industrialism.

Unrestricted artistry always devolves into unrestricted perversion and depravity.

@jacobrobinson787

3 жыл бұрын

Truth.

@Kuhmuhnistische_Partei

3 жыл бұрын

How you define what 'perversion' or 'depravity' means in this context? I mean, most fascists are really into the idea to keep art 'pure' and realistic and stuff like that and they hate abstract art, because they say it's 'degenerate art'. And no, I don't mean you're a fascist because you write about perversion and depravity in art, I just want to point out where that way of thinking can lead to.

@megacide84

3 жыл бұрын

@@Kuhmuhnistische_Partei It's not necessarily the individual work of art itself. Rather... It's the seedy underbelly of the industry. I'm sure you yourself have heard the horrific tales of what goes on behind the scenes in the art and entertainment professions. Such as the casting couch. The rampant abuse of minors-both sexually and financially. The questionable business practices. Skyrocketing drug (prescription and illegal) abuse. Basically, everything that led to the MeToo movement. It's become an "Anything Goes" mentality where nearly nothing is restrained. No matter how horrific.

The perfect KZread video doesn't exi-

@FatheredPuma81

3 жыл бұрын

Video wasn't uploaded in 16k 240 FPS and the guy isn't using a studio setup to record his voice. That sure was easy.

@noahmueller709

3 жыл бұрын

Also he misquoted the game at 2:20. But it is a great video

@ellis3320

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah you’re right, it doesn’t

Odd not to have seen much discussion on this game as a deconstruction of Ayn Rand and the morality of Objectivism / Libertarianism (Andrew Ryan ~=~ Ayn Rand). That's what the explicit sub-text of the game is about, and while I didn't listen to everything; Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged or The Fountainhead wasn't mentioned once as far as I could tell.

@horizonzeromom

3 жыл бұрын

I was coming here to ask "Who is John Galt?" so I'm glad someone pointed out what 2K so clearly laid out as a tribute to Ayn Rand's philosophies. I also believe the average person, including the average gamer, might find Rand's books daunting, not only in size, but also in content as they can be a very slow and tedious read, but they are worth it in every way.

@Red-pv3tw

3 жыл бұрын

i’m glad it isn’t mentioned, because andrew ryan is such an awful strawman of objectivism that every single decision he’s ever made runs counter to the philosophy he’s supposed to represent

@frocco7125

3 жыл бұрын

The virgin right libertarianism vs. THE CHAD LEFT LIBERTARIANISM

@icancounto9994

3 жыл бұрын

@@frocco7125 untill you come across daddy ancap

@The_Jovian

3 жыл бұрын

@@icancounto9994 more like a sugar daddy that doesn't actually have any money

This video seems to have overlooked one thing that permeated the story of Bioshock: Fontaine is the ENTIRE reason Rapture went to a watery Hell in a soggy handbasket. Every problem mentioned in the video that Rapture had, Fontaine had direct or indirect involvement with it. Andrew Ryan's downfall was trusting that Fontaine held the same ideals he did. At the very first sign Fontaine didn't, Ryan should have had Fontaine either exiled from Rapture or executed as the parasite that he was. Instead, he took it on the chin and let Fontaine do as he pleased. I really think Andrew should have vetted his business partner much more closely and gone with someone else. Also, my interpretation of the giant head of Andrew Ryan when you first enter Rapture isn't him thinking himself as a god, but as a representation of what man when thinking for himself could become. Which, if you think he imagined men as gods, could mean every man is his own god and nothing is beneath him. As a man, he chose. As a slave, you and Fontaine obeyed. You obeyed by playing through the game and Fontaine obeyed by becoming the very parasitic being he always was but deluded himself into thinking he wasn't. I know I'm just a trollfacing Wario, and this is just a theory (perhaps even a GAME theory), but it makes sense considering what was shown in this video.

@rafaelscatena7997

3 жыл бұрын

Ryan was the parasite

@DanieleCapellini

3 жыл бұрын

Fontaine was a simple product of the society Andrew Ryan has created, not its opposite.

@attackmaster519

3 жыл бұрын

@@DanieleCapellini Incorrect since Fontaine was doing these things long before Andrew Ryan even had the idea of creating Rapture. Fontaine is the product of the society he was raised in, as all men are, but he was not raised in Ryan's society.

@rafaelscatena7997

3 жыл бұрын

No Ryan was the parasite

@skylex157

3 жыл бұрын

@@DanieleCapellini "fontaine" is not the real fontaine, he was murdered by atlas (i can't remember his real name) and took fontaine's place in rapture, therefore, he is an illegal faking identity with socialist ideals

I just love the look and feel of BioShock. It’s just perfect for setting up an uneasy dystopian too perfect to be real feeling.

great and very interesting video, i finished bioshock like 20 times but this video still contained some details i never noticed

How do you do a 30 minute long video on Bioshock and it's philosophy, without mentioning Ayn Rand once? Huge oversight...

@Dark_Peace

3 жыл бұрын

As much as I love Leadhead, I agree

@HorkSupreme

3 жыл бұрын

The game is a bastardization of the book and the philosophy therein.

@Kuhmuhnistische_Partei

3 жыл бұрын

@@HorkSupreme Well, her philosophy was really bad and only rich guys liked her, because she validated their actions, she gave them an ideology that worked for them. And she had basically a cult around her where everyone was under constant fear to say something wrong so that she would 'excommunicate' them. She tolerated no other opinions in her cult. Murray Rothbard, the inventor of the ideological bullshit called 'anarcho capitalism' even wrote an essay with the title 'The Sociology of the Ayn Rand Cult'.

@HorkSupreme

3 жыл бұрын

@@Kuhmuhnistische_Partei " her philosophy was really bad" Why was her philosophy bad? Never had anyone answer. "only rich guys liked her" I don't care if rich people like her or her thoughts. "And she had basically a cult around her where everyone was under constant fear to say something wrong so that she would 'excommunicate' them" A cult eh? Kinda the opposite thing she advocates in the books of her's that I've read, I doubt it's a real thing. Seems like slander to me. Anyways, it's irrelevant to her IDEAS and their merit. "Murray Rothbard, the inventor of the ideological bullshit called 'anarcho capitalism' even wrote an essay with the title 'The Sociology of the Ayn Rand Cult'." So you say Murray Rothbard, who had shitty ideas, wrote a critique on Ayn Rand and I'm suppose to take that at face value as valid after you just insulted the guy. Seems rather inconsistent if you ask me. If the guy has crap ideas why should I listen to him on other issues? So easy question, what are the axioms of her philosophy? If you've read Atlas Shrugged you ought to know.

After all these years I have just now seen Fontaine and the ending of Bioshock

I loved how you explained the story, as well the twist of it. I'm going to go back and play Bioshock to see this for myself. I would really like for you to do something similar with Bioshock 2.

Simply amazing my friend! Your analysis highlighted new themes and points of attention even a long time fan such as myself hadn’t really considered all that much yet. You have earned a subscriber, and I look forward to whatever future content you may provide- I even ordered Prey midway through the video because you made it look good.

God I replayed this like 2 months ago and missed so much of this depth ... there will have to be another playthrough soon

How can you write such an eloquent and well thought out analysis of Bioshock and completely fail to mention that Rapture was a critique of Ayn Rand's Objectivist "philosophy"? That's a pretty important aspect of the game.

@skylex157

3 жыл бұрын

It was not a critique, it was a what would happen if we half assed what ayn rand said, rapture failed because ryan didn't followed individualism (and because a megalomaniac socialist got in power of a drug that mutates people and makes them mindless zombies)

@TK2692

3 жыл бұрын

@@skylex157 You must have played a different game then. The rise of Fontaine and Ryan's abandonment of his ideology to crush him is exactly what would happen in a society that tried to implement that philosophy. Either someone would get powerful enough that they could take over that society or the elites of that society would have to discard those beliefs to prevent a strongman from taking over. And no, Fontaine wasn't a socialist. Not even close.

@skylex157

3 жыл бұрын

@@TK2692 i said socialist, i meant as a facade so people trusted him, the atlas, fontaine is obviously not that I have to recommend you the channel love, life, anarchy, which made a socioeconomical analysis of bioshock and system shock, explaining in detail how abandonning free market, freedom of belief and letting people without the same ideals of progress in were the main causes of the downfall I could try to explain it, but there is no way i can do better than an hour long video

@AnIdiotsLantern

3 жыл бұрын

@@skylex157 if your ideal system requires complete ideological purity from every single human in its society in order to function, then you are setting yourself up to fail. Ryan (and Rand’s) ideal is complete and total self-interest, unfettered from morality or altruism. Fontaine is what happens when just one person takes that philosophy at face value. Ryan can’t even resist his takeover without making himself a hypocrite. Fontaine is just living his best life. How dare you limit him with such petty considerations as “the well being of others.”

@Dark_Peace

3 жыл бұрын

@@TK2692 I'm no Objectivist, not even right wing, but Rodrigo Zabatto is right, you should really watch Love, Life, Anarchy 's analysis of BioShock.

this is one of the best bioshock analysis videos i've seen! I really liked how you talked about each location, and you mentioned a lot of details I missed

This is a fantastic video filled with great points, however one sentence sticks out like a sore thumb to me: "Fort frolic is a level more linear than the rest". I think that's wrong, I think it's the opposite. While the level may have a linear introduction, as soon as you have placed the first photo on the masterpiece, the level is totally free after that. The biggest tell of this freedom is that this is the only level where the, after that point, the quest arrow disappears completely. It is up to you to explore Fort Frolic, collaboraitng with Sander, in any order you choose or discover. You can collect all the photos at once or do them one at a time, you can do them in different orders, explore any of the shops you choose. The only restrictions on this level are the walls themselves (or Cohen yelling at you to get out of his dressing room).

I love that this game still has people talking about it, got me feeling happy.

"A sea of hypocrisy" you say? Well I guess You could call it... ...A *hypocri-sea* :DDDDDDDDDDD im dead inside

@yayazou7937

3 жыл бұрын

Good one

@xChaosFlower

3 жыл бұрын

*puts on sunglasses* YYYYYYYYEEEEAAAHHHH-

@garciasa2z252

3 жыл бұрын

same.

I just found your channel and this instantly hooked me up with your content. I'll be watching your latest video next. It's always the ones with little subscribers who had the most interesting content.

Looking back on this now this is still so good and I think the most satisfying explanation and breakdown given about the philosophy of the first bioshock game and I have to say as someone who played all bioshock games when they came out as a kid, religiously, I'm very happy with this.

Within the first thirty seconds I have already gone to redownload bioshock

Well done video...I look forward to watching your channel grow.

I love the detail of the giant Ryan statue looking down on you, like HE is the god here, even when entering the sphere you can see him looking down on you like some kind of peasant or bug

I remember playing this game for the first time. It was a family trip to my mom's best friends house and our defacto cousins, they always did pizza parties on Fridays where we did LAN parties in a bunch of different rooms on call of duty 2 and 3. The cousin who was my age was playing this game when we visited their house and I gave him my cousin a hard time about playing this game and that it's a silly game but then he let me play some and I got hooked and beat the whole game on his computer in a couple days. We went to the mall later that week and saw Bioshock 2 and bought it for his computer and we beat that one too. Such a fun game and unfortunately I don't remember anything from it but that memory

Good video but I gotta ask how did you do an entire video analysis of Bioshock without mentioning Ayn Rand or Objectivism lol?

When I played this game I was too busy trying to stay alive. I guess that's the price I paid for choosing the hardest difficulty. Great for involving yourself in the gameplay, but distracted me from the depth of the story. I'm sure there are seasoned gamers who will say the difficulty wasn't that hard, but considering that the only FPP games I played were the original Doom, Halflife and then Bioshock, in that order, I am not a seasoned player. I never wanted to be brainwashed into someone who sees killing humans as a normal everyday action.

"0451 games" is such a good term and I want it to catch on

I played this about a decade ago, and all this flew over my head at the time. It's kind of ironic - understanding these topics in games takes a bit of maturity and life experience, but those same qualities convince people to spend their time elsewhere instead of on playing games. I recently fired up my steam account for the first time in years, so I could be projecting.

05:12 - "Artistry should never be mixed with medical science". I have to disagree completely. A very obvious example is plastic surgery, where the surgeon needs to have a feel for aesthetics in order to do good work on his customers. It's a very superficial statement. The splicers in Bioshock are in no way a good representation for that, since they are obviously demented and insane. The root of the gore happening in the medical pavilion lies in the insanity of them, not because art and medical science are mixed here. What even is that statement supposed to mean. 32:40 - Ryan selling addictive Substances to the population of Rapture is in no way the same as taxation. He didn't force them to buy them, whereas taxation uses the threat of force to coerce you into obeying. That is a big difference. It sure doesn't sound to me like you have actually thought philosophically about that statement. I liked the part about sander cohen, since that was the one that was the most consistent and had the least statements that sound smart but really aren't. All in all, good video, though it would be nice to have less superficial statements like the two above.

@dribbler456pls8

3 жыл бұрын

What I think he’s trying to say is that we as people are imperfect, so why try to be perfect if we aren’t ready for it. We see it in our youth today they try to be perfect like their favorite celebs so they try to have plastic surgery but in the end their imperfections are shown more and more. In the game the doctor try’s to make those who don’t love themselves beautiful but ends up disfiguring them in the process.

@Azoth86730

3 жыл бұрын

Addiction is just another form of force. Biological determinism dictated by the will of someone else. I don't see a difference between the threat of imprisonment and being depraved of free will. "Illegal" drugs and the red market will always remain one of the fundamental problems facing libertarianism/minarchism/objectivism/anarcho-capitalism etc.

@taliesin7913

3 жыл бұрын

Plastic surgery for the purpose of cosmetics alone is degenerate.

@dribbler456pls8

3 жыл бұрын

Taliesin I agree, Nothings wrong with using it to fix a disfigured face but using it just to change yourself is completely shitty

@elvingearmasterirma7241

3 жыл бұрын

Well, in theory, taxes are the money you give to the government so that they can fix up roads, pay workers, fund public hospitals, and keep a country running. But yea, governments are corrupt and sometimes they push the idea that its not their job to care for the country or the people. South Africa is sadly a good example of that, as our government is super corrupt and the taxes we pay, that should go to helping to upkeep the country and help other people lines their pockets. Maybe that can be part of the comparison?

"Break that puppy's neck" Fyah fi yuh, Dr. Suchong.

Thanks for this! I've always wanted to know what it was all about because I was never able to grind through the game. Loved this video, well done!

I didn't think I would watch the whole video, because I've only played Bioshock Infinite. But I loved every second of this video.

God, I need to play this game again. Any plans for a Bioshock 2 video at all?

@Leadhead

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe some day, it's not by the same director as 1 and Infinite, so I don't consider it cannon, but I do think it's the gameplay peak of the series

@INFINITE_AM_RADIO

3 жыл бұрын

@@Leadhead lol what a smoothbrain statement

@Bilboswaggins2077

3 жыл бұрын

@@Leadhead why not? I think 2 is a wonderful addition to the canon. The Bioshock 1 tie-in DLCS from Infinite broke the canon

@GingerBeard24

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bilboswaggins2077 I agree.

@menopillion9853

2 жыл бұрын

@@INFINITE_AM_RADIO Congratulations for adding nothing of value.

"i chose what was impossible to capture... i chose... rapture" - dan bull

Fantastic video! Really interesting and engaging! Slight suggestion some of the music choices playing in the background sound a little weird. Like at the end of the video having the very cheerful music while talking about a game that has such a dark atmosphere like bioshock doesnt fit to well in my opinion. Just a little suggestion. Still a great video and i plan to share with my friends!

0:36 I'm saving this for when I'm done with the first game. Got it on Switch a month ago but other stuff has come up.

An interesting take, but some criticisms of your interpretation of the game. -Frank Fontaine always was a subversive, corruptive element in the setting. He was a career criminal well before he even heard of Rapture. He did not share Andrew Ryan's ideals, and was in fact an embodiment of the "The Parasite" that Ryan's beliefs warned of. He didn't come to Rapture to create and rise up on his own merits, he only lied, cheated, and stole what he gained, and intended to make it the "biggest score" in history. Even his business empire was a fraudulent construct at its root, acquiring most assets illegitimately or having businesses be fronts for dishonest activities. Ryan was quite aware that Fontaine was not adhering to the moral rules of Rapture, but much like Mob Bosses of the real world, he was very good at remaining unconnected to the illegal dealings, and this is what Ryan was so frustrated with. Fontaine was not beating Ryan in the open market, he was undermining everything from the start. -You are not far off from the potential hypocrisy of Ryan in how he was portrayed as a 'superior' in society. But it actually does adhere to his beliefs. He built Rapture, it was his financial empire he used, and ultimately cannibalized, to create the city. So, yes, within the preview of his ideology, the physical structure of Rapture was very much his. But from the story presented, he initially tries to 'rule' minimally outside of his few rules for people to live there, it's only with Fontaine subversive intrusion into the city's society that things begin to turn away from the original ideals. -The ideological warfare that Fontaine, and then "Atlas", introduced to oppose Ryan was not merely religion. The elements of religion lingering you see, do feel more like the resurgence of organic remnants from people who came to Rapture, likely fed by the smugglers. What Fontaine specifically introduced, was the polar opposite of the principles of Ryan's Objectivism; Socialism. He was not a religious figure-head in either persona, however he was certainly portraying a Socialistic one, blaming the successful and turning the poor against them, all the while intending to use the downtrodden as pawns for his own ambitions. Comparing his propaganda to socialist forms matches far more closely than anything religious. An aside, but this is touched on again in Infinite with the Vox Populi, only more blatantly. -In the audio-logs, it is made clear that they were aware of the dangerous, addictive nature of the first generation of plasmid's defects. But as they were being made in Fontaine's criminal empire, he actually prevented that from being corrected, despite that Dr. Tenenbaum came forwards with a fix to make them function as advertised without the corrupting side-effects. Fontaine wanted it to degrade the minds of his customers, knowing it would give him control over them. The mind control additive was just an extra measure added later; which Ryan clearly had to make a very pained, similar decision with his own plasmids later on when he learned of Fontaine doing so. The review was quite interesting, I just think overlooking these facets of the plot skewed the presentation in a few odd ways.

@taliesin7913

3 жыл бұрын

But by what right would Ryan exclude someone like Fontaine? Fontaine is all of the things you said, he is dishonest, a schemer, uncreative in the useful sense, and without morals, but society will always have people of this character in it. If Fontaine never came to Rapture, then someone else like him would have arisen, if not coming from the outside, then he would have been born there. and at the end of the day, Fontaine, too, is attempting to capture the sweat of his own brow, just not how Ryan intended. The critique of the game is that the first time the anarcho-capitalist society of Rapture is ever threatened in a real way, it realized how weak it was, and then destroyed itself in order to try and save itself. It would be destroyed either by falling to the stronger force of Socialism, or by abandoning anarcho-capitalism and embracing societal planning in order to overcome Socialism, and thus no longer be what it was.

@iamstartower

3 жыл бұрын

@@taliesin7913 societies are not much different than living beings... and can become infected by malicious entities. As such if you have a parasite that is undermining your quility of life then you seek for a cure in medicine to eliminate the parasite. Ryan should have killed fountain in the first place, Rapture then would have prevailed but then you wouldn't hava a game.

@Genrevideos

3 жыл бұрын

Star Tower That is true to some degree. I do agree that Ryan could have put the kibosh on Fontaine’s criminal exploits by having him “neutralized”. But I think another thing that could also happen is that considering Frank Fontaine was proficient in smuggling operations, I could also see him telling some government body with a powerful Navy coming in and creating a “banana republic” situation. Where Fontaine’s companies are in cahoots with a powerful military and navy force. All to lay siege to the city of Rapture. So that could have happened even if Fontaine was killed before something like that would happen. Frank is a very scheming individual. He would have bought himself enough time to pull something like that off

@emilycrow8278

3 жыл бұрын

lol, Fontaine is socialism? Fontaine is anarcho-capitalist, or more to say the issues that arise from that philosophy and eventually the antithesis of why society needs boundaries. Both Fointaine and Atlas are direct references to the Ayn Rand books The Fountain Head, and Atlas Shrugged. He never once mentioned anything about the means being owned equally by all, he only said he should be in charge of it, because Ryan was blocking his profits. Andrew Ryan is also an in your face reference to Ayn Rand's name itself. With this, Fontaine is just another creation of Ryan, one he hates, and one he had to become "the government" to destroy. They both are the same person, people that profit through exploitation and think they deserve to be crowned for it. I think that's why Ryan hated him so much, because he didn't want to admit that "this parasite" was just a reflection.

@taliesin7913

3 жыл бұрын

@@emilycrow8278 The means of production "being owned equally owned by all" is Communism, lad. Fontaine uses Socialism as a strategy to amass power in Rapture with his Home of the Poor, creation of Rapture's first orphanages, and other efforts meant to aid the lower classes of society who were destitute and felt forgotten. Andrew Ryan would never do any of these things to acquire power. He is a rabid individualist who would have believed that if you're weak and stupid enough to become jobless, and couldn't invent your own way to make resources, you should just starve. He wouldn't create a homeless shelter to feed and clothe people, thereby acquiring their undying loyalty, as Fontaine saw the opportunity to do.

This is my favourite world of all time, I truly wish it existed. Just.. minus the anarchy. I wish they did a prequel where you actually lived as one of the residents during it's golden period.

@evanpaluch6190

2 жыл бұрын

I always wanted that too lol

12:35 I don't remember the audio log, and no one else has talked about it that I've seen, but I 100% agree.

Astonishing work my man, keep it up! It's criminal that you have low views on this video.

"I wanna create a capitalist paradise." "I'm also gonna ignore the most basic rules of economics and turn this place into a dystopian hellhole." Basically, Andrew Ryan.

@AnIdiotsLantern

3 жыл бұрын

Turns out Capitalism can’t protect you from Capitalism. Ryan did everything he was supposed to and built a society founded entirely on self interest. Of course it was just a matter of time before it tore itself apart. See also crabs in a bucket.

@psyxypher3881

3 жыл бұрын

@@AnIdiotsLantern Ryan ignored a lot of the basic rules of Capitalism. To call Rapture a capitalist experiment would be inaccurate.

@AnIdiotsLantern

3 жыл бұрын

@@psyxypher3881 Like the fact that capitalism REQUIRES an underclass, kept in poverty, to function? Otherwise who is going to clean the toilets or do the laundry?

@moonblade7564

3 жыл бұрын

@@AnIdiotsLantern Every system requires that function in society. In every system it will eventually form.

@nonyabuznis2664

3 жыл бұрын

@@moonblade7564 What if everyone was guaranteed food and shelter no matter what their level of productivity was? Do you think nobody would ever clean a toilet then?

I’ve played the game multiple times, immersed myself in the lore, and every time I come back I learn something new. It’s art.

@truthfulpurpose

3 жыл бұрын

Plain and simply... it’s art

My favorite part is that they didnt put another picture frame, or a pop-up saying, "(Optional) Kill and photograph Sander Cohen" - It just lead you there.

I still truly feel that if you kill little sisters you've played bioshock wrong. The ending for saving them is my favorite ending of a game ever. Its also the canon ending of the series which made me feel even more satisfied. In the end being a kind caring person leads to heartwarming results. You save all these little girls only seen as monsters. The 1 thing atlas didn't force on you was the choi e of being kind to monsters or being one yourself. Jack is a wonderfully written character and he never even speaks. Everytime I go back to bioshock and play it I see more and more and of how the narrative points towards Jack having something innocent inside him. Bioshock is and will always be a masterpiece in my eyes

@GingerBeard24

3 жыл бұрын

@Noobie I agree. Also one of the big reasons Bioshock is one of my favorite games is the philosophy of the characters and the story. Same goes for Bioshock 2 but it deals more about psychology (but the game still has philosophy in the second game).

Man Bioshock 1 really does carry on the PC gaming tradition of having really interesting highs, weird lows, and kinda weird, disappointing endings. Good stuff.

I loved Bioshock. Equal best-game-ever for me, together with TLOU. Honourable mentions to System Shock II and Alone in the Dark (the original version). Thanks for you work. Agreed with most - but not all - of it.

One thing I strongly notice during this video... that map of Rapture is completely all over the place! Places that are apparently next to each other, or the next logical step on a journey, are miles away on opposite sides of the map! Particularly, falling down a vent in Hephaestus, in Ryan's office, and ending up in Apollo Square on the other side of the map! How did you get there!? 2 dozen little girls loading you into a dozen carts, one arm here, one leg there, and wheel-dragging you across the whole city? Probably squeezed through a few vents and then finally into a bathysphere... which nobody can operate except Ryan and his close relatives / illegitimate children, ie you, unconscious. If they'd just put Ryan's office on the edge of Hephaestus (damn Greek spelling!) somehow, and had the vent bounce you around here and there to some waiting transport, it might have been practical. But looking at the map, it's ridiculous! Wait, I've thought of it... they got a Big Daddy to carry you all that way. They're strong enough, and nobody messes with them. That'd be an explanation, although still a massively drawn-out and huge impractical one! Regardless... Fort Frolic, all sorts of places, just aren't in the right place at all for the gameplay! I presume they drew the map early on deciding it didn't matter too much since everything was done in bathyspheres, but even so it's monumentally wrong!

This vid is great, especially since I just finished BioShock, but I do feel the need to mention that you aren't the Hacker in SS2, you play as him in SS1

Raycevick and mandalore are good creators worth a watch

This was a half hour video that basically told me I'm unobservant as hell. I went through the entire game in I think two goes, that were split by probably half a year of not touching it, taking in total maybe two whole days to complete. I guess my brain turns off when I play games because I missed basically all of the nuance of the *entire* story save for the _smack-in-your-face_ brainwash reveal. Didn't connect that the chain tattoos reflected "The Great Chain" or even that THE ENTIRE PLOT revolved intricately around industry, art, and science that made the great chain. I remember very keenly at some point in the story Ryan says "I think it's time I gave the great chain a tug" in response to something Fontaine did and I noticed a statue of the great chain ONCE later and thought "oh, that's cool, it's the thing he said." I'm an *IDIOT!* Since I don't remember ANY of the audiologs, I'm guessing what happened was anytime I listened to one, I immediately forgot whatever it said because I was on-edge THE ENTIRE GAME. For me, there were such ENORMOUS periods of silence where any enemy suddenly scared the bujeezus out of me. In retrospect, even though I was playing on hard, I should have loosened up once I realized I was never dying (don't think I did the entire game actually... probably from how much of a bitch I was being throughout the entire thing) and also never finding myself short on health or eve. I guess that's also a testament to its atmosphere though. Watching this gameplay, I was also WAY too frugal, being I'm one of those gamers that always saves the super weapon for the big bads and then never uses them in those fights anyways. I did the same thing in infinite goddammit, maxed out upgrades on the starting pistol and then just used that the entire game (though it's really good and actually continues to be my favorite gun out of any game ever). Good video, I liked it.

"Science without conscience is but the ruin of the soul" F. Rabelais Never saw anything that is a better explanation of this quote.

@tunebeat3809

2 жыл бұрын

Science and ethics must go side by side.

I know this video is old, but your dialog is spot on. I'd totally watch a whole playthrough with the only regret being that I could only listen, and not engage in the discussion.