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@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299

4 жыл бұрын

Jack being a mute entity also reminds me of Doom 2016. The Doom marine never speaks but his actions ''say'' it all :P

@kevinvu5432

4 жыл бұрын

You sure act deep....but your jokes completely diminish your point. Your whole point isnt all that new. Others have pointed it out.

@x_hibernia

4 жыл бұрын

And you think they were the first, really you never heard of half-life?, They were the first to show you a narrative without breaking immersion, that includes a mute and cut scenes that let you interact with or without your consent, also bioshock was meant to be system shock 2 hence why everyone thought it would be in space also how can you be a writer and not like reading

@sebastianbass2219

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I was lucky enough to pick it up for free and play it for the first time on PS4.

@nathanvaughn9284

4 жыл бұрын

Curious how you got kicked out of college? But, I loved the video and am subscribed now

When the Atlas picture switched to Fontaine that was my first true act of being betrayed in my life.

@christopherterzakos6118

4 жыл бұрын

same

@pearlexquisite935

4 жыл бұрын

I knew something was up with him

@daddykarlmarx6183

4 жыл бұрын

Oh I guess you had a dad

@0c3An50uL

4 жыл бұрын

Sadly - that was my first tought after the first few minutes in Rapture. So... It was not a surprise.

@Luca-bv5ic

4 жыл бұрын

@@pearlexquisite935 ye he was clearly fishy.

I’ll literally NEVER get the bioshock 2 hate, plus no one ever has valid reasons...

@The_Voluptuary

4 жыл бұрын

Takeo Masaki Incidentally BS2 is my favourite, because of its DLC.

@lord_of_gingers

4 жыл бұрын

Takeo Masaki it’s the weakest of the trilogy, and not made by 1 and infinite’s parent company.

@kujo4388

4 жыл бұрын

imnot aginger infinite is the weakest, the best part of infinite is the dlc.

@mrj5256

4 жыл бұрын

Totally agree.. On a personal note it was my favorite..

@salvy9668

4 жыл бұрын

Takeo Masaki Its story and environment was pretty weak and it lacked the twists and turns of BioShock 1. The only thing it really has going for it is its gameplay and even then, there were several times where I literally just wanted to turn the game off out of boredom, something that never happened during BS1 and Infinite.

"The original Bioshock, Bioshock Infinite, and... the other one." I--- Bioshock 2 was the game that got me into the series and will always be my favorite. I don't understand all the hate it gets lol

@nerdythespian1212

4 жыл бұрын

CrazyBailee from everything I’ve gathered based on what I’ve read and talked about, most people don’t actually hate it, but think it’s the weakest of the trilogy because it didn’t live up to their expectations and/or felt that it was too similar to Bioshock1 in terms of gameplay.

@Username-wj8pz

4 жыл бұрын

@@nerdythespian1212 It had a much weaker plot, but the gameplay was much better than BioShock 1's.

@zwilder1

4 жыл бұрын

lol bioshock 2 got me into the series too

@franksinatra2024

4 жыл бұрын

It's story was way too slow and boring that it just ending up being a shittier Bioshock game which is why it got so much hate the 1st was good no need for a replica

@jessie801000

4 жыл бұрын

Frank Sinatra but it wasn’t a replica, it expanded on what was already there, made the world of rapture bigger and darker.

"Here is an element secretly hidden beneath the surface that many players miss." *Describes the twist of the game which is all but explicitly stated through the game's narrative*

@eduardovarela4462

4 жыл бұрын

Yes

@SammEater

4 жыл бұрын

This is what we call a pro clickbaiter move.

@thegreatashby9076

4 жыл бұрын

Yea this Timbo guy is a pseudo intellectual.

@dominichumlie

4 жыл бұрын

@@thegreatashby9076 I believe he was more or less shedding light on an uncommon writing technique, taking advantage of your story's medium.

@thegreatashby9076

4 жыл бұрын

Dominic Humlie Funny isn’t it? how the title of a video and its actual subject matter differ nowadays.

To summarize the major point of this video (also this video has spoilers and so does this comment so if you have not yet done so, PLEASE PLAY BIOSHOCK FIRST): -Bioshock is a first-person narrative with a silent protagonist, making the player project themselves into the role of Jack. -the major twist of Bioshock is that Jack was only following orders because he was being mind-controlled and was tricked. -the player in Bishock follows commands because it is a video-game, and therefore they follow orders because the game tells them to. -Because the player projected themselves onto Jack, and because Jack was being mind-controlled, _the player_ was therefore being mind-controlled, which aligns with the fact that they blindly followed major objectives given to them. Essentially, the archetypal structure of how a video game functions was turned into a plot point.

@moonraven6145

4 жыл бұрын

Pretty much, very smartly done as well.

@freddywilson6784

4 жыл бұрын

MGS2 did it first and better. Though I absolutely love both of these games.

@Slowpoke3x

4 жыл бұрын

So basically the video is rehashing everything the player figured out after Andrew Ryan died.

@naturesquad9174

4 жыл бұрын

"Wow you did thing in game just like game character!" No.

@mohamedelkayal2068

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks. And remember kids!.....A man chooses, a slave obeys.

Man people have been writing about this literally since the game came out.

@brucedobiecki7254

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I was expecting something new from the video, this has been talked about since release.

@SammEater

4 жыл бұрын

@Tyler Ramos Exactly, it's a mix of "what's hot now" and clickbait.

Jack funnily enough isn't a completely silent protagonist, he gets a small monologue at the beginning of the game when he is sitting on the plane EDIT: wow, thanks for all the likes guys

@gingeriscry4587

4 жыл бұрын

I feel like that's more like exposition or trying to get the player to relate to Jack immediately, to start the connection right then and there.

@tannerewing8185

4 жыл бұрын

Plus all the painful screams

@Justmyhandle

4 жыл бұрын

*+agbrenv* The reason that works to the game & character's benefit, however, without taking away from us immersing ourselves into the role, is because of what Jack specifically says: "They told me, 'Son, you're special, you were born to do great things.' You know what? They were right." At first glance, that line is as vague and milquetoast-generic as dialogue gets. It's such a common thing more than a few parents have told their children throughout history. It's the kind of motivational dialogue movies & books have made a cliche of using. And yet, upon deeper analysis, you see that this not only doesn't detract at all from the player projecting on Jack like a blank canvas. It also makes sense in context of story. Jack WAS special, from Fontaine's pov. He WAS born to do "great" things, relating to Fontaine's goals for his role in dethroning Ryan. Most of us fantasize about being that important. We imagine ourselves outside the mundane everyday as key players in some grand plot with a larger purpose or destiny. Bioshock turns that fantasy on its head to a disturbing level. The power fantasy of guns & plasmids is juxtaposed by the revelation that Jack (and you) were a pawn in someone else's game all along. And the scariest part: He didn't even know it. With all this in mind, Jack's concept as a vessel for the player is not infringed upon by him not technically being 100% silent (not saying you argued otherwise, just making a point).

@thatonehumanoid7756

4 жыл бұрын

Isn’t it such a funny coincidence that he becomes a silent protagonist right as the Would You Kindly stuff starts?

@Justmyhandle

4 жыл бұрын

@@thatonehumanoid7756 Holy sh*t, I never thought of that! 🤯 To be fair though, he is silent in the beginning before entering Rapture too, after his one line on the plane. Maybe you could partially chalk it up to fear too, as Jack is quickly introduced to and thoroughly educated in the horrors of the fallen city? It may also be survival instinct. He wasn't trained to fight and then suffered amnesia, but retained his muscle memory skills like Jason Bourne. He has to learn & adapt to survive against the splicers. Lastly, it may be a product of Fontaine's mental conditioning, to help Jack blend in on the surface and make for a better sleeper agent without attracting unwanted attention. After all, much like Andrew Ryan, Fontaine was paranoid about not wanting surface authorities (FBI, CIA, KGB, etc) to learn what was happening at the time in Rapture.

Honestly what made bioshock such a memorable game for me, wasn’t the twist...it was great but it was the.”good ending” where you save the girls and they save you

@discofan1999

4 жыл бұрын

literally tears of joy at that moment there's no happier ending 💜

@FilthyCasual27344

4 жыл бұрын

goth gamer boy same

@rem9142

4 жыл бұрын

Thought it was beautiful. I already thought it was pretty fun but the ending took it all to a whole other level

@j_g9109

3 жыл бұрын

My boyfriend came out of the bedroom. I had just ended the game and was all wet eyes and sniffles. “Was it a sad ending???” Sniff sniff... “No... it was beautiful” as I proceeded to explain it in a way that did it no justice. I’ve never chosen anything but the happy ending. I’m just sappy I guess. 😊

@myceliacorpus

6 ай бұрын

I still cry over it l😢

I don’t need to explain my love for the Bioshock series, it’s self evident. The first is a masterpiece, and Infinite is a mind trip (unfortunately, the DLC really messed with the established canon outlined in the Bioshock: Rapture book, which really irritated me). Bioshock 2 is genuinely not as bad as people dunk on it for. Sure, it’s story is not as good as the first but it’s still fairly good and fleshes out the ideological conflicts at the heart of Rapture’s tragic downfall. The gameplay is also much improved and seeing Rapture rendered in higher fidelity and more detail than the first game was a real treat. Good analysis on the meta theme of Bioshocks twist, I’d like to see you tackle Infinite in a similar fashion with it’s themes.

@Knights_of_the_Nine

4 жыл бұрын

I thought the story of 2 was amazing. It definitely has better endings. Getting the ending where I make bad decisions but deny Elenor taking me into her, showing her that she needs to be better, was pretty powerful. I miss my little Elenor =,]

@andrewryan1946

4 жыл бұрын

Knights of the Nine That’s another great aspect of Bioshock 2, the Little Sisters are genuinely adorable and I want to protect them. It feels awful harvesting them. The Bioshock 1 versions are ugly gremlins that elicit no sympathy whatsoever. They don’t even react to harvesting, just have a pouty face and are motionless. Bioshock 2 did them much, much better.

@rageinducer2455

4 жыл бұрын

Would you kindly elaborate on how you can type letters after getting your head turned to grape juice.

@andrewryan1946

4 жыл бұрын

Rage Inducer There was an active vita-chamber just outside my office. You think if my son can revive at a chamber across an entire fishery, I can’t revive at the one just down the hall? The disabled chamber in my office was merely my final grand distraction. It worked perfectly

@FilthyCasual27344

4 жыл бұрын

Andrew Ryan i loved the dlc

Bioshock 2 is dope. I dont know why people give it such a hard time. It delivered everything it had to, and told a part of the story that needed to be told, and it gave you all the things that youd expect to come with that, given the time of its release. I played it about 3 months ago for the first time and I really REALLY enjoyed it

@taterc229

4 жыл бұрын

it was a much more personal story and didn't have a ridiculous 'twist' so people tend to bash it. the story was tight and focused, while 1's whole hook is a goofy twist that's more than a little contrived.

@GuitarQueero1

4 жыл бұрын

I think 2 just doesn't stand out as much. It's all very cut and shut whereas the original is just more interesting. Infinite is fucky with it's parallel universe and complicated ending. In the end, 2 just feels kinda plain jane.

@alexgomez4105

4 жыл бұрын

GuitarQueero1 plus bioshock 1 was alot scarier

@deBill222

4 жыл бұрын

Bioshock 2 is a pretty good game which I enjoyed from beginning till the end, but imagine if they made game so awesome and immersive that every other game from the same serie feels like cheap ripoff? I don't know, just one man's opinion.

@phoenixchase9271

4 жыл бұрын

Tater C I mean I count Sinclair being turned into an Alpha Series a twist but that’s about it

2 was my favorite, sorry but I love the big old school FPS elements it had and enjoyed seeing my character grow stronger and more fearsome. Also 2 had a better hacking system so theres that

@SPACEB0YZER0

4 жыл бұрын

The story dlc on number 2 is my favorite bioshock experience

@pskeifk

4 жыл бұрын

GTFO has pretty much the same hacking system as BioShock 2.

@t.o.p.4175

4 жыл бұрын

@@pskeifk ummm no...

@pskeifk

4 жыл бұрын

@@t.o.p.4175 I haven't actually played the game myself, I've only seen let's plays of it, but the hacking system seems straight up ripped from BioShock 2.

@LandelRey

4 жыл бұрын

Ye, the gooey pipes sucked

You know, they almost made this into a movie. They got really damn close, actually. You can find concept art and storyboards online. Ken Levine, who was writing and producing, pulled the plug after he couldn't find a director once Gore Verbinski dropped out, and Universal wasn't ready to shell out $200 million for a hard-R-rated film based on a video game. It probably would've sucked, but I can't help but think it might've worked, especially with the original writer on board.

@BlakeAlecMiranda

4 жыл бұрын

They might have a leg to stand on now that R-rated horror films have been box office successes (IT Chapters 1&2, Hereditary). I'm hopeful the studios will see the audience draw of this franchise, it's such a great story

@DivergentDroid

4 жыл бұрын

Uwe Boll wouldn't do it? His BloodRyane movies and Blubberella were Fantastic. The Genius of Uwe Boll is that while he was making the 3rd BloodRyane film, he would direct the cast of Blubberella right after the BloodRyane actors shot. This way, he didn't have to pay for resources for a second movie. He shot 2 films at once on the BloodRyane films budget. All are a Blast to watch.

@Mister3Smiley

4 жыл бұрын

Some things are meant to be video games not movies. I really don’t see how things like ADAM would work in a movie since its meant for game mechanics but also pretty big part of the story.

@ProgrammedForDamage

4 жыл бұрын

@@BlakeAlecMiranda Exactly. Due to recent examples where R-rated movies are raking in the audiences and movies based on video games don't carry an inherent stink to them (thanks Sonic), this could actually get off the ground.

@KOZtic

4 жыл бұрын

Have you heard of "Edge of Tomorrow" and "Predestination"? It's like both of those put together but in the futures. And yes, I meant to pluralize "futures".

BioShock 2's ending is one that made me more emotional than any other game endings.

@XxREALg4ngst4xX

Жыл бұрын

Best ending in a story based game

Fontaine’s evil laugh during the big reveal sends shivers down my spine, even when I know the twist

Out of all of the games I have ever played, I never saw atlas being the main villain twist coming, near when I got to Ryan, I had my suspicions but when I realised it was mind-control (like cod Cold War) shook me, the quote: “a man chooses, a slave obeys” will stay with me forever

A pretty solid breakdown on why Bioshock 1's twist is so effective, good stuff. ...but also Bioshock 2 is under appreciated and better than Infinite.

@sisterlillybug3142

4 жыл бұрын

I like BioShock infinite but I agree that two is definitely underrated

@bevanmcnicholl2525

4 жыл бұрын

Why compare 1 or 2 to Infinite? Waste of time, different type of games ..... Proves nothing.

@skeetzneph870

4 жыл бұрын

I love bioshock 1 I find 2 ok and infinite is still decent but it does not feel like bioshock and I feel it could have gotten a better success under a different name

@Holy_Discourses

4 жыл бұрын

@@bevanmcnicholl2525 Thats false fanboy, infinite tries everything the first and the second do except unlike the first two games it failed time and again.

@Watcher-hh4mu

4 жыл бұрын

Bioshock 2 is just less significant version of Bioshock 1. At least Infinite stands on its own two feet and offers a thought provoking story. Infinite is better than Bioshock 2.

MOSTLY mute. Jack actually says a few lines in the opening of the first game. 8:21

@epicman10185

4 жыл бұрын

Internal thoughts.

@mackielunkey2205

4 жыл бұрын

epicman10185 Yeah but we hear Jack though.

@RevPerdueJosh

4 жыл бұрын

Wait, a mute person can internally dialogue, that would still count as a mute character because they aren’t actively speaking. Does he actually SPEAK one line of dialogue in the game?

@thefreshprincer5587

3 жыл бұрын

Doesn't he yell really loud when he first injects a plasmid

0:03 aaaaand I’m gone.

@nialpollitt3410

4 жыл бұрын

Same.

"And the other one" This kid needs to learn some respect.

@sandrorocha790

4 жыл бұрын

"The other one" is amazing.

@onetruth37

4 жыл бұрын

@@sandrorocha790 exactly. Sure it was weak at time with environment and story, but it was still a good game

@lucifersatanwater9188

4 жыл бұрын

if anything, infinite should be "the other one" 😂

@onetruth37

4 жыл бұрын

@@lucifersatanwater9188 yeah. That was a good game too, but it didn't feel like a Bioshock game at all. Too fast paced and shoot-em-up

@smhpart2returnofthedisappo754

4 жыл бұрын

@@lucifersatanwater9188 Nah I disagree, I believe BioShock 2 is the "worst BioShock". However that isnt an insult, it's still like a 9/10. Every game in this series is a gem.

I love this series so much. I got tattoos of it even. "Would you kindly?" And "a man chooses a slave obeys" around the chains Jack has. Makes them difficult to explain to people who haven't played it though

@alejandrofernandez6924

4 жыл бұрын

Wow. You are trully a fan.

@Slipknot4769

4 жыл бұрын

If I ever get a videogame tattoo, it's definitely gonna be Bioshock. No idea what it would be exactly though.

@rubeeverno9062

4 жыл бұрын

@@Slipknot4769 I also want a tattoo from Bioshock Infinite and God of War

I clicked this video the moment I saw Bioshock in the title.

"The Twist You Missed" I don't think anyone missed it, that's why it's such a loved game. Good video still. And yeah I loved BS1, BS2, and the DLC for Infinite.

Hotline Miami's 'Do you like hurting other people?' quote does kind of the same thing, that game messed me up for a while...

@kahlei98

4 жыл бұрын

Hotline Miami and BioShock are my favorite games of all time. Both have an amazing story if you look deeper

@mr.baldzher5193

4 жыл бұрын

Strongly agree with both of you, played all BioShock and HM games on my PS3 and to this day find myself thinking about how great they were and how sad it is that no sequels for both of them will ever get released. Might be a good thing though, as the stories told us everything they had offered, continuations could potentially ruin it all.

@seeknprotect6179

4 жыл бұрын

Yes I do. But that’s illegal and leaves a bad aftertaste

I was 21 in 2007. Those were the days

00:03 don't ever disrespect my mans like this ever again 😤

@LyricalWrench

4 жыл бұрын

Same, I became big sad when I saw that

"There are many examples of stories in a medium that simply don't fit, for example look at, all videogame movies." The Sonic Movie: "Am I a joke to you?"

@davidburke4101

4 жыл бұрын

This came out the day of the sonic movie so at the time he was creating this video, it didn't exist.

@normang3668

4 жыл бұрын

Sonic was definitely the exception to the rule. It's still really hard to take something that's 90% gameplay mechanics and 10% story, and translate it to a medium that's almost entirely story driven.

@KOZtic

4 жыл бұрын

@@normang3668 Well that's the thing. Games like BioShock are 50% gameplay mechanics and 50% storyline while Sonic is 90% gameplay and 10% story. So translating that sonic game with almost a blank slate for story writing doesn't sound so difficult while BioShock is much more complex, and therefor requires such a unwritten rule. If anything, it's best to divide games into this subdivision of games that can be retold over and over without loss of quality and games that have a specific story and thoughtfully chosen gameplay and there's nothing else that can imaginably do better to explain the story.

Remember how the mechanical bird drowned in Rapture in Bioshock Infinite? Well, you can hear its screams in the first Bioshock. When I first found that out, I got goosebumps bigger than my moobs, and I got them on my moobs. So I had moobs that were more than double their regular size in that moment.

Ken Levine has already discussed, in detail, all of these concepts and more in the Bioshock Director’s Commentary so you haven’t discovered anything new, you’re just repeating the same thing the creator of Bioshock has already discussed at length over 3 years ago

@aarongareau6399

4 жыл бұрын

Was hoping they'd discuss the universe more instead of 13 minutes of why jack doesn't talk ...like link from the 64.

Bioshock was ahead of its TIME

In regards to whether or not a story like this could work in any other medium, I think the best approach in that regard would be to focus more on things like the Rapture Civil War and elements that don't involve jack so much. I actually imagine the backstory in Rapture would make for a great Netflix series.

I think the first person “silent protagonist” view lends itself even more to the story than you stated. We don’t see Jack, hear them or feel what they’re feeling and the silent trope is so popular we don’t even realize that it’s being used to show Jack has no control over what they’re doing. We may “think” it’s a linear game, but it’s just the forceful guiding hand of Fontaine’s command (least till jack gets free then it’s jacks revenge). He’s silent the whole time cause he’s a mindless soldier. Maybe he even knows and feels the control but we the audience don’t.

@qty1315

4 жыл бұрын

The game opens with a monologue from Jack, and we get to hear his voice in an audiolog at a certain point. He's not completely silent, he's just silent when YOU'RE controlling him.

Bruh bio shock 2 was so underrated :(

@TheUglyBuckling

4 жыл бұрын

It's my favorite one in the series

@acmiguens

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheUglyBuckling I still enjoy 1 just a bit more, but 2 had the best Collector's Edition :D

The overarching themes of KOTOR 1 and 2 combined basically did the same things you described but with a great many more layers, and they came out 3 and 4 years before bioshock respectively. I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on those games.

@storyteller4473

4 жыл бұрын

Oh gosh I love KOTOR! I was what, 13 when I first played it? Still love it a decade later and come back every now and then. So happy they released the first one for android

@brucedobiecki7254

4 жыл бұрын

And MGS2 did it before everyone.

@wadedeason3365

4 жыл бұрын

@@storyteller4473 I keep wanting to replay KOTOR but I hate Taris with a passion. I loathe going there in SWTOR.

@storyteller4473

4 жыл бұрын

@@wadedeason3365 yeah I know that feel 😭 I dropped SWTOR after my Sith Warrior became the Wrath of the Emperor and still haven't continued after all these years (4, maybe?). It's just... all the farming... ehhhh

The first-person, completely intractable "cutscenes" also make the entire experience feel so much more real, especially when they threw that Bouncer through a window.

You make some really great points about how the perspective plays a big part if the impact of this game. Because letting you be Jack, and not seeing it from a outside perspective, made everything so much more personal when you learn the twist. It is rare a video game invokes such strong emotions from me. I remember feeling sincerely confused, betrayed, angry, and questioning soooo many things I had decided throughout the game, and then was determined to fight him, to stop him, even when it just seemed impossible to do anything. It was the first game that ever made me feel things so strongly, and I still looove the game. Of course, this game is also why I question the intentions of video game characters in other games who seem to be helpful. And I swear hearing anyone saying the words "Would you kindly" gives me flashbacks.

You should play mgs2, it also has similar overall themes but also questions the role between the player and a player character in regard to free will

Thanks for pointing out the filming method for the film 1917, made me curios enough to want to watch it.

This is one of the few games that I played knowing nothing about it playing it, which made “atlas’” betrayal so much more gut wrenching

all I have to say is this is what your channel needs. you do this style of video super well!

I'm recently getting invested into Bioshock, so I'm happy to see recent videos of it.

@boygenius538_8

4 жыл бұрын

ColorHeartCarlie 42 was it ps plus?

"bioshock" *glances at subscribe button with malicious intent*

@DraconicDuelist

4 жыл бұрын

Hates on Bioshock 2 *Backs away from subscribe button to watch full video first*

@AccountingDerek

4 жыл бұрын

Draconic Duelist Call me a casual but I enjoy Infinite, like, a lot but that might just be me

@DraconicDuelist

4 жыл бұрын

@@AccountingDerek I like Infinite too, but it's my 3rd favorite in the series (so far). I just hate it when people hate on Bioshock 2 (my favorite in the series). I have only 2 real complaints about 2: It was too short. And They removed some of the cool features from the first one.

This is why I loved BioShock so much. Some people doesn't like the many fetch quests in the main story, but I think it fits perfectly because of the twist at the end, but also because of the immersive environments, and the many things you do to get the items you're told to get. It isn't simply "Go to X location and grab this item" but instead, you'll encounter challenges on the way, and get to fully explore the environments without being forced to go to the next area by the main story.

Where Bioshock surpassed System Shock was its story that was based on actual real philosophies and history as an alternate reality. Andrew Ryan was a play of Ayn Rand who wrote Atlas Shrugged where Rapture is the setting. Bioshock Infinite's setting was an alternative post civil war world.

@Rob_Is_An_Idiot

4 жыл бұрын

Atlas Shrugged second half takes place in a hidden valley, on land.

@normang3668

4 жыл бұрын

I'd argue that System Shock's story was on par or better than Bioshock's. . . I know, not a popular opinion (way more people also played Bioshock so there's probably so favouritism there.) Playing both games, Bioshock really feels like a resurrection, or a do-over; it feels like they were disappointed with System Shock's comparably disappointing sales and knew they had a good game on their hands. Bioshock borrows so much from those earlier games.

@miguels.b.2749

4 жыл бұрын

I think they got some inspiration from the book "The Devil in the white city" for BS Infinite

I must say: Andrew Ryan always struck me as a mixture of Walt Disney and Howard Hughes. Though that may be a generational thing... Love the video!!

@dzikripratama3776

3 жыл бұрын

And Mr. House

@Antractica

3 жыл бұрын

He's Ayn Rand

Wasn't all that rare at the time actually. You had stuff like Deus Ex and System Shock already, and Fallout 3 was the following year. You'd be surprised just how many similar titles were out there when Bioshock came out that tried to do all of the same things at once. Bioshock just did it all really, really well.

@TakittixD

4 жыл бұрын

Not a surprise that Fallout 3/NV Deus ex and Bioshock are all in my top 5 favourite games.

And THIS is one of the many many MANY reasons Bioshock is my favorite game of all time! Also, it's really pleasant to hear someone analyse another media through the eyes of a writer. As an occasional writer myself, it helps to see things with an all new perspective

Amazing video :) loved watching your progression as a creator to talk about things you find interesting as opposed to doing what you feel obligated

I think that dead space 1 did this really well too

@Klausinator451

4 жыл бұрын

Issac had EXTREME emotion at the end when he watched the whole video. His body language sold it so well. (That being said, Gunner Wright is awesome. And every time I play 1 I wish I could hear him once in a while)

Wow, made me realize something.... If BioShock was a movie the best candidate for Andrew Ryan would be Johnny Depp

The point you make about objectives actually applied to my playthrough, when Tenenbaum wipes all of Franks triggers from you and you have your own goals I loudly said that there was no marker and I didnt know what to do now that people werent directing me. Truly a masterpiece

Bioshock 2 is objectively the best in the series. It's an improvement on the original in literally every way, without changing the formula too much and jumping the shark like Infinite did. People just hate on it because it was made by a different studio.

Imagine if you combined all the best parts of all 3 bioshocks. The story and eeriness of 1, the combat of 2, and the ambition of infinite.

well there IS a story that's narrated in second person. it's called Homestuck... also technically Undertale, with the "YOU are filled with determination". most of the narration and the story works like that in undertale

@harrylane4

4 жыл бұрын

Undertale isn't 2nd person, specifically because of the "twist" that frisk and Chara aren't the character you named in the beginning.

@Nedoiko

4 жыл бұрын

@@harrylane4 I would argue that's more reason for it being in second person, as it uses the second person to trick the player into the narrative

@joshshrum2764

4 жыл бұрын

Kitt Betelgeuse Well it’s first person when the monsters are talking to you but it’s 2nd person when nobody is talking to you.

Notice how in fort Frolic when Atlas isn’t telling you what to do there’s no arrow and you can to the objectives in any order ? No mind control and he’s free to do what he wants as he choses

Jack isn't a completely silent protagonist. He does speak one time. In the opening, in the plane, looking at the gift, he has a couple lines. He IS silent after that.

Infinite does a variation of this, basically poking fun at the fact that no matter what you do the game is linear, with false choices always having the same outcome.

It’s interesting that you bring up the point about, are we pawns? Just doing what we’re told? Do we really have a choice? This is actually a point they brought up for bioshock infinite. Leaving many “choices” with only one option, which made the player feel helpless. I think the creators of bioshock are just brilliant, every detail is so carefully considered.

wow loved the vid, wished it was longer tho, i feel like theres so much more to be said

I just discovered your channel and this was a really good look into Bioshock! I recently just finished the game and I absolutely loved it. Please do more!

0:27 that made my pug go insane she ran around barking the house down

I relived my childhood when the collection came out 😅😊 I was so happy I finished all three games in the span of 6 and a half days

8:37 OBJECTION! Jack talks at the very beginning of the game, when he's on the plane.

Jack being mute and Booker not was 100% deliberate. Constants and variables.

The Bioshock series is awesome.

@antonhallergren588

3 жыл бұрын

No game triology ever had all 9.5/10 and up games. Only thing I’d rate badly is Burial at sea because it felt confined and cut togheter way to much.

@superpug3514

2 жыл бұрын

@@antonhallergren588 burial at sea was better than the entire story of infinite.

This was a fun video to watch, since its my first time playing the Bioshock series.

I had thought abt this exact point but it feels good to have a spelt out for others too It also makes u think abt the limitation of games where even after brain washing is undone, u have to listen to the doctor trying to save the little sisters

Oh my god man, just ended Bioshock a week ago and you upload this, saying things that I thought. This relieved me, thank you

I’ve played through this game how many times and I still don’t know what the harvesting little sister animation looks like

This is exactly why I tell younger gamers who haven't played it yet, "DO NOT just go watch a 'Let's Play' of the game; it won't have the same impact as playing it yourself, and you'll wonder what all the fuss is about. Also, once the twist is spoiled, you can never undo that, and you've robbed yourself of one of the greatest gaming experiences of all time."

@joshshrum2764

4 жыл бұрын

Goattacular Okay boomer.

@No-xw7mo

4 жыл бұрын

Josh Shrum Gay

Another good piece of entertainment that makes it look like the camera’s doin one continuous shot for most of the movie is Birdman or (The Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance). The way it captures the inner workings of the theater and the situations the characters are in make you feel like you’re actually there, bein part of an experience to feel the actor’s and actresses’ stress as they put on the show, as well as seein their personal demons unravel, really makes that film feel almost like no other.

i played bioshock in 2009, when i was 23, my previous pc wasnt able to run it. it was like 20fps on low details. anyway, i still remember vividly, how my jaw dropped after the "would you kindly" explanation and it was SO good, because it took into account and solved the problem of player action vs dev intent. you as the player, didnt even try not obey your "orders" because youre focus on doing, what a quest text says in a game. that had such a big impact, that almost no other game ever reached. i felt played by the devs but in a good way. and the hints were there all the time, from the beginning but i didnt see them as such.

I am 14 years old. I never played BioShock. Last sunday i downloaded the collection. I regret not playng BioShock first

@MistorDi

4 жыл бұрын

Don't worry, the stuff mentioned in the video is actually lame. People are singing overblown praises to it which may lead to disappointment if you have higher standards.

Feels good to see that there are others who still love Bioshock as much as I do 🥰 They are and will always be my favorite stories!!

@luxborealis

4 жыл бұрын

I love Bioshock too, I even convinced several youtubers into playing it years after it came out, like Watermelonz.

@lunarsann5499

4 жыл бұрын

W8 girls play this too?!! You're a mad lad. I couldn't finish the game because of the scary atmosphere lol.

@michaelbush1374

4 жыл бұрын

You're not alone Sydney. We got a whole community and we're all hesitantly awaiting bioshock 4.

The twist is that Andrew Ryan was actually Joel getting beaten up to death with a golf club

@GingerBeard24

3 жыл бұрын

At least Bioshock did it right.

@notme6753

3 жыл бұрын

@@GingerBeard24 true

Last week I finished bioshock for the third time in my life and it is still, to this day, an absolute masterpiece. The way it makes you feel is unmatched.

Man, this was good. More like it, please.... Happy V-tines day, you beautiful disembodied voice.

1:03 system shock’s comin for your knees

Anyone else run back up the stairs the first time they meet the big daddy smashing that splicer into the window by you?

@liquidbismuth1044

4 жыл бұрын

No, because you aren't able to. Lol

I actually read a few Psychology papers that touched and sometime focused on this topic. They were really interesting to read, and I'm glad to see their idea summed up into a video. Sadly, I don't remember the name of the book that had compiled these papers.

Good watch! One of my all thime favorite games!

"And the other one..." Them sounds like fightin' words boy.

The writer of Far Cry 3 advocated for a similar reading of his game. Bioshock, obviously, executed that idea way better though I think you can question the whole idea of us being gamers and wondering about why we play. Because these kind of questions are much more powerful if you actually have a choice in the games themselves.

I'm just starting to play Bioshock now that PS has it for free, and I am thoroughly satisfied. Can't believe I let this series pass me by.

This is such a well thought out video I love it. Got the chills.

Good video mate! But you haven't said anything new. One of the main reasons Bioshock's twist is still considered the best in gaming history since day 1 is because of the commentary on gamers blindly following directions... still though, nice vid

Just finished bioshock for the first time tonight! Fantastic game! I couldn’t agree with you more! Very glad I took the time to play this classic :)

having played the game well over 20 times , I came into this thinking there's no way you got something i'm surprised by, but you truly did . well done

That "other one" AKA bioshock 2 is the best one though imo. Bioshock Infinite totally fall flat on some story aspects (the rebel parts) & failed to realized the supposed semi open world levels with a lot more expansive multiple dimensions.

"The other one" bro dont diss bioshock 2

Something I've thought about in this game a lot is that even after you find out that jack has been a puppet and that atlas has been controlling you with the phrase "would you kindly", atlas asks you if you would kindly put Adams genetic key in the machine and suddenly your perspective changes to you outside of the game as you realize you have to do what you are being told and its not just your character that is the puppet but you as well. The ONLY way to progress through the game is to do what he says. You are the slave playing the game. A man chooses a slave obeys.

My brother got the bioshock collection for PlayStation plus, and I remembered watching my older cousin play the first game whenever I slept over at his house, and I just had to play the game, and I do not regret it, it’s one of my favorite games of all time

Well.. i did enjoy the video but you jebaited me and got me to click on the video. Unless someone was 6yrs old at the time, the added layer you mentioned is something no one missed. Its why people liked the twist and still talk about it to this day. Its not because this person was this person and those words were used here. It was because of the perspective and the medium and how we interact with it here and in others. Its also the reason why no one cares about what happens after that moment and the rest of the game is rarely talked about.

Yes, I did click on this because I just finished the whole collection. Great vid btw

So full of yourself. You don't read but somehow understood the game better than anyone else ever has? Bless your heart.

Bioshock Infinite should be regarded as “the other one” as opposed to BioShock 2. Infinite removed the RPG elements of the first two games, removed the strategy of choosing when to fight Big Daddies, and just became more of a shooting gallery rather than having some exploration. Good game, but I would say it is less BioShock than BioShock 2 is.

@kmi2579

3 жыл бұрын

infinite is different, which is why it's highlighted more than bioshock 2, which expands on the first game

I like bioshock 2 more than infinite

I just started playing the original bioshock again. And I realized I never actually beat it. I just stopped after you find out who fontaine is. So now I got a whole tiny extra bit of bioshock to look forward to.

Much like you said, I watched this video because I played the bioshock collection for the first time this month and let me tell you, you’ve got a new subscriber.

Dude... everybody and their mother knows that the whole point of a silent protagonist is to make it easier for the player to insert themselves in the story. I'm proud of you for reaching this conclusion all by yourself, but my dude, nobody "missed" it, and it isn't "secretly hidden". Everybody got it almost instinctively. Nobody had to have their nose pointed to it. Nobody's making videos about this because it's too damn obvious. Congratulations, you clickbaited yourself. And while we're at it, that's the whole point of TWISTS as well: the good twists are the ones where the shock that we as the audience feel is exactly the same shock that the character feels. It doesn't even have to be first-person for it to work so well: if your mind was blown that Edward Norton was Tyler Durden the whole time, then guess what? Edward Norton is JUST as mind-blown. Have you ever played Spec Ops: The Line?