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Best Value Budget Full Suspension Trail Bikes | 2021 MTB Buyers Guide

Hello everyone, and welcome to the 2021 MTB Buyers Guide for the best value budget full suspension trail bikes! In this video, I go over my top 5 (plus worthy mentions) trail bikes from $1500-2500!
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Timestamps -
00:00 Intro
00:46 What I Look for In a Budget Trail Bike
03:10 Budget
04:23 Polygon Siskiu D7
06:34 Vitus Mythique VR
09:08 Canyon Neuron AL 6
11:15 Marin Rift Zone 2
13:21 Norco Fluid FS3
15:25 5 Worthy Mentions
18:20 Conclusion
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2021 Budget Hardtail Buyers Guide -
• Best Value Budget Hard...
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2021 Trail Hardtail Buyers Guide -
• Best Value Trail Hardt...
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Polygon Siskiu D7 Review -
• 2020 Polygon Siskiu D7...
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Norco Fluid Review -
• 2019 Norco Fluid FS1 |...
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Bikes Online Affiliate Link (USA) -
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Bikes Online Affiliate Link (AUS) -
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Info On The Top 5 Bikes -
Polygon Siskiu D7
www.polygonbik...
Bikes Online Affiliate Link (USA) -
bikesonline-us...
Bikes Online Affiliate Link (AUS) -
bikesonline-au...
Vitus Mythique VR
vitusbikes.com...
bit.ly/CRCttmt... (USA and Canada Affiliate Link)
Canyon Neuron AL6
www.canyon.com...
Marin Rift Zone 2
www.marinbikes...
Bikes Online Affiliate Link (USA) -
bikesonline-us...
Bikes Online Affiliate Link (AUS) -
bikesonline-au...
Norco Fluid FS3
www.norco.com/...
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Info On The Worthy Mentions -
Calibre Bossnut
calibrebicycles...
Merida One-Twenty 600
www.merida-bik...
Fezzari Abajo Peak
www.fezzari.co...
Giant Trance 3 29
www.giant-bicy...
Specialized Stumpjumper Alloy
www.specialize...
Rose Ground Control
www.rosebikes....
Cube Stereo 120
www.cube.eu/en...
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  • @trailtalkmtb6603
    @trailtalkmtb66033 жыл бұрын

    Other 2021 Buyers Guides! Budget Hardtails Under $750 kzread.info/dash/bejne/lZuFybOndceeZ6w.html Trail Hardtail Under $1500 kzread.info/dash/bejne/gWx4pq6RedbRf9o.html

  • @kylerwallace7978

    @kylerwallace7978

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi I'm between a siksiu d7 and t7 The t7 has better specs but is it worth the extra money

  • @V.Philly

    @V.Philly

    3 жыл бұрын

    Can you do a video on trail bikes for $3,000 -$4,000 USD please

  • @barzaka12

    @barzaka12

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot, dude! I was just browsing for a second hand bike for around 1500€,but decided to splurge a bit and get a brand new canyon neuron 6

  • @olliebtw9433
    @olliebtw94333 жыл бұрын

    M8 I think we can all agree that u genuinely make the best buyer guides on yt! And I’m not even joking!

  • @lennyknott2734

    @lennyknott2734

    3 жыл бұрын

    Every vid he makes I watch it like 15 times lol

  • @trailtalkmtb6603

    @trailtalkmtb6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks guys!

  • @RNG-lr2cy

    @RNG-lr2cy

    3 жыл бұрын

    My dad bought a yt and it took soo ling to come!! 😡😡😡

  • @olliebtw9433

    @olliebtw9433

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RNG-lr2cy wat?

  • @calebsmith113

    @calebsmith113

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RNG-lr2cy he didn’t mention a single yt bike in this list???

  • @grudzien9784
    @grudzien97843 жыл бұрын

    Great video brother , I think the Polygon is an amazing value for money :) I was already looking at it but now I like it even more

  • @peterpemrich6962
    @peterpemrich69623 жыл бұрын

    I ended up getting a trek marlin 6 but I always find myself absolutely drooling over dual suspension bikes, they just look so damn good. Before my marlin believe it or not I had a Genesis V2100 Ground force (yes, the Walmart bike) but I bought it in 2011. And that was before they cheaped out on it and made the wheels thinner and most likely other things. Anyway I made it last till 2015-2016 believe it or not. What made it go was the derailleur caught the back wheel flying down a hill, completely destroying the derailleur mount. I had upgraded the bike multiple times after getting hit by a car witch messed up the drivetrain and front wheel. But now I'm not as athletic and agile making the marlin feel sluggish yet more capable at the same time! That v2100 had extreme sentimental value to me and makes me miss my dual suspension, good or bad.

  • @mabonlalor8014

    @mabonlalor8014

    2 жыл бұрын

    I got a trek marlin 6 and it’s so batterd but I’m looking for a full sus

  • @willbennett8799

    @willbennett8799

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oof coulda had a polygon Xtrada 7 for less and gotten a better bike for your dough

  • @justrelakbru1908
    @justrelakbru19083 жыл бұрын

    Hey dude! You’re the reason why i bought my very first full sus bike :merida 120 600. Thank you for the awesome review. I do agree with your comments on the bike. 👌

  • @trailtalkmtb6603

    @trailtalkmtb6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad I could help! Stoked to hear you are enjoying it!

  • @FraGGile22
    @FraGGile223 жыл бұрын

    Man I went to check out the d5/d7 for my self to my local shop since they sell polygon. Came out of shop with t7 2021 for myself and then t7 (their test bike) 2020 30 year celebration version for my wife. Expensive trip to a shop.

  • @cas_waterpas8629
    @cas_waterpas86293 жыл бұрын

    You should add the canyon spectral to the all mountain buyers guide if you haven’t already

  • @HDLogiX
    @HDLogiX3 жыл бұрын

    I've got a Rockrider AM500S Limited Edition size Medium for 1400€ all new equiped with: - Rockshox Pike Select 150mm fork - Rockshox monarch shock 140mm - Sram X01 rear derailleur 12v - Sram Level T pots with 180mm front, 160mm rear - 66° HA - 74° STA - 610mm Top Tube - 435lm Reach

  • @EricSteinborn
    @EricSteinborn2 жыл бұрын

    I just watched the video and purchased a 2022 Polygon Siskiu D6. It had the same features as the D7, but I didnt need the extra quality fork or shock. Thanks for the help!

  • @c__d0ao990
    @c__d0ao9903 жыл бұрын

    Wish I had found your channel before I purchased my Siskiu D7 - Only so you could get the kickback though sounds like I chose a good option (its being delivered today!) I think there will be more bicycleonline purchases coming though so will be sure to use your affiliate code, well done on the channel/contents/vids, keep it up :)

  • @theDayOfAccount
    @theDayOfAccount3 жыл бұрын

    I watched a lot of your videos to help me select my first proper mountain bike. Your information is really useful, to the point. Should have much more subs! Excellent content Phil.

  • @trailtalkmtb6603

    @trailtalkmtb6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks mate! Glad I could help!

  • @themorganator
    @themorganator3 жыл бұрын

    excellent review, thank you. Think I'm going to go Vitus but the Bossnut is very compelling!

  • @dariusallison5333

    @dariusallison5333

    3 жыл бұрын

    Any luck on finding it for sale?

  • @zatthom
    @zatthom Жыл бұрын

    The same video about 2022 models will be very appreciated

  • @vatapitta
    @vatapitta3 жыл бұрын

    Just received my 2021 D7 today. Looking forward to putting it together and going for a ride! Thanks for the great reviews. You definitely helped guide my decision.

  • @edwardkenway8143

    @edwardkenway8143

    3 жыл бұрын

    How do you like it?

  • @jasonmurphy733
    @jasonmurphy7333 жыл бұрын

    I wasnt happy that when my T8 arrived (around 5/01/21) the cool lil cardboard box inside that had all the paperwork and tools etc had been opened and pretty much dumped out inside the big box and the big box had a hole in the bottom from shipping so who knows what was missing. More importantly- they had Vee tire co tires on the bike instead of the Schwalbes that they listed. - Those are worth about half as much by the way. -also a paint chip by the emblem on the headtube. So I emailed them -only about the tires- asking them to take the vee's back and send me the Schwalbes... The bikes online guys try to distance themselves from polygon like it was a different company and took zero responsibility for the manufacturer swap. (polygon is the only bike online bikes sells) They said there was a shortage (obviously you can buy as many Schwalbes as you want on Amazon). They said I should be glad i didnt have to wait longer for the right tires ( I did wait about 4-5 months). Im ok with taking a chance to save money adjusting the bike myself etc, Im not ok with this company not sending me what they advertised and what I paid for.

  • @danielcox9783
    @danielcox97833 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the round- up on these bikes. Awesome to see such a clear, concise outline for those newer riders who are overwhelmed by,or unaware of how many choices they have. One small thing- the Fezzari bike is pronounced “Ah-BAH-ho”. 😉. It’s a weird word for those not familiar with the Spanish influence of the Western US.,

  • @prohto74
    @prohto743 жыл бұрын

    Took the leap on the D7, I hope the affiliate link worked. Great review, I have been watching all your videos, really enjoying them.

  • @JoseTorres-rl3rz

    @JoseTorres-rl3rz

    3 жыл бұрын

    How do you like your polygon?

  • @Nj-qx6lm
    @Nj-qx6lm3 жыл бұрын

    Went to sub and realised you only have 15k subs this content is on par with people who have hundreds of thousands of subs keep it up 👍👀

  • @andrewdecker627
    @andrewdecker6273 жыл бұрын

    Can’t wait for your next brand value tier list video! I have some I’m curious to know about if it helps! -Bold, Cotic, Deviate, Ellsworth, Esker, DMR, ghost, haro, Kross, Ktm, Niner, Nicolai, NS, Orange, Pole, Pyga, Reeb, Ridley, RSD, Salsa, Spot, Unno, Voodoo, Airdrop, Dartmoor, BH,

  • @trailtalkmtb6603

    @trailtalkmtb6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    That is pretty much exactly what I had for the next one :)

  • @andrewdecker627

    @andrewdecker627

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@trailtalkmtb6603 whoo-hoo! I have some more if you run out! 😂

  • @cob0001
    @cob00013 жыл бұрын

    Nice vid, I just got the 2021 Siskiu D7 and have not been disappointed. Do agree with the breaks maybe needing upgraded in the future.

  • @trailtalkmtb6603

    @trailtalkmtb6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you are enjoying it! Such a great bike for the $$$

  • @abshassan
    @abshassan3 жыл бұрын

    Hey mate, I'm stuck between the Polygon D7 and Norco FS3, which would u go for. The reason I'm leaning towards Norco is the fact that I can go into a shop and have a look at it, as the D7 is online only.. However, I feel like the D7 has better parts. I am a complete newbie to the sport too.

  • @chadrector4168
    @chadrector41683 жыл бұрын

    I'm right above this budget on the next tier! Waiting patiently c'mon Phil! Lol great video friend!

  • @trailtalkmtb6603

    @trailtalkmtb6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    Working on it! haha. Thanks mate, I'll get grinding on that video

  • @Gabo112310

    @Gabo112310

    3 жыл бұрын

    oh my goood! Nobody cares...

  • @lachlanearnshaw5869
    @lachlanearnshaw58693 жыл бұрын

    This channel is a life saver and definitely deserves more subs. I’m looking at getting the Norco fs3 for my first dual suspension bike. Is their anything that I should know before I get it? Awesome video too

  • @trailtalkmtb6603

    @trailtalkmtb6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks mate! Really appreciate it! I'd check out my review from 2 years back. Still the same frame. Keep and eye on all the bolts and check they are tight and mess around a bit with the rear shock to find a decent tune for you

  • @lachlanearnshaw5869

    @lachlanearnshaw5869

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@trailtalkmtb6603 thanks mate I checked out the vid and I’m getting the bike sometime over the next few weeks thanks heaps👍🏾

  • @andrewsobey2873
    @andrewsobey28733 жыл бұрын

    Just bought a Norco FS3 - looking forward to it!

  • @sammilburn445
    @sammilburn4453 жыл бұрын

    For £1500 there is the Calirbe triple B which is a better spec than all of those, with a higher end rockshox Sektor (still turnkey but with a debonair spring), a sram NX eagle (so kinda similar to the deore but a bit better), and more powerful Sram Guide RE brakes, as well as a few other nice things, for less than a lot of those bikes. Ive just picked up the Sentry and know a few people with triple Bs and Bossnuts and everyone has had a great experience on their Calibre's and I love my sentry, would happily recommend them to anyone with this price range as their budget

  • @longle3412
    @longle34123 жыл бұрын

    Love your vids. Best MTB content on KZread bro keep it going!

  • @trailtalkmtb6603

    @trailtalkmtb6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks mate! Really appreciate it

  • @zelphermm
    @zelphermm3 жыл бұрын

    I bought the cube 120 2021 for the price range of 1700 euros the parts it has are amazing only bike in that price range I could find with a dropper post.

  • @undergrowngeraffe

    @undergrowngeraffe

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have the 2017 frame custom built with great parts, and I still find it very sketchy to ride on technical descents. (well, I use it as AM bike, so that's part of the reason, but 120 rear travel just can't cut it on my local trails)

  • @zelphermm

    @zelphermm

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@undergrowngeraffe I would say for entry level bike it's great. I have used it on pump tracks and dirt jumps and bike parks up to red trails as I am not a black level rider yet. I have cased alot of shit and frame has held up.

  • @andrewsobey2873

    @andrewsobey2873

    3 жыл бұрын

    How are you enjoying the cube? I’m about to choose between the cube stereo 120 and the norco fluid fs3.

  • @zelphermm

    @zelphermm

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@andrewsobey2873 It's great if you ride just parks if you wanna ride Enduro for real I would get more travel. You would have to put 27 on the back to get more travel on the cube.

  • @andrewsobey2873

    @andrewsobey2873

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha, I’m not entering any competitions any time soon. Sounds like the cube will meet my needs for weekend rides at Mt Stromlo

  • @pete3861
    @pete3861 Жыл бұрын

    As a beginner looking to step up to a softtail this was great advice... thanks man :)

  • @timothyandersen1533
    @timothyandersen15332 жыл бұрын

    Love your insight. You do a great job. I feel like you cover every bike I’m interested in. Can you please do an update with all these crazy price increases

  • @ThePalominasPiper
    @ThePalominasPiper3 жыл бұрын

    This video and your review of the 2020 Polygon D7 helped me move from my first bike (Specialized Rockhopper HT) to my first full sus. Pre-ordered my 2021 D7 dropper post edition today. I’m really looking forward to this transition for a very reasonable price. (Black Friday sale price of $1600 with tax and free shipping. Thanks for the great videos. Subscribed!

  • @trailtalkmtb6603

    @trailtalkmtb6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks mate! Enjoy the new bike! Let me know how it goes!

  • @ThePalominasPiper

    @ThePalominasPiper

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@trailtalkmtb6603 Will do!

  • @nolixss694

    @nolixss694

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ThePalominasPiper what do you think of it?

  • @ThePalominasPiper

    @ThePalominasPiper

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nolixss694 I have nearly 2,000 miles on this bike now and really enjoy it for my level of riding and my trails. I don’t have huge drops or jumps but plenty of big, chunky stuff in the Arizona desert. I did blow up the rear hub at about 1,000 miles and upgraded to a Nukeproof Horizon V2 wheel. I just upgraded to a full SRAM GX drivetrain too, just to make life simpler on me maintaining 6 MTB’s with the same DT. The Shimano Deore 11 speed was ok, but I just prefer SRAM. Again, I have no regrets with this purchase and after each ride I look forward to getting back on this bike the next time.

  • @talenhorton-tucker2153
    @talenhorton-tucker21533 жыл бұрын

    just got my canyon neuron 6 and I'm loving it

  • @jlsszr8327

    @jlsszr8327

    3 жыл бұрын

    How much better is it as opposed to the Neuron 5?

  • @talenhorton-tucker2153

    @talenhorton-tucker2153

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jlsszr8327 similar, just updated for 2020

  • @jlsszr8327

    @jlsszr8327

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@talenhorton-tucker2153 Thanks. My choices are down to Neuron 5, 6, or 7 for my first full suspension.

  • @peetu444

    @peetu444

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jlsszr8327 I hope you know that neuron is more of an XC bike than a trail bike, if you go for over an 60cm jump and the frame breaks, they don't cover it. Canyons real trail bike full suspension is spectral, 2019 trail bike of the year on it's pricerange. *If you climb a lot and don't go down full send, this should be better than spectral tho.

  • @jlsszr8327

    @jlsszr8327

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@peetu444 Thanks I really appreciate your help on this one. I am looking for an occasional jump ready trail bike and will look into the Spectral line.

  • @bikeinfrastructure
    @bikeinfrastructure2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this! The Polygon is grabbing my attention at the moment!

  • @DirtyPandaMTB
    @DirtyPandaMTB3 жыл бұрын

    Ordered a stumpy alloy! Waiting for it hahaha. Nice video man 👍

  • @trailtalkmtb6603

    @trailtalkmtb6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good choice!

  • @DirtyPandaMTB

    @DirtyPandaMTB

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@trailtalkmtb6603 any advice on how to let the missus know without getting killed?

  • @trailtalkmtb6603

    @trailtalkmtb6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DirtyPandaMTB Sell something and get payment in cash and gradually pretend you are spending it but meanwhile you are just paying off the bike ;)

  • @DirtyPandaMTB

    @DirtyPandaMTB

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@trailtalkmtb6603 classic hahaha I'll start with my kidneys

  • @Prodiod

    @Prodiod

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DirtyPandaMTB the secret is to also buy her a bike. Then you’ll always have a riding buddy you can rely on if you get hurt deep in the forest.

  • @gpearce11
    @gpearce113 жыл бұрын

    A great list, and great video, as always. I think this is probably the sweet spot in the market when looking to upgrading from a cheaper hardtail to full suspension. These newer bikes are including dropper posts, 1x12 dricetrains and great geo (particularly if you're spending $2.4-3K) leaving literally nothing significant lacking compared to bikes costing $1-2K more, and can be easily upgraded over time to be competitive with bikes costing more than double. I must admit, I'm surprised the Polygon Siskiu T7 didn't make the list. It compares very well against the Marin Rift Zone 2, with basically identical spec and geometry, while also featuring a lockout rear shock, 10-15mm extra travel (depending on wheel/frame size), and is AU$100 cheaper (not to mention you seem to love the T8, which is basically just a T7 with Fox suspension). Are you perhaps planning to put the T8 in a later list, or do you simply feel the D7 is close enough to the T7 that's its better to save the money?

  • @paytonvercoe430

    @paytonvercoe430

    3 жыл бұрын

    The T7/8 are more towards the all mountain category.

  • @gpearce11

    @gpearce11

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@paytonvercoe430 I feel that could be said of the 27.5 models (sizes S/M) with 140/150mm travel, but the 29in models (M-XL), with 135/140mm travel, can definitely be considered trail bikes.

  • @paytonvercoe430

    @paytonvercoe430

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@gpearce11 absolutely fair and if I was buying a polygon I would probably go towards the T8, But I’m only speculating he has put the T7/8 in the all mountain category, for a multitude of reasons including sharing the love among manufacturers and suppliers across a range of videos

  • @gpearce11

    @gpearce11

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@paytonvercoe430 That's a fair point, and the T8 is amazing value for money; definitely worth the extra over the T7 if within budget. I specified the T7 in this instance because it was within the allocated budget.

  • @trailtalkmtb6603

    @trailtalkmtb6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks mate! The Siskiu T will be in the next buyers guide. When it comes to the 27.5 vs 29, the 29er wheels add around 10mm of travel in terms of how they feel rolling over things on the trail. I'd say the 29 is more capable. The D7 is definitely more XC/Trail compared to the T which is pushing more Trail/All mountain. You notice how composed the T is at speed and less nervous when it gets rough. This video was for more 115-130 mm bikes

  • @A.D.D.O.C.D.T
    @A.D.D.O.C.D.T3 жыл бұрын

    Watching on my new 12 Pro Max ,your head is massive now man haaa. Great video once again ,going strong mate. 👑🔥🤙

  • @trailtalkmtb6603

    @trailtalkmtb6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's already big enough hahahha. Cheers mate!

  • @A.D.D.O.C.D.T

    @A.D.D.O.C.D.T

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@trailtalkmtb6603 Know the feeling. 😂💪🔥👍

  • @johnbeavers963
    @johnbeavers9633 жыл бұрын

    Love the links to get to the info you need fast in the video! Worth a sub and like for sure.

  • @Bazerca
    @Bazerca3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome buyers guide mate, hanging out for the Rift zone to drop in December... can't wait!

  • @Bazerca

    @Bazerca

    3 жыл бұрын

    I couldn't wait till the rift zone drops Phil as the dates keep changing, I have now ordered the D7 after your advice on this channel...thanks heaps!!

  • @user-ln8ko7df7p

    @user-ln8ko7df7p

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Bazerca 😂 the turned tables

  • @tripleeyeemoji2685
    @tripleeyeemoji26853 жыл бұрын

    Just bought a Norco FS3 so excited to start riding it

  • @edstrazz2758
    @edstrazz27586 ай бұрын

    Giant Trance 3 is on sale in the US. Man i want to buy it since i currently ride a Giant Talon from 2015.

  • @sonofawil
    @sonofawil2 жыл бұрын

    I got that Norco and I can confirm the FS2 and 1 are better value. So many upgrades.

  • @paulvictor9368
    @paulvictor93683 жыл бұрын

    😁😁😁. Excellent! Thanks! This is super helpful!

  • @trailtalkmtb6603

    @trailtalkmtb6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome!

  • @916timmmay
    @916timmmay3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video...I've been looking into a budget full suspension and this helps a ton!

  • @TheRadar2819
    @TheRadar28193 жыл бұрын

    Pretty awesome video. The Polygon and Fezzari are on the top of my list for upgrade for my wife

  • @mortybana
    @mortybana3 жыл бұрын

    Very informative and detailed reviews, thanks a lot 🤙🏾

  • @trailtalkmtb6603

    @trailtalkmtb6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks mate!

  • @Skippy-id9yt
    @Skippy-id9yt2 жыл бұрын

    Hi mate the Mongoose Salvo for trail riding and the mongoose Bootr for downhill are the best value ,they don't get reviews because people mistake then for the Walmart crap , I own both and the salvo just needs forks upgraded and see me sealed bearings etc and it's on par with much more expensive MTB ✌️

  • @henryd5513
    @henryd55133 жыл бұрын

    Great video, @Trail Talk MTB Your opinion(s) about the new Radon Skeen Trail 8.0 2021? It seems to be awesome but can't find any reviews. So, a video or at least some comments would be super helpful!

  • @eliotcrowe7884
    @eliotcrowe78843 жыл бұрын

    Nice vid - a lot of good options in this price range, but it can be confusing trying to compare specs, especially when I have only ever ridden one mountain bike!

  • @itsyoboytommycox7809
    @itsyoboytommycox78092 жыл бұрын

    Best MTB vid ever

  • @itsyoboytommycox7809

    @itsyoboytommycox7809

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nice comment

  • @TC_Prof
    @TC_Prof Жыл бұрын

    D7 in the radar ❤❤❤

  • @ryansinke7354
    @ryansinke73543 жыл бұрын

    Love this video! Keep up the good work. I'm interested in the 2021 norco fluid 2 fs. Any recommendations on needed upgrades?

  • @flowhivemember3905
    @flowhivemember39053 жыл бұрын

    wich one out of all of these do you tink is the best I am thinking of getting the polygon

  • @CoupTT
    @CoupTT3 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video detailed everything! Subscribed

  • @clarkoskentos2619
    @clarkoskentos26193 жыл бұрын

    Great video 👍👍 I have just got a cube anolog to get back into biking. Is the bike any good, I got a 17" frame with the 29 wheels.

  • @samanlamsal6031

    @samanlamsal6031

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have cube attention 29er. Looking to buy d7

  • @IamBATMAN2024
    @IamBATMAN2024 Жыл бұрын

    I just got a Kona kitsune 2013 (the only year they made them) for £440 😅 it’s got tons of upgrades too! Front & back rock shox BARGAIN

  • @georgeavakyan5044
    @georgeavakyan50443 жыл бұрын

    I’m moving on to entry MTB AND WOULD LIKE YO KNOW WHICH OF the 3 is the best bang for the buck: Vitus Mythique vrx 29; polygon SisqiuT7

  • @georgeavakyan5044

    @georgeavakyan5044

    3 жыл бұрын

    Considering the 3 bikes below, which is the better buy value wise: mythiquie VRX;; polygon Sisqiu t7 or D7...

  • @harrisonmixer9583
    @harrisonmixer95833 жыл бұрын

    Actually puts time stamps. Well done.

  • @longandwinding
    @longandwinding3 жыл бұрын

    So much great info here Phil. Great stuff 👍

  • @trailtalkmtb6603

    @trailtalkmtb6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks mate!

  • @dannyzuehlsdorf3697
    @dannyzuehlsdorf36973 жыл бұрын

    Now the large Canyon Neuron 6 delivered to California about $2300 with tax etc

  • @rafaelleyva2669
    @rafaelleyva26693 жыл бұрын

    Question, so is the Vitus Mythique VR 29 the exact same frame as the VRS and VRX. Asking cause I have 150mm Marzocchi fork and a 140 deluxe rear suspension laying around collecting dust I can just throw on their. All the numbers seem the same.

  • @Hawlkeye-e9p
    @Hawlkeye-e9p3 жыл бұрын

    Those inverted shocks, need rebuilding more often. All the oil settles at the bottom instead of pooling at shaft seal. Flip it or lose it.

  • @dantribby199
    @dantribby1993 жыл бұрын

    I wonder will the ripmo af make the next category up? I just got one and I love it

  • @trailtalkmtb6603

    @trailtalkmtb6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    Definitely in my enduro bike buyers guide

  • @Pauwlus
    @Pauwlus3 жыл бұрын

    Cube stereo 120 hardly ever gets mentioned while it’s such good value for money. Can’t wait to hop on mine and start hitting the trails.

  • @trailtalkmtb6603

    @trailtalkmtb6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    Its a great bike! That's why I put it in my worthy mentions :) You will love it!

  • @willt6167
    @willt61673 жыл бұрын

    most underrated youtuber

  • @juliangreenwood1032
    @juliangreenwood10323 жыл бұрын

    15k dude congrats

  • @trailtalkmtb6603

    @trailtalkmtb6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    🎉 Thanks mate!

  • @Jon-nz3dm
    @Jon-nz3dm3 жыл бұрын

    Still on a hardtail...Nukeproof Scout 2019 base model. But it's a great hardtail and it will hold me over until I can afford a Giant Trance 29 3. That bike really is great for $2250 USD. Or if I can just be smart with my money, maybe even step up to another Nukeproof in the Reactor Comp. The reactor is the dream trail bike for me.

  • @LiquidAntler
    @LiquidAntler3 жыл бұрын

    Loving your buyers guides mate!

  • @trailtalkmtb6603

    @trailtalkmtb6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers mate!

  • @evrnire8474
    @evrnire84743 жыл бұрын

    Hi bro I love these budget guides and can’t wait for the AM one because I am looking to get one.. Btw I looked on the Giant AU website and couldn’t find the Trance 29 3 from the worthy mentions, only a 29 2 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @Alpinwolf5
    @Alpinwolf53 жыл бұрын

    Sorry mate, but I endo'd right over the way you pronounced "Marin". Put the stress on the second syllable, my dude: mə-RIN. (It's the name of the county to the north of San Francisco where mountain biking was born, and one of the oldest brands.) Otherwise, fantastic info and presentation! 👍

  • @Henduro
    @Henduro3 жыл бұрын

    Nice video Phil✨. Could you please suggest the best one in Canada market under the same category?. Are these available in Canada Market?

  • @trailtalkmtb6603

    @trailtalkmtb6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    Canada would be the Norco. But I would be tempted by the Specialized for the bigger descents in Canada.

  • @kimkelvin
    @kimkelvin3 жыл бұрын

    hello im from AUS and im trying to get a Vitus VRS but its out of stock on wiggle, is there anywhere else i can buy with same price? cheers! good vid as always!

  • @retr0rider458

    @retr0rider458

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don’t think so. I know you can get most of the polygon bikes.

  • @kimkelvin

    @kimkelvin

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@retr0rider458 i manage to snag sa 2020 stumpjumper st 27.5 for 2grand i think i got it on a reasonable price loving it . 2 months now :)

  • @retr0rider458

    @retr0rider458

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kimkelvin cool! I’m thinking of the polygon siskui d6 or d7.

  • @mikepatey55
    @mikepatey552 жыл бұрын

    It’s crazy I remember when I was a kid, the kids with an 800 dollar bike were the rich kids

  • @kenester621
    @kenester6212 жыл бұрын

    My Kona Process was stolen recently, so now I’m having to look into buying a new bike. I’m not wanting to spend as much but I still want a good bike so I’m looking towards budget bikes. I’m really leaning towards a giant trance or stump jumper now

  • @patrickdowling1555
    @patrickdowling15553 жыл бұрын

    Phil, great vid! Curious why you had the Polygon Siskiu D on the list instead of the Siskiu T? Do you think the T7 spec is better for trail riding, for the modest price premium? And these Polygons appear to be the most likely to be available these days. Thanks!

  • @trailtalkmtb6603

    @trailtalkmtb6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks mate! The T is in my all moubtain buyers guide :)

  • @Nick305live
    @Nick305live3 жыл бұрын

    Get the T7 over the D7. For $100 extra its a substantial upgrade, no point of buying a D7

  • @gpearce11

    @gpearce11

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree the T7 is probably the better overall bike (although its AU$300 more; not enough to be relevant), unless of course you're specifically interested in a short-travel trail/"Down-country" bike, in which case you'd be better suited with the D7. Other than the 1x12 on the T7 (1x11 on the D7), and smaller brakes, the specifications are identical between the two. That said, the T7 could have probably replaced the Marin Rift Zone 2 on this list, especially as the Marin was recommended for descending. For $100 less you get 10/15mm more travel (15/20mm on 27.5), very similar geo, and a rear shock with lockout (also a longer 170mm dropper with the size L).

  • @trailtalkmtb6603

    @trailtalkmtb6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think the D7 serve a purpose. The T is more of a trail/all mountain bike. The D is a bit more efficient and shorter so works better on more XC style trails. More travel doesnt equal a better bike. The T will be on my all mountain buyers guide.

  • @prohto74

    @prohto74

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@trailtalkmtb6603 which would be the definitive sell point to choose one over the other? For example, I like to ride multiple terrain, it doesn't matter how difficult they are, going up is as fun as going down for me, jumping around is not my thing, but I don't mind having a few drops during my rides.

  • @adrianmcleod2983
    @adrianmcleod29833 жыл бұрын

    Good job mate, very helpful 🤟🤟

  • @jeffinajar6757
    @jeffinajar67573 жыл бұрын

    Why does nobody talk about the polygon t7?

  • @trailtalkmtb6603

    @trailtalkmtb6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    I talk about the Siskiu T in my all mountain guide :)

  • @13DJR31
    @13DJR313 жыл бұрын

    Great vid!!!! I bought the Specialized Alloy because Giant didn't have any bikes or anyone else. @Trail Talk MTB what upgrades would you do to the Bike?

  • @AntaresSQ01
    @AntaresSQ012 жыл бұрын

    Instead of the Siskiu D7 I recommend the Boardman MTR 8.8, pretty much identical components with some parts being better but actual trail/enduro travel (145 rear 150 front) not like the D7 which uses the XC tier components.

  • @rlane4osu199
    @rlane4osu1993 жыл бұрын

    I’m torn between the FS2, Poly D7, and Vitus Mythique. Any best picks of those three? Also at 5’8” I’m thinking a large might be a bit long. Would I suit a medium Fluid better?

  • @trailtalkmtb6603

    @trailtalkmtb6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cant go wrong with any of them. At this point in time I would pick what ever is in stock and you like the look of

  • @alucard2011
    @alucard20113 жыл бұрын

    The Rose Root Miller 1 is a better choice, than the Ground Control, and its also within budget. It has 29 inch wheels, a Sram NX 1x12, Shimano 4 piston brakes in the front, and a 150 mm fork

  • @trailtalkmtb6603

    @trailtalkmtb6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's more of an all mountain bike. This video was for 115-130mm bikes. I go over all the criteria in the first section of the video

  • @trailtalkmtb6603

    @trailtalkmtb6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@chefgav1 value isnt always the sum of its parts. I've ridden both bikes again recently and this is what I think from my experience. The Marin is a lot more capable and a better platform to build on.

  • @trailtalkmtb6603

    @trailtalkmtb6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@chefgav1 I didnt mention the rift zone 1? I've seen you comment on a few things mate, you seem to be getting a bit angry? I understand if you got a merida recently and you love it. It's a good bike but no need to be hostile and comment on anyone whose asking about anything other than a merida. The vast majority of bikes are made in 3 factories and they use many of the same parts. Nothing really makes a frame more special. When it comes to the bike shop debate I can go on for ages about that but I can say a lot of the mechanics at 99 arent up to scratch, there are some great ones but also a lot who have no idea. When you buy online the bikes are built by a mechanic who does this everyday then the bars, wheels and dropper post are taken off. All you need to do one you get it is install those parts (not too hard). I prefer the rift zone 2. The geometry is a better platform to build on. I'm sure the 120 will be updated next year to be a bit more modern. As it stands it's still a great bike for an all rounder.

  • @scottgoodwin9462
    @scottgoodwin94623 жыл бұрын

    Looking for first full suspension upgrading from hard tail, wondering your thoughts on Siskiu D7 vs Vander T7 given similar price (vander $100 less right now but no dropper)? And is the Siskiu T7 worth the extra cash?

  • @trailtalkmtb6603

    @trailtalkmtb6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you prefer descending and 27.5 wheels the vander might be the bike for you. Bit if you are looking for more of a trail/bike the 29er Siskiu D would be my pick

  • @leonotoole8308
    @leonotoole83083 жыл бұрын

    This deserves a subscribe 👍🏼

  • @j3n244
    @j3n2443 жыл бұрын

    great guide Phil, can you do an in-depth on the Cube Stereo 120 by any chance?

  • @norcal-ce7yk
    @norcal-ce7yk3 жыл бұрын

    What do you think about direct to consumer brands, specifically Canyon bikes? I found through my own research that Canyon and YT offer some of the best bang for your buck, especially if you purchase at the end of the MTB season (like right now) through their outlet or clearance sections. Ive seen some of their bikes such as the Canyon Neuron high end trail bike reduced by upwards of $2K.

  • @trailtalkmtb6603

    @trailtalkmtb6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think direct brand are great, they help make the market more competitive. In terms of quality its pretty much comparable. Warranty support can be hit and miss but that's the risk you take I guess. A lot of brands could learn a lot from brands like Fezzari.

  • @jcrb8894
    @jcrb88943 жыл бұрын

    Should I get a hard tail or FS for my first bike? I rode a hard tail for a year about a decade ago before it got stolen and that ended my mtn biking career. Scared of getting a hard tail and getting into a lot more than anticipated and immediately wanting a FS

  • @trailtalkmtb6603

    @trailtalkmtb6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you know you are really going to get into it and are going to be doing riding beyond XC I would recommend a FS

  • @jcrb8894

    @jcrb8894

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@trailtalkmtb6603 definitely looking into the bikes you mentioned in this video. Thanks bud 👍🏻

  • @hamishhoonley5494
    @hamishhoonley54943 жыл бұрын

    Great vid man keep it up 👍

  • @christianpeters6579
    @christianpeters65793 жыл бұрын

    I'm still working on getting a Tacoma to get to the trails lol

  • @schecterc1exotic

    @schecterc1exotic

    3 жыл бұрын

    Buy a used one! I have a 2010 and it runs like a champ. Save money on the truck so you can get more bikes!

  • @ricodimaz3985
    @ricodimaz39853 жыл бұрын

    Polygon D7 2021 👍👍

  • @timjude
    @timjude3 жыл бұрын

    Great review thank you. Am in the market in this price range for a couple of MTB flowing trail style bikes for the women in my life: better half and daughters. I'd be looking at 27.5, S to M. Of your five recommendations which would you suggest I go for? Thank you again.

  • @wortexmkd
    @wortexmkd3 жыл бұрын

    Thoughts on the 2021 Scott Genius 960? Slightly above budget compared to these ones (at 3800 aud), though do you think it's good value for money?

  • @atomics6779
    @atomics67793 жыл бұрын

    The canyon has bumped up to 2k in usa

  • @Jam3s08
    @Jam3s083 жыл бұрын

    Hi Phill What’s your best MTB bike under $2000 AUD?

  • @benfairbrother2458

    @benfairbrother2458

    3 жыл бұрын

    Probably a hard tail like the Marin san Quentin, check out his hard tails buyers guide

  • @trailtalkmtb6603

    @trailtalkmtb6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    Pretty much anything in this list of my hardtail buyers guide

  • @gargefps5050
    @gargefps50502 жыл бұрын

    is it worth to buy an used bike for 1200-1400e, factory price is around 2500e? the bike was bought in 2019-2020 and it seems like a good trail bike

  • @menghinleong607
    @menghinleong6073 жыл бұрын

    Giant Stance 29 2 + dropper 1858.60usd quite a fun bike to ride with.

  • @octodadmtbmartyrichards2862
    @octodadmtbmartyrichards28623 жыл бұрын

    This is a hot category right now! 🔥 Down county 🤠

  • @trailtalkmtb6603

    @trailtalkmtb6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeeeeehaaaawwww

  • @julianra8059
    @julianra80593 жыл бұрын

    Guys what’s your opinion of the giant stance 2 2021?

  • @trailtalkmtb6603

    @trailtalkmtb6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not a huge fan of the geometry and the rear axle is a quick release, which really limits what the frame is capable of

  • @julianra8059

    @julianra8059

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@trailtalkmtb6603 yeah i recognized that and now i am looking at the marin rift zone 2 2021? Is it a better buy?

  • @esroymat
    @esroymat3 жыл бұрын

    I'm tossing up between the norco fluid fs3 and the merida 120 600... What would you guys prefer?

  • @trailtalkmtb6603

    @trailtalkmtb6603

    3 жыл бұрын

    Fluid for faster flowy trails. One twenty everything else

  • @anguscowie6043
    @anguscowie60433 жыл бұрын

    No Scott bikes in any of your reviews? Is that because they're not available to you to try or do you consider them expensive? ...I got a 2021 Genius 960 for £2.2k in UK... pretty good value for spec I think.

  • @bhargavvelagapudi
    @bhargavvelagapudi3 жыл бұрын

    what is the one bike that you suggest if budget is 2000$? I wanted to buy the Vitus Mythique VRX but thats out of stock. So what would be my other go to??

  • @fred89pj
    @fred89pj2 жыл бұрын

    I have the same bike here in South FL it’s been really fun and reliable. The sparks 2022 are not longer at that price. But yeah, hard to find a bike with these features at 2k price