I’m a pro artist been painting for 40 years and this guys telling it true. All those saying I’d recommend are recommending poorer quality paints. Talens are ok if you’re using only them but they dull and crack after a few years, they are too shiny , use Daler Rowney student range and you will see Rembrandt are extremely over priced, Rowney student range are similar to talens artist range. Winsor & Newton Gamblin and Utrecht are the go too of exhibiting artists

@deliciouscolours

6 ай бұрын

Apart from the price do you like Rembrandt? Because here in Europe they are not very expensive. How about Schmincke Norma?

@claudiocruzat8777

2 ай бұрын

​@@deliciouscoloursthey are expensive in Alaska, in Chile, in Japan and Australia. Everywhere. Some stuff is expensive anywhere.

I have a big tube of Cad Yellow Light on my studio but since experimenting with hansa yellow medium PY74, I don't see reasons to go back to cadmiums. I mean, yes, cads have more opacity out of the tube. But no one talks about the negatives of that. Hansa has such nice mixing qualities with dark colors that cadmiums just can't achieve. Cads yellows are like painting with yellow that has a little bit of white pre mixed with them. Its great if u want that. But for someone painting rich dark tones, a touch of cad yellow may cause if to go much lighter and greyer quickly then if u raise values with a hansa yellow. Also, In my experience, mixing a little bit of white with the hansa (20% white / 80% color) py74 negates all the lack of opacity, while maintaining the richness. So, idk, I certenly would present Cad as an option for begginners, but I would encorage them to at least experiment with hansa yellow since cads are not actually better in every way. I prefer hansas for my style anyway. The PY74 is a little more orange then Cad Lemon, so it will produce a little more saturaded and rich oranges, but be a touch duller on the greens. For me its totally ok because I would rarely need such vivid greens, but, if thats a problem, just keep a small tube of any phthalo in reserve, just for those instances, such as phtalo blue, phtalo green, phtalo green yellow shade, and you will be able to produce explosive acid greens hehe. My 2 cents

FYI winsor and newton's burnt sienna actually uses pr101, which is transparent red oxide. That's why it's such a lovely warm color :)

@tannersteedart

2 жыл бұрын

Good to know! Thank you!

@ahippy8972

10 ай бұрын

I still have the Burnt Sienna when they used the Sienna earth. PR 101 is the chemical found in Sienna earth after the earth was burned and the pigment extracted. The original mine has not much of this earth left but the pigment is now factory made. Burnt Sienna artist quality should always be PR 101 , unfortunately even this brilliant pigment isn’t the same as the original earth, the tube I bought in 86 goes from a red brown through a flame orange to a pale yellow when glazed. But you are correct W&N make the best. Another go to used to be raw umber again from Italian soil but again it is not easy to find and the chemical version doesn’t have the same quality but W&N make the best as they had the longest experience making Raw Umber from that mine with green grey undertones to dark earth it was excellent for portraits or for painting cliff faces. Never buy oils with more than one pigment, instead look at the pigments included and use a mix of the equivalent paints to save money on unnecessary paint. Learn colours theory , it’s why Picasso sells and your 5 years old kid does not. 5 years olds make ‘mud’ Picasso was an excellent colourist.

I LOVE that you touched on some color theory. This is such a valuable video for anyone getting into oil painting and even artist that have been using oils for a while. Awesome!

I recommend Talens Rembrandt's Permanent Madder Deep as alizarin replacement if you want a single pigment one. It's a strong tinter and almost the same hue.

@tannersteedart

2 жыл бұрын

I'll have to try that out. I live so many other pigments from Royal Telans, so I'm sure it will be an enjoyable experiment.

@ahippy8972

10 ай бұрын

Galena artist quality aren’t so great, they have a strange mix of binder and don’t mix well with other brands. Madder deep is much browner than alizarin, this is why people use madder along with madder , the pigments mix different, they even wash out different with different undertones. Gamblin is much better quality, I imported gamblin to U.K. because it’s the best . Talents are aimed at hobby artists with money to waste. Van Gogh range is not good but Rembrandt is similar to Daler Rowney student .

Thank you! This is great advice for an old lady on a tight budget who has taken up oil painting later in life. Simple is better for me. I have been frustrated with the “hues” which I bought because they are cheaper. You get what you pay for! Thanks again!

I enjoyed the video. The music, transitions and video artistic style fits the Steed team. Thanks for sharing budget tips.

@tannersteedart

2 жыл бұрын

Our pleasure! Glad you enjoyed it.

Love it. Limited palettes are the best choice for someone who is starting out, and you recommended really good colors. I’m currently using a split primary palette with some earth colors, 9 colors in total. Not a super limited palette, but the smallest number of colors that I’ve worked with so far.

@tannersteedart

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree! My palette is slowly expanding as well. It is just too fun to try out new colors.

@druidobianco9734

Жыл бұрын

Split primary 9 color palette is so versatile… white, 2 yellows, 2 reds, 2 blues, yellow ochre (or raw sienna) and burnt umber

Using the water-mixable oils I can confirm that my 37ml cadmium yellow almost lasted for 2x titianium white 200ml tubes. Same for ultramarine blue, cadmium red went a bit faster. I also like raw and burnt umber. Raw is nice for its greenish tint.

Thank you! This helps out a lot!

The best information, this is invaluable for someone who is self learning....My palette is about to get a makeover with just these colors! Thank you!

@tannersteedart

2 ай бұрын

Glad to help!

Hello man, love your videos. I've a question: Does your wooden palette have a protective coat or varnish? cause it shines. Thanks

@tannersteedart

2 жыл бұрын

Yes it does. The palette is from a company called New Wave. I have two of the, and love the finish.

CO represent! Do you go to the first Friday art walk at all? Is your studio in Denver? FUN FACT: Zinc Sulfide pw5 (not zinc oxide pw4), otherwise known as "Lithopone", is a barium sulfate/zinc sulfide co-precipitate and does not suffer from the embrittlement issues of zinc oxide pw4. It is transparent like lead white, but reads cooler like titanium. Rublev has it as its pigment name lithopone, williamsburg has it as porcelain white (though it's ground in safflower). YELLOWS: If you need even CHEAPER, and you dont mind your greens and oranges being a little dirty, go for Mars Yellow. It's a strong tinter, sometimes it is TOO strong, barely dented by a 1:1 mixture with Titanium white (in which case student grade may be an ok option), excellent lightfastness, and it drys quickly. Nickel Yellow Ted-talk: If you're intermediate with your color mixing (which I recommend for this pigment), for a bright yellow consider Nickel Yellow Titanate PY53. It's a weak tinter that tends to gray down in mixtures, which could be considered a negative, but makes for great flesh tones. If you need strong secondaries you can supplement it with a thalo turquoise and a warm red like pyrrol red/transparent red oxide. It is significantly cheaper than cad yellow (for reference: Williamsburg cad yellow is 30$, Nickel Yellow 19$). While it does have lower chroma than cad yellow, and it is more difficult to use in mixtures, it is just as bright in mass tone as cad yellow. So, if you're a glazer like me and just brushing out pure color it is ideal. It is also the most archival, most lightfast, most weatherfast, of all the bright yellows! It's in the same archival category with the Earth pigments, cobalts, etc, (aka humanity can die out and eons later alien archaeologists will find it looking the same as when it was brushed out of the tube). So, if you're a sailor prone to manic episodes and like to hold your paintings up like Simba during rainstorms, it's the ideal yellow.

Awesomeness ❤

@tannersteedart

7 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed

Love it, caught somethings I didn't know.

This was what I needed. Thx a lot.

Thank you for your tips

Really kool as video thanks from New Zealand 🇳🇿

I love this channel!

@tannersteedart

Жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

Titanium white is also so potent compared to different whites, that it also makes the tube last longer

Great video. Can you do a video on how to mix a large amount of a particular colour ,say Parisian grey, to cover a large canvas as a background in a portrait?

Hey tanner. I hope you do not mind this personal question. Do you paint full time and make a living from it as well? I’d love to get some pointers from you on how to go about doing that. Watched all you videos, very cool stuff!

Very useful. Thank you.

@tannersteedart

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Great info thank you sir.

@tannersteedart

Жыл бұрын

Great comment you're welcome sir.

Excellent video. But we need a follow up on how to use that limited palette to mix a full range of colors. Or at the very least do a plein air demo using that palette so we can see a practical application.

@tannersteedart

2 жыл бұрын

Great suggestion!

Thank u lovely video

@tannersteedart

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure. Thanks for watching.

Winsor Newton Burnt Sienna is made from PR101, iron oxide, not dirt as other other companies do (others usually use PBr7).

Excellent!! I would like to use non-toxic paints and cleanup in a school setting with sensitive people. Could you please do a similar limited pallete/economical video for non-toxic paints, perhaps including water soluble oil paints that don't need terps, etc for cleaning.

@diegoallcore

4 ай бұрын

Why? Is the same information. The pigments are what matter.

Thanks - I was just about to buy a set of the Gamblin 1980 as I'm a total beginner but maybe I'll invest in the W&N artist level instead.

@tannersteedart

Жыл бұрын

I recommend getting artist grade paints. They will last longer than student grade

Hello Tanner, good video for beginners, you should focus on how to mix colors, that is a fundamental part in which many students feel lost. talk a little about the munsell system would be a good topic for another video.

Thanks for the videos and info. Curious your thoughts on the WN titanium white (artist grade) having the dreaded PW4 zinc pigment. I rarely do anything impasto, and have other brands of whites I use, but it seems hard to tell what percentage of filler are being used unless you are making your own paint.

@tannersteedart

2 жыл бұрын

If you are working with heavy impacts you really to need be aware of the use of zinc white, but ultimately eliminating it is best. My favorite titanium white is my williamsburg, but being more expensive some may feel apprehensive about trying it. I suggest if you do not want your paint to crack, then try it out. The consistency of the paint is excellent, and it has a low yellowing rate compared to other brands..

@dimitrispapadimitriou5622

Жыл бұрын

@@tannersteedart An alternative white is the PW5 ( lithopone, or porcelain white). I think that it's better for mixing than pure Titanium ( it gives more saturated results) or semi- transparencies. It's not as white as Titanium, though. It's less bright, it reminds me of the moonlight glow, somehow..

@tannersteedart

Жыл бұрын

@@dimitrispapadimitriou5622 I'll have to look into that! Thank you for the suggestion!

@AllGrowing

Жыл бұрын

@@tannersteedart I thought I'd start with your basic palette suggestions, but now I'm not about the WN titanium white (artist grade) - is it toxic, or what?

@tannersteedart

Жыл бұрын

@Growing it's not toxic. It contains some zinc which could lead to cracking. My favorite white is Williamsburg titanium white.

I bought artist quality paints and I slap them on impasto for my loose style. I pay so much for paint D; but hey im happy doing it and im happy with the outcome. One thing as well, I bought a big tube of cadmium lemon and I almost never use it. It's way too strong. I find that yellow oche is acceptable 90% of the time as a yellow for me, because you still only need a tiny bit to mix with white for a warm sunlight, or yeah just when do you need sickly bright yellow? I used a little for some car headlights but it was such a small amount in the overall piece

@tannersteedart

10 ай бұрын

Every artist has different needs. I love Cad Lemon. I probably use it in every painting. But rarely right out of the tube. Most colors I do not use straight out of the tube. Everything is mixed to ensure a color harmony. Unless, of course, I need a saturated yellow like the local color of a flower.

@ryanoconnor7957

10 ай бұрын

@@tannersteedart ah maybe that is a difference because more often than not I am using colour straight from the tube. It is something I picked up from Richard Schmid, he had the philosophy that he wanted other artists to be able to look at his work and easily guess what pigment every colour was.

Tanner what do you think of Beksinski and Laurie Lipton...i did a few knock offs of the former, he is just so cool...

@tannersteedart

Жыл бұрын

I prefer Beksinski's asthetic. They really do capture something so awful and so deeply human. They are captivating haunting. But I don't feel fear, I feel intrigued to dive deeper.

how about a video on color temperatures, just the temperature transitions and what they mean to add a "warmer" or "cooler" color, what makes it those temps and where mostly applied. :)

@tannersteedart

2 жыл бұрын

Great idea! Stay tuned.

Most excellent I would add burnt umber and yellow ocher . 🙌

@druidobianco9734

Жыл бұрын

Mee too, and avoid burnt sienna… a cad yellow medium, cad red medium or phtalo blue would be more useful than burnt sienna

@allenvoss7977

Жыл бұрын

@@druidobianco9734 you can’t get rid of burnt sienna because you need to mix it with magenta so you can create alizarin Crimson .

@druidobianco9734

Жыл бұрын

@@allenvoss7977 but you already have alizarin crimson on the palette, there is no magenta

@allenvoss7977

Жыл бұрын

@@druidobianco9734 alizarin Crimson is a horrible color to use because it’s fugitive . It’s best to make your own out of colors that don’t fade. you can make the color by mixing burnt sienna and magenta without the problems of alizarin Crimson.

@allenvoss7977

Жыл бұрын

@@druidobianco9734 oh alizarin Crimson , such a beautiful color. What a shame it’s not light fast.

Interestingly you suggest lemon and not light. If Lemon, a cool yellow, is mixed with ultra, a warm blue, won't that make slightly grayed greens? How do you get an intense spring green?.

@tannersteedart

2 жыл бұрын

Great question. Whether you use lemon yellow or yellow light, color is always relative to the colors you place beside them. I have found that for a limited palette, lemon yellow does the job well enough when you place complimentary grays beside it to influence your perception of the temperature. Of course if you prefer yellow light, absolutely place that color on your palette. I now work with a much more extensive palette, which I will make it’s debut in an updated video. Indian yellow is one color I have added that I can use to tint my lemon yellow to a warmer mixture while still retaining its light value. Hope this helps. Thanks for your question.

@tumblingrosesstudio

7 ай бұрын

​@tannersteedart great to know, thank you for this video and these helpful and thoughtful replies!

Buy big tubes of primaries and mix your own colors. That way you can afford artist-grade paints.

@tannersteedart

6 ай бұрын

That's a great idea when you first start. The disadvantage of just using primaries is that you can not get quite as dark compared to this palette.

When searching I am seeing Permanent Alizarin Crimson - is that what you said to stay away from? I didn't see a mention of Permanent Alizarin Crimson just Permanent Alizarin. Thank you and thanks for the videos! Edit: Is French Ultramarine Blue suitable from Gamblin Artist line?

@tannersteedart

Жыл бұрын

Permanent Alizarin Crimson is one of my favorite cool reds! The paint I reccomend avoided is called Alizarin Crimson, the difference being without 'permanent'. French Ultramarine Blue is an additional color on my pallette. I use it in combination with ivory black to neutralize. Thanks so much for watching! I'm glad my channel is a good resource for you. 🤗

@rrittenhouse

Жыл бұрын

@@tannersteedart Thank YOU :) My daughter and I (she's 9) is into drawing and painting with acrylics. Were going to learn oil painting together to see where that takes us.

@Mark-nh2hs

Жыл бұрын

​​@@tannersteedart I've used Alizarin crimson and not had any real issues with it. I find it interesting how it's become very demonised. I seen other people do experiments with it showing how if fades over time but these experiments always have the painting or paint in direct sunlight for months - who in their right mind would put a painting of any medium in direct sunlight for months? Lol. But it's all down to preference and what you use it for I guess.

you need cad yelow medium , red light , cerulean and ochre added to those 5 in order to cover 90% ...especially for abstract unless you make only portrait

Where did you get that beautiful palette!

@tannersteedart

Жыл бұрын

It's a New Wave palette. I got it at my local art shop Meininger's in Denver, Colorado.

They create a hue of a pigment because the hue is the closest to original color with a better lightfast rating. Alizarin crimson is fugitive so they create alizarin crimson hue to try to replicate the original without it being fugitive.

@Mark-nh2hs

Жыл бұрын

I've used Alizarin crimson and never had the issues with it and when they do experiments with it they shove the oil painting in direct sunlight for months - come on let's be honest who would stick an oil painting in direct sunlight or any painting for that matter.

water mixable oil review

9:12 - Alizarin Crimson?

ALL SHADOWS have more of the color already there, it's complimentary color and blue, BLUES IN ALL SHADOWS IN LIFE, how GOD THING is that?!

@tannersteedart

2 жыл бұрын

🙌🙌

Crazy question but who makes your apron?

@tannersteedart

2 жыл бұрын

Not crazy at all. The brand is Vulcan Work wear.

Burnt sienna instead of burnt umber? That's interesting... Thank you!

@ahippy8972

10 ай бұрын

Burnt Sienna is much more useful than burnt umber. Raw umber if you can get Winsor and Newton version from the 80s and 90s is amazing but now it’s not the same pigment.

Is the "Zorn Palette" good for a beginner?

@tannersteedart

Жыл бұрын

Yes definitely. Especially if you are working on portraits/figures. Your landscapes will be very muted. So if you want to expand your palette, you can add ultramarine blue.

@martin4u2

Жыл бұрын

@@tannersteedart Awesome! Thanks so much for your fast reply!

Is it really better as a beginner to buy expansive tubes? I know they are more potent and have more pigment, but (as a beginner myself) i find that’s easy to waste colors exactly because i’m not an expert. Maybe i mix too much, or i mix it wrong and need a fresh start. Also tecniques like painting with palette knives use A LOT of color and i don’t think you’d get your money back not in quality nor in durability using artist grade with a spatula. I don’t feel limited by my student grade paints. In italy we have a great price/performance brand, maimeri classico, the student line of maimeri, where every color is the same price and almost none of the 77 color is a hue. I can buy a 20ml tube of cad red or cad yellow made with real cadmium pigment, not a hue, for 3.50€, that’s hard to beat. For the cost of that single cad yellow artist grade tube i made myself a palette of titanium white, cad yellow lemon, cad yellow medium, cad red medium, alizarin permanent, cyan blue, cobalt blue (hue), ultramarine blue, yellow ochre, burnt umber. The worst limitation with this range is the phtalo blue, i had to pick cyan that has phtalicyanine and cobalt blue hue because there is no phtalo blue in the range, but still a pretty respectable start for 35€. Colors are also pigment rich and creamy, of course not as pigment rich and creamy as the artist range, but not so far behind.

@loati94

Жыл бұрын

A lot of artists use winton and you can do anything with them. It's one of the better qualities in a grade student line. I would start with a basic set of those and then upgrade as you use the paint up

@tannersteedart

Жыл бұрын

I think student grade has its place. Even Daniel Sprick uses them sometimes! I wish I could rename student grade to "less pigment". Buying a higher pigment paint will last you much longer and save you money long term. Use what works best for you. Happy painting!

I love your style of making videos. No offence, but there is a bit of positive craziness! While I have a huge collection of colours, I found my very basic palette consist Primary colours and Zorn palette. I use variety of manufacturers, even student ones (like Georgian from Daler Rowney, which I love). And true, some colours are last way longer than others!

Is you Palette custom made?

@tannersteedart

9 ай бұрын

It is not. It is by New Wave

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Bro amazing video You are such a great guy Please get rid of those dread locks man It really feels unclean on such a great personality

@tannersteedart

6 ай бұрын

I'm glad you enjoyed the video! But dang, that kinda hurt. I used to use my hair as a social filter because it revealed who people were right away. I'm sure you are a very nice person, but you'd never be able to meet someone with a "good personality" if you never spoke to someone who looked like me. I've cut my hair now, so I can go undercover. See you in the wild. ;)

U said alizerin crimson but prior not to get that one

@tannersteedart

Ай бұрын

Get alizarin permanent, not alizarin crimson. The key is to get the permanent version.

Wish cad lemon was $35 in Australia 🤣

@tannersteedart

2 жыл бұрын

How much is it there?? 🤔

@matthewemanuel8748

2 жыл бұрын

@@tannersteedart I paid $70.95 a few days ago

@tannersteedart

2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewemanuel8748 that's insanity. I would definitely order elsewhere if you can!

Hues are not dyes...they are just different pigments that replicate the look of the original pigment they try to imitate due either to the cost of pigment, toxicity etc. If they were hues they wouldn't be lightfast.

@tannersteedart

Жыл бұрын

You're correct! I misspoke. Thanks for the correction.

Tanner, this is a great vlog, but you are wrong about "hue" oil paints. They are NOT dyes. ALL oil paints are pigments.

@tannersteedart

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for calling me out on this! I misspoke In the video, and you are absolutely correct. A color with hue in the name is made with a pigment that mimics the color of the original potentially toxic pigment. It is not necessarily worse rather it may not be as lightfast in SOME circumstances. Thanks again.

its all fun and games until you try to paint a sky without having the blue u need, and you have the one that cant copy it.

Way too much rambling. Almost the entire video holding an empty palette. Puts first dob of paint on at the 11:50 mark.

Tanner you are clueless about ivory black. As well as your supposed black from a mix you are even mor clueless.

@valueforvalue76

11 ай бұрын

For everyone's benefit would you care to elaborate? I certainly don't know what you're talking about, so to make such an accusation without actually giving reasons why is a pretty troll move dude. You speak as though what he said was an offense to you, but don't even bother to attempt to educate the rest or us poor uneducated? Thanks!