Thanks for watching! Below is the link to my longer demonstration of how to use the Zorn color palette in an Alla Prima oil painting! "How To Begin An Oil Painting, Alla Prima + Color Mixing Basics (ZORN Palette)" kzread.info/dash/bejne/mKCklZqwmrGxc84.html

@billjenkins5422

8 ай бұрын

Who did you editing? What programs do you use? Amazing

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

@@billjenkins5422 Thanks for the kind words, Bill. I am so glad you like the editing. It takes forever. 🙂 Anyway, I do the editing with Adobe Premier Pro. Thanks for watching.

You can do zorn with watercolors too, but you need to use Payne's Gray instead of Ivory Black. That's it. It works fine then.

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and for your suggestion. Totally, Payne's Grey is a wonderful substitution for the limitations of Ivory Black in watercolor. Have you tried the Velázquez Palette in watercolor? It is by far my favorite. Thanks again. Happy painting!

@EugeniaLoli

8 ай бұрын

​@@michaeljohnnolan I'd argue that it is the zorn palette, because it plays the role of both white and black. In oils you get somewhat "blue" and "green" by using black and white mixed with the other 2 colors (as you showed in the video). Since these two aren't traditionally used in watercolor, you can use the color that is in between black and white. And that's a not-too-blue version of Payne's gray (both Schmincke and Daniel Smith have such versions). I used it along yellow ochre and vermillion/chinese orange-type colors, I've painted a portrait with such a palette, and it works great. The Velasquez version has ultramarine in it, which is way too blue and strong color compared to the two other muted ones.

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

@@EugeniaLoli Insightful and thoughtful. Thanks for the input.

@LuisMenechino

7 ай бұрын

I used Zorn palette in watercolor. I found a problem with vermillion, which, on the contrary of oil color (an intense red), vermillion watercolor (two brands tested) tends to a dark orange tone. I started to use midlle cadmium red instead.

@EugeniaLoli

7 ай бұрын

@@tejasnair3399 Most black watercolors lean warm instead of cool. When using opaque mediums, the black is accompanied by titanium white, which provides the cool, blue-leaning black (because tit. white is actually blueish). We don't use white on watercolor, so we need that blue-ness to be part of the actual color we use. Hence, a black-leaning payne's grey.

I went my whole senior AP Art class using 3 paint tubes. I had very little confidence at the beginning of the semester, because I wanted to make portraits of my friends. In the critical art world, that seemed too basic. It didn't help hearing that from my teachers either. I believed I was going to get a 3 and hoped for a 4. I ended up getting a perfect score at the end of the year... a 5... 100%. I can thank my pallet. Building it with what I knew about color, I never realized how important it ended up being. The countless late nights I spent getting to know those colors resulted in artwork that even impresses me to this day. Nothing feels better than revisiting a portfolio that you cant believe you made. That was when I too, realized light is color

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Wonderful! Thank you for sharing. Sounds like you had a very good teacher in your AP art class. Cheers!

@thiefonthecross7552

7 ай бұрын

Sweet insight

@MontaeIsHungry

7 ай бұрын

By 3 colors, which did you use? Was it the zorn pallete he used here?

Zorns palette was actually a bit more complex. He had two varieties of Cinnabar, one yellow ocher, cobalt blue, Ivory black, and emerald green when he wanted to give his greens a boost. This, according to Birgitta Sandström who I visited with in 1992. She was curator of the Zorn museum in Mora, Sweden.

@michaeljohnnolan

7 ай бұрын

Thank you for the comment. Appreciate your insights. I had read he used a Viridian in his expanded palette, but Emerald Green is just such a beautiful color. Thanks for the info.

Jerma taught me this beforehand actually! Cant stop going on and on about this Zorn stuff!

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Awesome! It is so cool. Thanks for watching!

When I started out trying oils in high school we were only permitted extremely limited palettes, and though it's been well over 20 years now, I still remember how absolutely liberating it felt to not have to sit and ponder all the different paints. We got to use a white, a black, and one color that got switched out each week, and then slowly through the semester had up to two more colors added in, and it was an excellent way to learn temperatures and color theory without getting too much to think about all at once. The final five paints we had were titanium white, ivory black, yellow ochre, burnt sienna, and ultramarine blue, which I think most art students would recognize as an incredibly standard earth toned palette. Nowadays, I am much more a water color enthusiast, yet my standard limited palette to shove in my pencil case still consists of a yellow ochre, a burnt sienna, an ultramarine blue and a payne's gray (an excellent alternative to black when it comes to water colors). Have you tried the super limited palette of burnt sienna and payne's gray in watercolors? It's a treat! Your video makes me want to dig out my paints and give some studies a go. Thank you for boosting inspiration!

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Awesome! Thank you for sharing. Sounds like you had a very good high school art class. I have used Burnt Sienna and Payne's Grey for watercolor and for gouache. And you are so right, it is just a simple and lovely combo. Those two colors always remind me of a good Andy Wyeth winter landscape study. Beautiful! Recently, I have been caught up with the Velázquez Palette. Anyway.... GET THOSE PAINTS OUT and get to painting! :) Scratch that itch... you will be so happy that you did. If you want, send me a pic of your new paintings and we will chat it up. Thanks again for the kind words. I appreciate your time. Cheers!

Why did I use the Zorn palette? Because I lived in the 1600s when a nice economic blue was tough to find. Thanks to time travel, I now have Prussian blue. When I need it, I will use it. Seriously, my takeaway is that 4 colors can produce timeless museum masterpieces. I am using far too many colors for far too many silly reasons! Thank you for this awesome video! This was hugely entertaining and profoundly helpful!

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Absolutely! Welcome back time-traveller. :) Thank you so much for the kind words. I am so glad you enjoyed the video. I appreciate your time. Cheers!

I’ve been experimenting with limited palettes in my acrylics and it’s such a game changer. Just a huge jump in quality of paintings. But it was a couple years before I was ready to try it and now I love it. I’m primarily a landscape painter so I don’t use the Zorn palette but usually pick a yellow, blue, white and black. Or I go with a red, yellow, payees grey and white. Gives me those distinct and yet harmonious greens I’ve been struggling with. And the limited pallets really helps keep the whole painting harmonious. Just wonderful.

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Excellent! Thank you for the note. You said it very clearly and thoughtfully. Unifying the palette and all color mixings is so important to make everything seem believable and natural. The easiest way to do that is by just limiting our colors. Thanks for watching and contributing. Cheers!

Hermes saying "toodles" sent me into outer space 😭 Kickass video as always. I love how cinematic your intros are, they're always so pleasant to watch.

@michaeljohnnolan

10 ай бұрын

Awesome! Thank you! Haha. I am so glad you enjoyed the video. Slowly I am making Hermes meaner and meaner every video... "toodles" helps soften him. :) Hope you are having a nice summer.

“Super-limited in range of blues” is quite understated

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

So true... it is like a whisper of a blue. Thanks for watching!

so good! the color grid was especially helpful. i screenshot it to refer back to when i’m painting

@michaeljohnnolan

10 ай бұрын

That's great! Awesome! Thanks, Aiden. But no more secrets for you... you will be a better than me in no time. :)

@citadelofwinds1564

8 ай бұрын

Yup, the grid was so useful. I am studying it to see all the possibilities and pin down those mixtures I really need to practise - that's the cooler end.

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

@@citadelofwinds1564 Excellent! Glad it was helpful. Best of luck!

I had crafted a lengthy commentary about my newfound fascination with Zorn. Right as I was reveling in the enchanting ambiance of your latest Zorn video release, a cruel twist of fate wiped away my words. In a nutshell, your prowess is truly astonishing. The impact of your creations, coupled with the act of sharing them, elevates my existence. Gratitude pours forth, and I beseech you to continue kindling this transformative journey. Thank you immensely, and please, may your creative wellspring never cease to flow! (Lol I think chatgpt helped me to much. yet, I hope you understand the meaning :) Love from Israel Or.

@michaeljohnnolan

10 ай бұрын

ChapGPT or not... I am humbled. Truly humbled. Haha... you are the best. Thank you for taking the time. I am so overjoyed you liked the video. I was going to have chatgpt write back a response, but I had trouble deciding on the style, and then I had to look up half of the words it used. :) Oh well... Anyway, thank you so much! You have made my day. Long live ZORN!!!! Thanks again. Take care!

Excellent video Michael! You do a wonderful job explaining everything from the color, history and process. 👏👏👏

@michaeljohnnolan

10 ай бұрын

I'm so glad you liked it! Thank you so much for those amazingly kind words. You are the best! I am humbled by you.

if my oil paints looked like yours stored away i would cry myself to sleep every night!

I started experimenting with Zorn palette some time ago, in watercolour. drawing flowers. So very much interesting to work. But used paynes gray, just because I love it.

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment and your note. And you are so right, Payne's Grey is a wonderful substitution for the limitations of Ivory Black in watercolor. I would highly recommend trying the Velázquez palette in watercolor if you haven't yet. It is by far my favorite limited palette for still lifes and portraits. Thanks again. Cheers!

The fog is everywhere, and I love you everywhere. When the fog clears, everyone knows that I love you

that was an incredibly articulate, entertaining and educational video!

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Excellent! I am so glad you enjoyed the video. Thank you for leaving such an incredibly kind note. I am humbled. Appreciate you!

Wonderful video. I love the little tidbits of humor, like the paintings winking. It keeps everything fresh and continually informative! I learned quite a lot, thanks!!!!

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

So glad you enjoyed it! I appreciate your super kind note. Thanks for watching!

When I was learning painting (a very long time ago, so I don't remember if it was my watercolor tutor in high school, or my painting instructor in college), I had a teacher who told us the only colors we would need were Yeloww Ochre, Rose Madder, Burnt Sienna, White, Thalo Blue and Payne's Gray.

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Excellent! Well that was some good advice. What a lovely and wide ranging color combination. That color palette really starts to expand on the limitations of the Zorn while still being somewhat limited itself. Throw in a Lemon or Hanza Yellow and you could really mix just about anything. Thanks for watching and contributing. Happy painting!

@dan13ljks0n

8 ай бұрын

I did have lemon yellow on palette, but I couldn't remember whether I added it or not - so interesting you mentioned that color.@@michaeljohnnolan

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

@@dan13ljks0n Lemon yellow is a nice mixing greenish yellow... and it is the perfect companion for Yellow Ochre. Sounds like you had a good painting teacher. Thanks again for sharing.

I really needed this today!❤🙌🏼. Thanks for sharing.

@michaeljohnnolan

10 ай бұрын

Jen!!!! So glad you enjoyed it! Miss you!

Great production value! Thoughtful explanations.

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! I appreciate you watching. Thank you for taking the time to leave such a kind comment. Thank you! Cheers!

This video is so well produced. I love that you have footage of mixing colors and charts showing mixed swatches. I'd love to see feature videos of more palettes, or even videos of similar palettes introduced near the start of this video. Keep up the awesome work. I hope this channel grows quickly!

@michaeljohnnolan

5 ай бұрын

Awesome! I am so glad you enjoyed the video and it was able to help. I appreciate the input. I will be creating a whole color palette and theory series this year. I appreciate your kindness. Thanks for watching and commenting. Cheers!

So great! Thank you. This was fun! I like that pearl of “a bad day of painting is still a good day.” 🙏❤️

@michaeljohnnolan

7 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you so much watching and for the super sweet comment. Thank you again! Happy painting!

This was very interesting and informative. Can you a video on even a MORE limited pallet? The black-white-and-red pallet of the early illustratrations used for early magazine covers, such as Leyendecker and Norman Rockwell. The red was used so effectively to make skin tones, browns, and pops of color, that you would THINK you were looking at a full-color painting.

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

I am so glad you liked the video. Thank you for watching and leaving such a nice note. That is a great idea. Thank you again. Leyendecker is my painting hero! I will try to get that one done before the end of the year. Thanks again. Cheers!

That was an awesome video! Great explanation, excellent production value, and humor as well. Nicely done!

@michaeljohnnolan

4 ай бұрын

So glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for the kind comment. I really appreciate it. By the way, great painting yourself. I just checked out your channel. Cheers to you!

What a wonderful video,,by chance It came ,,,I'm absolutely going to try this ,,,all the best and keep on shining 🌟🙏

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Awesome! I am so glad you liked the video. Thank you so much for the super kind note. Cheers!

Video very well done ! thanks for publishing

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it! Thank you for watching and taking the time to let me know. You made my night.

Excellent!!! I can't wait to give it a try!!!

@michaeljohnnolan

6 ай бұрын

Hope you enjoy! Thanks for watching. Cheers!

Really enjoyed the extra palette history in addition to Zorn’s. Also of course LOVED the landscape sketchbook flip through!!!!

@michaeljohnnolan

2 ай бұрын

Yay, thank you! I should've "borrowed" your landscapes for the video. You are a very good painter. Glad you enjoyed the video. ZORN4EVA!

My favorite palette, thank you Michael (:

@michaeljohnnolan

10 ай бұрын

Thank you, Matt! It is my favorite palette too. You have good taste. :)

i cant express how much this video has helped me. thank you so much for this!

@michaeljohnnolan

6 ай бұрын

I'm so glad!!! Thank you for taking the time letting me know. Made my day. Thank you so much and thank you for watching. Cheers!

The best video for Zorn palette. Thank you 😊

@michaeljohnnolan

6 ай бұрын

Yay! Thank you! I am so glad you liked the video. Thanks for the comment and for watching!

totally infravalorated, great editing, great painting and great explanation!!

@michaeljohnnolan

6 ай бұрын

Much appreciated! I am so glad you liked the video. Thank you for watching and taking the time for the kind comment. Cheers!

You packed so much information in here, that I just subscribed so I can get more. Very entertaining and interesting. Thanks!

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Wonderful! I am overjoyed you liked the video. Thanks for watching, leaving a super kind note, and for the sub. Cheers!

I paint portraits with the Zorn. The skin color looks great.

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Very cool! You are so right, the Zorn palette is wonderful for painting flesh. Thanks for watching and for sharing. Take care!

Thanks. Loved that video

@michaeljohnnolan

2 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you so much for the kind comment. Cheers!

Excellent video! Thank you!

@michaeljohnnolan

7 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it! Thank you for the watch and for the kind comment. Cheers!

Good morning Michael🤓

@michaeljohnnolan

10 ай бұрын

Good morning, Robin! An early start for both of us. :)

Great explanation , thank you

@michaeljohnnolan

9 ай бұрын

Awesome, glad it was helpful! Thank you so much for watching and thank you for kind words. Cheers!

I'm using gouache and digital art, and I have two thoughts from the Zorn palette: 1. The Zorn palette made me think of condiments. Titanium white is the mayonnaise, yellow ochre is the mustard, cad red is the ketchup, and ivory black is the Worcestershire sauce. 2. Is it still considered a Zorn palette if I tweak the colors such as switching yellow ochre to a brighter yellow like lemon yellow, from cadmium red to the pyrrol red for cadmium red, and splitting the black into a dark blue like ultramarine or Prussian blue and dark brown like burnt sienna or burnt umber?

Brilliant explanation

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

I am so glad you liked the video. Thank you so much for taking the time and for the super kind comment. Cheers!

Holy cow you used my favorite artists as examples of similar pallets.

@michaeljohnnolan

3 ай бұрын

Awesome! They are the best. I completely agree. Thanks for watching!

Great stuff.

@michaeljohnnolan

6 ай бұрын

Thanks! I am so glad you liked the video. Thanks for the comment. Cheers!

Such a useful video 🙏

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching and for leaving a note! :)

I look forward to trying this palette as I can use all the help with color mixing there is. Thank you!

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

That is excellent news. It really helped me see subtle variations in colors. Remember, avoid using too much white in your mixtures. The more white you use, the more you will further desaturate the subtle colors making the combinations very muddy and chalky. Best of luck. Cheers!

@divadoll55

8 ай бұрын

@@michaeljohnnolan I so appreciate your advice especially about using too much white. That's what I've been doing. I will let you know how I do. Thank you again.

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

@@divadoll55 Not to worry, we all do that when we start with this palette. Excellent! Happy painting.

@divadoll55

8 ай бұрын

@@michaeljohnnolan Thank you!

this video is amazing- thank you for sharing

@michaeljohnnolan

6 ай бұрын

Awesome!!!! Thank you so much for your kindness. I am so glad you enjoyed the video. Cheers!

That was great..thanks!

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching and leaving a note. Cheers!

What an amazing video! Love the style :) So glad I found your channel. I’ve now subscribed so will check out your other vids!

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Thank you so much!! I am so glad you liked the video. I appreciate your sub. Hope you enjoy the other ones. Cheers!

Thanks, very interesting. I never saw ivory black as a dark blue for instance.

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Wonderful. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. It changed my awareness and with it my painting for sure when I finally saw it too. Cheers!

This is great video! really educational and entertaining. It makes me want to try using the Zorn palette in my own work

@michaeljohnnolan

7 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for leaving this super nice comment. Made my day. I am so glad you liked the video. The Zorn palette is super fun to use. I highly recommend trying it. Thank again. Cheers!

While I am a complete amateur when it comes to painting, this video was really inspiring to me! I love mixing colours in watercolour, but I typically paint landscapes, so this set of colours is WAY out of my comfort zone. I will have to pull out a few pans of watercolour today to try this out in my sketchbook! Thanks for such an inspiring video!

@michaeljohnnolan

7 ай бұрын

Wonderful! I am so glad you enjoyed the video and that it helped you with your painting journey. Sounds terrific! Good luck with the new Zorn palette paintings. Thank you for the kind comments and thanks for watching. Cheers!

FANTASTIC video!! Thank you!! The material discussed? Beyond fascinating. I also can’t believe how amazing the video editing/design is!!!! One of my favorite styles in video compilation, alone. (Especially for a video that’s not actually done by the folks publishing video tutorials on how to make films. Not a comparison. Those guys just are expected to corner the market on quality compilation). Part of that appreciation, admittedly, is how the jokes completely hit my kind of sense of humor. But mostly just because it was great. Thank you!! So so so well done. Beautiful ❤❤❤

@shrug_shrugsly

6 ай бұрын

And Skully is breathtaking ❤

@michaeljohnnolan

6 ай бұрын

Thank you so so so so much! Your comments made my day. I really appreciate all your kind words, but especially your compliments on the editing. Wow! Editing these videos takes forever. But is so much fun and always a cool learning experience though. I had never done any video editing until starting this channel. Anyway, I am so glad you find the videos entertaining and helpful. Thanks again for your kindness. Cheers to you! Skully says hi!

@shrug_shrugsly

6 ай бұрын

@@michaeljohnnolan naw man, you are tied for top place, between you and only one other video creator, in my view. And the other creator is a huge series that’s subject IS film creation. If you’re just learning to edit videos and compile stories into video?, I am so excited to see where this goes!! The only thing that threw me at first was all the winking, but it was such a constant theme that I was snort laughing by the end. It very much flavors like “Tom Goes to the Mayor.” (If you haven’t seen it, it’s the Zorn palette of cartoons. Minimal ingredients and such a flavorful dish.”) And that’s not even talking about the content! The content? It burned a lesson into my brain I can’t wait to try! Your photographer’s eye, all of it. Just makes me want to yammer far too long in a space designed for short sentences. But yeah, you need to know you’re awesome and your work is SO very much appreciated!!! (And hi Skully 👋😊) looking forward to watching the next Zorn video tonight :)

zorn pallete is the best demonstration on how we actually perceive color.... thing will look more red if you surround it with green, even if you dont use red.. that is pretty much the major thing i learn from painting landscape... everything is a shade of brown..

I just came across you on Facebook and I really like your teaching. I look forward to watching more sessions. Thank you.

@rogergreener9457

6 ай бұрын

I'm sorry it is on KZread

@michaeljohnnolan

6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much! I am overjoyed you liked the video and hope it helped. I am doing my best to crank out sessions faster. Next video should be out in a week or so. Thanks again.

excellent Video, love it, i am a new sub, so glad i ran into your channel! i been painting for years but learning new things, keeps things fresh! one can never! Stop learning!

@michaeljohnnolan

7 ай бұрын

Awesome, thank you! I appreciate you watching, subscribing, and for the great note. Well said! There is always something new to learn and create. Cheers!

Thinking it was a witty analysis of John Zorn compositional techniques...

That was informative AND fun.

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Excellent! I am so glad. Thank you for watching and taking the time to leave such a kind note.

I've benn working with encaustics and oils past couple years and theres nothing quite like mixing your own colors form pigments. This is the best way to get those amazing colors, what might seem like a single color to the naked eye is never quite completely mixed together on the macro level and creates amazing colors.

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Absolutely! It creates so much texture and depth. Happy painting!

Just a side note: Oil painting materials, especially thinners, are highly flammable.. lol Great video! Thanks

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Haha! You are absolutely right! Skully takes fire safety very seriously... I promise. Thanks for watching. Cheers!

Thank you for this video: I now see "colors" under a different "light" ; e.g. .: getting the green out of the yellow ochre and ivory black mix, or better yet the purple out of the vermilion/ivory black. Good stuff. /edit: also, amzaing production values.

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Awesome! I am overjoyed you liked the video. Thank you for very kind words and thank you for watching. Cheers!

Its 4:45am… i am going to start this new year by shouting ZORN! Then “North, North Memphis!”

@michaeljohnnolan

5 ай бұрын

Haha! ZORN 2024!!!! Cheers!

Thank you

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Thank you!

The ending was a riot! 🤣

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Awesome! Hermes loves his mood lighting. Thanks for watching! Appreciate the comment.

berry nice

@michaeljohnnolan

10 ай бұрын

Excellent! Thank you so much. I appreciate it. And thanks for watching!

Awesome as always. I've been meaning to paint that skull and candle ever since I got the reference from the class. Might actually get around to it this week.

@michaeljohnnolan

10 ай бұрын

Please do! That would be just too cool. Thanks again! It was great to meet you and work with you the other week.

Спасибо, очень наглядно и понятно.

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Excellent! I am so glad you liked the video. Thank you for watching and commenting.

Pyrrole red also works as a substitute

@michaeljohnnolan

2 ай бұрын

It sure does. Thanks for the suggestion. Cheers!

Use this in the spirit of zorn Add colors you need for a specific area

@michaeljohnnolan

3 ай бұрын

Excellent! That's how I typically start a palette. Start with a Zorn palette and then add the colors that I need to complete the painting. Thanks for watching!

@louiswolfe5012

3 ай бұрын

@@michaeljohnnolan thanks

I've recently started using the zorn palette, since I'm new to oil painting. The mistake that I keep on making is that I'm not using the black as a blue. I know it's meant to be a blue, but when it comes time to mix color, I just use the black to darken the other colors.

@michaeljohnnolan

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and the comment. Absolutely, we all have done that. The nice thing about the Zorn is that Ivory Black is both the blue cooler hue and it is also the darkening value. Outside of the Zorn palette, for more natural colors, try to darken or neutralize a color with the opposite complement color. Good luck on your painting. Cheers!

The problem with Zorn is that Ivory black has none of the blueness that the actual pigment (made of charred Ivory) used to have. It is just carbon black in a different tube. All the colors have changed over the years. To make maters worse, while the Zorn palette has gained in popularity on KZread, I once contacted a very experienced paint tech, at one of the top companies, and asked him which colors he recommended for the Zorn palette. He had never heard of it. So were aren't going to get much support from the paint companies. The first company that cracks the code, will probably gain a lot of support.

@michaeljohnnolan

28 күн бұрын

Great info. Thank you for sharing. You are so right... I should've made mention of the modern "Ivory" Black, but I thought the video was long enough. That is so wild about the paint tech not knowing about the Zorn palette. Looks like we are on our own. Thanks for watching and commenting. Appreciate you!

I think you're paintings are much better than Freud's.

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Wow! Thank you. You are beyond kind. Freud is one of my artistic heroes. Thank you for watching and for the kind note. Cheers!

The more I think about it...the more rock'n'roll Zorn gets...

@michaeljohnnolan

10 ай бұрын

Nice! Anders was definitely the Meat Loaf of painting!

@krang-malinkarlsson8642

8 ай бұрын

Yes he was, is and will stay rock’n’roll! I’m glad you like him! I wish I could time travel and go back to the days when he was still teaching at the local school he and Emma built up a 120 years ago…

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

@@krang-malinkarlsson8642 I'm in!

It's also easier to remix and find the exact colour again using a limited palette like the Zorn.

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Well said. Absolutely! Thanks for watching and for the note.

hello sir nice content which pastel are you refering soft pastel or oil pastel?

@michaeljohnnolan

9 ай бұрын

Thank you, Kenneth. I am glad you liked the video. I was mainly referring to oil pastels. Thanks for the question.

@kennethaquino8352

9 ай бұрын

welcome i also use zorn palette on acrylic

@michaeljohnnolan

9 ай бұрын

@@kennethaquino8352 Excellent! As do I. It is such a versatile palette. What kind of subjects do you like to paint?

@kennethaquino8352

9 ай бұрын

@@michaeljohnnolan mostly portrait sir iam from Phillippines

@michaeljohnnolan

9 ай бұрын

@@kennethaquino8352 Excellent, Kenneth! From the Philippines, awesome! Portrait painting is some true painting right there. The Zorn palette is perfect for portraits. Thank you again. Cheers!

can anyone point me to how the grid @ 07:49 is made please?

Can I be sent this set along with cad lemon, magenta, and ultramarine blue?

@michaeljohnnolan

3 ай бұрын

A Zorn palette with the additions of these colors creates a very earthy-intense dual primary palette. Sounds like fun to me. Happy painting. Thanks for watching!

@louiswolfe5012

3 ай бұрын

@@michaeljohnnolan but can I be sent these Ya know a manufacturer who will donate

Could you please make an art studio tour video?

@michaeljohnnolan

10 ай бұрын

Awesome! That is a great idea. Thank you. I would be happy to do that. It is on the schedule. Thanks for watching!!!

@comunidadbitcoin2050

10 ай бұрын

Ditto!

@michaeljohnnolan

10 ай бұрын

@@comunidadbitcoin2050 Nice! Thanks. Will do! :)

@chercurry

10 ай бұрын

​@@michaeljohnnolanawesome! I'm looking foreward to seeing that.

@michaeljohnnolan

10 ай бұрын

@@chercurry Very cool!

"light is color!"

Nice video. The problem with the Zorn, is that none of the colours are available today; OK, you can get yellow Ochre (YO), but given that there are a wide rang of different YO pigments, and that despite the online popularity of Zorn, few if any paint companies make a Zorn palette kit, I wouldn't hold my breath that they have the right YO. I called one of the top two Acrylic painting companie's paint tech, and he hadn't even heard of it! Vermilion. Maybe, but the original was fugitive, and is largely not available. The most Commonly recommended, Cadmium Red Light, is both highly toxic, expensive, and not really close. White. Here we fall off a cliff. Ti White, is nothing like lead white, not just in one respect, but a whole range of differences. Worst of all Ivory Black (the blacks are all the same really), has no blue whatever in it, it just a different labeling of Lamp Black. The blue is not subtle, it is non-existent. Apparently there was a blue tinge to Ivory, but notwithstanding are the huge piles of charred Ivory we regularly create these days, there is not way we can use any byproduct of elephant poaching. The "Zorn" palette is none the less a very popular tool, and should possibly be the first palette one tries when one exhaust the black white palette.

@michaeljohnnolan

9 ай бұрын

Thank you so much. I'm glad you liked the video. Also, I appreciate your thoughtful and informative comment. It would be amazing if an established paint company tried to make an authentic Zorn palette set. A huge miss. And you are 100% right. In just my short experience dealing with pigments for the last few decades, oil colors have change so much over that time. Yellow Ochre is all over the place with so many variations. It would be super nice to know which one Zorn ACTUALLY used. I've read too many different assumptions. In regards to Vermilion, I did not know that. I had no idea that the original Vermilion was more fugitive. That would've been nice to experience. Totally, modern Ivory Black is so different than that of the Grumbacher oil tubes I have that look like they date back to the 70's. They might actually be from the 80's, hard to tell. As for the lack of blue in modern Ivory black, Payne's Grey is always recommended as an alternative...BUT the modern mixture with Ultramarine Blue is way too strong and Payne's Grey doesn't even get close to making a true dark. Thanks again! It was great getting to read your thoughts. Cheers!

@krang-malinkarlsson8642

8 ай бұрын

Hi, I'm just adding some facts about the pigments. Anders Zorn used pigments from Winsor & Newton, Schmincke and LeFranc Paris, canvas from Swedish brand Becker (still live n' kicking), local pigments and solvents/mediums in Europe. As any other artist he tested, added and used new synthetic colours at the time. He used Gamboge (the real stuff not the synthetic New Gamboge we use today), Prussian Blue, Lamp Black, Chinese White and Brown Pink. All these colours was in his palette - they are displayed in the exhibition at the Zorn Museum in Mora, Sweden. I know that at least one manufacturer (Royal Talens, NL) keep records of how, when and who made specific colours since 1899 when it was founded. with their archives art restorer can get the actual reciepe for a colour to touch up old paintings. When some of Zorn's paintings were under a microscope prior the exhibition, they found these layers from the painting with Zorn in his red suite: 1. Lead white with chalk, 2. Beige paint (lead white and zinc white and alumino silicates), 3. Viridian and lead white, 4. Reddish-brown paint layer - Vermillion, bone black, lead white, earth pigments and alumino silicates. Well... I'm off to see the exhibition one more time before they take it down. /Malin

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

@@krang-malinkarlsson8642 Malin! Thank you for adding. Wow! That is just too cool. I am so jealous... go see that exhibition another time for me, as well. I read he had also used Gamboge, Prussian Blue and Viridian, but I did not know about the other colors. You can totally make out that little stroke of Viridian gently scrubbed in his tie in his self-portrait with the rust orange jacket. Anyway, thank you again for contributing. I appreciate you taking the time to share and comment. I just learned so much from you and Hondo. Cheers!

@krang-malinkarlsson8642

8 ай бұрын

@@michaeljohnnolan I'll have you in mind when I'm off to the museum. I only live 4 km (2.5 miles) away and literally grew up with his legacy in my hometown. I can share one cool thing about the way he painted portraits, especially a full size of the late Swedish king Gustav V. No matter where you stand in the exhibition hall where it hangs the gaze of the king always follows you around... as if a revolving sculpture, never taking the eyes off of you. A bit creepy but still sooo cool! Link below to the painting. commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Anders_Zorn_-_Gustav_V.jpg#/media/Fil:Anders_Zorn_-_Gustav_V.jpg

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

@@krang-malinkarlsson8642 Thanks for the link. That is one of my favorites too. Now that I think of it... I have only seen a few Zorn works in person. They have such a power and vitality to them. Honestly, they pulse from the wall. I appreciate your passion. Enjoy the show. Cheers!

*the classic academic palet

Dokken! 😂

Studio tour? 🫣🤔

@michaeljohnnolan

10 ай бұрын

Haha! Should I...? Is that a yes? Okay, I will! :)

@Selena_a

10 ай бұрын

@@michaeljohnnolan yay!

It doesn´t matter what or how many colors you have on your palette. Either you have the color vision in your eyes and the technique, or not.

Top!! :) 666

art like golf like boating like horse racing, polo, is a rich persons sport. Pencil is all that is left and that is why pencil and paper and watercolor will always be king. Simple. Cheap. No mess no fuss.

@michaeljohnnolan

7 ай бұрын

Oil painting is definitely a luxury and the materials can get super expensive. While pencils and watercolor can create epic beauty, nothing comes close to the power and illumination of oil paint to capture a concept. It is by far worth the extra cost and effort in exchange for the added potential and possibilities. Come to the dark side with us. :)

@brandonleroux6059

7 ай бұрын

@@michaeljohnnolan hahaha im trying but the force is not strong with me lol

Zerking off to zorn again I see

Zorn palette isofficially the polygnotian palette, or polygnotian climax...Ancient greek and greek orthodox painting is basically polygnotian.

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Excellent! I did not know that. Polygnotus was definitely painting well before Apelles. And I was not that familiar with his palette. Appreciate the input. Thanks for watching!

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@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Nonono……that color palette was even used by the Fayum mummy portrait painters in the FIRST century.

@michaeljohnnolan

28 күн бұрын

Nice! I did not know that. Thanks for watching.

Hahahah ❤

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Just don't have John Zorn's music playing while attempting to mix your colors however... You won't be able to focus.

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Haha! A fair warning. A reference lost on younger viewers. :)

While i agree with most of what you say, i would disagree with what you are saying in regards to ivory black being a blue. Its not, its actually quite warm. Titanium white is just extremely cool. This is very important when painting, as not veing aware of titanium’s cold nature leads to killing warmth in your lighter values.

He accidentally recreated a Rothko 8:55

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Nice! I love that. "Accidental Rothko" is a great band name.

I found people on Mars 2004 herry lehane Mars

Ivory black is burnt umner + ultramarine blue , nad when you mix it it can looks like dark brown or more blushe and stronder. BUT iVORY BLck hVE THt colours one oges in wRM ORANGES BURNT UMBRA TILL ULTRA MARINE BLUE goes to coldest.... I just ask myself wat i see on photography , is this red, green ,blue aka RGB and Mark Caeder learn me about most imortant things, ton and color to 100 percent sea and mix it in minute then aply with no blending, John Sargent reralistic painting with abstract bruseh strokes, this chanela is good, you know to create contnet and montage that im not, thats thaking sucha TIME energy and i better drawung , painting and take look like just, also like Tishler to look. Alapay Efe , this one chanel, and yes man learning till death, there is no sucha thing like im best master on world just qualty art and adivice and trash art that advice i dont need. I know to mix turkoise blue and red ochre, indian zellow, only yello ,red transparent oxide and flake white i cant. Sorry for Eng.

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Thank you for the comment and kind words. I'm not sure if I understand everything you were referring to but those color combinations are very good. And you can never go wrong with Sargent's work. Thanks again for taking the time. Cheers!

Basquiat used cocaine and Crack in his colors and made millions of Dollars.

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment. I had read he used a lot of drugs in general, but I had no idea they were in his paints too. Thanks for watching.

A word about pronunciation. If it matters to you, in Italian,the name Caravaggio is pronounced Cara-VAH- joe The letter i is not pronounced.

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Great to know! Thank you for taking the time. I guess my Arizona accent wants to pronounce all the letters. Appreciate it.

I found people on Mars 2004

So I don't need 48 colors? Ha ha

@michaeljohnnolan

8 ай бұрын

Haha! Nice!

Zorn also dressed like a pimp.