UPDATED MSRP FROM MSI FOR THE UK as of 4th January 2022. B660 MAG B660 TOMAHAWK WIFI £219.99 B660 MAG B660 TOMAHAWK WIFI DDR4 £209.99 B660 MAG B660M MORTAR WIFI £209.99 B660 MAG B660M MORTAR WIFI DDR4 £199.99 B660 MAG B660M MORTAR £199.99 B660 MAG B660M MORTAR DDR4 £189.99 B660 MAG B660M BAZOOKA £179.99 B660 MAG B660M BAZOOKA DDR4 £169.99 B660 PRO B660-A £169.99 B660 PRO B660-A DDR4 £159.99 B660 PRO B660M-A WIFI £159.99 B660 PRO B660M-A WIFI DDR4 £149.99 B660 PRO B660M-A £149.99 B660 PRO B660M-A DDR4 £139.99 B660 PRO B660M-G £119.99 B660 PRO B660M-G DDR4 £114.99 B660 PRO B660M-B £114.99 B660 PRO B660M-B DDR4 £109.99 B660 PRO B660M-E £104.99 B660 PRO B660M-E DDR4 £99.99 B660 PRO B660M-C EX DDR4 £149.99

@navi2710

Жыл бұрын

Is there any worth while differences between all these motherboards.

Great looking motherboard, great video, thanks Mike. Can’t see this ever falling into my Orbit for building a system.

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

if the price is right i would definitely go for one, especially with the huge void in AMD stock

Happy New Year Mike & Kath...Hope 2022 is good for you and your family :-)

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

Same to you and yours!

Thorough overview.

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching :-)

hello, great video mike, already subscribed but i have a question, does this motherboard support a intel i7? if it does, all gens or just older ones? thank you and have a nice day

@mikesunboxing

Жыл бұрын

12th and 13th gen will be okay on here and thanks for watching and commenting

Interesting review Mike. Afraid out of my league as only last year jumped from AM3+ motherboard, had used AthlonII and FX cpus on it, to B450 & R5 3600, so clearly not big user of PC! Looks a good board with big heatsinks although confusing intel still runs RAM at slow speeds. Presume hear from cpu then? Thanks for sharing Mike and Kath👍

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

cheers Nick i actually really miss the FX range, good times

hello again mike, i have another question, do you know if the GPU MSI Geforce RTX 3060 (12gb GDDR6) nvidia will work with this motherboard? thx and have a good day

@mikesunboxing

Жыл бұрын

yes it will

Will you be reviewing the GIGABYTE B660 AORUS MASTER DDR4 too? Came out recently

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

possibly but no firm plans right now

Does this out-of-box support i5 12400F? Does any Bios update required? I am planning to buy this mother board. Since there is no Bios Flashback button available, I am a little bit concerned.

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

yes it does

The entire 12th Gen lineup of boards have been OTT and a bit overpriced imo. But the quality of the Mortar has often been compared to an M-ATX version of the Tomahawk in the past so it’s no slouch in terms of features & performance. Nice looking board and great review Mike. Great to see your the reviewer who firsts shows this awesome motherboard. 🤯🏆🎉🥳🥰

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

thanks Michael, and yes this is a really solid board and has the muscle but the chipset lets it down now that we know the price, this should be a z chipset at this price in my opinion, nearly £200 for a multiplier locked board is a bitter pill to swallow

Does the non wifi of this board have Mystic Light support? My aio cooler is connected to jrainbow2 header but MSI center is not letting me change the rgb

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

not sure sorry not seen that board but if it has the physical ARGB or RGB header then it should be able to be controlled in msi center

I'm on the fence between this board B660M Mortar Wifi or PRO B660M-A WIFI. Any thoughts?

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

whichever is cheapest i guess not a lot between them

Whadaya think Mike, the stickers add, what, about 5-8 FPS?

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

at least :-)

I noticed the DDR5 ram doesn't yet approach the latency of DDR4 ram which can get to around 10ns of latency but can the DDR5 be better in other ways (for gaming)? Or is it better to shoot for DDR4 ram with the lowest latencies possible?

@mikesunboxing

Жыл бұрын

ddr5 because of the increase in bandwidth the latency numbers are higher but actually comparable

Interesting Mike to see these new motherboards. Looking forward to buy a cheap CPU on second hand market and mount it on this kind of motherboards. probable if available one from Asus that I prefer. I do not use a buzzer and never did.

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

looking forward to see how much there are going to charge for the new 12th gen locked processors, not long to go now before we find out

how much room is there for air cooler like "arctic freezer 34 esports duo" can we use this cooler in this motherboard please reply

@mikesunboxing

Жыл бұрын

yes that is fine

I think between the Asus tuf b660m plus wifi and the MSI b660m wifi mortar, Mike your review made me chose the Mortar. Thanks, good review as always.Did I make a good choice.

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

Good choice! i want one of my own (the review one had to go back to msi)

@novalovan

2 жыл бұрын

what do you think about Gigabyte b660m aorus pro ax?

Can MSI MAG B660M MORTAR WIFI only connect one 8pin CPU ? (As my PSU only has one 8pin EPS, and will use i5-12600K with non overclocking)

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

yes you could maybe even get away with 4 pin at a push

Hi Mike,i'd love to buy this board for my new 12th gen 12600 build,the only thing is holding me is the heatsink of this board might interfere with an AIO build and i am building in corsair 220T case....

@mikesunboxing

Жыл бұрын

should be okay i think, i would be more concerned putting an AIO in the 220T i think i tried that and the front is about the only place it will fit

@harolddasynth795

Жыл бұрын

@@mikesunboxing Some barely got by it but used a low profile RAM which i am planning to do,thanks anyway bud

i got the b550m mortar wifi for my ryzens and man this mobo look really well built, the wifi is great, the only downside was the bluetooth range that is a little bit scuffed, other than that im really happy, i would bet on this one for sure

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

the mortar range has never had a bad move, so far

Hey , these are my specs , will everything fit in the case and are compatible with the motherboard? GPU- MSI Radeon RX 6600 CPU - Intel i5 12400F Ram - Corsair Vengeance RGB pro 8x2 3200 C16 HDD - Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive SSD - Western Digital WD_BLACK SN750 SE 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Cooler - NZXT Kraken M22 Liquid CPU Cooler 120mm PSU - Corsair CXM 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply Cabinet - NZXT H510 Flow ATX Any help would be nice, thanks

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

cant see any obvious problems there but i have not built in that case to know of any potential issues

Thanks a lot @Mike'sunboxing You are the first on youtube to unbox & review this one i m a big fan from india of ur content. it should not be priced more than 175usd because in 200usd the Z690 mobos are already there & one more reason is that it is still DDR4 so if anyone will spent more money he will choose z690 with DDR5 compatibility. i would love to buy this one is my favourite B660M MORTAR WIFI for my 12600k or if 12600 launched in CES tomorrow 😍😍😍😍 Please Share this video & Channel thanks again 🙏🙏🙏🙏

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

thanks so much for your kind words! I hope this board comes out at $125 -$150 that would make it a great option

Not bad prices but am not entirely sold on these 12th gen CPU’s at the moment so am gonna wait and see what response amd comes up with

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

that is a sensible view

I just finished removing snow from the street and it is 5:20 in the morning.. If i ever build an Intel computer, that coulf be a board I will consider. But my budget for new stuff is busted for a while...😞

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

think we will be getting a little snow towards the end of the week, just what we need right now

What's the difference between the B660M and 660M-A or 660M-P?

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

just slightly different sub models

Can I install a noctua nhd15 to this and does it come with a back bracket?

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

it will do now, or if old stock you can request a bracket

@yzyus

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikesunboxing which do U think is better this or the asus strix b550 f gaming wifi II

I was tempted to pick up a cheap 11th gen cpu/motherboard combo but I think I will be kicking myself in a few months if I did this.

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

it will depend on the pricing, and availability

for handle procecore i7 12700f. is any good ?

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

yes that would work well

Does B660-A DDR4 have same vrm as PRO B660M-A DDR4 ?

@mikesunboxing

Жыл бұрын

not sure sorry not had the ATX version

One of the only m-ATX boards with ALC1200 audio which is nice. I see that it now comes in ddr4 or 5 variants.

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

yes MSI have once again come out fighting

Good choice for the i5 12400f?

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

yes it is

still use a buzzer that i've popped on my B450 Carbon board, it is used so i can hear a clean boot whilst making coffee cheers!

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

i do miss the bios post beep might hook up a buzzer to my pc now

Can this MB, OC the new i5 12400F Chip?

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

no sorry Z series boards only and needs to be a K series processor

This can handle a 12600k very well, right? I don't care about OC but CPU itself is very good.

@mikesunboxing

Жыл бұрын

yes great board for it

Has anyone tested MSI PRO B660-A with UBUNTU? thanks

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

not me sorry

Maybe a tad expensive at this price point considering the other mobos on the market (including some of MSIs own ones) but not a bad board to look at and it does what it says on the tin. Drop the price a bit and these would fly off the shelves. Thanks for the review, Mike and Kath :-)

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

if the 12th gen locked processors are cheap enough it will make the board more appealing, but if AMD get their stuff together and release a bunch or 3100, 3300x and 3600 at the MSRP it is game over for intel on the lower end

@bsh7390

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't know at this point Mortar (MAG) were count as Budget friendly motherboard.. the price is really bad

@MrDucatiV4

2 жыл бұрын

I got this board for $160 on Amazon during a sale. Not bad for supporting ddr4 and it looks amazing.

@uglybob7505

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrDucatiV4 Excellent find, Michael ! At that price its a steal !

@bsh7390

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrDucatiV4 Great price, my place / retails selling this for $250 inclusive tax

can i use this even though i have 1 8pin cpu?

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

yes you can

How many system fans in total can be connected to this board??

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

as many as you want if you use a hub.

@shwetabhm

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikesunboxing I don't know to use a hub .. My case has 2 front fans, was looking to put 2 more at the top for simple intake.. Just want to know whether this board can take up 4 fans if directly connected to the board?

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

@@shwetabhm No - you are going to need a splitter or a hub

I'm thinking of this build set up, partially via Alphasync, any thoughts? Following options selected via Alphasync, intel custom build options: intel i5 12600k MSI B660M DDR 4 wifi mobo (as reviewed above) Corsair 32gb vengeance rgb pro 3600mhz ram Corsair RM850 psu Coolermaster hyper 212 black cooler MSI Rtx Ventus 3080 That comes to £1,444 I want a 2tb M2 drive but their options were ludicrously overpriced so thinking of oing for mid range by WD: WD BLACK SN770 2TB SSD M.2 2280: 5150/4850 for £184 Got an SSD with Win 10 retail copy so can clone to new drive So total build cost - £1628 Any thoughts? Bad choices? better choices? Aim is a decent gaming platform for MS Flight Simulator and other fairly hig end games

@mikesunboxing

Жыл бұрын

not keen on building it yourself Burt?

@burtleboeuf1429

Жыл бұрын

@@mikesunboxing I'd love to butI'm not really in the kind of mental space at the mo to get to grips with building again, after being awol from it for at least 10 years :-) I'd rather let someone do it for me. This way i still get a lot of control over the quality of the components but none of the hassle.

Nice looking mb 🙂 a bit pricey but sure that price will come down over time, cheers for review mike 👍

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

hope the processors are a sensible price, we really need something to fill the gap AMD have left

@tech_jims

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikesunboxing agree shame too the ryzen 3s were good but vanished all to quickly 😢

MSI Pro B660M-B DDR4 is it any good?

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

seems like a good choice

@firstchushingura

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikesunboxing I went for this set: Intel Core i3-12100F 3.3GHz GoodRAM IRDM X 2x8GB DDR4 RAM 3200MHz Patriot P300 SSD 128GB M.2 NVMe PCI Express 3.0 (Only for the OS) I keep my old Drives. Asus Prime B660M-A WiFi D4 Arctic Freezer 7 X I red ALL benchmarks and set this one for the best VFM as it is now... What do you think. Total Cost 348,11 € with Delivery Service. I have a really... really tight budget and a kid to feed. My pc is 9 years old so this set is an improvement.

@firstchushingura

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikesunboxing i wanted this one... MSI Pro B660M-B DDR4 but it was 45 Euro difference.

Bought this a RTX3060 Gaming X and an I5 12500 to replace my ryzen 7 2700 and RX570 hehe. Can't wait!

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

hope you enjoy your upgrade

Would have got this board, but the only thing stopping me is the fact you can't overclock properly. I'll stick with the x570 for now

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

yeah the intel limitations are definitely hurting sales in my opinion

High ranking overview, and the possible support of 13th gen Intel Raptor Lake would be a sweet deal. Hopefully the price wars between intel and AMD start the price drops soon.

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

agreed competition is good for us the end users

@roythunderplump

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikesunboxing Intel Core i5 12400F £179/ i5 12400 £199 @ ccl computers.AMD will have to drop the 5600x prices.

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure if they need to, the motherboards are a lot cheaper and all amd chips are unlocked, availability is going to be a key factor

@roythunderplump

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikesunboxing Amazon UK have recently dropped some B550, X570S motherboards by 10-12 % Maybe that is how AMD will keep the cpu prices the same.

I just watched it again, after some rest, and the fact trhat better the vrm are, less heat is emmited from them. So having such big heat sink put some questions as how power hungry really are the 12gen Intel when really pushed ...

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

yeah the 12th gen are thermally aggressive it seems across the board

@patricklebel1141

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikesunboxing I think the only one that make sense is the 12400. But maybe things wil change later..

Since when was 200ish "budget"? I remember when 200 for a board was reserved for high end ROG boards.

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

yeah it is a sad thing to see happening and it doesn't seem to be slowing with boards getting more and more expensive for maybe a 5% speed increase, seems nuts really

Great review just bought it for $179 USD and paired it with a Intel i3 12100F $109 USD. Now trying to get my hands on a RTX 3050. Had a RTX 3050 in my cart for $379 and was debating, but apparently waited too long as it sold out and relisted for $399...:( At Some point i'll get a GPU I think...lol

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

hope you manage to get one soon

@vic2net

Жыл бұрын

Hey man, If you had this MSI Mortar and 12100f - did you tried to overclock this CPU with BCLK overclocking? I saw an article were was said that this Motherboard can overclock using BCLK

It's shame that MSI does not offer B660 ITX form factor motherboard! Not interested in mATX at all.

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

yeah it will come soon i think

Think it would have been better to have waited and did a proper review rather than a speculative 'preview'.

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

i wish i had that option the board was only loaned for a short period for the unboxing, i think i mentioned this in the video. I cant test with processors that i had no access to, even MSI didn't have them for us to loan sadly

It is stupid to call this budget when it costs basically as z690 mobo!! Its like calling BMW 7 budget car because it cost 5% less then Mercedes S class

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

yes i was expecting it to be a lot cheaper, as i said in the video it was recorded before the retail prices were disclosed. At nearly £200 i would be shopping over at AMD

@Mr11ESSE111

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikesunboxing AMD have problem of overpriced zen2, 3 cpus

I think it’s more like midrange,likes of Asus Prime ,MSI Pro,Gigabyte and Asrock HDV fit budget criteria better.. it’s now £175 for Wifi and £150 for non wifi.. the Asus Tuf B660M is also same price and looks much nicer but Asus have crappy audio chip Alc897. I wish those heatsinks weren’t silver,that’s what stops me from buying it they look hideous. The Mortar non wifi variant is all black and looks much better but I need wifi..

My son just picked up the non Wi-Fi version for 150£ No need for the gym today after fitting that board.

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

lol yes it is insanely heavy isn't it

@MrAckers75

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikesunboxing it’s easily heavier than my z590 msi board

Camo stickers are because mortar is a muzzle loaded weapon in military

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

good point!

Over the course of a few weeks, Alder Lake has gone from scary overpriced to the budget platform of choice.

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

if the motherboards follow suit then that might be the case for gamers, content creators not so much

As i'm new to PC building,it is beyond my understanding ,why there's 20 versions of same MB,yet non of them has proper clamp for CPU.Further more,the naming of motherboards:There's PRO Series,one might think these are high tier.But nooo,we also have Bazooka,Mortar and Tomahawk! What the actual fuck?With this logic,the Nuke version is probably best..

£199 for cruelly but truthfully a second rate chipset is way too much. Once you're crossing the ~£180 boundary you are almost certainly better served with a lower end Z690 board like the Asus Prime models than an expensive B660.

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

I agree these prices are pretty outrageous I was expecting a lot less. I would expect them to be £120 within a very short time with the market as it is now

@pgr3290

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikesunboxing Personally £150 is my limit on a B660 before I would rather just spend the extra on a Z690. I was looking at picking up a 12400f and chucking it on a cheap board for a speedy gaming machine. That CPU is available for just £175. Stunning value, until you see the board selection and prices. Unfortunately options are limited but I would hope given another month there should be decent choices at and considerably below my target.

why is this comment section so kind

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

good question? now i know the price of this board and others in the range i'll admit i'm not heading out to buy an intel setup in the foreseeable future

Was not able to see this video before. because it was on privat. now i'm able to see it. So Support comment 😎

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

thanks, there was an issue with the NDA timing so had to set it to private

This is by no means a budget B660 board. MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4 is cheaper, offers a better chipset, features, decent thermals even for 12900K, just doesn't look as fancy.

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

yes these prices are a real disappointment to be honest, the prices were unknown to me before the video launch so sorry for that

@jondasek

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikesunboxing Sure, I understand. Actually TUF Gaming B660M-PLUS seems a better deal, but still the B550 equivalent is cheaper.

@jackw4150

2 жыл бұрын

How sure are you that MSI Pro Z690-A is better than B660 mortar, I would to know, because I am in dilemma for these two mobo.

@jondasek

2 жыл бұрын

@@jackw4150 It's got a better chipset. You can overclock the cpu on Z690, not on a B660, and the thermals are still good even on this cheap MSI board as what Gamers Nexus said. But I'm not sure about the audio output or so, maybe that can be better on the B660 Mortar. Also Z690-A Pro has got a PCIe 5.0 slot, while B660 Mortar only PCIe 4.0.

Everything above 100$,£,€ you cant named budget

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

yes this is way too expensive for what it offers regardless of the vrm and cooling potential

Comentarios en español por favor

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

i'll see what i can do

overpriced, especially considering how dirt cheap the AM4 boards are being sold for in the UK

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

i agree

Best budget board??? Its 200 pounds!!!!

@mikesunboxing

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I know the prices weren’t available until after the video was done. I did mention this and am very sorry that msi and intel have put such a new adoption tax on this chipset and platform

@RandoBurner

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikesunboxing Could prices come down though?

@Don_Akane89

Жыл бұрын

@@RandoBurner not sure if it ever did, but looking at present price points where I'm at, the b660m Mortar & TUF Gaming B660m are more or less the same at around $200. A cheaper & pretty good MSI b660m-a can be found at $150. Cheapest Z690 I can find is a MSI PRO z690-A at $210.

@RandoBurner

Жыл бұрын

@@Don_Akane89 The m-a is really great. I just went with a zen3 upgrade for my b450 board. Will prob upgrade again in 2-3 years to a ddr5 and whatever board and cpu will be better value then.

@RandoBurner

Жыл бұрын

@@Don_Akane89 The M-A doesnt have bios flashback though I think. The b660 gaming x from gigabyte though has it, and it doesn't look too bad(if you want to get a 13th gen cpu with it, non k or 13600k max prob)