Hey everyone - whilst this is a sit back and listen style video - you might be thinking: wouldn't it be cool if I could just get Ranzee to do [INSERT SOMETHING COOL] ... well, you're in luck! On Saturday 30th May 2020 at 2PM UTC (3PM UK, 10AM NY) - I'll be doing my live stream and I've got this connected up - so ask away :) :) :) .... link to future live stream: kzread.info/dash/bejne/a4eXpJuAgLq_eJs.html

121 is such a good value for 2 VCFs. Sounds great without being as crazy as the Moog filters. Obviously you will want both types as well as an MS-20 style filter but I’d recommend this module to anyone who has a Neutron and wants to start getting into Eurorack.

@ranzee

2 жыл бұрын

Good call - I agree the B should do filter modules (in eurorack) of their K-2, Pro-1, WASP, and Cat modules.

The 121 sounds amazing with the Neutron, used to play with a System 100 101 & 104 in school, i really miss that sound. FWIW the first thing i did with my Neutron was replace the faceplate with one set up for V2 from Audio Parasites, looks ridiculously good (black with subtle but ornate artwork) - would look great with your setup.

I enjoyed the walk through of those deliciously bubbly sounds! :)

@ranzee

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers mate.

Finally someone doing a demo of this. Thank you for a really good demonstration. I’ve been looking at the Jove filter, but this is dual, and I think it sounds great

@ranzee

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers bobbfett.musiclab, I should probably do a follow-up video on this - as I've discovered it can do Overdrive and a few other tricks.

@AlexA-gf3xd

3 жыл бұрын

@@ranzee Wow, how is this?

Thanks for this👍 Such a thorough analysis. It sounds very Roland and great thru the delay fx. Arturia rack case are so cool too

@ranzee

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers RK :) This could have been hours long if I'm honest. It is amazing how mesmorizing a lowpass filter can be! ... geeking out!

Phantastic sounds! I already have the Roland Filter from Behringer, now the osci is aviable. It sounds phantastic! Really love it's Sound! I must order the osci now.

@ranzee

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you like it!

Hey, thanks so much for the video! One remark though: Correct me if I am wrong but I believe that mod 1-3 are ALL for the cutoff of the filter only and not for the resonance and the fixed HPF, which, of course, would make the "fixed" in it obsolete. Makes sense because you want to route an envelope and maybe 2 additional lfo/s/h to the filter

@ranzee

4 жыл бұрын

Hi fantasytennistracker, I think you could be right. The arrows on the module misleadingly point to each separate section - but my tests just now are seeing that it only modulates the cutoff. ... and I just checked the documentation and this is what it says: MOD IN - Connect a voltage that controls the VCF LPF frequency. Great pickup!

@ArtFluids

4 жыл бұрын

@@ranzee This is good though because there's lots of times when I want to modulate cutoff with envelope, keytracking AND a VCO for filter FM. So 3 attenuatable cutoff inputs is very welcome imo.

@JeffDayPoppy

2 жыл бұрын

​@@ranzee Yeah, the arrows are just pointing to the corresponding attenuator. They're all for lowpass cutoff modulation. Its worth noting that if you have no inputs coming in, turn up the resonance all the way and run a CV into one of these with it mostly open, you can make-shift a VCO out of it with something close to a 1V/oct input. (Careful, its loud, but you can then run that filter into the other one to tame it.)

To clarify, this is a clone of the Roland System 100m, not the 100. The filter on the Boland 100 filter is way bassier but less distorted than the original 100. The original 100 filter sound is angry!

FAB! just picked mine up, about to plug in.. may get another to patch a poly modular setup once I get my hands on a keystep pro ;-)

@ranzee

4 жыл бұрын

Nice - let me know how you go!

Gorgeous sounding filter beauty and a beast.

@ranzee

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah - so Roland-ey ... I hoped to show the filter tapped back into itself - but it didn't really do the Moog thing, probably did something wrong :)

@AdamTheAd-vanc3d

4 жыл бұрын

@@ranzee Probably because it's more of an OTA based filter which doesn't saturate nicely like a discrete transistor type. The OTA type sound very precise to the point and very transparent. Where as the Moogs saturate and colour the initial waves quite a bit imo.

@ranzee

4 жыл бұрын

@@AdamTheAd-vanc3d Yeah that explains it a lot, thanks :)

I used to own the semi-modular Roland System 100 (1975), full system, 101, 102 expander, sequencer and mixer. The sound was very similar, but not the same as this. I would say they both sound good, but a little different. I am a big fan of the original Sys100 filter, which is similar to the SH-5. I hope Behringer reissue it at some stage as a drop in module!

@ranzee

Жыл бұрын

Hi Andy. If you like SH-5, you could get the Roland System 500 505 module. I have one and it's insane :)

@lundsweden

Жыл бұрын

@@ranzee Yeah I've had a look at that, its very good. I think the 100m filters are pretty good, not worse per se but definately with their own character. I really like the G-Storm SH5-VCF, which is a clone of the SH5 filter. To me its like the System 100 filter plus some extra features. But very expensive! Maybe I'll buy that in six monthsor a year!

Hey I have my 2 behringer 100m modules in a nifty case too! Waiting on the other 3 modules to fill it.

ooh...that Filter Modulation at 14:30 is awesome.

@ranzee

4 жыл бұрын

Hehe - welcome to MATHS! Such a great module!

Great! Thanks!

@ranzee

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Curt ! You're welcome :)

Yeah that's pretty cool... got shivers from listening to some/a lot of this...! Phwoar....

@ranzee

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks man - it's a nice filter!

@krsTBedfordStudios

4 жыл бұрын

@@ranzee I was surprised by just how good..!! At first I thought, hmmm filters are filters, you kinda know what to expect... but that was super sweet..! Might have to grab a few and glue one to each unit I have..!!

that sounds so familiar, must be the same as in the 101, seems i spent a lot of time with that back in the days

@ranzee

3 жыл бұрын

Interestingly at the time I did this video, there wasn't a Behringer 112 module (Dual VCO) available - so I had to use the Neurtron as a sound source. There is a possibility that the Neutron sound maybe closer to the SH-101 than the Dual VCO 112 module. I guess head on over to the Dual VCO video and hear for yourself? I guess there's subtle differences - like the PWM is massive on the 112 ... back to the filter - they are different electrically - this site has some helpful info: www.florian-anwander.de/roland_filters/

@flannsixtyseven7489

3 жыл бұрын

@@ranzee Thanks for pointing me to the VCO video, i could not tell the difference because in that you are not playing anything comparable to 2:29 Good that i own a Neutron, first thought its a cheap re-entry into synths for me but like it more and more and question if i really need to invest thousands into high priced modules to make sounds i like, awesome sound and value for the price, doubt i would like it more if i spent 1000-1500 to recreate whats in the Neutron with separate modules.

@ranzee

3 жыл бұрын

@@flannsixtyseven7489 yeah no probs :) I should also point out that in this video I'm using the MATHS module as an EG (envelope generator) - as that module was also not available. However in the Dual VCO video both had arrived - for anyone wondering, here's the link: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aYmXp8qxY9Wec6Q.html

Can't wait until these modules (particularly dual filter, dual vco, vco/vcf/vca, delay/lfo) _finally_ hit the States. Releasing VCAs and mults first was an odd choice. Anyway, what stand are you using for your niftycase and MPC? I've been looking for a stand to prop up my Toraiz SP-16 below my 6U Rackbrute. The machine is heavy and if it's angled too high the Rackbrute gets in the way of the cables.

@ranzee

4 жыл бұрын

Hey John. I'm using a standard black laptop stand from Ikea. It fits a little snug - but you could mod it easily to allow for the cables to fit with less contact (and they're relatively cheap).

@Zinfidel1

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome, I'll take a look at ikea. Thanks. Maybe i'll invest in some right-angled cables.

Great Job again, Ranzee! Sounding really nice. Oh my poor wallet is twitching again and my bank manager has just broken out in a cold sweat...

@ranzee

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers Andy. Yeah I know the feeling, well my wallet does :)

My 121 doesn't filter the lower frequencies. Does yours bleed these frequencies too?

@ranzee

4 жыл бұрын

Mine works as it should - so perhaps yours may have an issue ...

Vcf sounds Phantastic, I tried it with Behringers Moog model 55 Oscillator 921 VC, it is Unbelievable what comes out! Behringer rules the Musicans.

@ranzee

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Texaco! I've got a Roland/Malekko 512 dual Oscillator going into the Behringer VCF 121 now - both are supposedly System-100m clones - and it does sound rather lovely :)

@texacomann

4 жыл бұрын

@@ranzee Behringer build good clone, I experienced by myself and I read everywhere nothing Bad. Only some Behringer haters out there, I just spend them a tired smile.

@texacomann

4 жыл бұрын

BTW I think Malekko build the hardware, and Roland just spend the decal with the Roland Logo. So it is Malekkos merit but using a famous Label for better Marketing. It is a special feat from Behringer to built and Provide good Hardware for little money as massive massware. I admire that and we All Profit by having beautiful Hardware clones at home, doing Sound experiments or making music or what ever you like. I think Behringer clones are not neither superior or inferior compared to other clones, they are just cheaper, and that's good.

Its a shame there's no cv over resonance, I know the original doesn't have this.

@ranzee

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah - other modules for that unfortunately :)