610hp in a Vauxhall estate car! That's utter lunacy! I love it.

@urabusliberty9258

4 жыл бұрын

Scrustle it’s not a Vauxhall that’s why

@edgeofreason2710

3 жыл бұрын

In Australia the Holden is just the family bus you take on holidays.

@4dshow

3 жыл бұрын

It’s Vauxhall by name only. Since 2006 its a new platform also shared with the “bumblebee” Camaro.

"Let's try to put together a tidy lap" *spends the whole lap drifting around*

People bad mouthing the VXR8, you buy it for 2 reasons the noise & fun factor & I would buy the VXR8 over the Audi any day

Laptime is irrelevant here. VXR8 FTW! Manual box, Rear wheel drive, 600+ bhp. AWESOME!!!

For years I never understood what people meant when they said a car had "soul". However, having owned a Monaro for three years I totally get it. HSV's are cars you either love or hate. Personally I find they have so much character that they really get under your skin.

The dinging sound when the VXR8 drifts is like the car is scoring you on the drift like in gran turismo or something lol

@Jack-qn4vt

5 жыл бұрын

You might know but incase you don't, it's the noise to let the driver know when to upshift

The vauxhall is aussie built, we've been putting huge engines in commodores and falcons over here for years! For over half less than the audis price tag you have to agree the vauxhall is a good deal. Also this is the older model, search for "vf hsv gts" on google for the new model :)

@rickybartels3941

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but Holden or Ford could never match the Germans for refinement and overall build quality and I'm a one eyed Ford bloke

I want people to buy cars like VXR8 Supercharged. The world needs cars like these. I'm still too young but I'd take a VXR8 over an RS6 any time. Do it for the kids!

@royjaber571

4 жыл бұрын

I know I will

@tailgunner1223

Жыл бұрын

If you buy it, they'll come

seeing an audi oversteer is an awesome spectacle

I'll take the Holden. More driving experience

I've never seen an RS6 drift quite like that. Awesome video.

Next time do a tricycle versus f1 car!

Hi. The Vauxhall is a re badged fully built in Australia car based on the Holden Commodore. Just the fact that it is even compared with an Audi is a huge achievement. It is like comparing a Hyundai with a BMW. I would really enjoy owning either. The Vauxhall punches above its weight and is therefore, a surprise. The Audi does what is expected of it so it is no big surprise. Both cars are fantastic in their own way. Cheers. Nick.

$80,000 vs $225,000 The RS6 awesome but I personally don't think its worth the extra $145,000.

@crankCINEMA

10 жыл бұрын

the gap in australia is actually much bigger then that, look on carsales how much rs6s actually cost

@S14lver

10 жыл бұрын

crankCINEMA Probably , I can imagine your paying allot more taxes and for RHD.

This car perfectly describes the Aussie people 🤣🤣

@CurtisLSA

3 жыл бұрын

We make great cars !

NICE A FULL FAST LAP. I cant tell you how much i missed a car show, especially shows in my country, to let us watch a whole fast lap to really be able to compare those cars against each other. Thanks so much! I would really enjoy watching the driver working those pedals in the Vauxhall ;)

Love these vids EVO. Great with morning tea!

Well, the Audi is more attractive, better engineered, is more composed and it's AWD whch is more appealing considering its size. However, I do have to say that VXR8 is such a beastly grunt, it just looks like a proper man's car and I like it for that.

@tailgunner1223

Жыл бұрын

It is a man's car.

I'm wondering, why don't you guys first do the timed laps and then the drifting ones? And by the way, although I love Holdens I'd choose the RS6.

@mariuszanfir2298

10 жыл бұрын

Because they are getting a better initial feel from the car, they get accustomed with it by breaking its limits. And while doing so, why not film it? :)

@v_alexiadis

10 жыл бұрын

Mzn T Yeah but by doing that the brakes get tired and the tyres wear. Therefore the cars aren't at their best during the timed laps.

@mariuszanfir2298

10 жыл бұрын

ianiva Well... at least they all have bad tires and breaks during the lap, so is still fair :P

@xerox123321

10 жыл бұрын

Mzn T Yeah but some cars stand up to abuse better than others.

@SenszR

10 жыл бұрын

ianiva No, the tyres get warmed up so they *are* at their best. The brakes aren't built to wear out after a couple of laps at the track, neither are the tyres, that'd be stupid.

Technically that VXR8 is a last gen car now (at least in Australia).

@saucybackport

10 жыл бұрын

did you mean latest or previous generation?

@v_alexiadis

10 жыл бұрын

Trusty Tahr It's the previous generation

Damn how does this Quattro work, immaculate GRIP, nothing for the past 10 years couldnt even come close to it, are all British,American,Asian engineers dead, Y is it that German AWD is sooooo much faster than all others

@derbigpr500

10 жыл бұрын

Because Germans make the best cars and bring more innovation to the car world than anyone else, so when they make something, everyone else has to match it...that way they're always behind trying to catch up. It's obvious really that everyone else is a generation behind. One generation of an average German saloon car is about 7-8 years, and only when it's at the very end of the life cycle, american and asian cars can even think of getting close to it with their newest offerings...but at that point a new german car comes out and raises the bar again. It's quite simple.

@1989rs500

10 жыл бұрын

derbigpr500 damn Germans

@hunghuge7717

10 жыл бұрын

Ever heard of a Nissan GTR? The reason most don't go 4wd is because in a lot of situations it makes a car worse. It makes the car heavier, saps more power, corrupts steering and uses more fuel. In most cases that's enough to make it a bad decision because most road cars aren't struggling for traction all the time unless there's snow. Also Quattro isn't the be all and end all a lot of people think. Take this car for example. The drivetrain has a tendency for understeer as all Quattro Audi's do because most of the power goes to the front unless the front has already lost traction. Then it sends more to the rear but by then understeer has already set in. This is great for stability but terrible for turn in so the chassis engineers have set the chassis up right on the edge of stability to compensate for this - the chassis set up is what's allowing him to get it sideways into turns but the Quattro won't let him on the way out. Some 4wd systems do it the other way round where most is sent to the rear unless it slips. This is a much better idea because the drive system has a tendency for oversteer which allows the chassis to be set up in a very stable manner - this is how the GTR works (and the new Porsche, etc) and basically means you have to lose more speed on the way into a turn but can then get on the power far earlier as the drive system won't push the front wide on the exit.

@BakedPrawns

10 жыл бұрын

Hung huge You're getting confused. You're talking about the haldex awd system which is used in the TT and a3/s3 shaped. This is an electronic based awd system that as you say sends most of the power to the front until slip occurs. All quattro cars from a4 upwards have a torsen awd system. This is fully mechanical and the newest T3 generation like in this Rs6 has a default setup of 40:60 front:rear power split. So it's actually rear biased when no slip is occurring. The RS6 then also gets an uprated sports diff in addition to the torsen awd so is a very capable car with great awd technology

@1989rs500

10 жыл бұрын

I have but its still very flimsy car and overall dosent make a luxurious impression like the Audi does, it has power,traction,comfort and interior quality to last a nuke bombing, , what does GTR have a plastic sports car with lots of GRIP and traction its no way near as good or well rounded as an Audi a German car, thas what I am talking about

An oversteering Audi. That's a rare sight to see and magnificent, at that! Audi needs to work on dialing out alot of that understeer and the torque vectoring system is a step in the right direction. Moving the engine rearwards a tad would help alot! They don't need to become oversteering monsters, but eliminating that inherent push when going 9/10ths+ would break the handling stereotype. RS6 FTW! #quattrosnob

@KopaszJack

10 жыл бұрын

I think it drifts only because of the weight shifting mid-corner

@jamsbong

10 жыл бұрын

To get a RWD drift is quite easy compared to AWD drift. If you can toss an AWD into a rally drift like Stig Blomqvist, You're a legend!

@tailgunner1223

Жыл бұрын

A V8,rwd manual wagon fixes this

It's funny that they've matched up an aftermarket tuner version of the previous generation VE Holden Commodore against the brand new RS6. If they'd have matched a properly engineered and factory backed VF HSV GTS you'd expect the difference in times to be cut by at least 2 seconds. The electrical systems on this model are light years ahead of the old one so it'll put the power to the ground, the brakes are better developed so they wouldn't have faded as readily, plus it's lighter through the use of high strength steels and aluminium front panels to boot.

What's that old commodore wagon doing up against a brand new audi? Did they not release the new model there?

@eddied3909

5 жыл бұрын

chipchip Because this guy said from the beginning that this is the only Holden by now in Europe they can use. But I will show you some specifications that whatever Aussie can put in Holden engine can't beat the German Monster. Read now carefully this two cars are most powerfull and they are both the newest ones. Fast facts: HSV GTS - R W1 RRP: $ 170,000 plus on-road costs Engine: Supercharged 6.2 - litre LS9 V8 from Corvette ZR1 Power: 474 kw and 815 Nm Transmission: Six-speed manual 0 to 100 kmh: 4.2 seconds Fast facts: Audi RS6 Avant performance RRP: $ 260.000 Vehicle drive away Price Engine: Bi - Turbo 4.0 litre V8 engine Power: 445 kw and 700 Nm Transmission: 8 - speed tiptronic all wheel drive ( Quattro ) 0 to 100 kmh: 3.7 seconds This model of Audi RS6 Avant performance is launched in 2013 Same as Holden HSV GTS is launched in the same year 2013 The two models which i write the specifications on they are brand new ones.

@jd0192

5 жыл бұрын

Eddie D if they put another $100k into a car I reckon they’d get under 4s. A $15k Walkinshaw pack brings it to 3.7s and 557kW lol

@eddied3909

5 жыл бұрын

Jamie Della Well, " Money talks " you have 💲💲💲 you can make this two cars Monsters but what I am saying is that this vehicles are like this from the factory, and for sure after you can upgrade them and make faster and faster. Also I didn't mention the RS7 is faster then HSV GTS and that's one is from the factory too is not tuned. Buddy my brother in law have 4 Holdens 1. Is Series 1 ss vf redline 6.0 L Auto with tuned of 270 kw engine and back tyres 270 kw 2. Is Series 2 ss vf redline LS3 V8 6.2 L Auto this one is not tuned and have 304 kw back tyres 3. Is Holden Monaro 5.7 L 270 KW back tyres I drive this one for a year till I bought my own car 4. Is Holden VE series 2 Ute 6.0 L upgrade back tyres to 343 kw is too loud so he drive it only on the weekend, and It's really really fast. Spin wheels easily in 3rd & 4th gear, the problem is when you buy a stock car and you upgrade to 343 kw then starts problems. The clutch can't handle that power need to be replaced with a heavy duty one, Auto gear need to be replaces too, differential need to be changed and the brand new good one cost $ 2000, you need a bigger tyres, engine need to be upgrade a bit more so he can handle all that power, and also Insurance after doesn't give a shit for you cause you break the rules he put so much extras in the car. So all this spending money in all this cars you can buy an Audi which is way more faster, but also that's the way when you like the cars who cares how much money need to spend.

@DefsnotJay

4 жыл бұрын

Eddie I'm a holden fan too but after test driving the RS6. I now know why these cars costs that much. The quality of the car is top notch. Luxurious, spacious and hella quick. I felt like I was driving a car from the 1990s when I hop back in the holden lol.

great driving skills!!

Next F-type Coupe VS Cayman S!

The Vauxhall sounds like heaven but the RS6 is the real angel here! Love seeing wagons getting sideways!

RS6 HANDS DOWN!!

For the looks and interior: Audi; for the price: Vauxhall. And I live in the U.S.A.

@iSpotCars

10 жыл бұрын

They both aren't sold here in the US.

Its a funny comparison, since 10 square cm's of interior in the Audi are worth more than the entire interior of the VXR8. Why even bother comparing an engineering masterpiece that's excellent in every way to a plastic toy car with a big engine? When has GM ever made a car that doesn't feel like a plastic toy when put next to the German rivals? Even Cadillac's feel cheap and disposable, let alone a Vauxhall.

@hunghuge7717

10 жыл бұрын

Or look at it the other way round and you have a car that's more fun for a lot less money. The Audi interior is still made of plastic and really what's more important in a car? How a dashboard feels (who feels a dashboard anyway?) or what it can do at what cost? Not saying I disagree - I think the Audi is a far better car. Just there are two sides to everything and as much as I like the Audi I would struggle to justify paying pretty much double for it.

@crankCINEMA

10 жыл бұрын

Well let me tell you, in australia (a country where people love oversteer and rarely need awd) the HSV GTS which is similar to this VXR8 has 430kw and costs around $96,000. the audi rs6 has 412kw and costs around $270,000. I really love audis, however paying about $175,000 more to get the nice interior etc if all I wanted was a monster engine does seem a bit ridiculous (in australia). Also its worth noting that the car here tested is a very old model, that interior is from 2006 so really its unfair to compare that interior to the latest RS6 interior. The newer commodore interior is no audi but its a big improvement from the one seen in this video. And yes I know this review is in the uk but this car obviously isn't really for the uk is it, so thats why I am talking about the market it is built for where it actually does make sense.

@thatmatty231guy

7 жыл бұрын

Exactly, perfectly said... Holdens are pigs in my opinion and im not saying that from no experience.

So much hate for the holden, need I remind you which is almost half the price and more fun? It's also more practical, sounds so much better and not cheaply made like all you seem to think. It's not a vauxhall, It's an Australian made HSV which are reknown for their reliability. Although If i was choosing between them, I'd have to choose the RS6.

@Floridos

10 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry, but the audi is the only car of these two where you can drive twice the distance of the vxr8 in great luxory... But happely the people with the money know that they are better off in the audi.

@SIMcityplayer2002

10 жыл бұрын

It is not more practical than the RS6, the boot is smaller and there is less space in the back. Just because it's an Audi doesn't mean it's unpractical. And while the Audi's steering does not have a lot of feel, GTS has lifeless steering which is just to light, and it still is nowhere near as luxurious than the Audi. But I still think it's a great fun car.

@tailgunner1223

Жыл бұрын

Audis are gay. Everyone knows this

Which one made the driver break out in a laugh constantly? That’s all you need to know 😂

That VXR front grill does remind me BMW cars.

@Cr3act

10 жыл бұрын

lol in what way?

@Laurynas_S

10 жыл бұрын

Cr3act For me, probably because its shaped quite similar when you look at it from the front.

@harryc266

9 жыл бұрын

Wut u blind...

@DaveFuucck

9 жыл бұрын

I think the Holden is much more muscular whereas the BMW is more sharp and fierce

@SIMcityplayer2002

8 жыл бұрын

It reminds me of the E90/E91/E92 3-Series, but no other BMW looks even close.

Cant wait for the Jag estate

Do you guys have a lap board? All the cars and their times round the track?

Audi all the way

look how much the seat flexes under his weight

The vrx8 does 0-100 in 4.4s, the RS6 in 3.7s. The audi is also much faster around the track and is by light years better built.

@mosakoe_0693

9 жыл бұрын

My cla 45 AMG does 4.5s

@ImplicitSilence

8 жыл бұрын

+Tomislav Zvonimir And price difference?

Gearboxes eat themselves... had one on a ramp ..dismantle the whole front end to drop engine and geabox..... dismantle lots of engine to get starter motor out to get at flex plate bolts out...remove gearbox and send to specialist, help owner to a seat and lend him a pen for the remortgage application. Holden...check the oil and top up the windscreen washers go and have some fun

would love to see a real driver have a go at that Vauxhall

You guys should repeat the first car's time at the end. My memory isn't that good. Otherwise another great video.

I don't get, how somebody would the take the VXR8 over the RS6.

@Ioanides001

10 жыл бұрын

SYNCOPY Probably not though. Both are far too expensive (to buy, to run, insure etc) for the normal boffin. I'd say The VXR is for a very very selective audience who wants something very specific and willing to pay for it.

@richardharrold9736

10 жыл бұрын

Simply put, it's far more entertaining and faster in a straight line - a cut-price E63 AMG. Besides, you can tune 'em up well beyond 1000hp without breaking anything - you can't say that of the Audi.

@wagoneer11

10 жыл бұрын

Real men don't drive VAG tat

@TheMadkent

10 жыл бұрын

RS6 is more than double the price tag here in Aus - Maths makes the decision very easy. I'd rather go a second hand RS4 wagon any day of the week if it were me

@MrYoumitube

10 жыл бұрын

If they were die hard Holden/Vauxhal fans, who have no class, have no concern of petrol bills, have no concern of build quality..practically hooners!

Why don't you guys post the times for both cars together. I never remember.

Just look at those two cars and you can't buy nothing different then the RS6. Its one of the most beatiful cars out there. Just love that car!

Id take the holden all the time thx

Best summed up by the expression on his face. Audi...Meh.... HSV... Gimme more...weeee...

I'm responding to the post regarding is it worth the extra price for luxury. I've driven lots of cars in the past and when it comes to luxury, nothing compares when it's your daily car. The luxury part of the car makes you feel special and if you haven't experience driving one, you wouldn't know what I mean. I have a B8 Audi Avant with all the luxury add ons and has a selective suspension. I got a same loaner car but a base model when I was getting maintenance done from Audi. The car felt like a completely different car. It was so disappointing to drive and couldn't wait to get my car back. Imo, if you can afford the luxury one, get it because you won't be disappointed with the money you spent.

Like how the drivers seat in vxr looks like fixed in with rubber bands

"Just not quite the fun you expect to have" - I reckon 0.1% of owners of these types are cars subject their 2+ ton tankers / boats to trackdays. Expensive fun when a tank is drained in a few laps, alongside your new 19/20 inch tyres. VXR8 is the Chevy SS in some other markets BTW.

Wow I wish we got the vxr8 avant in the usa

As Jeremy Clarkson once said: He who shall be last, shall be sideways and smiling. I don't care about lap times honestly, it's all about having fun and the VXR8 is better in that regard. A big american V8 in an autralian Wagon and a six-speed manual for a lot cheaper than that boring (in comparaison to the VXR8, because the RS6 is far from a dull car) RS6, I'm taking the Vauxhall any day. Now bring it to Canada and badge it as a Buick or a Chevy.

RS6, easy easy choice

Excellent Review. I will take the Vauxhall. Looks better and sounds better. Probably cheaper to maintain and repair in the long run than the techno-gismo electrickeried Audi.

When you anounce the time of the second car in comparison, please put that in contrast to the first car.

Love the RS6. The only Audi (apart from the ur Quattro) I've ever wanted to own.

i'm dieing to see the rs6 or the rs7 against the m6 grand coupe

Of course the so called Vaxhall is an Australian Commodore bread for racing any the Bathurst track

@rickybartels3941

Жыл бұрын

And bred for body roll

Bloody hell, its not a Vauxhall. Its a Holden VE Commodore, or in this case, a Clubsport Tourer. The VE is an old car now, and the VF took its place mid last year. Anyone know when you guys in the UK will get that?

Its simply the price , you can pick these up in Australia for $60000 that Audi is over $200000

Not a Monaro!

What a dumb track battle, saying that the Australian built station wagon will be going for years after that German estate lol, has had its day, we build cars that last here in Australia and we have some of the toughest road conditions going.

@ryan-ls5de

7 жыл бұрын

Chris B ya because hsv g1s goming

Brave cameraman at 6:49

so meat pie vs a sirloin steak what would you choose ?

@THE-BUNKEN-DRUM

3 жыл бұрын

A kebab ;-)

There's only one V8, a Holden V8.

@L1TTLEH0RN666

3 жыл бұрын

There hasn't been a holden V8 in 22 years

VXR8 looks like it belongs on a Council Estate..

@aaronjones8770

10 жыл бұрын

It must be cool to have a VXR8 parked outside your house...

Hell of a driver

If RS6 were available in North America, I'd trade my Cayenne TT for it in a heartbeat. The only hot wagon we get is E63, and it's badly compromised by stiff suspension and tire profile too thin for roads in California

evo you cant be serious?

I like the RS6 (the old V10 model) but the VXR8 is just more fun. If you want a fast luxury car then get the Audi, if you want raw fun and to be different then get the VXR8.

How can you even compare RS6 to that ?!

That in-car audio is annoying. Are you guys using an external mic?

Drifting with all 4 wheels is more badass.

@gamegouge3335

10 жыл бұрын

It's also shit because it ends after 5 seconds and never goes wrong.

@TheEryk03

10 жыл бұрын

FROOB202 Still better than RWD, but consumes all 4 tires.

1:51 thought that was the rumble strip, then I thought holy shit he's gonna wreck, then I was like shut up and drive..

RS6 vs R8 or Precision vs Poo?

RS6

Who the hell goes to track days with a huge wagon? There are for road users, a track battle is absolutely non-sense.

Audi RS6 all day! I don't need your Merc Class S or BMW 7 series..... (actually, I would make an exception for the BMW 6 series grand coupé c: )

the new evo 10 is in production with 350 plus KWs the old EVO 10 had only 220kws

the rs6 is a super car. 130 000 dollars, 560 hp, 516 t, 0-60mph in 3.9s, 190 mph top speed.

Lap times would've been closer if both cars had fresh brakes, the VXR's are obviously going to suffer more in comparison with the Audi's given the extra power and how they're probably from a Vauxhall Cavalier

I would choose the RS6 over the Vauxhall, even if the Vauxhall did cost 25 pence.

@lieshtmeiser5542

7 жыл бұрын

ROFL? Hyperbole is fun, eh?

AUDI is the better CAR

Shouldve been a drag race

An estate VXR8? Since when? That'll be badass!!

@CurtisLSA

3 жыл бұрын

They are called sportswagon here in Australia where they are built. Many of them around i love wagons.

@Rambogner

2 жыл бұрын

Only 1 in Europe!

@jayharris5460

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rambogner Wonder what it'll take me to buy it? That is just outta this world.

So on the whole, learn to handle a manual and you will find the VXR8 (depending which country you are in) is a better option, value for money and "NO" paddle tip tronic shit does NOT count as manual!

Audi

If you get an RS6, why would you not get the RS6 plus? Same with the R8, RS7, S8, RS4 and RS5

Don't disrespect the king RS6 by comparing it to such cars.

@richardharrold9736

10 жыл бұрын

King of understeer...

@roozbehbey

10 жыл бұрын

Seek help ;)

i own this car and belive me it is amazing.

Audi rs6 all the way!!! Do a drag race !!

I dont know why but I love estate cars lmao

Body roll from hell!

If you want a good German fast saloon E63 amg it's as simple as that

@TheEryk03

10 жыл бұрын

If you want the best German fast saloon RS6 it's as simple as that

VXR8 Monaro? What?

@francistaylor1822

7 жыл бұрын

He got that wrong. Monaro is the 2 door car, and is an older model was only made for four years.

I don't get why Journalists continue to keep driving AWD or FWD cars like they're RWD then complain about understeer. smh

The Holden would last longer .i have a ve gts love it

@CurtisLSA

3 жыл бұрын

VF GTS is better ! love mine

@rickybartels3941

Жыл бұрын

Both buckets of shit

i just wished it was called holden and not vauxhall...

1:51 BFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTT!!!

Audi please

Maybe I should read the other comments first lol