Jaguar XKR-S v Mercedes SL63 AMG | evo TRACK BATTLE
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Jethro takes the Jaguar XKR-S and the Mercedes SL63 AMG for a spin on the Bedford track for our next installment of evo TRACK BATTLES- Look out for our next video on the McLaren P1 on Friday!
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Jaguars are not for beating the best lap time, they are built to put one massive smile on your face. Jaguars are made to entertain and clearly, by looking at your face, you bloody well enjoyed it.
XKR-S for me, easily. It may be a worse car but just look at it. That's enough for me.
@TheFlyingPineapple
10 жыл бұрын
It looks hideous in my opinion, especially in that blue. I mean what the hell were they thinking with that front end? A standard XKR looks so much better.
@NikoBell12
10 жыл бұрын
TheFlyingPineapple The XKRS looks nice but I prefer the more refined look of the XKR.
@v_alexiadis
10 жыл бұрын
TheFlyingPineapple We just have different tastes because I love that colour. Oh and btw I'd get the coupe version.
@TheFlyingPineapple
10 жыл бұрын
ianiva It's not really the colour I dislike, it's the way it highlights that piece of recessed bodywork under the oval grill. If they hadn't recessed that piece, I think it would have looked great.
I'm a Merc CL 500 owner and even I can admit that Jaguar XK is much better looking than the current SL. Ian Callum is easily the best designer in the car world right now. F-Type Coupe looks SPECTACULAR.
That looked like the most fun he has ever had in a car, in the jag
Gotta know how to handle that Jag.It's giving you the power to win if you really know how to use it
I suspect the traction control (TC) was turned off on the XKRS (probably on both cars) - and you need exceptional skill to pilot the Jaguar around a circuit without this control. I had some race tuition with Palmer Racing who used the less powerful XKR. With the TC engaged, it was impossible to spin the car (or hang out the tail) - no matter how much power you put down and where you were pointing the wheel. The TC on the XKR(S) inter-acts with the steering, the suspension, the throttle and (I think) the differential - at lightning speed, correcting things to give maximum performance. My (and my instructor's) lap times were a lot faster with the TC engaged. BTW - it's the Jag for me - has more soul...
@thepizzabicycle
6 ай бұрын
This guy sucks at driving. I just commented on it but I have to reiterate that he is a FOOL of a driver. This boy of a driver is an embarrassment...... I can also drift my XKR-S if I want to. if I'm actually pushing the car I leave the E-Diff on and it RIPS in the canyon. I have stayed directly behind a Gallardo Superleggera, F430, C6Z06 ect. this guy has no idea how to drive
2022 and this vid is still shot like artwork 8 years already
@user-vc2qo6gl1k
3 ай бұрын
Its 2024 - still agree!!
Put better tires on that xkrs and it will destroy the merc
@yazidghanem6458
5 жыл бұрын
nope
Would be interested to see lap times with traction control on..
@CBTalon97
3 жыл бұрын
That'd be interesting to see considering he was pedaling it the whole time in the Jag.
Jag!! No question!! Nothing looks better than going round a corner in ur own tire smoke!!
Best car journalist along with Chris Harris
that jag is catchy by all means . i would go for that XKR-S all day
Every one will look at the XKR-S there's a Mercedes every corner..
Great review as always Jethro !!! Can't wait for some track beasts next episode : D
These videos are much more the sort of thing the Evo demographic is looking for guys! Much better than the NFS stuff previously. Well done!!
Should have tried the Jag with traction control for the fast lap.
Awesome! I can't wait McLaren P1!
Man that French Racing Blue is so mint!
EVO Team, first of all thanks for these amazing videos. Second: can you put it i to context with the other cars you test and rank them all together in some kind of short overview? Even supershort, but at least like this we would know.. Thx. O
Whenever I see this Jag I can't help but think how much better it would look in British Racing Green
I'd take the Jag! That paint and hell cat looks... Beautiful!
Please do a New updated 2013 evora S manual vs Exige S. Could be very fun to watch:)!
Which gets us to a conclusion that modern car companies don't bother tuning the chassis to make car stable and balanced, but simply put a clever stability control to do all the stuff for you.
Jethro, you're my favorite EVO presenter! And you have a badass name.
If you will do drift laps prior to a fast lap, it's not surprising you got so much oversteer!
heart says jaguar xkr-s, brain says sl63 amg. brain also says both of these cars are top notch and that if any of the people on here bashing either one got the keys to the car the next day, they'd be pretty chaffed. i know i would, so lets just appreciate these fine pieces of engineering hey
///AMG
Which is better for long-term reliability? I have heard horror stories of the merc's suspension needing $6000+ repairs after 60,000 miles
Old school evo videos are the best
I wonder whats the name of that music clip at the end of the video
They should have put the Mercedes against the Jag F-type
at 7:35 which video of the sls black series is that?
Beautiful driving John, as I saw a dragrace that car spin at the finish at ~180 and the comentator exclamed that, anyway Nice drifting Jethro
Power cars , but i prefer Jaguar , that sound
Things that go vroom...
would have rather had the camera on the outside watching the slides
Where those flames coming out of the SL's exhaust? at 3:19
Does the XKR-S have some kind of an electric locking diff (if yes, doesn't seem to lock up/work that well) or a limited slip diff (needs more of it)? Those one wheel wonder out of the corner -slides look and must feel terrible. Looks like a pain in the ass to drive quickly. In my opinion a RWD car is much more fun to drive when you have to work a bit to get it sideways.
XK...the original 4.2 is better in itself as a GT long distance cruiser.....and that is that...in my view
California T all day every day. Great video, Jethro!
Drifting around on the in-lap surely doesn't help traction on the "fast" lap.
both nice cars, but the one that made this guy smile the most was the jaguar. i think it would be better in every day use.
@OrionsWarriorUK
10 жыл бұрын
and the jag looks better in my opinion.
Would the result have been the same if the XKR-S coupe had been driven? Surely having the additional flexibility of the convertible shell wouldn't help the situation... Also, I've read in other threads that the TC on the Jag is very good, and makes it considerably easier to handle, without stifling the performance. Would like to see the coupe tested and with and without the TC engaged. Regardless, very entertaining video, and great driving. There's no doubt that the "Drop Dead Gorgeous" Jag is a beautiful design. And given that I don't drive on a race track every day, I think I know which I'd choose if I was in the enviable position to have to make such a choice for a daily driver :-) Especially for the price.
Since this vid is about lapping, why don't you leave the drifting until AFTER so you have decent tyres for the lap ?!
I don't care about lap times. the jag looks so fun to drive
Wow, this is the only person who doesn't like the jag. Everyone else gave it top reviews.
Not to mention the SL63 is more refined, stiffer body structure and looks better. I drove the SL550 and that car in itself is a beast!
Why didn't you take SL65?
@garyzhang5099
6 жыл бұрын
NEJKO077 why people always assume 65 is faster than 63?
You know what would make evo really good? If they fired every presenter and just kept Jethro. Easily the best reporter behind Chris Harris in my opinion.
One each please...😎
Xkr-s for the win!
Kind of funny that german cars seem to always win against non-german cars. Just shows how much attention they pay to detailed engineering.
@zatarra681
10 жыл бұрын
they actually are the better cars. just look at this jag interior
i remember a time when an SL was a beautiful, light and elegant machine. now it's just a tasteless lump. same goes for jaguar, but to a lesser extent
@MotorsportMonkey
10 жыл бұрын
Light? When has ANY Merc ever been light weight? Ok ok so an SLS is fairly light for what it is (does) blah blah blah... But SL's have always been a beautiful big heavy man hammer in my mind. Same for the jaguar XK, there not lightweight sports cars, that's not really the point of either of them.
@tadam25
10 жыл бұрын
MotorsportMonkey I think he is talking about the 300sl, in which case he has a point, but you do too. Mercedes might have made the 300sl but the majority of their cars are massive and fairly heavy, although they are working towards making lighter cars.
@AShaw-bd4fy
10 жыл бұрын
Couldn't have said it better.
@reyrob
10 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely spot on! Whats the point of so much power if you cannot drive the damn thing? You're better off getting a standard SL500 or a XK. They look better and have way enough power to cruise around very fast.
@AShaw-bd4fy
10 жыл бұрын
MotorsportMonkey SL originally stood for "sport lightweight" its just looks like an absolute pudding now, and that Jag looks downright awful in that XKRS guise.
How can you see the track with the sun in your eyes? I become totally blind when it happens xD
Jaguar looks better. Sounds better. More unique. More fun. Less up tight. Less stuck up. Less serious. I'd take the Jaguar. In fact. I'd take any Jaguar over any of their German rivals. Have at me German car Nazis!
@ferrariscuderia4290
10 жыл бұрын
Dont forget that all contemporary Jags have "German Nazi" genes as they are entirely based on a Ford platform, so in essence you are paying 3-4 times the amount you normally would for a Mondeo when you get a Jag, plus the horrid quality.
@R.o.Ro.
10 жыл бұрын
Ferrari Scuderia i only liked your comment because of your name ! :D
@thedumbselfdestruct9814
10 жыл бұрын
Racist people don't love cars. They pretend to.
@Narrowcros
10 жыл бұрын
I'am not German but I would pay double the asking price for the SL, the ugly ass Jaq is so bad that even Jaguar stopped making them.
@krocialblack
10 жыл бұрын
Narrowc ross To each his own man. Everyone has a different preference in things, and I respect your opinion. I think the SL looks like a fat and ugly old mans car. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Realize, as these cars come off lease and value comes down to where middle class can afford it we visit these videos for the first time. Also the demographic who watch these videos have always been us. So here I am, buying a used XKR.....
With a good throttle control you can keep any car in a straight lane. Cars compared by a heavy footed driver 🤷
I own the Merc. It's okay but doesn't turn enough heads. I may have to upgrade to something more exotic / sexy.
.......doesnt the XK have more seats and the structure is heavier? F-type will be a better comparison because they r both 2 seater convertible. Maybe wait until they have a R for convertible. right now V8S is only against the SL550. R is the Couper version which looks fantastic..but not fair if comparing to SL because F-type Coupe doesnt have that extra weight carrying the engine.
I couldn't care less about track times as I'd likely never drive on one. Between the two, for sheer looks, the Jag wins. Toss the Merc in the trash.
I like the Merc AMG, but that Jag's Supercharged V8 sounds great!!!
Jag is mental!😀
Hey guys! That's not even the Performance package SL63! It goes to 564 HP and 660+ Torque! And you get better suspension and brakes! And what a car it is this!
BMW M6 Convertible was watching..........
@gianhet
10 жыл бұрын
Chris Harris did a versus of a SL 63 AMG convertible against a M6 coupe, and the SL won, because it was sportier, and felt lighter, quicker ..
@IsiahHD
10 жыл бұрын
gianhet Well, he said that he'll take the M6, but spend a whole year regreting not picking the SL.
@IsiahHD
10 жыл бұрын
gianhet Well, he said that he'll take the M6, but spend a whole year regreting not picking the SL.
@BANNERTM
10 жыл бұрын
idh0530 if he prefer m6, it doesn't mean that m6 is winner.
Jaguar only make eye candy , Mercedes make vans , trucks and taxi cabs ! But some good sports cars
Yes, the XKRS is pretty bad on the track. I've driven it on both track and road. On the road, it still likes to go side ways if you are not careful with trottle
Turn off the ABC system in the SL, the under steer will reduce, widening the sweet spot of balance, although it will increase body roll
@Augustus222
10 жыл бұрын
Can you turn it of?
Eh, he hit the nail on the head when he asked "What is this car all about?" - if you want to go sideways all the time you can much more cheaply than the XKR-S. Buy a Holden or something
Well that was quite disappointing. I was hoping for some decent cars lurking under the hooligan image but they really are one trick ponies. The Merc looks very contrived on that suspension and looks like a pain to drive. The Jag is just silly. All that power and a chassis that could probably cope with half of it.
the SL63 is so god damn ugly. That XKR-S, now that's something
@Smart1529
9 жыл бұрын
No, I wouldn't call the SL ugly but it's not that pretty compared to the previous SL and the Jaguar
Add Toyo r888r s, drop in tune and pulley, transforms the car. 12.4 1/4 mile stock (my time slip), 11.9 after aforementioned bolt ons (my time slip) God, I love grip and boost. lol
I would still buy the Jag.
Well not a Mercedes Fan and this jag is dated, though both cars are really nice. Think I would opt for something else - F-type perhaps, much better looking than both of those. And this SL63 AMG in this battle should be better than the XKR-S, it´s a nearly brand new car. Btw Is the XKR not coming to end production cycle?.
Why not the coupe, as that has much less roll? Why not the XKR-SGT, which has even less roll? Why does this driver claim to be able to demonstrate "as good as it gets" driving - does anyone know who he is?
I love SL.
Jaguar made some nice cars that where almost up with the german competition a few years ago, but know they show their age. They still looks quite good, but the engines are not the best, the navigation units are really bad in jags etc...
I've driven an XK-RS in damp conditions, full throttle and the back doesn't fly off the track like this. Don't turn all the traction control off and it flys around with just a little kick at the back. There's no way I'd pay for that Merc over the Jag, it's just not interesting at all.
So if neither car is made for the track or at home on one, why are we watching them being compared there?
@meady200
10 жыл бұрын
Maybe cos making things do stuff they weren't designed to do is not only very fun, but often revealing!
@Kreider811
10 жыл бұрын
So then maybe they should do an off road comparison!! :)
😊 Mercedes for me ofcourse Fantastic car and quality❤❤❤❤🇳🇴
Gotta b the Jaaaaag
all though ill never drive the SL63 pushing the paddle a moment before I want to change gear would be so anoying
Both cars need wider and lower profile tires. To much power for tires.
I dunno, Mercedes these days are are where BMW was 5-8 years ago in terms of chassis and suspension development, well and Jaguar was where Mercedes was about 10 years ago in terms of car 'concept' per se, with its big Supercharged V8 and lack of chassis finesse, where big power and torque is more important than all out handling (BMW). Sometimes the 'lairy-er' car is more fun tho.
Jag please
The question is how many people goes on a track with a car like this ?
@lothar52
6 жыл бұрын
Steevenoo haha.. I want even take my XKRS on the highway!! It’s so beautiful why muck it up... a track?! Hell to the no!!
I personally love the AMG that's my choice out of the two
SL 63 AMG
jag for me.
This guy is back here? After he hit a curb with that ferrari?
Jaguar best!!!
I'd have the jaaaaaaaaag.
4 years too late, but correct me if I'm wrong, I think the coupe version of the Jag would set a better time....
boring image with the cam at the front of the cars ...
XKR-S, easily. I've always looked at the SL's to be devoid of any distinguishing traits. It's one of those cars that will be forgotten and outdated in a matter of years. Assuming these cars are in the $100-150,000 range, I'd buy a used Ferrari California or a save up a bit for a '14 Porsche 911 Turbo instead.
Jethro best driver on EVO ?
i think its his driving
Pound foot of torque. Did you mean feet? Common British error.
SL looks far better tho, and that AMG sound is just impeccable
What's the point of driving a non track specific car on a track just to say it sucks?
Ferrari California T anyone?