2017 Nissan GT-R vs Audi RS6 Avant Performance | PH Battle | PistonHeads
MY2017 Nissan GT-R does its best to fight off the Audi RS6 Performance at Blyton Park. Is the motorway bully going to upend Godzilla on track? Subscribe to PistonHeads KZread channel here: bit.ly/2aKvdVO
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Absolutely loved this, what a beast the RS6 is
"It's not a lot different in weight, about 300kg heavier..." Um, even at this end of the scale, 300kg is A LOT of weight.
@seb.
7 жыл бұрын
Mikeado66 but it's only 200kg heavier, they misread their own spec sheet
@SmallBlogV8
7 жыл бұрын
Either way that's still as much weight as a big motorbike.
@seb.
7 жыл бұрын
Mikeado66 Big motorbike? not really that would be in the 250kg easy here 200kg is just 2 decent sized adults passenger
@MyRealName
7 жыл бұрын
just? it makes a huge difference
@tiziano316
7 жыл бұрын
No, Mikeado66 is right...Nissan GTR weight is around 1700 Kg and Audi RS6 is 2000 Kg! so It's about 300 kg more...a lot of difference!
History dictates that anyone can get into a GTR and be fast on track Except James. James can't outrun a station wagon
@lea2666
7 жыл бұрын
So youre an idiot, thats what youre saying, right?
If I were in a position to buy either cars I would've picked the Audi even before this video :-)
@8a8eh919
7 жыл бұрын
why not gtr?
@VHjykfUuYu
7 жыл бұрын
why not not gtr?
@Hussain14000
7 жыл бұрын
same
@freibier
7 жыл бұрын
Priorities, I guess. The GT-R may be quicker, but the RS6 is overall a much nicer car to drive in, nearly as quick and more practical. The only reasons to go for the GT-R are a.) if all you are interested in is doing races from traffic light to traffic light (good luck with the warranty after using launch control too often) or b.) prefer the looks / online bragging rights "I drive a GT-R!". Or, of course, if you are rich enough and can just afford a GT-R as a 2nd or 3rd car. Not even the price is a point in the GT-R's favour anymore, it got more and more expensive in recent years. E.g. in Germany, a bog standard GT-R costs 100k Euros, a base RS6 costs 111k Euros. When you can afford to buy one of these cars, that price difference is totally unimportant.
@07wrxtr1
7 жыл бұрын
I wonder which is more reliable in years 4-10 of ownership? or does this type of buyer even keep them that long? Lease the Audi, buy the GTR?
not much weight difference, only 300 kg? what a joke
@Nutty-sd6nl
7 жыл бұрын
phil van Gorp yeh what's this guy smoking lol
Ok i own a GT-R and i can see from the video it`s not in any of the race modes as none of the red lights are on...the suspension is in comfort mode.and gearbox in normal road use mode...
@johndessire399
7 жыл бұрын
jason lewis This test only proves how incompetent drivers they are.
@2009skyline
7 жыл бұрын
jason lewis I agree with you .. of course, they won't tell us that, thou.
so this test showed and proved nothing at all, it was a pointless test
@thainaaier
7 жыл бұрын
nope, it's not !!! ... I would consider buying either of these cars.... so the test is welcome !!!
I'm sorry I did not make my comment clearer, I was referring to the costs of the "Extras" on the Audi, some of these are standard on much cheaper cars. They all have the same working parts inside and are often made by the same supplier to the manufacturers.
From listening to how much throttle was being applied in either cars during entering and exiting bends... i felt the GTR wasn't even being pushed close to the limits compared to the RS6... maybe have time comparisons with one driver eliminating more variables to compare apples with apples.
Driven a few RS6 & 7s and wasn't surprised by this result. I would be interested to see how the non performance would manage but with carbon ceramics.
Had the previous model RS6, in between GTRs. Got rid of RS6 because it carried way too much mass into bends and under braking. GTRs are sublime, but could be tempted by new model RS6 as it's a more practical car, it ain't comfortable sitting in the back of the GTR, but that could be down to my driving :). Also, Audi were terrible with customer service. The fancy pants suspension valve failed on mine (as it seemed to on lots of them, but Audi refused to replace it FOC even though it's obviously a design flaw - hope they've fixed it as the issue had been going on for a while, meh...).
Don't forget the significant weight difference between drivers, there's at least another 150kg there.
Brilliant review ! PH stepping up their game ! Whats the name of the song in the beginning ??
probably the worst 'car comparison/review' video I ever seen.
this just proves that the person driving the gtr can't bloody drive A car almost a second quicker at 0 to 60 a much higher top speed by almost 30mph can't out run a rs6 please you should feel a shamed of your self's for posting this Ps I'm an audi fan
Can You do a drag race of these two? Or even better a drag race between the GTR and the RS7 Performance!!!
"Not a big difference in weight; just 300 kilos" heheh that was funny. Lovely page though guys, I hope it gets as competitive as the forum
Bro, when you drive a gtr for performance you got to flip on the racing switches.. they are off, you are driving on comfort mode.
I don't know why they were so surprised that the RS6 was keeping up, as it has over 600hp it bloody should do, lol
RS6 avant is the ultimate super cars killer
@anton2417
6 жыл бұрын
Hussain14000 name a supercar it beats, I'll be waiting... Top Speed around 305kmh, 0-60 3.5 - 3.8 sec and its not a great track car either...
@JUFFAIR101
5 жыл бұрын
Hangman's Noose it beats the GTR-NSX
Very good and funny videos bring a great sense of entertainment!
Fantastic, that Audi is greedily overpriced but my God does it ever go!
@JurgenDX
7 жыл бұрын
Not really overpriced imo, it's only 5K more than the GTR, but it's 2x the car :D
@bobwas4
7 жыл бұрын
Pete Davis I love both these cars but the quality in the Audi is unparalleled. So 5k on top is not over priced!
@thainaaier
7 жыл бұрын
In my country the Datsun GTR cost 30% more than the Audi RS6.
@MD-uu5nt
7 жыл бұрын
bobwas4 what do you mean by quality? Audi are amongst the most unreliable car brands on the market.
@JurgenDX
7 жыл бұрын
***** The way it rides, the materials, everything feels more well put together and feels a lot more solid.
Well the new GT-R is supposedly gone a bit soft, still, perhaps it would have looked otherwise if the drivers switched place...
I don't think GTR owners are used to seeing old Saab estates in the rear view mirror either. :-D
The era of manufacturers trying to kill godzilla has begun... The GTR has the soul no other car has. It will live on. just wait untill they show you the 2020 gtr
flacjacket, I have been in both and priced up an RS6, the options are very expensive
Lots of fun even on this flat track..!! Both cars seem to need much larger sway bars
Sorry Drake, 300kg is a massive weight difference.
*01:26* “Not a lot of difference in weight, it’s about 300KG heavier” *WHAT!!?* 300KG is a *MASSIVE* difference
Nothing is wrong with the Nissan GTR, it's the driver behind the wheel that's the issue.
now put 2 proper drivers in them.. 300kgs not much difference indeed.
Both weight the same as a small moon. Completely uninterested.
driver of the GTR has official taken the title of "captain slow", don't blame the car for not being able to pull away from the audi
Its probably better to compare the rs5 to the gtr or even rs4
worst review ever they can not drive and they don't know ther ecar specs wot a joke
I'm a MX-5 owner and my brother the cardiologist is an Audi RS sedan buyer. Drove his RS (before he traded it in recently) and I can say it is truly amazing. All those fancy electronics etc. overcome the fact that it is unbalanced and should be a crappy handling car (under the laws of physics). The Audi is a doctor's car, the Miata is poor man's sports car. Comparison is even more extreme than this video. Of course, I'd rather have the Miata.
I would take the RS6 over the GTR any day... no matter what :P
I don't want to sound like a typical fanboy and bash the driver of the GT-R, but hearing 'I've over done' it a few times is hardly reassuring.
tough choice in these 2 but i cant cope with the depreciation of the gtr and crappy interior. The audi rs6 is superior for me. Looking for a high spec 2015 facelift model myself
For a wagon it's pretty impressive!
Now let Top Gear UK (James May, Jeremy Clarkson and Richard Hammond) do the test and that's when you can decide which one to buy XD
no conclusion?
Good review but terrible drivers. Perhaps the Audi is a bit faster in straight line but terrible on a track compared to the GTR. Winner: GTR
"not that much difference in weight, about 300kg" what are you talking about? You are an amateur.
No drag race?
This guy can't drive, no way in hell an RS6 can keep up with a GT-R 570 on a track. This car puts 458 Italia type of laptimes because its AWD system is way more advanced and it's lighter than the Audi wagon.
@wasuprobleemjoh
7 жыл бұрын
Indeed, while the audi is just another understeering bitch
@mddah01
7 жыл бұрын
I agree - I found on fairly technical tracks that a 2016 RS6 couldn't get close to my MY 2013 GTR. The understeer really held the Audi back. Its possible the 2017 model is better but that weight and obvious body roll suggests otherwise. Anyone who has put a lot of track time in a GTR knows just how hard you can hammer it in ways that are not possible with most cars.
@wasuprobleemjoh
7 жыл бұрын
you own a GTR? :o But indeed, the AWD on the GTR is fenominal, the main difference is that it's bassically an RWD with the possibility to have up to 50% of the power to the front wheels. So you got all the extra grip off an 4WD, but the agility off an RWD
@mddah01
7 жыл бұрын
I have owned 2 R35 GTRs: a 2009 GTR that I traded for a 2013 GTR and I have driven many tracks in North America, and year round on snow on winter tires. I agree that the car is very RWD-biased but the computers correct that very quickly and aggressive opposite lock can lead to real conflict. You have to learn to trust this car - it does look after you.
@lea2666
7 жыл бұрын
Damn, so much ass pain! Butthurt Gtr fanboys is the proof of the Rs6 gets to your nerves... :D Its an estate car! It carries 5 people and a dog and has more power than the GTR. Live with it!
The sound of the videos is not good
Dan Trent sounds like Allen Partridge
@LivingLifeSlower
7 жыл бұрын
Dion Widdowson "Smell my cheese!"
If it was me who get to decide which one i would rather have, I would pick the RS6 because it can take me and my mates to the pub or take the kids to the school with ease
LOVE my S7!
I love the rs6
An older model Black Edition GTR would've destroyed this Audi!
@user-hj2se6qr6f
7 жыл бұрын
good! a sports car destroy a family sedan like car! what an achievement
@anton2417
6 жыл бұрын
卓尧杜 Around a track the GT-R both beat the RS7 and the RS6... Around the nurburgring it would probably beat the V10 plus
@JUFFAIR101
5 жыл бұрын
Hangman's Noose bullshit
Nissan and Audi: hummm let me think about it....
It looks like the audi was getting through a set of tyres per lap as well.
what if gtr was V8tt or even V10tt, its a beast now, Audi dont have a chance.
@Arh3mist
7 жыл бұрын
If Gtr was with V10 Twin turbo engine, it weight and weight distribution would go to hell. V6 is optimum in this car.
Nissan, this is what I'd like for the r36 gtr.. Curb weight of 3750lbs, nothing more... Hp and torque of 610bhp, 570 ft tq.. Enough with the v6 engine, time to switch to a v8 4.5l engine. I know it may not have the fancy technology again, but please go back to your roots of a manual transmission. Top speed should be around 208mph, with a 0-60 in about 3.2 sec.
So. This audi has done faster laps than a GTR then? I wonder what time this audi has done at the nurburgring? It should be faster than the GTR.
Nearly TWO TONNES! Hahaha
‘Audi fast lane bully tactics’ 😅😂🤣😅😂🤣🚗🚙
For every1 that says "the GTR is better" Yes it is. But thats becuz of the fac that it is a sport car and the rs 6 not
In term of performance GTR is still the best.
Audi 😍
they should've released a rs6 saloon....... in fact i am asking, please will you release a RS6 Saloon Audi.....pritty please!!!!
@AlbertArrabal
7 жыл бұрын
There's the RS7 for that...
@7omm
7 жыл бұрын
the RS7 is no where near a nice to look at from the front, and the back is terrible...
@longtailgt
7 жыл бұрын
Both the RS6 and RS7 are hideous from the front. there's no difference. The only way to have an RS6 saloon is to buy an S6 and then swap the RS6 engine and other bits.
Not much of a weight difference, 300 kg's.LOL, are you serious?
rs6 all the way!
I wish the USA would get there heads out of there ass's and demand the RS6 Avant, E63 wagon should not be the only game in town do they still do the CLS63 shooting brake?
this is upgraded audi vs normal gtr
@tidierpenny
5 жыл бұрын
How?
RS6 all day long...
RS6 IS performance com on nismo vs performance
the regular rs6 has 552bhp not 585
@Johnson09641
7 жыл бұрын
Yeh I think he's confused with the old RS6
@gthug6904
6 жыл бұрын
Rohan W the RS6 Performance has 605BHP pal
il vero paragone sarebbe con l'rs5. ...
Ummm yeah I bought a Audi rs6 today
the new gtr 2017 well I am not all that impressed with it it's seem as Nissan as toned it down abit the interior is nice it as a nice look about it but performance wise I'm not that impressed one bit for a big audi estate to keep up with the new gtr that says it all well done to the audi estate driver and that is a 2ton car there you have it thanks for a lovely video and thanks KZread
@TheJoeMB
7 жыл бұрын
But that Audi has monster power and torque even if it weighs 2 tonnes. I think it's a fair test, the GT-R clearly lightly and way more agile. The Audi is a sledge hammer.
@oksanasavulyak9234
7 жыл бұрын
Carlton Slaine rr
@oliverkvalytiller1223
7 жыл бұрын
Heard about comma and period?
300 kg is very mich Differend!!!!!!!!!! Audi is a perfekt car for 2000 -2100 kg. Is Thema best
more reliable and harder ,by audi rs6 performance
RS6 top.
That was a laugh 😂
LEAN
not cars to compare to
In my country the Datsun GTR has become more expensive that the RS6 ... GTR not that bargain that it used to be, hence becoming pointless (at least where I am from !!!) .... I think the GTR fanboys have driven up the GTR price. Same goes for Subaru STI and WRX... everyone want the STI with the old primitive EJ25T engine, but the WRX with the newer FA20DIT engine is 35% cheaper and not slower at all. Same goes for BMW M2 and M240i.... huge price difference, but almost negligable difference in performance..... a skilled driver in the M240i would piss over a slightly less skilled driver in an M2.... better to spend the money honing your skills on track.... again the fanboys drove the M2 price up (above list price), leaving more sensible folk to snap up the M240i at below cost sometimes.
@Kaisuke971
7 жыл бұрын
The difference between the M240i and the M2 is more than the speed. With the M2 you get an LSD, you don't on the M240i. You also get 19 wheels, leather interior as standard, a full bodykit, a better suspension setup, a louder exhaust and bigger brakes. The M2 is even a bargain when you look at what i'd cost to give similar specs to an M240i, cars are more than just horsepower and torque. Plus you can just use an Alpha-N tune on the M2 for under a grand and get M4 power so... Plus comparing different drivers makes no sense, because an experienced pilot will outpace you in a 488 GTB with just something like a Mégane 275 RS Trophy or a Leon Cupra 290 anyway.
@Kaisuke971
7 жыл бұрын
JimB You like Audi so i shouldn't expect you to get what is driving feel. Because the M2 is not only faster everywhere than an M240i but it also feels more engaging because of a couple of little differences that ad up. The M3 vs D3 test by Autocar was stupid and biased, look at the comments. And the Alpina didn't "piss all over the M3", he used the only section where he knew the D3 would have the advantage because of the torque and AWD, and even disabled the TC (no one drives with TC off in normal driving witht he M3). AWD gives you traction, but then you lose engagement... Oh wait you're an Audi fan you can't get that either.
@thainaaier
7 жыл бұрын
Kaisuke971 I like some Audis, not all of them ... I like some BMWs, not all of them... ditto with Mercedes and Subaru ... owned cars from each brand already. I am a fanboy of no manufacturer ... sure as hell hate Audi with a DSG gearbox (reliability issues over 60K Miles), hate the new Q2 as well. Love that Alpina D3, would love an M240i with X-Drive ... Love my very small Audi S1 with a Manual Transmission or an RS7 with a torque Converter Automatic (it's not a DSG).... Love my pre-2006 Subaru WRX STI, hate all the new ones... love the Mercedes A45, but hate the rest of them. I am into very specific cars, not manufacturers.
rs6 superwagon
Gоoood
Nice try Audi. I wouldnt call a V8 turbocharged 600bhp a family car ;) It looks like one but it isn't under the bonnet and it's not what audi is trying to target. It actually has more power and more torque yet can't beat the GTR on the track. It is 300kg heavier but the power and torque difference should make it up. It's just how the GTR has been designed to outperform it's rivals. It is well balanced and picks up very well. I have driven one on a track and what it says on the paper is one thing and what it actually does on the track is another thing.
i love the RS6, My dream car.
I bought Audi over gtr ,biggest mistake of my life in 4000 miles two sets of discs ,suspension drops to one side ,tappety noise from engine,what a piece of shit,save yourself the trouble buy a gtr
@MohammedAli-qv5my
7 жыл бұрын
Rs6
@gamarayburstwillpoweriwish6926
7 жыл бұрын
Mohammed Ali bullshit you liing bitch. proove it :)
@nightarrow7473
7 жыл бұрын
yeah really, some people have a really bad habit of lying in everything. I bought this i bought that....
@JD0509
7 жыл бұрын
Mohammed Ali Please stop this bullshit. If this really happened then probably you dnt knw how to drive a car
@lea2666
7 жыл бұрын
You bought a Prius, thats what you bought... :D
bueeno
Just with the Audio, the guy in the GTR has no clue how to get the GTR into its power band ... The GTR driver was running out of talent ... simply ...
i think this is proof GTRs aren't all driver assists. Reality is: The Nissan will work The Audi will break The Nissan will turn heads The Audi wont
@jtron7127
7 жыл бұрын
The Audi RS6 is comfortable and practical. The Nissan feels cheap
@zino4030
7 жыл бұрын
bassicuk1986 the Audi looks cooler than the GTR
@lea2666
7 жыл бұрын
LOLOLOL GTR fanboys are like your nick, basic. If you ever felt what it is to sit in a RS6 you would know how many heads it turns. And Audi will break? LOLOLOLOL
ok maybe it's time to turn to ford
300 not a lot :D :D :D :DDDD
Rs6 all day long, gtr slow
300kg...... hahaha its keeping up with a ricer, take 300 off the audi see you later nissan