As an American, it is such a strange thing to see a KZread comment section on EVs that isn't filled with hate filled screeds by individuals whose grasp of the English language was not particularly influenced by higher education.

@stefanweilhartner4415

18 күн бұрын

i guess it's because 6 and 8 cylinders are more expensive in europe. and 4 cylinders do not have a great sound. switching to EVs is not a huge problem regarding the loss of sound. the second thing, probably more important. europeans do not drive very long distance. this is where EVs have their downside. and infrastructure is much better than in the US. all in all, europe leads probably two years when it comes to EV adoption compared to the US. and now after solar energy is getting that cheap, there is an additional benefit for people who can make use of solar compared to expensive gas.

@ZoomZoomMX3

17 күн бұрын

But that's still up to each driver driving at 100 kph well over the range any these ev trucks can handle

@jsanders100

15 күн бұрын

Ha ha, that’s a polite way to describe them.

The milk trucks used to be electric back in the 70’s when we had milk deliveries.

@solentbum

12 күн бұрын

I remember when they were horse drawn, the pollution was good for the roses!

As someone living next to a road that goes up a hill: the single best thing about EV trucks would be the lowered sound polution. Revving trucks is only beaten by motorcycles when it comes to sound pollution.

@chrishar110

23 күн бұрын

A fully loaded lorry makes half to one mile per gallon when it accelarates on first gear.

I've been driving heavy trucks for 13 years now and Electricity is a great idea for Local trucking for sure, like 200-300km per day. The instant torque w/o the need of a transmission would be such a relief. We have a lot of Electric School busses here now, that would just be a derivative of that.

@TheBrucifer

25 күн бұрын

It will come for longer distance trucking in less than 5 years too.

@ZoomZoomMX3

17 күн бұрын

But that's still up to each driver driving at 100 kph well over the range any these ev trucks can handle

@st-ex8506

17 күн бұрын

@@ZoomZoomMX3 In Europe, the number of hours a driver is allowed at the wheel, and the prevalent speed limits and traffic conditions, limit the range of any long-haul truck to around 700 km (430 miles) per day, max! That is within the range of the Tesla Semi, even pulling a full load, for example. And, at the end of the max 9 driving hour day, there are 15 hours to recharge the battery... more than enough on even a car-size DC charger!

@adrianthoroughgood1191

16 күн бұрын

​@@st-ex8506 and if the driver takes their required break at a truck charging stop then there will be range to spare even in winter!

@st-ex8506

16 күн бұрын

@@adrianthoroughgood1191 Absolutely! And there is no need for "Megachargers" at truck stops. V3 Superchargers, installed in such a way to charge trucks, are all that is needed. Only companies running their trucks two shifts a day will need some more powerful chargers at their bases.

I would appreciate quiet bin trucks, that's huge.

@Antody

26 күн бұрын

They would still be noisy because of all the equipment banging against the bins and whatnot.

@examinerian

26 күн бұрын

The loudest thing on the one trialled here was a squeaky hydraulic ram that needed greasing. The next loudest was the chatter from the collection team... 😁

@ma40

24 күн бұрын

They’ve already been successfully deployed in Nottingham, and the staff don’t want to go back to diesel.

@douglaskinloch6272

22 күн бұрын

Allied Sweepers in Falkirk were working on small electric street sweepers in 2007, for that very reason. Sadly way too early for the market.

@JohnnyMotel99

21 күн бұрын

What has flies and four wheels? A bin lorry.

I'm convinced that battery technology and price will make trucks much more affordable within a few years.

Quiet bin trucks and delivery vans are great for residential areas. There's also the benefit of no exhaust fumes while the vehicle is left idling. What's not to like.

@irokpe6977

16 күн бұрын

You won't like the range tho.

@marvinsamuels1237

16 күн бұрын

@@irokpe6977 you will if as the route planner you know your vehicle can cover the route on a single charge.

@citynomad13

2 күн бұрын

@@irokpe6977 you haven't seen the video, have you...

My company has 40 lorries. We make around 15-20k miles every day and use 4-6000 liters diesel every day. Only 6-10 of the trucks make more than 200-250 miles every day on all shifts. That could save thousands every day. They can pay for one lorry every one or two months and still save money from the services and maintenance.

@gilesbrown9361

19 күн бұрын

The challenge would be to do that change before the competition did it and then undercut your prices

@chrishar110

18 күн бұрын

@@gilesbrown9361 I don't think that the money that they will save will go to undercut the prices. I think that managers will get a big bonus because they saved that money, even bigger than what they saved.

@joecummings1260

17 күн бұрын

15-20k miles every day.., You would need like a 4 megawatt electric service to support charging for that kind of daily mileage. Probably cost about 100 million to install the charging, if you are lucky and in a location where there is that much electrical capacity available.

@chrishar110

17 күн бұрын

@@joecummings1260 We are talking for a company that makes millions. The 350 thousand square feet warehouse cost 30 millions and imagine how many solar panels can be installed on the the roof.

@chrishar110

17 күн бұрын

@@joecummings1260 We are talking for a company that makes millions, the warehouse that I work is a 30 million, 300,000 square feet building. I think that you can fit a lot of solar panels on that roof. I think that they have more than enough power to charge the 50-100 electric, with lithium battery forklifts 2-3 times every day.

The first ones can do the shorter routes. And later when batteries improve, it can run the rest.

@DavidKnowles0

18 күн бұрын

In the UK these vehicles probably can handle every route in the UK, may be with some modifications of some of the routes themselves.

Great video! And yes Tom, Electric lorries are delivering!👍🤩 I saw a German Trucker/KZreadr driving the Volvo e-lorry long distance in Germany and he was enjoying it so much, that he concluded that je can't wait until the supporting infrastructure is there and they got more affordable! So an actual trucker said he would love to switch, because it was more fun to drive plus all the other benefits!

As a HGV driver that has an electric car, I really can’t wait to try out an electric lorry

We have at least one electric bin lorry in Oxford and it's simply fantastic - fitting in well with the fully electric fleet of DPD and Royal Mail delivery vehicles, increasing numbers of fully electric buses and even some electric open-top tourist buses! The transformation in noise and emissions is noticeable. We need more of these!

A BRILLIANT video, Thank You. I think I enjoyed it as much as you enjoyed making it! Thank you!

As someone who consistently remembers to put the bins out I'm really looking forward to not being woken up by them at 6am 😂

@mathewritchie

19 күн бұрын

You are still asleep at 6 am?I am at work then,must be nice to be retired.

@JoshuaStringfellow1

19 күн бұрын

@@mathewritchie While I'm sure it's nice to be retired, I'm not, my job just starts at 9...like a lot of jobs do.

@st-ex8506

17 күн бұрын

@@mathewritchie Think of the guys who finish their shift at 12 midnight, and get in bed at 1 am. They would sure appreciate some more quiet at 6!

Light checking button, 👍🏻 "We haven't got the infrastructure!"... I was not thinking about it, I just had a big grin on my face that Nicola was not able to get her words out when starting out with the big wheel. She looked so excited. Oh wait, what about one of these as a fuel delivery truck, the irony 😂 Well done Tom 👏🏻 "Electric trucks could deliver" LMAO 🤣😂

@examinerian

26 күн бұрын

Re: an eHGV delivering petrol or diesel: the irony will have to wait a bit longer as the current regs for fuel delivery are so out of date that it's actually illegal to pull a fuel tanker with a BEV unit. It's just one of the things that a group of industry bodies and government is working to change!

@markbennett6658

26 күн бұрын

It’ll probably end up delivering batteries? That would be more poetic than ironic!

@chrishar110

23 күн бұрын

@@markbennett6658 Diesel trucks deliver the car batteries now. Ironic, eh?

@markbennett6658

22 күн бұрын

@@chrishar110 I said ‘end up’ as in future tense. You miss the point!

It gets the ball rolling, then after the first 1000 subsidies the govt reviews the scheme. They did the same for cars, and that's now stopped here in the UK, but currently continue doing the same for trucks and vans as it will make more difference to a wider group of people - one electric bin truck affects a whole neighbourhood.

They are easier to drive which should help with recruitment.

@chrishar110

23 күн бұрын

Do you think that diesel lorries are harder to drive? The last time I saw a lorry with manual transmision was 10-12 years ago and it was the only one in the fleet and replaced rhe same year. You just put it on D, and go. You don't even have to engage or release the hand brake. Just get in, turn the key (or push a button) push another button and go.

@James_Ryan

23 күн бұрын

@@chrishar110 Good to know. Shows how long since I drove one... 🤣

1:32 Thank you! This should get mentioned way more often! It’s about the environment in total, of course, but it’s also about our cities and making it more liveable. Buses, lorries and bin lorries being electric will be amazing!

6mpg vs a car at 35mpg car.... So the battery size almost equates. If is massively obvious that certain lorries should be electric.

Another advantage of using cameras instead of mirrors, is that cameras don't block your view of incoming traffic at junctions such as roundabouts .

@DavidKnowles0

18 күн бұрын

Another is that you can then start putting things in like automated Bike and pedestrian recognition system in place that will stop the truck if it at risk of hitting one.

Nicola is spot on about the biggest benefits of EVs - cleaner, quieter streets. I live on a main road and for us, and especially others living on even busier roads, this will, eventually, make a profound difference. If we can start generating much more renewable energy and get the grid up to speed, the future will look pretty rosy.

A great opportunity missed! How can you do a segment on bin lorries that are constantly stopping and not mention the benefits of regen braking?

@TheJoeT81

26 күн бұрын

So much regen in stop-start! Interestingly the machinery in the back uses more juice than one would expect. I hear that where the Lunaz bin lorry struggled.

@dogbreath6974

17 күн бұрын

They did mention about regen, did you watch all of it?.

Another cracking video. Informative and entertaining. Top job team 😀👍

I work in logistics. It would be better to have batteries built into all trailers which could be used as a top up to the truck battery. When a driver picks up a trailer it could be fully charged and combined with the batteries on the truck it would extent the distance that can travel. Putting 500 kg of batteries under the floor of a trailer would reduce load capacity but not all trailers are loaded to their total weight capacity. This could work on 40 foot trailers but with rigid trucks that would not be a solution. As a side note. . . Electric vehicles have been used in warehouses for decades and the solution to running an electric forklift or powered pallet truck or any electric vehicle, 24/7 is battery swapping. We've been doing it for decades. Logistics are already experienced with electric vehicles in their warehouses. Extending this experience to delivery vehicles may be challenging but not impossible.

What huge fun and a glorious preview. Firstly Mercedes, not my favourite manufacturer, just went up about ten notches in my view. Secondly this is just the sort of thing which distinguishes Electrifying from other car review channels. Finally I hope I never have to drive any of the vehicles previewed; I want a Brabus or a Mini.

@chrishar110

23 күн бұрын

I still remember how many seconds I lost in my life waiting to choose a gear at the roundabouts. I am happier the last 4 years working for a company that has only Volvos

Naked and nothing going on around the back. The story of my life 😒🤣

⚡ This is excellent! ⚡ These will also dramatically reduce noise pollution

Amazing, need to introduce this asap

Gotta be a safety benefit as well if you can hear what’s going on the other side of the lorry without the idling diesel

I would love for pence per mile and fuel/energy per year costs to be a standard part of auto reviews. Also please start doing kWh per 100km comparisons for their petrol and diesel equivalents. Petrol and diesel is just a form of energy storage that is then turned into motion.

"My tongue's out, I'm concentrating" said Nicola, I found very amusing, but I am envious, I'd love a taste of that sort of Driving experience... another great review :-)

Nicola having the time of her life 😂

Good to see some progress with trucks. I've always thought this was going to be a bit of a stumbling block for the adoption to electric. We have electric buses now in our city and they have dropped the noise significantly. There are still quite a few ICE buses going about and you really notice the noise and smell of them compared to EV buses.

At 1:30 you said you can’t deny the impact of zero emissions. I have people who say ‘with adblue the exhaust is cleaner than when it came into the engine. Can’t make this stuff up.

@WindyM

20 күн бұрын

True, but still polluting CO² though.

@ObiePaddles

20 күн бұрын

@@WindyM ?

I live in Canada my uncle was a trucker he would and truckers still do 12 hours a day especially on the lobg hauls which most here and in USA are ... Thats about a 1000 kilometers a day at least but many days they do more

Great video, thanks

The quoted ranges, loaded or empty? What is the payload capacity compared with a diesel truck? For light weight loads I can see this working if volume capacity is less than weight capacity but, with heavy loads, not so sure. In my opinion it's horses for courses.

Nicola! Brilliant driving, better than most truckers I know! But they are on the road :) Seriously though, if these vehicle can do 4.5 hours driving and charge while having a tacho break that is awesome. There is infrastructure in Norway or Sweden that do have HGV's charging, separate from cars, so why can't it be here? Great episode, this is here and now, the cost of servicing and fuel will off set the initial pricing. Pricing should come down as more are built or bought. Let's have long haulage vehicles going to hubs and then short haulage vehicles going into towns and cities, I hated going into London in my HGV but was happy trunking around the UK. Great content, keep up the good work Electrifying!! :)

Huh. I hadn't thought of that mandated driving time and break schedule. Stopping for 45 minutes ever 4.5 hours is actually quite substantial. And I'm almost kinda shocked at how slow these fast charge. With big batteries (and I understand these are actually several small batteries), the potential for fast charging is huge. After all, the Silverado EV has a battery that is half the size of the full size truck/lorry, but charges at more than twice the rate. First of all, even if you put two of those batteries in, the weight is probably quite manageable overall, considering the Silverado packs it all into a much smaller package. The Silverado takes 1 hour and 15 minutes to fill up all 200+ kWh completely, which means you can get WELL over 50% in 45 minutes (it charges much faster up to 30%). And interestingly, it's NOT using 800V architecture. It's using a similar split battery 400V system just like these trucks are, but with some engineering that allows it to put them in series while charging to access much faster speeds. Still not at 0->100% in 45 minutes, but potentially 0>80%? Getting pretty close to that necessary range - and that's at 350kw. It'd be nice to avoid having to install megawatt chargers everywhere (fast charging at that rate are going to be higher and less efficient).

Thank you.

Great episode guys thanks, loving the future that’s going to be quiet and lots less smelly 😁👍

My concern with the megawatt charging would be how many can you install in one place, because there will be more than one articulated truck pulling in to recharge at once, therefore you'll need some sort of onsite battery store

@chrishar110

23 күн бұрын

A couple of wind turbines, a few hundreds of solar panels on the roof of the building and a few container size batteries can do the job easily. They cost a lot, but pay themselves in a couple of years.

Trucking naked. Is there any other way for your first time 😂

Great review ,I wish they'd do it here in Central Canada where i live we have the 2nd cheapest electricity in Canada and its all water generated, the garbage collecting trucks here noisy as hell and we all have alley ways and with those trucks you just have shown us with the rear steering on them would be a great option for them here, and all our trucks are separate, household waste, then recycled materials , and yard waste during the spring,summer and fall months and i have had to install a camera on the front of my garage to keep them from hitting the corner of it and my approach shattering the concrete on the corner from the weight of the trucks, are only issue is the extreme winters we have for 6 months is temps that are regularly -25 -30 Celsius ,batteries wouldn't last long at all, here is to hoping the new battery chemistry is a viable solution for these issues 👍

What’s the difference in range when they fully loaded in the case of then hauling cargos?

@Electrifyingcom

24 күн бұрын

The quoted range figures are with half payload.

UK speeds are 50mph (non-motorway, I believe) and 50mph on other roads. Some places say 60mph on dual carriageways, but I think not. EU is restricted to 56mph, so I expect many trucks have alternative restriction kit for international deliveries.

@AllInVehicleInspections

14 күн бұрын

40mph on single carriageway, 50 on dual carriageway and 60 on motorway, but most trucks are limited to 56mph

@oliver90owner

14 күн бұрын

@@AllInVehicleInspections Don’t think so. Do check up on the single carriageway. I am sure it has been 50mph for several years (since 2015?). In fact, Scotland was still 40mph apart from they raised the limit on the A9(?)because the road haulage crew warned of a boycott of northern Scotland if it wasn’t changed from 40mph. Current-day Scotland speed limits for HGVs over 7.5 tonnes may have changed. I do think it is 50mph on non-motorway dual carriageways but I could be corrected on that one.

@AllInVehicleInspections

13 күн бұрын

@oliver90owner my bad, 50, 60 and 60, except Scotland, 40, 50, 60

11:25 the company I work for plans to take five Mercedes eActros 600 into service by the end of 2024, early 2025. Since I only have two years of work left until I retire, I have applied and maybe will be on the list for a e600

@adrianthoroughgood1191

16 күн бұрын

Hope you get one! They ought to bear in mind the other drivers will have their turn later!

Good afternoon Tom and Nicola

These trucks would work well in Jamaica. Good review.

An PR people, going green is as a good business decision. I suspect supermarkets will be the first to buy these on mass, probably start later this year or next.

Mercedes really got some great Trucks there!

I would've loved to be a fly in the cabin with Nicola driving these lorries. I'd like to see the humongous chargers for these beasts: they must crank out huge amounts of DC power to fill up those batteries! I've never even sat in a hauler like these, but my impression is that the drivers' biggest challenge is how to turn corners with those long tails behind them, cutting across several lanes in the process. Let's see you two take some corners next time!

Cheers

Electric is great but... 7:23 let's be honest, cam mirrors are not good for HGVs as there is no depth / distance perception, it's like looking with one eye. I cannot get the same accuracy as when I have a real mirror. 8:35 that's why we always drive with a two man crew, so that you can drive 20 hours continuous and the limit is only the drivers' bladder! Fine for small islands, but not good for continental long-distance routes as the truck has to stop for at least 9 hours daily rests.

I would love to see an RV conversion.

Nicola is an electrifying EV - she brings excitement :)

You didn't explicitly mention it but remember fleet operators don't look just at sticker price they look at TCO and that would include servicing, maintenance, tyres, fuel, longevity, reliability, sustainability over the life of the vehicle which for them could be 10yrs. For those that complain they can't hear them so miss the pickup put their bins out the night before like the rest of us.

@DavidKnowles0

18 күн бұрын

An when it come to rubbish trucks, it also political, if enough people demand councils to electrify their rigs, they will find the money to do it.

Looking good….always good but if these are 3x price of ICE then I see the shipped contents going £up, shame it’s more stuff with overseas badges on….😢

It's a pity that Lunaz Applied Technologies went into administration. They started a business that converted diesel bin lorries to battery and fully refurbished the cab etc.

Electric trucks will be even a much bigger story than cars, as trucks usually drive high mileage the savings (both for environment and cost savings) are HUGE. Range will go up constantly as batteries evolve and it's about time to stop burning diesel, time to go electric :-)

How many trucks do you see going at a maximum of 56 mph? In my experience damned few. 😮

@AuntieBuddie

26 күн бұрын

That's why it's a maximum. Often cars drivers slow them down esp if they drive to close and can't be seen. 56mph is not a target.

@hughM9

26 күн бұрын

Ever been up & down the English motorways? 😉

@kimmeddies6689

24 күн бұрын

Most are doing more

@chrishar110

23 күн бұрын

@@kimmeddies6689 These have Irish plates or Irish drivers, LOL.

No Tesla Semi?:P Everybody loves trucks.

Slowest hill route lap ever? 😅

Imagine one with vtg you could power your house for a month 😊👍 and reference dustbin collection, your dustbin is a robotic and a sensor picks up when the truck is around and puts it out front Simples 😂😊👍

Good argument against solar, charging at night

So what about the electricity How's it made I wonder What about the hydraulics how do they work what about battery how long to degrade how much to charge it when we get a power cut which we do then what What about winter running in the freezing fog with heating headlights wipers flashing beacons the extra weight on the already unloved rds The list goes on

Norway are ready. But, the trucking industry needs to get serius. Norway are ready to deploy chargers for trucks that can charge 1MW. Here someone needs to make a standard. If Tesla contacted the government in Norway, something could be done about it. Or, others. The trucks are not made for charging on car infrastructures.

DAM Good video. More like this Thanks

Nicola looks good driving a Wagon 😆

Tesla Semi already beat MB to the punch. Pepsi Co. already has a fleet of Tesla Semis.

All sound good. But is not the elephant in the room is "where is the charging infrastructure". You regually see lorries parking in slip road on motorway service stations how are they going to charge there lorries. Lorries park in lay-bys on country roads by me. Are they going to put charging station there. The lad from Mercedes talks about 800V 1Mw chargers It going to take a very long time to put all that in place . just look on the issues of suppling charging stations for cars.

Our council have a fleet of electric bin trucks, yes they are quiet, the rubbish going in the back is the noisy part 😂😂 they haven't got any electric recycling trucks yet tho 🙄

It would certainly be interesting to see how one of those electric bin wagons would cope with a battery fire like we've seen with EV's and electric bikes

@cru3r5h

20 күн бұрын

I’ve never heard of EV’s having a battery fire, I assume like any piece of technology there are isolated examples of failures. Do you have evidence of this being a substantial problem?

@cru3r5h

18 күн бұрын

@@valleyofiron125thanks. Yes and I am aware of all that - my new thing is to ask the potential trolls to provide evidence to support their bold, and usually false, statements. As you point out there is a critical difference between fire risk, in terms of initiation, and firefighting requirements

@DavidKnowles0

18 күн бұрын

That why they move to Lithium iron phosphate, which is chemically incapable of catching fire. An are cheaper. An work better in winter.

@parshakamarsh

18 күн бұрын

@@cru3r5h I don't appreciate being called a troll if that comment was aimed at me, I was asking a genuine question about battery safety. Just recently there have been a couple of major fires IN the UK in multi story car parks causing major damage which has been put down to battery failure in an EV. That's enough to make me question their safety, which I think is quite reasonable

@cru3r5h

18 күн бұрын

@@parshakamarsh and apologies, I did say potential troll. But please look at the evidence, EV traction batteries do not randomly catch fire and are statistically safer than current technologies. No one questions driving large bombs around on are road, which is effectively what a tanker full of hydrocarbons is. And as others have pointed out new battery chemistry has further reduced or removed an already extremely low risk.

A future with non-diesel trucks is attractive. Nu fumes, less noise.

@hughM9

26 күн бұрын

That’s what’s really needed if we’re to decarbonise transport. Cars are actually marginal

The only figure that counts is payload efficiency. As for recharging a truck with solar power, good luck with that one.

1:14 eTcetera!

But that's still up to each driver driving at 100 kph well over the range any these ev trucks can handle

Mercedes should consider battery swapping instead of charging for the really big truck batteries.

How heavy are they? I’m assuming the battery pack alone is somewhere close to 10K lbs. Won’t it eat into the amount they’re rated to haul?

@chrishar110

23 күн бұрын

Only 15% of the lorries in UK pull more than 80% of the max payload. 30% of the total milleage is with empty trucks.

@bikeaddictbp

18 күн бұрын

If they are near 160 Wh/kg (about where LFP should be) then each battery module will weigh about 700 kg, so 2800 kg (6000 lbs) for the one with 4 modules. But there's no diesel engine, and those big diesel engines are heavy, so the total weight penalty shouldn't be all that bad.

Bin trucks and local deliveries, yep fab. Long range lorries? Ehhh. Is it more eco than putting 400kWh of lithium in 7 cars instead? I'm not sure.

@4literv6

22 күн бұрын

7 cars driven an average of 12,000 miles a year at 25+mpg or 1 tesla/other large ev semi used by say Pepsi and saving 8-10,000 gallons of diesel fuel a year at 7#per gallon in just fuel weight alone. I've done the math many times 1 semi makes more sense enviormentally speaking.

Is Electrifying on Patreon?

Who is the Mother Trucker?

90 miles of range, that is useless for a long distance trucker. Don't tell me it takes 4 hours to charge up. As for bin EV lorries that was tried in Nottingham and failed. In fact the company who supplied them is now out of business.

@chrishar110

23 күн бұрын

A bin lorry doesn't make 90 miles every day. You don't need more. Do the bin lorries have 300 gallon diesel tanks? So why should they have bigger battery? Dennis still makes these lorries, they are not out of business, they may have some financial issues but developing an electric lorry is not cheap. Don't forget, they have to fight with huge companies that make diesel engines.

Any plans to talk to Vauxhall once their FCEV van trials are under way? 👍

There are so many videos 'against' electric transport and I really don't understand why. The transition can't come fast enough for me. There is NOTHING to be against.

"Could they fit in"? Nope! At least not into a country with more than 1 time zone.

The first white truck. There is a rattle in the cabin. Very, very annoying.

My spicy comments are scotch bonnet and jalapeno.

@paulbuckingham15

26 күн бұрын

Carolina Reaper.

It’s like people think bin lorries just go house to house. Hint - when they are full they drive to the landfill site to empty. That’s a forty mile round trip and happens more than once per shift where I live.

@karlwest437

26 күн бұрын

I'm sure whoever is in charge of buying and running them has considered that

@kimmeddies6689

24 күн бұрын

@@karlwest437I doubt it if they are inept as our council

@chrishar110

23 күн бұрын

The driver and workers still HAVE to have a break. Forty miles away? do they tip them to another county?

@bordersw1239

23 күн бұрын

@@chrishar110 I presume English isn’t your first language?

@chrishar110

23 күн бұрын

@@bordersw1239 Yes, it's not, I speak 3 more languages and my first one is Greek. How many can you speak?

The EU mandated driver breaks are why EV trucks will work in Europe first.

Well, Mercedes better up their game and offer lower price BEV trucks fast

At least double to 3x the price of a ICE truck…..erm….

It's obvious you're not a trucker when you say a rigid is easier to drive than an artic, try it in a city centre and see the difference. 12 point turn anyone 🤣 Also a modern bin lorry will be seeing 11-15mpg, my 28tonne empty Scania artic does 7mpg

@Electrifyingcom

18 күн бұрын

The 9mpg figure came from a local authority study. Mercedes think about 8mpg is right.

@DavidKnowles0

18 күн бұрын

Most probably aren't modern vehicles. Also MPG degrades over the life time of the vehicle.

If we can electrify trucking it would make us all oxygen breathers happy.Diesel trucking makes way more pollution than cars. Electric powertrain is so much better.

EV trucks are a massive need in cities, the noise and smoke that diesels make is soooo annoying

250 miles distance for a electric truck is rubbish. Most Class 2 trucks cover more than this per day. The load weight and weather temperature will reduce this distance to.

@Simon-dm8zv

21 күн бұрын

You can charge them you know...

@Simon-dm8zv

18 күн бұрын

@@valleyofiron125 😧

@DavidKnowles0

18 күн бұрын

Yes but you can't do that without a mandatory 45 minutes rest. An given that UK employment law also make clear that a employee can expect a 1hr break after 4hrs of work. Then no one in the UK is doing more than 250 miles without being a charger and able to charge the vehicle.

There is no place for hydrogen in transport. It will always be more expensive and more complicated for reasons innovation can't fix.

I have 3x 15-minute breaks at farms. I collect milk.

@chrishar110

23 күн бұрын

You can't have 3 X 15 min breaks. It's either one 15 and one 30 mins or a 45 one.

I love my EV car, but my £300K truck has to be constantly on the move to make money. I do 11 hour shift, then night driver does the same. NO chance of any charging 😢

@gibroon4418

25 күн бұрын

You do 11 hours without a break?

I collect milk. We can drive 'Out of Scope'. We don't follow EU driving law.