This is a great example of what most cars on the road should be. Stop trying to get the general public to think they need a fast 0-60 time. Put the time money and effort into making cars as easy to live with as possible.

@PetrolPed

23 күн бұрын

I agree 👍

@whocares264

21 күн бұрын

I agree, i have had evs for five years a leased tesla 3 a leased kia soul and now i own a bmw i3 rex to stop wasting money on leasing, i will never use public charging i will never plan a journey around a charger, yep no hunt the charger for me but i love evs so the i3 or the mazda is fine for me , the downside of the mazda, why put the petrol engine in the front, i don't want to hear it , the i3 has a noisy engine engine but i can't hear it as it is burried under the rear floor...

@renitur2292

13 күн бұрын

The second raw space is a killer for many

@cottagegymfun

13 күн бұрын

The total range with both motors fully topped off, is only 230 miles. I don't get this one. No for me.

@gregdee9085

12 күн бұрын

@@PetrolPed you "agree" yet one of your content tittles is "not a performance car". Would have a content tittle on a Porsche 911 review be "not a package delivery car" ?? or "not a family car"? nope, because you and your posting peers are all essentially the same.. "must have fast car".. not unlike a 17 year old. Not to mention someone demonstrating zero sense of style themselves, commenting on car styling...

I am 12000 miles into the ownership of a 2018 BMW i3 REX. Same idea but built on a carbon fibre and aluminium chassis and with 120 to 150 miles of pure plug in range. I’ve done several 300 mile days and one trip over 500 miles with no issues and no range anxiety. It’s a great idea for your first electric car. My commute now costs me 95p as opposed to £5 and I only ever use the range extender 650cc engine on long trips.

@PetrolPed

23 күн бұрын

Nice. Ahead of its time 👌

@JD2ndcity

23 күн бұрын

The i3 still hasn't been surpassed and should have been used as the design philosophy for future BMW EVs rather than forcing the EV issue into combustion engine designs. The i3 with improved battery tech and a 250 miles range would be 👌🏻👌🏻

@mikereeder4337

23 күн бұрын

I have 2 of these! So my wife and I don’t fight for the keys! Imagine how good the I3 would be with a more modern battery. Of course the reality is that they were just way too expensive to build. Shame.

@al1356

23 күн бұрын

Hi Stephen can you confirm what the range is on a single charge and using the engine please? I have looked at these before but discounted them because of the maximum range.

@stephenholford5220

23 күн бұрын

@@al1356 BMW have three battery sizes and in the UK only the smaller two were available with the range extender. Mine is the middle battery size and offers a minimum of 120 miles in winter on pure electric and up to 150 miles in Summer. You can also play with the modes and push for more mileage if needed

Two advantages to all electric drive train is ( as you mentioned) eliminate the complexity and cost of a gearbox Secondly the petrol engine runs at its most efficient because it only has to run at its most efficient speed.

@KTPurdy

14 күн бұрын

bingo

@elisfsharri

11 күн бұрын

One more advantage : In the future the petrol engine (generator) could be replaced with one that runs on biofuels or hydrogen without needing to touch the drivetrain at all.

@flattire707

9 күн бұрын

Except it is not efficient. It gets terrible cost per mile. My Honda Civic gets better mileage.

@KTPurdy

9 күн бұрын

@@flattire707 How so? First 30+ miles can be all electric.

@geoffmansfield2668

7 күн бұрын

@@KTPurdy I see where you are coming from, but . . . Human nature (laziness) now comes into play. I plug in once a week to cover 5x30 miles. This Mazda needs to be plugged in nightly. After a while people don’t bother, and just treat it like a petrol car.

This and the I3 Rex are where I want the hybrids to be. I live in rural Canada and would want something that has about a 300 KM all electric range and then the ability to have another 150 KM available through gas if needed. These are getting close to what I hope to see.

This type of EV makes the most sense to me, especially given the current state of the charging infrastructure in the US.

@brainfloss9710

11 күн бұрын

Is this available in the US? I don't see it on Mazda's website.

Mazda is kind of what Honda were back in the 90's when it comes to cleaver ideas. Here in New Zealand you can buy that car in a dark metallic red ( think raspberry ) with a silver roof. Looks great. However, 1800kg. I remember when I raced my series 1 Rx7 it was under 1000kg. Modern cars are heavy.

Do you know why french guys (like me) love this KZread channel ? 1. ALWAYS interesting content 2. The driver speaks slowly (excellent for french speaking people) 3. The 'P' of the channel logo is made of the french flag colors ('bleu' 'blanc' 'rouge') To summarize: j'adore cette chaîne KZread 👍

@PetrolPed

13 күн бұрын

And France is may favourite country, I used to live in Paris and when I did I spoke pretty good French !

@markdrummond7

6 күн бұрын

Suicide doors, no thanks.

What a cracking car! No stupid iPad screens. Proper dash. A gear knob as well. And a rotary engine as well. Delightful. Ticks all the boxes.

@PetrolPed

23 күн бұрын

Cheers 👍

@USUG0

23 күн бұрын

... more like, the worst of both worlds. That car is inefficient both as an EV and as a hybrid ...

@Mizzkan

23 күн бұрын

Yes it ticks all the wrong boxes

@Wacky_Races

23 күн бұрын

@@USUG0 you are so missing the point of this car

@USUG0

23 күн бұрын

@@Wacky_Races its only point is just using a rotary with no benefit at all. That will cost more to run the pretty much every other phev in its segment

I was with Mazda for nearly 5 years and when the normal MX30 came out it didn’t do very well. When this came out I sold more of these in 3 months than I sold EV 30’s the whole time I was there! It’s a great car! I own a CX30 myself. Had a Mazda 3 also! The CX5 is probably one of the best looking, reliable and affordable SUV’s on the market! Great cars! Mazda are really overlooked in many ways! I have more spec in my mid range CX30 than a high spec X2 with no packs on it! Drives nicer too!! Love it!! 🥰

@peterbonnez

13 күн бұрын

Another Mazda man here, nearly 30 years with them now retired. I have a CX-5 a CX-30 and 3 MX-5's in the family. This MX-30 seems an ideal compromise for those who don't need a huge car with a heavy battery.

At last, a manufacturer that has used their technology to produce an efficient, compact, practical car rather than a 0-60 in 2 seconds monster. Great car, well done Mazda and great review, well done you PP.

@PetrolPed

23 күн бұрын

Indeed 👍

@whocares264

21 күн бұрын

i guess this is a knock at tesla, but tesla is far more efficient than this...

@PHADAVIES

21 күн бұрын

Practical? 4.4 metres long and no room for adults to sit in the rear..

@Rjhs001

21 күн бұрын

@@PHADAVIES It's a fair point, but I'm still reasonably impressed.

@whocares264

3 күн бұрын

you do relise a tesla is more efficient, more practical than this mazda...

phev fan here, I am well pleased with this video, cheers

@PetrolPed

8 күн бұрын

My pleasure 👍

Excellent review. I drive a 23 plate Mazda CX-30 Skyactiv-X MHEV with a petrol engine. It has a supercharger, but in the same way it’s not for performance, but economy and regularly returns 52+ mpg. It’s also slightly more powerful and has more torque than the Skyactiv-G MHEV engine, which doesn’t have the supercharger. I love what Mazda have done with the MX-30 rotary engine and Bev drivetrain. They are one of the few manufacturers recognising pure BEVs are not the whole answer or the perfect solution. Whilst they have no tailpipe emissions, they still negatively impact the environment across the whole lifecycle. NB. Land Rover have addressed the slow electric front seat issue for access to 2nd row passengers on the Defender 90 by introducing a manual tilt and slide front passenger seat on the latest model ;)

@PetrolPed

23 күн бұрын

👍

@clewis5220

21 күн бұрын

Like the look of c-30 x but I hear fuel tank is only 40L ? Is that correct thanks

@salochinthims

20 күн бұрын

According to the specs, it’s got a 51 litre tank, circa 11.2 gallons in old money. It costs me around £70 to fill up from empty, based on £1.40 for a litre of unleaded, so sounds about right.

Well done to Mazda for holding their faith in the rotary engine; it looks like we are finally entering the rotary era.

@whocares264

3 күн бұрын

It's called flogging a dead horse...

Finally a decent balanced review. This vehicle didn't last long in the United States but we also never got the rotary engine model. I love the exterior styling and the interior as well. I think if they had offered the range extender rotary in the US, I would be driving this today. And thank you for addressing the issue of acceleration times. Just because some EVs can get to 60 in 3 seconds doesn't mean that kind of acceleration is needed and in some situations, I would say it isn't wanted. Many drivers are no ready to handle that type of acceleration.

@PetrolPed

11 күн бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@rotaryperfection

2 күн бұрын

Yea the small range of the all ev version, killed that car in the states. I'm hoping that once Mazda gets enough of these sold elsewhere, and work out the bugs, that they re-introduce the car in the states. I use to own a 2014 Chevy volt and this is the same thing in how it operates but bigger.

Love the car, I’ve had 5 Mazda’s over my lifetime and they’ve always been very reliable and fun to drive. I’ve got the new Mazda 3 takumi on order. Hoping you get more Mazda’s on the channel soon. 😊 Great and informative review Pete, Keep up the hard work.

@PetrolPed

23 күн бұрын

Will do 👍

This technology has fascinated me since the Vauxhall Ampera. Great video!

@PetrolPed

17 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@whocares264

15 күн бұрын

and the bmw i3 rex

Sounds very interesting. We've ran Mazdas since 1997. They do build very reliable cars. Our current Mazda is the CX30 which from an infotainment perspective is very similar and just works brilliant. The top models do come fully loaded, and even at £39+ do represent excellent value. Residual values have always been good. Sounds like an excellent car. Can't understand why BMW didn't put a bigger tank on the I3.

Great, concise film Peter . I remember working with Mazda and I had many RX8 demos. As you said, terrible oil and fuel consumption, but great performance from a little 1300cc Wankel engine. This car seems to have figured out how to take away the range anxiety, but still giving you a choice of how you power it. Well done Mazda for thinking outside of the box. 👏

@PetrolPed

23 күн бұрын

Indeed 👍

@whocares264

22 күн бұрын

BMW did this better in 2014 with the I3 REX

I have a plug-in Honda Clarity that works very similar to this vehicle. I have found the best use of this vehicle is not to run the battery all the way down. When you travel, put the vehicle in hybrid mode. Save battery for all your local driving when you arrive. We do almost all our daily driving on EV mode. The engine in the clarity is an Atkinson cycle engine, and never really ever idles. The transmission is an EVCT that has two electric motors. There is no traction belt. The electric motors do almost all the propulsion. If you do happen to use the entire battery and don’t have the ability to plug it up the car can’t charge itself while you’re driving. You just have to put it in the charge vehicle mode. Works great. We love it.

The early Rotary engined Mazdas, the R100, RX2, RX3 and RX4 were super fun cars to drive. And they sounded awesome!

Great video review of this Mazda model. Same drivetrain technology as the BMW i3 Rex from 2014-2021. Glad to know a manufacturer continued to use this drivetrain setup. I love my 2014 BMW i3 Rex!

Sounds like our 2017 Chevy Volt. We love ours

@jaaklucas1329

14 күн бұрын

Chevy Volt one of the pioneers in this concept in cars.

As a former RX8 owner I'd be interested to know what the oil consumption of that rotary is, also how often it needs the oil changed. The doors bring back happy memories though.

@PetrolPed

17 күн бұрын

I talk about this in the video. Constant duty cycle helps a lot 👍

I think this is a really interesting car and a little more unique to look at than other mass produced vehicles. I believe Nissan have a similar range extender models, perhaps it would be an idea to ask Hendy group nicely for a quick drive of an example. Keep up the good work, hope you are feeling better.

Fascinating stuff. A real eye-opener. Thanks Ped.

@PetrolPed

23 күн бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it 👍

@whocares264

22 күн бұрын

this is like the 2014 BMW I3 REX....except the mazda has shorter electric range...and slower...and noisier...and uses more fuel.

@DocNo27

12 күн бұрын

@@whocares264 Mazda also costs less and will be far more reliable.

I think you slipped up by not using all of your electric range before getting to the hotel. It would have reduced your fuel burn as much as possible. As someone who drives 10-20 (regular) miles a day, this makes much more sense than a 200 mile Bev and is simpler and has better range than a phev. We need more cars like this (maybe a more practical minivan/MPV). Maybe the futuristic BMW i3 rex really was ahead of it's time, and will become a future classic. Thanks for the review.

@Jim_Urquhart

24 күн бұрын

Spot on. The most efficient way to use the car is to run in normal mode. Then if you know you have charging at your destination, switch to EV mode once within range if the destination.

@PetrolPed

24 күн бұрын

Very true 👍

@Molishious

23 күн бұрын

On my PHEV depending on settings, it will sometimes count electric miles as free so an 80 mile trip that is 40 mpg on the engine with 40 electric miles and 40 gas miles will look like 80 mpg. So when he says 37.5 mpg, is that totally separate from the electric miles used?

@solentbum

22 күн бұрын

@@Molishious Surely the way to 'cost' your mileage is by simply addding the cost of charging the car to the cost of petrol used. If you charge at home that can be very cheap, away from home the costs vary greatly.. Petrol seems to vary almost daily and by place. For me cost per mile is the best measure in my BEV. Most miles are at 2ppm, whilst when away from home it can rise to 19ppm. For the short trip in this video the price would have been 2ppm , and depending on the overnight charger cost not much more for the return trip. (The charger at the hotel appears to be free! putting the return price at 1ppm)

@Molishious

22 күн бұрын

@@solentbum I’d like reviewers to focus on efficiency as cost is going to depend on the price of gas and electricity in your area. I have yet to find the MPG for this car. No review mentions it. PHEV’s really need to be looked at with two efficiency’s, Gas and electricity. Gas, MPG, is easy in an ICE car, but it gets muddled in a PHEV as electric miles get mixed with gas miles. To get the MPG you need to drive the car once your have used up the EV range and the car has to move on gas power. So my car has 3 numbers, my actual MPG is around 38 MPG, my ev efficiency is 2.9 mile/kWh. Then I have the fake MPG that shows when it adds all of my electric miles into my gas miles acts as if the electricity is free. That’s 60 mpg. Ppm means parts per million to me so I’m not sure if it has a different meaning here. To me those numbers would be about tailpipe emissions maybe. I like looking at the efficiency numbers on my car but in reality with the amount I drive it’s not a big part of my expenses. I like to feel like I’m wasting less energy, but honestly, what keeps me driving electric is that it is so damn fun.

When you compare this road test against the Peugeot 3008 Phev last week, where you depleted the battery on the outward journey and had no charge for the return. This car is so clever and makes a lot of sense.

@PetrolPed

11 күн бұрын

Yep 👍

Not sure it pleases both sides, rather it would have them both hating it. However, for the vast majority of motorists who aren't in either camp, this is a great idea. Nice video Pete.

Interesting review of this car and you are one of the few reviewers who think this car is very good.As a Mazda 3 owner who doesn't do big mileage I would be interested in this car if I had a home charging box which is not possible. The full electric MX30 can be picked up for bargain prices used with very low mileage now also.

Great video as always. Thanks 👍

@PetrolPed

23 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching!

n Australia we have a completely different drive train, it's a 2.0L 4cyl petrol, with mild Hybrid it has a 6-speed Skyactiv-Drive automatic, vehicle weight is less than yours at 1400kg, it's called MX-30 M Hybrid

Nice review Ped. The Mrs has booked a test drive in one at our local Mazda dealer on the strength of this.

@PetrolPed

22 күн бұрын

Nice one!

Hi Pete and glad to see your non performance side. Very interesting motor. I as an Aussie, big distances over here, so I have never felt pressured about driving my all Electric Volvo C40. Good planning and never miss a planned charge point on the journey takes that aspect away.

@PetrolPed

23 күн бұрын

Cool, thanks

Very good job, by the way. You sell me the intelligence of this car, and that's the way it as to be. I add to that, the transition the public as to made, as the industries as to do. Again, bravo and thanks!

@PetrolPed

23 күн бұрын

Thanks! 👍

A great review and in today’s driving conditions with all the speed restrictions, this car’s performance is ample. It’s definitely a car that I would buy.

Subscribed! Very interesting drivetrain combination.

@PetrolPed

17 күн бұрын

Thanks for the sub and welcome to the channel 👍

Cheers mate see you Monday

Ah a sensible combination, totally agree with you comments. Thank you sir.

@PetrolPed

22 күн бұрын

Very welcome

I am guessing that oil changes etc on the rotary are are few and far between Peter. Great video, nice to see a different perspective.

I like the concept. Well presented. It makes a lot of sense, looking at the current infrastructure to recharge EV‘s. How fast can the battery be charged at a powerline?

Jason Plato will have a melt down when he sees those rear doors❤

Wow, have Mazda found the Holy Grail? I was a bit concerned when you mentioned rotary engine, but was ahead of you thinking of how it’s used here. For the average motorist, I can’t see anything not to like with this. It looks great from the front, that colour combo works brilliantly. I love the badging as you mentioned. The suicide doors are a marmite thing, but personally I think they’re cool. A small negative, the interior looked quite dark, a lighter headlining would be good, and all dashboards seem to have gone down the “slab” look, but they’re minor gripes. Well done Mazda, this deserves to do well 👍🏻

@johnbb99

19 күн бұрын

My BEV BMW i3 is 1300 Kg. That should be a target for all small EVs. No wonder the current crop of big heavy EVs are so inefficient.

@kevincross9206

19 күн бұрын

@@johnbb99 trouble with the i3 is it’s been smacked with the ugly stick - multiple times!! #beautyintheeyeofthebeholder 😆

@johnbb99

18 күн бұрын

@@kevincross9206 As you say, in the eye of the beholder. It's no Ferrari, or even Mazda 6, but it's a whole lot better than many euroboxes, or KoreanContainers; (and let's just not mention the Juke.... Oh Damn.)

@kevincross9206

18 күн бұрын

@@johnbb99 🤣

@jaaklucas1329

14 күн бұрын

The concept is the same as a diesel train which is actually a diesel electric train. E motors drive the wheels and the diesel engine is an electricity generator.If only they could run the generator on clean burning fuel though!

Definitely a good review. Car worth keeping for quirks

@PetrolPed

11 күн бұрын

Definitely!

Hi, great vid and a really interesting car. What was the overall average mpg combining elec and fuel?

really a nice car , and a wery impressive review thank you, make you think if this should be my next car 🙂

I love this approach to PHEV, using the engine strictly as a generator while enjoying a pure electric drive train. I wish this car would have come out 15 years ago, I would have bought one. I've long believed that rotary type generator was the best option for powering a generator in a car (small and smooth). It will be interesting to learn more about the different ways this Mazda can leverage its generator. One winter driving feature that I love about the Chevy Volt is the option to heat the cabin purely from the generator. Car heaters can really suck juice out the battery so when I'm on longer trips, I heat the cabin with the generator and focus the battery purely on powering the drive train. Not only is this the most efficient approach to winter driving, but it allows me to use the generator to warm the battery to its optimal temperature. Even though I love my Volt, I would have chosen this Mazda, complete with rotary, if that option would have been available.

@whocares264

12 күн бұрын

it did come out 10 years ago with the bmw i3 rex...

@mikebikekite1

6 күн бұрын

I suspect the heat pumps on modern Teslas are a lot more efficient.

@Boomflame82

3 күн бұрын

However, the Chevy Volts were discontinued before heat pumps could be included to even further improve heating efficiency before the gas engine warmed up enough.

Very impressed by the car and your road test. Just taken collection of a Skoda Enyaq and whilst I love it, I am already experiencing range anxiety as I might need to do a 400 mile round trip in the near future! I have an iPhone loaded with about 15 apps and I’m sure that one day I’ll make sense of them. This little Mazda sounds like what I should have gone for, a great piece of engineering.

@PetrolPed

9 күн бұрын

Just make sure you stop before you get to 20% to give you options 👍

I love the idea of this thing. This is the way PHEVs always should have been. However, those performance numbers would make this car frustrating to use in several of the major metro areas here in the states. There have been times when I needed to push our Prius past 90 to deal with traffic. A bit better 0-60 time would be helpful too, and I think Toyota has recognized this, since the new Prius does it in 7.2s. My preferences maybe. Also my preference...I hate the dial control in my CX-5. I don't think it's any more safe than a touchscreen, and it's less convenient than having real buttons. It is wasting space in the center console. On this one at least, it's less likely to have drink spilled into it.

If you can charge at home ( and are not lazy;) plug in hybrids are fabulous vehicles I own a Prius Plug In from 2021 and absolutely love it.

I guess that 39mpg is when the engine runs. So that could be double over a journey. If it had a different badge, it would sell like hot cakes. Thanks, very good insight.

Really interesting review.Looks like a great car.

@PetrolPed

23 күн бұрын

Thanks! 👍

Finaly someone did it! electric power train + a generator for better range and much lower weight, since a huge battery wont be needed, besides 50M is perfect for everyday use

On our 70mph roads the actual flow of traffic is at least 80. It’s not quite fast enough. But as a city car it seems perfect. Except that the Prius exists.

@guywhoisnotbob

Күн бұрын

I live in 80mph territory, though the flow doesn't average much higher. Personally, I'm not a fan of such high speeds. Great to get places a bit faster but my van doesn't seem to like it and my mpg takes a big hit.

For something like this, you would be best discharging the battery entirely and then letting the rotary come on and operating continuously. Topping it up as you go will make the car far less efficient. Same for any plug-in hybrid really. Engines are most efficient and produce the lowest emissions when they are at their ideal operating temperature so just turning it on willy nilly here and there is only costing you more money than necessary and going counter to the whole reason to go electric (reduce local emissions). The whole point of this car seems to be finding a good balance between combustion and battery. The range seems small but most of the time it would be sufficient for most trips for the average driver. The rotary is your insurance to ensure you aren't stranded should you need more range and public charging is not an option. Another advantage is having a smaller battery and a rotary, the car lighter and thus won't chew through tires like a lot of EVs do. It also isn't super powerful either which also improves tire life. This vehicle seems quite rational. However, the inability for the rotary to directly power the wheels is a mistake in my view. This dramatically lowers the efficiency when the rotary is running. If it had an eCVT like the Prius, that would be more sensible in my humble opinion. But if the new rotary has only a very small efficient RPM band, I can see why the series hybrid choice was made. I would probably choose a Prius Prime over this. I think Toyota still has the hybrid market cornered as they have the best hybrid formula so far.

Great video to do many thanks I would love to see a clip of you getting in and out of rear seats no one seems to show that bit?

Mazda really are quite inventive or alternative. I really like their thinking.

Yup, love that it isn't a 'flying ipad' like everything else out there. Rotary? Oh, yeah. Just the kind of soulful car they don't make anymore.

Funny you say that, I have always been surprised how few Mazdas are on the roads in the UK. The Mazda 6 is a huge seller in Aus and yet when l see one in the UK, l always do a double take, because they're so rare. Not sure why because they build awesome cars.

@Boomflame82

3 күн бұрын

Depends where they're made. Quality here in Canada took a dive when they outsourced to Mexico vs when they were made in Japan.

Inspired copy 10 years after the BMW i3 - except the i3 REx weighs 1300kg, does 100miles on battery and 9Litres charges the battery for another 100 miles (and obviously quickly refilled)

Cool to see a review of this. Never released this rotary version in the States. It's like a little Ferrari Purosangue with that door.

I never thought a car manufacturer would mass produce a series hybrid in my life but, Mazda need to be applauded !

@whocares264

12 күн бұрын

2014 bmw i3 rex , same system but better

@chrisbarron5861

12 күн бұрын

@@whocares264 My oversight, you're right. The pretenders EV :) :)

Agree with all positive comments More of these hybrids please

Hey PP, great review as always! Can you get the new mg3 hybrid+ and review?

@PetrolPed

Күн бұрын

Working on it!

The original twin rotor RX7 Turbo Bat mobile. Was only a 1.3 .but around 260 bhp .

It may not be zippy, but how does it do when you need to pass one of those lorries on the motorway? I used to have a rotary engine pick-up in the 9170’s. One of the most reliable vehicles I ever had. Could certainly handle big loads for a small pick-up.

Thanks again for another interesting piece on a very interesting car. I absolutely love the concept and I've been saying for a while that my ideal car would be exactly what this Mazda provides: a self charging electric car with around 50 miles of EV only range. But.... And there have to be 3 buts: 1. The weight! 1.8 tons! It's a tiny car with a small battery which weighs the same as my S4 diesel. Lordy, what have they built it from? 2. The efficiency! It's not all that great, is it? I'm guessing the battery range was being supplemented by the engine providing some electrical power directly to the motors. Your end battery efficiency was so much better after engine use than when it was on battery only. And that petrol consumption is terrible for a generator. A generator should run very efficiently in a set optimised rev range. I'd have expected 80+ mpg from a 70hp motor in those conditions. Btw, on the run you did, I'd expect my S4 to do around 45mpg. 3. Size. An occasional 4 (uncomfortable) seater is not an adequate compromise to reduce weight and gain efficiency, particularly when neither weight not overall efficiency are anything to get excited about. Lovely looking car, interesting take on the plug-in hybrid concept but ultimately it's a compromise that currently doesn't seem to work fully. I'm still waiting for that EV or hybrid Holy Grail and until then I'll be sticking to my "dirty" diesel. Sorry about that everyone.

@jaaklucas1329

14 күн бұрын

Look up Edison trucks, they are using this hybrid concept. Electric drivetrain is so superior.

So this is like the 2014 BMW I3 REX....except the mazda has shorter electric range...and slower...and noisier...and uses more fuel.

Another great video. I am thinking of getting a plug in but really want to know what they do when the battery is empty. This Mazda is the only one that I have found which seems to advertise it. 50L tank; 400mi range. 400mi is 640km. 640/50 is 12.8Km/L which is just over 36mpg. So PetrolPed got more than advertised. But 36-40mpg on a long journey is not good. My Suzuki Vitara with no hybrid gets 40-50 Another commenter says their Mazda CX50 mhev gets over 50mpg. According to owner reviews The Prius will return over 70mpg and the Ioniq is close behind. The first PetrolPed video I watched was on the long term Rav4 as I am interested in the Suzuki Across (same car, different badge & spec). And I remember Pete saying, when the battery is empty it still gets 45-50mpg. So as good as the Vitara plus all the benefits of EV running for shorter journeys. Early Rav4 plugins are becoming reasonable value on the used market, the Across being approx.. £1000 cheaper. The big disadvantage with these is the remaining years of the extra £390 annual tax. So in conclusion this looks like a great car. It is the right size for me, performance is fine. But the long range lack of ecomony makes it a no go. Obviously it would be better on shorter EV only journeys but you may as well save a bit and get the BEV version.

An interesting concept but after our ownership experience of a Mazda 3 with a rattle and the stereo sound system not wanting to work regularly we punted it fairly quickly never to return to the marque. I'm not sure you could class it as a family car as there is no chance anyone is sitting behind you in that car. I do like the rotary wheel controlling the functions that I carried from my Mazda to my next car being the JCW.

Full credit to Mazda for producing a car that focuses on efficiency and range instead of out and out performance, along with what, in the current market, is a ‘sensible’ price point. If manufacturers are going to entice people across to EVs this is what is needed. I personally think that it again proves the point that for anyone who regularly does longer journeys a hybrid is the obvious practical choice. My ‘daily’ is a Toyota RAV4 hybrid which, in the 2.5yrs I’ve owned it, has averaged 50mpg which is fantastic efficiency for a comfortable family sized SUV and I have my ‘toys’, a V8 and a couple of motorbikes for my thrills! 😊

Great vid, but did I understand the figures correctly, 100mile journey with net fuel efficiency (presumably including being supplemented) of just under 40mpg for a small car with average performance , it still seems to stack up poorly against a small diesel polo ? Or equivalent which would offer more performance and more efficiency?

Enjoyed your video very much. Everything is so well explained. I have a plug-in hybred, which I love, and I do feel they should be promoted more enthusiastically. With mine l can select maintain battery for long journeys and still have the efficiency of a hybred, i.e., it always starts and runs the car in electric mode until up to speed. Not quite as good as the mazda, but then the car will do well over 100 mph.

@PetrolPed

17 күн бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Great review, super interesting car.

@PetrolPed

22 күн бұрын

Glad you liked it!

Superb car. Only downside is that in the UK, the road tax is £180 a year. Why?

Very interesting concept.

@PetrolPed

17 күн бұрын

Glad you think so!

I have a BMW I3 Rex 100-120 mile EV range and 9 Ltr of fuel total range 200 + miles perfect for my needs

I was sold in the first minutes. That is practically exactly what I believe an EV Hybrid should be. It's good looking too, unlike the BMW, what was the model, I3? Alas, it doesn't appear to be sold here in the colonies! Come on! I got some money burning in my pocket!

Love this car. Only gripe is the touch screen for A/C. Very unlike Mazda. And the all EV MX-30 is perfect for commuting around the city on shorter trips. I just think people judge it unfairly. Of course it can’t compete with EVs costing 1.5x to 2x more with larger batteries. Shame that Mazda doesn’t sell more units.

It looks amazing! Mazda goes its own way again!

@PetrolPed

23 күн бұрын

It does!

What an interesting car in so many ways. Thank You !

@PetrolPed

23 күн бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@mattiparviainen607

23 күн бұрын

Actually this might be next daily, really interesting car.

FINALLY !. Mazda made the first practical EV in the world. They have almost completely caught up to early 1900s electric car engineering. NOW Do that but with modular easily replaceable and accessible battery packs.

@PetrolPed

9 күн бұрын

👍

Well what do we need performance vehicles for in a small country with a speed limit of 70 miles an hour? You can’t really use a performance car anyway!!

Very interesting , thank you

@PetrolPed

13 күн бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

If the rotary engine really vibrates much less than a reciprocating engine, that might provide a nearly seamless transition from the battery to the ICE. Im now very interested. It's unorthodox body configuration is attractive.

Brilliant review Pedro. Definitely an attractive proposition for anyone considering joining the EV club who currently doesn't have the confidence or the knowledge. Another compelling car for someone on a company car scheme who has a family requirement. They'll save shed loads in BiK and will have a very economical car. I know about rotary engines but many don't. How about a quick review about what they are and how they compare to other ICE's? Cheers.

@PetrolPed

23 күн бұрын

Great idea 👍

The Lexus CT200H never needed plugging in. 1800cc engine?. Charged the battery itself. I averaged 50mpg with nearly 100k miles on the clock and 10 years old before I sold it.

This is the kind of thing they need to do with "electric" vans, just have a tiny diesel motor running as a generator and half the battery size! As long as the engine has enough power to push the vehicle along at motorway speeds (with conversion losses) you will have whatever range you need!

Hello Peter! Now that is a relevant and practical car! It looks very good indeed and the interior is different and very neatly thought out. Last week I had a look at a new Volvo XC30 and was astonished by the truly awful interior with great slabs of super cheap black plastic! This Mazda is light years ahead and the drivetrain is very interesting. We have the Puma MHEV which is very good indeed but the Mazda would be well up at the top of my list! Now I have news…last Friday I collected my 2022 Range Rover Sport Autobiography Dynamic PHEV! Yes it was a nightmare to insure but JLR insurance did come up with affordable Cover…eventually! After 86 miles, I am quickly becoming an EV convert! My battery is small with a limited range but so far I have got a physical 29 and then 27 miles in purely EV mode. Then when the petrol engine fires, so far it is averaging 46.7 mpg! You simply cannot tell when it is in EV or petrol mode and even standing still, I had to open a window to see if the engine was running. Also, so far I appear, as best I can judge, I have used three litres of petrol! Today we set course for an extended holiday to Cornwall and then to Hampshire. It will now get a real world test and I will gladly report back what it REALLY costs and how it works. I’m still reading the instructions on how to set everything up! I would buy that Mazda in a moment..if the Puma was not here, I would be off to order one now! Stay safe..I will be around as much as WiFi on the Lizard allows..which is spasmodic! 😃😃😃😅Richard.

This is the (short term) future. An electric vehicle with a range extender. The petrol extender/generator should be swappable with another battery or fuel cell, but that can come later. I like this small rotary solution from Mazda. Thanks for the review.

@whocares264

22 күн бұрын

bmw did this better in 2014 with the I3 REX.

@MotoGuzziMoto

22 күн бұрын

@@whocares264 Yeah the I3 looks good too. Ram will be coming out with the RamCharger, similar idea with full electric drivetrain and an ICE engine to keep it charged. The concept still needs work but even in these "no-so-efficient" variants, they still make sense if most of your driving is short haul with some intermittent long trips, or like me you just want to avoid the whole public charging debacle.

Sorry Ped - think you have misunderstood how the consumption dials work in a PHEV - the more you use the petrol the higher the miles/kWh will increase so the reason it’s 3.8 at the end is because it’s been on the petrol a fair bit hence why under 40mpg. Do like the car and it has a use case if only have to do the odd long journey but I think I land more where JayEmm has with this one

@PetrolPed

23 күн бұрын

It a normal PHEV I agree, if it gave you the figure that is. That’s not how this PHEV works though as the petrol engine never powers the wheels so the kWh/Mile figure (Miles/kwh) is totally independent of petrol consumption.

@lewismcnicholas2631

23 күн бұрын

I still think there will be a connection - I would run it in ev mode only and compare the mile/kWh figure as then it won’t be potentially tainted by the REX element - it should do well for a PHEV but wouldn’t expect more than 2.5 miles/kWh in reality

Speed sign recognition is an assistance, you can't rely on it to get out of a speeding fine Pete, you need to use your own eyes as well! Greta video though and I really like the sound of this car as a daily proposition.

@PetrolPed

22 күн бұрын

As an advanced driver I couldn’t agree more 👍

if only Mazda cared about weight and people with legs, I'm close to buying a BMW I3, same concept but better range etc.. it's like 5-600kg's lighter despite the bigger battery

@marcusswalwell209

20 күн бұрын

I think the i3 was just too expensive to make - all that carbon fibre shell and alu chassis kep the weight down and performance up. BMW aimed higher than anyone to optimise the user benefits.

While my CX5 2.2 diesel had its service last week, I test-drove: MX30 R-EV CX8 2.2 turbo diesel CX60 3.3 turbo diesel hybrid & 2024 MX5 "Roadster" soft-top. Lots of fun, and my conclusions for someone with two kids, who enjoys camping, and does paragliding as a hobby: MX30 - The rotary engine is noisy. R car is too small. But as a test platform, has potential. 🤔 The CX8 should've been kept - it's nearly the perfect car for me for now, but Mazda has killed it, and in June will launch the too-expensive CX80 🙁 The CX60 is gorgeous, but too big and too bouncy... it's aimed at soft-arsed people with too much money. Not "drivers". I had an 'NB series' Roadster, so love the 2024 version... ...maybe when my CX5 dies, I'll just get a Toyota Van AND a Mazda Roadster...? 🤣

I was given one of these as a company car, had it for two weeks and swapped it for an eNiro. The Mazda is well screwed together, and it drives very well in EV mode. Trouble is the EV mode doesn't last long enough and when the battery is depleted the rotary engine fires up and sounds horrendous, think early 2000s Prius and you won't be far off, it drones away at a constant and annoying pitch. It is also incredibly thirsty, on a run of 230 miles the first 40 of which were just using the battery it averaged 32mpg.

Bring the RX back like this! More power for sure but yes!

Really wish Mazda would make an EV Miata. The EV Miata conversions are fantastic, but one made from the ground up to be an EV would be even better.

Very interesting car I had a rx8. Nice to see the rotary engine back.

@PetrolPed

17 күн бұрын

It sure is!

Rosen Motors did the same thing except they used a small gas turbine. To bad the company went belly up before they went into production!

It’s like a slightly software open version of the BMW i3 ReX. All electric drive, small ICE to recharge, suicide doors. Maybe you should do an old car review and compare this Mazda to the BMW.

Math says the fuel economy on the rotary is 26.2mpg (US), or 9L/100km, based on the official range. The rotary is not efficient. However, I think it succeeds in what it sets out to do. If you can do 90%+ of your driving within the battery's range, the efficiency of the range extender is generally irrelevant.