Are Retro SPACE MARINES Still Worth Buying?
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A while back I picked up a very cool 2nd edition Space Marine Devastator off of eBay. It really brought back memories from when I was a kid and I knew there would come a time to try and rescue this mini and bring it back to the good old days of 2nd edition 40K. Well, here we are, exploring whether or not it's even something that's worth doing.
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@akumaking1
Жыл бұрын
What about 3D printing retro minis?
@eBayMiniatureRescues
Жыл бұрын
@@akumaking1 sounds fun, not quite the same as working with older models, being metal and all, but there are some great stl files out there of old minis.
@battleshipman56
Жыл бұрын
Where can you find old fantasy models? Because I've checked almost all games store and hobby shops/ collectors. I've never found a single one who sells fantasy and Ebay is just a scalpers paradise, 300$ for a single dwarf hammer.... I live in Canada btw, and suggestions?
@eBayMiniatureRescues
Жыл бұрын
@@battleshipman56 if eBay isn’t working for you then definitely check out the buy/sell/swap Facebook pages for Warhammer. You can post for stuff you’re looking for and someone might have it, as well as a ton of sales going on all the time. Otherwise do a search for what you want on eBay and save that search to notify you when something pops up in your price range, that way you can get a notification when there’s something you might actually want to look at instead of wading through tons of stuff you definitely won’t buy. Good luck out there, I know it’s hard finding the right stuff!
@battleshipman56
Жыл бұрын
@@eBayMiniatureRescues thank you for the fast reply and info, It's really helpful! Appreciate it! Like and sub+
Restoring old models is every hobbiest's duty
When are you starting Hello Fresh Rescue? "If you're like me, you miss the simple days of Hello Fresh in 2019. Today I've got a Chipotle Taco Meal with a side of Anchovie Quesadillas I got off eBay for a steal. Let's see if it's edible..."
@eBayMiniatureRescues
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha, judge it by expiration date and how sick you get, or how to avoid that!
@footrot17
Жыл бұрын
Have you watched the channel chubby emu? 'boy eats 180 gummy vitamins, this is what happened to his brain' ect. Great channel
The chaos marines from 1st ed 40k were spectacularly weird, I'd love to see you tackle some of them.
@eBayMiniatureRescues
Жыл бұрын
I have my eye on some on eBay. I have an old Chaos Space Marine army that eventually needs some work and it would be great to include at least one squad of old minis.
@riven5677
Жыл бұрын
@@eBayMiniatureRescues could you maybe do the nightlord chaos lord or war smith? they both aged pretty well and your an amazing painter
I know this is an older video, but about a month ago I bought a lot of pewter Grey Knights from 20-25 years ago from someone at my FLGS. The purchase was largely inspired by your channel as I didn't buy the models, per se, I bought a project to work on, and eventually try to field on the tabletop. I'm almost 1/3 of the way through the nearly 50 models in the army, and it's been the best experience in my limited hobby experience!
Absolutely yes. May not be something a younger hobbyist wants but i am 39 and i love the old minis. Full on nostalgia. I actually prefer painting metal models too.
@eBayMiniatureRescues
Жыл бұрын
It does seem like the younger hobbyists aren't interested in metal, too many horror stories from a lot of us that started with it I think lol. I love painting metal models though, they just feel different than modern plastic.
@Moondog-wc4vm
Жыл бұрын
I painted a lot of metal D&D models before I started on Citadel miniatures. To this day my favourites from the metal era are my Grey Knights, Inquistitor double blister pack and my Terminator box set. I look at the painting on the models and think, yeah I could do better now, but the fun I had painting them is second to none. I was always a painter rather than a wargamer, so if like me you like to do the best paint job you can, then try some of these older models, and have fun!
@LifeLongMETALHead83
Жыл бұрын
Metal models are still around. Multiple games companies, including GW still make metal minis. The best minis on the market are made by Corvus Belli. Amazing sculpts, nearly everything they make is white metal.
@pocketyukariyakumo5959
Жыл бұрын
I am a younger person, being in my teens ish, when I see the metal reruns I tend to get them if it fits an army I want to play, its a good talking piece on the added weight alone.
@riven5677
Жыл бұрын
If the models nice looking I’ll paint it
Im 12 but at my old school they had the old nostalgic white dwarfs with amazingly painted models. My first introduction to WH40k and WHFB was WD237(I think)
@eBayMiniatureRescues
Жыл бұрын
Very cool! When I was younger I convinced my local library branch to order White Dwarf. I was the only one who checked them out to read and it was glorious lol
@doc_sav
8 ай бұрын
This is like the best way to learn about a game like this!
@crenshawsMOMA
8 ай бұрын
@@eBayMiniatureRescues that's so cool wish i saw this last year
@crenshawsMOMA
8 ай бұрын
@@doc_sav yeah because you get to be emerged in the lore, hobby and just get some helpful tips
Just picked up a squad of 90s space marines from the old space crusade/ star quest game and they have so much character. Totally agree at how fun these retro models are to paint
No school like Old School - always enjoy the rescue vids!!
This was a real love letter to the models that a lot of us had our first experience in the hobby with! To be honest, I'm glad with the improvements in the 20 years I was away, but videos like this make me want to try an old school model like this again! Thanks for sharing your experience with a classic! Goblin Green!!
3rd edition was my way into the hobby - like you I only stuck at it a few years and came back into the hobby in 2020
@eBayMiniatureRescues
Жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how much has changed in that time period too. I am way more invested as an adult though so I feel like it’s much more fun these days.
@Augdown
Жыл бұрын
@@eBayMiniatureRescues definitely - its great fun and also as an adult it has the added benefits of being great downtime from the stress of life
I've got a bunch of 2nd edition and 3rd edition blister packs that I crack open when I want a taste of that nostalgia. It's interesting to revisit how different the hobby was when I first started.
That Bloodywood t-shirt is absolutely baller. They're my favorite band.
@eBayMiniatureRescues
Жыл бұрын
They are so good, I heard them randomly on KZread like 6 months before their album came out, been hooked ever since. I almost got to see them not too long ago but I just happened to sell my house and have to move the same weekend, I'm hoping they make their way back to the states for more tours, I heard they are even better in person!
Cross hatching with an exacto blade works great for connecting prices together gives the glue more surface area to form a strong bond
I have a large box of these in various states of paint and repair. I recently started stripping them to take the glooped on paint and then repaint them. This is so much fun. BTW, in the "pre-metalic paint era" we used knittnig needles to flatten and shine the metal surface smooth and make it reflective. I have been using this techniquie to make some 90's era grey knitghts
@eBayMiniatureRescues
Жыл бұрын
I'lll have to try the knitting needle thing, that sounds fascinating! When I started I only bought a few paints and a metallic was not one of them, so I just left swords unpainted until I ended up getting some.
yes. painting models older than me is a fun experience
I got my started back in 2000 and can really relate to your nostalgia cravings. There's something special about those minis too, and I love to paint both new and old sculpts 👍
I just bought a Plague Marine from 1992. I’m just getting into 40K and Death Guard and I wanted a piece of that history.
@eBayMiniatureRescues
Жыл бұрын
I love having at least a few of the old models in my armies, just to get a little bit of that history in there. In my DG army I have a couple of squads of plaguebearers in metal to stand in for pox walkers, they look fantastic and really stand out!
@ninjamania
Жыл бұрын
Yes! I recently painted a complete infantry force of old Plague Marines.
Love how you freehanded the shoulder pad. I’ve always gone with freehanding. Cracks me up when you watch someone do this epic paint job and then they slap on a transfer.
As an imperial guard player, I've learned to love the old pewter sculpts, and I'm building a pewter space marine killteam as well
I’m currently planning on making a retro Sisters of Battle army in a similar vain. I have an army of modern Sisters that are an Argent Shroud successor and I thought making a retro army to represent them back when they were a part of the Argent Shroud would be cool.
Ha, I have this model, just stripped it too! Love how the legs are sculpted.
@eBayMiniatureRescues
Жыл бұрын
Yeah those boots are awesome, like some kind of exo skeleton to help move the armor.
There were plenty of metallic paints back then (I was there!) Maybe not so many variations, but still a bunch to choose from and inks in place of glazes and washes etc.
@eBayMiniatureRescues
Жыл бұрын
I know there was, but even when I started I didn't have metallic paint for a good while. I remember leaving paint off of swords to get the silver. The inks I remember pretty well, but even those I had no idea how to use lol.
@paulabery771
Жыл бұрын
I definitely had a citadel acrylic paint called mithril silver that I slapped on the swords of my citadel miniatures in the 1980’s
@rx7886
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Tin Bitz - that was an awesome metallic from that era.
@ThomasB-zw3sg
Жыл бұрын
Yes, boltgun metal and mithril silver
@bionicgeekgrrl
Жыл бұрын
Back in 2nd edition there wasn't a great deal of selection for metallic colours. However if you went outside of the hobby to scale aircraft then there were a lot more options. But most people back then would have been sticking to the gw paints for the most part as they were the easiest to obtain, at least in the UK. Might well have been a bit different across the pond for all I know.
I found an Inquisitor mini in my LGS's clearance bin. Lucius Devlan specifically. Gonna make a little diorama for him to display on my shelf.
I started collecting and painting in 1988 I was 12. but I love the model's that came out in 1990 and onwards.
A few retro videos that came out over the last week or so - also checking out the Mammoth Miniatures shop - has won me over. I'm digging the look of these older models!
@eBayMiniatureRescues
Жыл бұрын
Yeah these Retro Space Marine videos all came out of nowhere. Guy from Midwinter sent me a pic of his latest model when I was wrapping up the editing on this video, super weird coincidence lol. I guess it was just the right time to work on them!
Retro minis are a fun experience all their own. I still prefer the new stuff, but the occasional old hammer thing is a good time.
I didn’t think you were going to upload a video this week, I’m glad you did! It’s always a good day when you upload something for us to watch.
@eBayMiniatureRescues
Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated :) things are still going strong! This week I had to push it out by a day though because the hello fresh spot, they don’t do Sunday videos, Idono why, but at least it’s only a day later.
Short answer: Yes Long answer: Hell Yes
Absolutely love your paintjob on this little dude, so good.
I really loved the work in progress mini montage.
I remember finding my first 40k model. A single metal grey knight. I'm 90% sure I just washed it in badab black raw. Simpler times.
It's good to someone enjoy the pleasures of the original metal figures. I still enjoy them, very much. Nice one Casey, 👍
Loved the video. Totally agree that the old models had more character.
this is easily becoming one of my very favorite warhammer channels. i love it when he works on the older models.
Metal minis best minis
@eBayMiniatureRescues
Жыл бұрын
still so good!
Nice work! I couldn't let that stand with the marine armed with a bazooka, I'd have to drill out!
@eBayMiniatureRescues
Жыл бұрын
I know what you mean, but man I would hate to mess that up lol
Missile boy looks great - nostalgia aside (and there's a lot of nostalgia) I feel it's really fascinating to be able to collect the various eras of miniatures and see how the same troop type has been redesigned and reinterpreted over the years (I'm trying not to say 'decades', just so I don't feel too old). I find the modern plastics very lively and characterful personally, but it's a great bonus to be able to have their 'ancestors' lined up alongside them; I recently managed to get an affordable (more or less) deal on ebay for a 1988 daemonette, completing the set of original, 1994 giant claws, Juan Diaz, and the current plastics in my daemonette horde (and being chaos, having all those different designs mingling is a feature, not a bug, they're supposed to be chaotic).
It looks amazing. Fantastic job. Keep up the good work.
ace video! Have you tried freezing components with old superglue on? The glue becomes brittle, and the metal contracts which also helps to loosen the glue. The glue usually just crumbles off.
@williamveenhuyzen4726
Жыл бұрын
Has worked really good for me in the past
Love my old devastator squad in their bright red power armour and (actual) green goblin base, they still get the biggest reaction when I put them on the table 😀
@eBayMiniatureRescues
Жыл бұрын
That's what I really like about a lot of the old models, there are so many people who have never seen them painted up on a table. I get the same reaction with my old Plaguebearers, they just look so different and cool.
@stevenkelly7354
Жыл бұрын
@@eBayMiniatureRescues my daughter is doing a nurgle army and some kind guys on an old hammer site sent her a load of old metal plaguebearers :) she's looking forward to painting them once she finishes her great unclean one.
@eBayMiniatureRescues
Жыл бұрын
@@stevenkelly7354 very cool! They are fantastic models, way better than the plastic ones.
I have a few of the og space marines from the ultramarine command in my army plus getting ready to add a company banner to it as well
@eBayMiniatureRescues
Жыл бұрын
Very cool! I am a sucker for those old banners too.
@toweroftrollgaming
Жыл бұрын
@@eBayMiniatureRescues I have the banner man that was given to Calgar
Dang it Casey, this is the kind of video I want to actuall WATCH, not just listen to while I work or hobby.
Love it. I have the space marines from the 2nd Ed box set which were very mono-pose and even the missile launcher is plastic. All painted in Ultra Marines blue and the trim of the 2nd Coy. i.e. Golden Yellow. Back in the day the colour of the trim denoted which company the marines belonged to. Red was 3rd. But at the time this was a switch from metal Napoleonic's so I was undercoating in grey, no highlighting and minimal inks. Nice to see a new recruit.
Still in love with all my oldhammer models. Great video. However, I've started to look at griming them up a bit rather than the comic book look of the 90s.
those devastator models are among my favourites. If you want to scare someone with a metal model, get them to build a techmarine backpack. That was awful to get glued together!
Great stuff friend 👏 👍
I paint for display anyway, so have amassed a load of 90s marines for dunking and re-painting
Haven't seen the video yet but the answer is yes. Now to watch this.
i always go by the rule of if you enjoy doing it then it is worth it. I play 40k but i mainly do so because i love building the models and painting them there is no wrong way to hobby as having fun is the goal
Of course they are worth it. I still have some early 90's era Marines in my army today.
Great video, lovely paint job man. Yeah sorry I comment as I watch the videos 🤣
@eBayMiniatureRescues
Жыл бұрын
Hahah, no worries man, every comment helps for real!
as a vintage hobby enthusiast, this is probably the worst possible time in history to be interested in 2nd edition marines. everything had skyrocketed in price over the pandemic, but only just recently did old marines actually jump up in price aswell
I am currently painting my loveproject which is oldschool IF fist army, mostly composed of 2nd edition SM. It is so worth it
I don't think it is just nostalgia. I was not into WH40k in my younger days, and just started getting into it a couple years ago. The older space Marines are way more pleasing to what I am into than the new ones.
My friend, thanx for the amazing channel and videos
Oh the nostalgia ☺️. I bought 2 squads of these when they first came out, an i still have them. I should really repaint some of my old S.M.s but jevers didn't i invent a massively complex red an blue colour scheme, i still get twitchy thinking about it 25 years later.
@eBayMiniatureRescues
Жыл бұрын
reminds me of some of my Eldar from back then, lots going on and multiple color schemed for one army, I don't even know where to begin to add more or fix what I have.
@stretch3281
Жыл бұрын
Well the paint on them is nice an smooth, so they are basically basecoated. I should do a few just to see what they look like with the skills i have now. Dont think I'll be doing all 200 of them tho.
@eBayMiniatureRescues
Жыл бұрын
@@stretch3281 it’s always nice seeing how much progress you’ve made since old projects, it does help keep up the motivation, but yeah, 200 is a lot lol
Old school Necromunda, you had to kitbash with metal. The way of the Glue-fu had to be strong
@eBayMiniatureRescues
Жыл бұрын
hahah, yeah kitbashing metal is an entire hobby all on its own!
I'd love to see you do a devestator squad with the minus from space crusade 💖
Absolutely worth getting. Some of them can be used in horus heresy mixed in with the newer releases for that. The aquilla is a bit out of place for hh, but that is not really the end of the world and can be covered over easily enough without destruction of the model itself.
Cool Jinjer shirt
Just had to retire one of those red brushes this year past. Also Selling a lot of my old space marines.
That one ended up pretty cool, with lots of character. :) There is plenty of worth in older Space Marines and other ancient miniatures, even with the scale creep in mind. For instance, old tiny Space Marines could just as well be used for non-enhanced futuristic soldiers in a different game. I also see potential in lengthening the limbs of some old Warhammer Fantasy and 40K figures that are 25mm in size.
@ScooterinAB
Жыл бұрын
I'm actually planning to take a 3d model of a Primaris Marine and scale it down to match classic Marines. The scale creep is just so ridiculous, and I hate Primaris Marines anyways so the sacrilege of it brings me joy. I love metal models. They feel like something important. And they aren't upended the moment they are placed on a texture because they actually have mass. Plastic is nice for converting, but it's making us lazy. Instead of doing everything we could to make unique models, we just take whatever GW is giving us and then complain about how they all look the same or are impossibly difficult to assemble (does a single Battle Sister leg really need to be in three pieces?).
Hey mate. I’ve just found your channel and been binging it. I’ve got a few questions, I’ve got about 5k point space wolf army from the 90’s. I’ve recently had a resurgence in wanting to paint them. Can you tell me how you strip all the plastic and what would be a good paint kit to get. Thanks bud
I have some older metal marines and a captain. I developed a mild obsession with metal terminators.
@eBayMiniatureRescues
Жыл бұрын
I do have a soft spot for those old Termis, so iconic!
Personaly while I am trying to do a retro astetics army I would like updated old style minis, that actualy looks like art. The New terminator for warhammer plus is so awsome I want a squad of them.
I have never and don't plan on buying space Marines. I love my ORKS too much. But I would buy RETRO Marines from my local shop in a heartbeat...unless they had more retro ORKS....
This is like pure nostalgia for me. Although, generally Space Marine models were cooler than todays versions, Imperial Guard models were even cooler. Also, if you can find them, squats are awesome
I’d love you to buy an old army and paint them how they’d be painted at the time
Hey there really like you shows keep it going :) I would like to know how high is the temp when your cleaning plastic models I have some old roguetrader and don't want to melt them Dan
@eBayMiniatureRescues
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!! I never let my sonic cleaner go above 55*C, and that's pretty hot. Even then, I've never had any issues with melting plastic or resin before. Resin can get a little bendy at higher temps, which is usually a good thing because I can bend pieces and cool them back into their proper shape, but that's about it. It would take some serious heat to melt the polystyrene plastic that GW makes their models out of so I wouldn't worry about it too much in the sonic cleaner. Hope that helps!
Still have a box of those AND a few blisters of Legion of the Damned.
I went out of my way to get some monopose space marines to add to my army. I have 0 regrets.
if you like the old nostalgic stuff, then yes. Personally, I like the newer stuff and I'd never pay some of those crazy prices for the old stuff.
Hey man, love the video thanks for sharing! Wanted to just mention a tip that you have a lot of background audio fuzz in your VO so it would probably help to use some available easy tricks to remove it and make things sound cripsy. You can search like, Remove Background Audio or Hiss and there's lots of vids on KZread to show how :)
Yes. The old Legion of the Damned on a gaming board?
see the menu in the ad at the start of the vidéo, my brain: welcome to : not france
Primarus for life lol
Man, I have so many boxes of these classics in unpainted freshly assembled condition from my “reserve” armies that you would lose your mind! The bowling ball heavy Dreadnoughts were epic and there’s 6 unpainted along with pretty much everything my main army had. Too much free $ and time obviously in my teens 😂 The only drawback is the ridiculous weight of the collection, ya could squash children with an accident involving a fall while transporting your army 😂🤣
Yes, you can order the old SM minis off ebay, or, what I did last week, go to your parents house and retrieve your Chaplain from 2000. Going to Re-Do this single miniature to my "now standard". :)
i feel like you should have wiped away a little bit more wash on the weapon. it looks more like grime than shadow
I'm fairly new to the modeling side of Warhammer. I do like the older metal models, especially the Chaos Terminators and grab them whenever I see one for a decent price.
@eBayMiniatureRescues
Жыл бұрын
Those Terminators are so good!
@ReverendPONT
Жыл бұрын
@@eBayMiniatureRescues I've got a good dozen so far lol. I also loaded up on the metal Chaos Sorcerers that were made to order from GW not too long ago. I agree that they have more personality. The older tanks and Rhinos are cooler also I think.
Committing the cardinal sin and commenting before watching the whole entire video, but yes!!! But I am biased as I'm restoring about 90 of them right now...
For a collection purpose it will be always worth it ! They gonna start to be rare and i want at least a squad that i can paint properly xD
3rd Edition FTW! 🤟😎
I’d suggest you try Purple Power to clean and strip old models.
@eBayMiniatureRescues
Жыл бұрын
I’ve used it before. It works well enough, but I switched to LAs totally awesome because I can get it for $1 per bottle and it’s great!
@ninjamania
Жыл бұрын
@@eBayMiniatureRescues I guess you can’t argue with that! I just drop minis into the solution and let them sit until I get to them(sometimes years later, haha) and they usually come clean quite easily, including glue
I can't seem to find the GT Sonic Cleaner you have, is it discontinued? Is there another you would recommend at that size for volume?
@eBayMiniatureRescues
Жыл бұрын
Last I checked I couldn't find it either. BUT, I imagine anything similar will be pretty good. The one I have is a 3Litre model with adjustable time and heat settings.
@angrybadgerminis3077
Жыл бұрын
@@eBayMiniatureRescues Thank you so much. What liquid are you using?
You can use the grey knight strike squad with old fashion helmets so kitbash time
How about painting an intercessor with bright retro UM painting style?
@eBayMiniatureRescues
Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen some Primaris armies painted like that, it’s very cool and still has that same old hammer feel.
Man, I have 2 squads of Devastators from 2nd edition... I may try to repaint them just because my skills were not great back then
Great video! Ive had in mind buying a ultrasonic cleaner for a few months, but i really don't know what should i use... What did you use? Ive got a few landraiders and a knight who would really like a bath 😅
@eBayMiniatureRescues
Жыл бұрын
I use a 3 liter sonic cleaner with a variable temperature and timer setting. Amazon has a bunch of different kinds, I picked up one that I don’t think is being made anymore, but there are plenty that are still out there. The 3 liter model fits tanks really well which is why I ended up with that size. Knights are a little tougher but I’ve done a few and they still fit with the panels off. Definitely worth getting if you plan on stripping a lot of minis :)
I don't have to buy any, I've got dozens sitting in boxes out in my shed. That I've been rooting around and rearranging lately.
wow the blasphemy of making a blood angel (it looks like what the OG painter was going for ) into a Ultrasmurf ! lol awesome job . I still have many many of these mini's and their tactical marine counterparts they are some of my fave mini's though I did upgrade most to at least have 3rd ed Marine arms .
@eBayMiniatureRescues
Жыл бұрын
lol I know, I almost went with the original Blood Angel thing they had going on, but that blue, yellow, and red color scheme has been calling me for a while! I don't even have an Ultramarine army...
@ScooterinAB
Жыл бұрын
They're basically Ultramarines now anyways. So much blasphemy though. Sanguinius would be rolling in his... oh. :(
I wonder what GW does with all their retired models from the codex? Warhammer World has all the modern stuff but you don't see much of the old metal figures in the museum. Must be hidden away in a archive somewhere. Anyway great nostalgia piece!
I mean as long as they have weapons that are used still today I just rebase my old models and they work just fine.
A true shame the got rid of every metal Imperial Guard regiment. Tear stains now fill my 2nd edition codex. eBay has been a friend for finding some metal miniatures, but I have had the most success on reddit miniswap. Good community!
I have 5 sealed mono marines and I still don't know what chapter will do them justice. It'd be lazy to paint them as unlucky boyz just to mash them into the rest of the army troops
Finally I'm glad someone other than myself has issues with the newer Space Marines, they completely lack the charm and style what made them uneique, i'd say now they look even more like Stormtroopers than they do Space Marines.
I have around 150 or so RT Necromundan IG in plastic and metal. Nothing beats the nostalgia or character of the classics and I won’t sell them.
JINJER!!! Hell yeah
@eBayMiniatureRescues
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So good! I’m hoping to see them in about a month, can’t wait :)
@k-dog495
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@@eBayMiniatureRescues had the pleasure of seeing them in Melbourne just before we got locked down, was pretty epic! Enjoy man you'll love it 🤘
Is it bad that I wanna paint up some 30k loyalist EC with the over-the-top weapons colours of 2nd Edition?
@eBayMiniatureRescues
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You should, that would be great!