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@Redtecho

11 ай бұрын

A heretic hurt me? Will Morgan and Morgan join the crusade?

@lukemcdonladson6648

11 ай бұрын

​@@Redtecho.... Hahahaha .... Gold 🥇 ... 🔥🔥🔥... Yes they will bro ✌️💚

@slackeratlarge575

11 ай бұрын

Morgan and Morgan. Always rolling 6’s for you

@thedungeondelver

11 ай бұрын

Seeing you do a Morgan & Morgan ad is trippy; he started here in the Orlando, FL area and I/we have been seeing his ads for literally decades (the firm was originally Morgan/Collin/Gilbert, then Morgan & Collin, then John Morgan, and now I guess he's brought in a family member and it's Morgan & Morgan). Sorry for the rambling.

@Mark-sz5rh

11 ай бұрын

I did love that part though. Top notch.

If only Morgan & Morgan was around when I accidentally stepped on a fully ranked unit of goblin spearmen.

You know back in 3rd edition with typical points caps of 1,500 when a squad of tactical marines with no upgrades was 300 pts anyone could really afford the game and you didnt need a bajillion models to play a game. The move to 2,000-2,500 pt games with cheaper pts per model just blew the game up in cost, a bunch of the kids at the local store couldnt play anymore.

@helotaxi

11 ай бұрын

And a box of tac marines was only about $20US. Orks and IG came in boxes of 20 and were also only $25 IIRC. I did field an IG army with over 100 minis at 1k pts in late 3rd, but all infantry guard really threw people for a loop.

@revilosmoth1101

11 ай бұрын

I played 3rd a lot back then. It was expensive already and armies still got pretty big at 1500 points. Space Marines were 15 points a model and a Rhino 50. This combined with vehicles sometimes being near indestructable lead to Rhino Spam list with at 10 Rhinos filles with Marines. A list like this was expensive back then and lets not get started on metal elite units. It is true however that the armies sizes kept growing, but there are so many more ways to get cheaper into the hobby than back in the days. Im rather sure I could get a similiar army like back in 3rd for less money now, its depends where you live of course. Not defending GWs pricing policy but I think people tend to dramatize.

@SeanHoltzman

11 ай бұрын

​@@helotaxiOkay, but lets not forget the insane cost of pewter blisters - $8-25/model (at least in the USA) and you sometimes you had to buy 10minimum of them... And that those only really started phasing out /starting/ mid/end 4th ed. My Tyranid Gargoyles cost me like $70+tax, my Old One (derpy pewter) Eye was $35, and same with the 3E xenomorph hive tyrant, and $15 for a Hive Guard, lictor was $12-15. Not horrendous, but plastic massively saved us so much money and opened the game to so many new people with the savings! Besides that one price plunge, the buying power hasn't /actually/ diminished a ton since 3E (has gotten worse since 4.5/5E), but it's becoming a full army game and not a Combat Patrol game did most of the value loss...

This video contains the most bonkers sponsorship reading I've seen. Discourse, once again, proves her comedy chops. I wonder what Morgan & Morgan's advertising department expected when handing over the cash?

@DiscourseMinis

11 ай бұрын

i have no idea, but they were happy with the ad :D

@elGordo1888

11 ай бұрын

@@DiscourseMinis WOW! Just, WOW!

@colinspeirs

11 ай бұрын

I really thought it was a bit, and then it became obvious that it wasn't. Umm. Huh

@alekz8580

11 ай бұрын

​@@DiscourseMinislooks like InternetHistorian has some competition for best sponsorship segments now.

Not sure what it's like now but back in the dark days of 7th edition WH40K, Malifaux and Warmahordes were a ray of bright sunshine in the TT skirmish game space.

@hyperbolehyde

11 ай бұрын

Malifaux is still going strong, and Warmahordes just launched 4th edition this year. Plus there’s hundreds of other great games like Carnevale, Bushido, Moonstone, Dystopian Wars, just to name a few. Wargaming is in a great place!

I love the models but i play One Page Rules instead. It's a lot more easier to play with my family. Especially with my 10y old boy. Best of both worlds...easy to play and still use the cool models. Thanks again for your input and content. Keep doing what you do.

@mikestrickler4299

11 ай бұрын

GW keeps promoting OPR unless you are so rich that you can't see any other systems/terrian

@RobotTanuki

11 ай бұрын

Yep, without OPR, I would have still have quitted 40k and never came back and GW would not see a single dime from me. OPR does a better job selling GW's miniatures to me than their own 40k ruleset does.

@bonkstrum9555

11 ай бұрын

I couldn't get my friends to play warhammer but love me some tau mechs. Opr let's my buddy who likes mantic game space dwarf minis and me with my tau play matches. Well we haven't played yet but we will this Monday. Super exited

played 2 games of combat patrol at work today, boss is on holiday and one of my work buddies was interested, first game took 3 hrs, 2nd took 1.5hrs. also booked into combat patrol tournament in october, safe to say im all in for combat patrol 🤩

As a personal injury lawyer and 40K player I loved this. Next time advertise my firm!

If you look back, Rogue Trader wasn't really designed to play the massive battles that we have today. It was designed around a more Combat Patrol sized game (i.e. Platoon level game). Even in 2nd edition the games weren't much bigger than around 2x Combat Patrol per side. At a certain point, you really have to scale down the mini's and the individual unit details to have ever increasing large games that don't take forever to play (Classic Battletech vs Alpha Strike). Even in historical gaming, it was common in large scale battles that a single mini actually represented a group of soldiers and not one dude. So a unit of 10 minis could actually represent hundreds of men and a commander mini (one figure/base) also included his entire retinue. This is probably one of the reasons that Mantic just announced an updated version of Warpath which was their 'big battle' sci-fi rule set and have stated that it will be supported with mini's that are 12-15mm scale. That way you can have epic sized battles that wouldn't take a lot of time, space, and money to be able to enjoy.

The cat pictures have come to life now. We look at cat "moving pictures" or "moo-vies" as the kids say.

Take a shot every time a "I quit 40k" video is posted

@Redtecho

11 ай бұрын

Dies in wishful actions instead of just posts.

@cmdrcoveryfire5900

11 ай бұрын

RIP my dude RIP. Alcohol poisoning real thing people.

@SuperDuperHappyTime

11 ай бұрын

I’ll inform the ER to have the stomach pump ready

@bendfocuspro

11 ай бұрын

So true. It's starting to really get ridiculous...

@tobygreen7116

11 ай бұрын

@@cmdrcoveryfire5900alcohol one of the worst substances on earth if used wrong!!!

Thank you Morgan & Morgan for bringing back skits.

It's a good concept. Reminds me of how Corvus Belli produced CodeOne, a version of Infinity with 1/4th of the units and more than half of the unit special abilities removed. You could play games from a single box in a small space and if you liked, move into Infinity N4 by learning only a few extra special rules.

@peterhartree1206

11 ай бұрын

...and yet every game I played of Code One, the person teaching me couldn't wait to get back to their games of normal Infinity

@TylerProvick

11 ай бұрын

@@peterhartree1206 sure. People who like N4 want to play N4.

@peterhartree1206

11 ай бұрын

@@TylerProvick doesn't leave many people left to play Code One though!

@TylerProvick

11 ай бұрын

@@peterhartree1206 true, it is a successful gateway to the full game.

Discourse, thank you once again for taking the time to share your passion for the hobby and your hope that it can be even better. For Wargaming to be the best it can be, we need people like you who are willing to challenge its problems.

Games Workshop's ongoing war on its fans is a classic example of enshittification. First, it woos you. Next, it screws you. Then it ruins everything else, including itself.

In. 100% for the continuing saga of Morgan and Morgan rectal injuries

I hope people realise how outstanding your videos are.

@DiscourseMinis

11 ай бұрын

thanks :3

@freakishuproar1168

11 ай бұрын

Some of us know! :3

@kodosdh

11 ай бұрын

And I came around some post yesterday saying that Discourse and Goobertown are the most toxic channels which let me conclude people don't even watch the videos but just look at the thumbnail and make a conclusion what te videos must be about

@johnthompson4969

11 ай бұрын

@kodosdh silly isn't it, bith channels are great. Personally, anyone who uses the term "toxic" is a belter.

@unkelTP

11 ай бұрын

They don't. This is the shit-side of the hobby. Influencers and gossip'ers.

next level sponsorship I hope you get tons of offers

It also is far harder to "cheat" at, considering the Tau cheater that had his wins reduced from 6 to 0. There were so many rules he was lying about and cheating with that nobody was 100% sure just which part of his list and abilities were BS. Hint: They all were basically.

@TheDanskMagnus

11 ай бұрын

Link?

@Jackalblade9

11 ай бұрын

@@TheDanskMagnus Aye, sounds like there's a story here I'd love to know more about.

@technomancermagus8357

11 ай бұрын

@@Jackalblade9 kzread.info/dash/bejne/aKJn2pirncjZgdY.html Even if you don't entirely trust the other players claims about how he cheated in their games, the event clearly revoked his wins and put him from the top to last place.

@piotrjeske4599

11 ай бұрын

Pff l played my GK nemezis dreadnoughts as the sword being D2 , same as those of other faction sweep weapons, no one noticed it was wrong heck l didn't notice till l saw a thread where GK crying how the swords were D1.

Love the glasses, Discord! A great new addition. As ever, super-valid points. Damn your videos are good - I've really enjoyed playing combat patrol as well, and I've introduced a few players that way as well .... and it didn't cost too much in resin either (he he he)

Back in 1981, GW published a sci-fi skirmish ruleset called "Spacefarers". It was a small "Classic Traveller LBB" size softback. It was really meant as a game to encourage purchase of the Citadel miniatures. We did buy some minis but we mainly just used cardboard tokens. It was meant as a squad-level game but we played many, many hours of it with some fairly large "squads" with tens of soldiers on each team (sort of up to a platoon size, I guess) and up to 4-5 teams in game. We made up our own additional rules, including weapons and equipment drawn largely from GDW's "Traveller" and FGU's "Space Opera" TTRPGs. Obviously, the former had "Striker" as its tabletop combat rules, which came out at around the same time as "Spacefarers", but we stuck with our own little hybrid system for years as it was easy to introduce players into it, and it was quick to play too.

I love the lore, love the moidels, but play against myself on my table and customise my own scenarios. Am I losing out, possibly. yet, possibly not.

@toastle8005

11 ай бұрын

Same, I really like that honestly, it’s a completely different experience to playing against a person (which is still really great) and it’s kinda zen to just lay out the scenario and let the dice write out a story, like you’re watching a small scene from a book. Just setting up some marines in a dugout and throwing Orks at them to see what happens is a nice way to unwind and stretch the legs of your imagination a bit.

This one had mom in laughing stitches - again

BATTLETECH BABYYYYYYYYY (It’s actually quite sad, I grew up on 40K and seeing it fall so hard is extremely disheartening)

@FelixstoweFoamForge

11 ай бұрын

Me too.....

God, I've missed the Discourse skits. 😂

this is basically why im planning on getting 500 points of each faction, so my friends and i can do quick games and test out rules and stuff to determine which armies they want to go all in on

you mentioned in your previous video a 40k variant with chain of command dice activation i have search the internet for this be cant find it any were please were did you find the variant

Lmao you killed me at "iron halo first!"

Combat Patrol is like Bizzaro World DBA (De Bellis Antiquitatis)! DBAmmmawut? You say. DBA was a 1990 historical miniatures game which broke all previous convetions for its type and day. In DBA ALL armies consisted of 12 bases, each with 2 to five minis on them. Each base was designated as on of a number of generic troop types, such as Knights, Blades, Pikes, Bows, Light Horse etc, etc. These troop types all had different combat values and interactions when fighting other troop types. The small number of minis meant a single army giving a slice cut an armed force from history could be represented by 12 to 50 minis. Games were fast and very tactical. Given the speed of building an army and how fast it played, you could have real time campaigns with your friends over a Saturday of gaming covering an entire war. And since the armies were cheap, fast to paint and you got a of fun out of them, you naturally painted several. Had fun with Roman heavy infantry armies? Try their more volatile glass cannon barbarian enemies! Hate your friends high medieval french knights? Get some Saracen horse archers for them to chase and get cut to pieces by! Love Romans really, really much? Get one army for each distinct epoch of their Empire! (Yes, this is the equivalent to having multiple Space Marine armies. Romans are the Space Marines of historical gaming.) The game later got an expansion where you could play with many more minis than just 12 stands, and this became on of the major tournament sets during the 1990s, but it, like Warhammer got rather bogged down with all the different options, time of play and increasingly ultra competitive player base. However, DBA was, unlike Combat Patrol, cheap as chips. Which is exactly why you're spot on - CP should be cheaper, otherwise it loses the main appeal of the format. You should be able to build sideways and explore, go every which way you want. Some minis should be able to to be used in different armies, for example. And as for the balance of CP... I believe it when I see it. DBA did this differently - the armies were not balanced. Most major powers from the same era were decently ok with each other, but there were always those who performed worse. However, this was mitigated by two factors: One was the terrain system. A major power's army usually had a higher Aggression factor than smaller ones, meaning that the worse army usually got to pick how much terrain was to be used. This was how your angry Irish late 7th century turnip throwers could engage and win against Norman colonisers on horseback. You just filled as much of the table you could with forests and bogs and ambushed hose pesky Anglos. The second factor was the campaign system which made losing players able to join forces with their conquerors and come their aid as allied forces. This meant everyone got to play multiplayer games even they lost their two player games, and when their conqueror lost a battle (sometimes because you "helped" in a very unhelpful way in those multiplayer battles), you could throw off your chains of vasselage and once more cry out for Shoes and Freedom! Anyhooo, this is what sprung into my mind when watching your video. I wish CP would be more like DBA, but I guess we'll have to settle with the timeline we're in for now. Thanks for coming to my Tedx Talk about old wargames. (Next time, why PanzerBlitz was a better game than Legiones Imperalis ever will be!)

This entire video sums up my experience with Bighammer…

I also feel that the boardgamers are the main target demographic for the warhammer entry products - and thats also the problem: you get a handful of miniatures just to start you off ......fror the price of a good boardgame. Oh and you have to assemble them on your own. And download and print your own rules for them. Oh and unlike boardgames there never is a solo option so your opponent going to need a box too of course. And you need some space and scenery to play. so much cheaper than boardgames and so much more convenient. Go for it.

@malakimphoros2164

11 ай бұрын

2 or 3 good boardgames actually. I bought bloody Zooloretto for 15$ one day.

I love to play 40k but I recently got disabled (lost my right eye) and Now Cannot paint the figures very well, So now I have to find a consignment painter, Any suggestions?

I've got a lot of co-workers that want to get into, but don't know where to start. I kept telling them about the free rules and just to get the combat patrol boxes. I even recommended printing out full combat patrol boxes for a bottle of resin which is 34 bucks, even then people don't want to put in the work or learn. I stopped talking about 40k at work as a whole. My gf is excited to play with me, but it's really hard for her to learn/remember all the rules. It's really exhausting having to look at 2 different armies and remember every statline and abilities. I know sisters of battle, orks, necrons, and space marines by heart now tho...lol. I got 9-10 combat patrols printed out and pretty much ready to be played, even have a board with terrain, but it's really hard finding people to play with. I've decided to switch to OPR to play with my gf, since it's got less rules.

I was interested, then the prices came up. I'll stick to what I got. BattleTech, and BattleTech: Alpha Strike (much simpler rules, faster to play, or larger armies). You can buy the standard boxed set of the game for $60, and it includes 8 unpainted plastic mechs to field a standard 4-vs-4 game. Even better, in BattleTech it is lore accurate that every faction pretty much has every kind of mech in the original time period. So, those 8 mechs can be rearranged so each time you play you have a different set of mechs. And that is just the boxed set. You can still do what we did and make a "miniature" out of cut up card stock and a pen. Hell, the Starter boxed set only has 2 mechs in it, but has a bunch of cardstock minis, so that is normal to make your own. 3D printing your own units is also frowned on in BattleTech, but its not to the same vitriol that Warhammer players take it. BattleTech is played more for fun than anything else, so nobody cares too much about things like unpainted minis or such, or that your mini's are 3D printed ones.

For a newcomer, combat patrols are just expensive boxes full of gray unassembled plastic. If you want newbs to the game, you'd need to have a separate full collection of necessary tools and paints too... incl. f.ex. brushes, different glues, cutters, clippers, pincers, primers, paints, basing materials, varnishes, maybe even airbrush for armor heavy patrols... everything that would make starting "convenient and painless"... and at a lowish price point (and maybe lower respective "starter" quality) and in-depth how-to guides. All in one box. Modern attention span and willingness to jump through hoops isn't imo the same as it used to be, especially with whole predigested entertainment industry acting as its competition, so even if the IP is cool to ppl, the step into miniatures is a whole new Cthulhu to worship.

That law firm ad was a wild ride.

Combat patrol might get people into the game, but when they see the paywall in front of that 90% will just quit.

Thank you for what you do Discorse ! ! !

Sad, my dad had a phone like Morgan and Morgan in the early 90’s. $5 for the first three minutes and $3 a minute after that. Ah, the good ole days. Good vid Discourse, nice glasses.

Combat patrol is nice, but I'd like to see this expanded upon, so you can have options. So a player gets a Combat Patrol, but then buy more minis, so they should then be able to sub out things from the combat patrol and add other things, or even just add to it. The thing is that Combat Patrol is likely going to be horrifically balanced, as some armies boxes are way better than others. I think by keeping the small size, but allowing players to field different options to what is in combat patrol boxes, it might actually be decent. I'd definitely like a more fast, paced, scaled down 40k experience, but I don't want to be limited to what comes in the starter set.

Sideways is what I've done inadvertently. I have dark angels, necron, votann, and aeldari. It's become a house game night. My son, wife, and I will choose an army at random and play. My wife now has plans to get 2 of her own, sisters and world eaters. So yeah, this is honestly fun and easy at home!

Morgan & Morgan made me smile.

I honestly really agree with the angle that these boxes are good for established warhammer players. Khorne Daemons are one of my aos armies and I'm planning to grab a couple boxes, and honestly once the Tyranids box comes out on its own I might grab it too

I was encouraged that the Organized Play Pack made mention of Combat Patrol tournaments. I would participate in a hot second!

Your Vince was feckin awesome 😂😂😂

Woot! Woot! Loved the shout out to the Mantic affordability. Cheers Discord! I'd love to see a real review of that game from you especially since the game is getting all new rules updates this month!

Any chance of you finding an affiliate in the US?

Has GW made a good warhammer? The answer may shock you!

Glass Cannon Eldar FTW!

@DiscourseMinis

11 ай бұрын

thanks Kev! I'm so rubbiush with them :(

Omg! A Morgan and Morgan spoof! Lmao that made my day. I just heard one of their commercials 😊😂

Question how hard is it to sell my collection soon

why are morgan and morgan ads the best ad reads on this platform rn?

I did the combat patrol lateral with Killteam and have a kill team for every faction boxed up so I can play with anyone like a board game.

Are you going to paint up the marines for the Leviathan box combat patrol? Because we'd all love to see some Iron Sovereigns Terminators

Would have been a good laugh to name the law firm Gorkin and Morkin

gosh, i hope your Dante will be fine, Discourse

@DiscourseMinis

11 ай бұрын

never gonna win a golden demon now...

@SymbioteMullet

11 ай бұрын

​@@DiscourseMinismaybe a golden shower...

I was so hyped for it. I could finally get people to try it....i played two games and its soo unbalanced it just wasnt fun.

@DiscourseMinis

11 ай бұрын

oh really? i had some bad experiences (namely the astra militarum v custodes) but otherwise it felt good

I agree that Combat Patrol is probably the best introduction for new players in the hobby at this current time but I still feel that it is a lot of money for someone just wanting to dip their toe into the hobby. From my experience, the best intro for new players into the game was the old "pocket money" packs that GW used to produce. These packs cost around £5 and were very accessible, you got 3-5 minis in a pack from different factions and were great for young players with only a pocket money budget. My son when he was 6-7 years old, used to love going to the store with me and getting new set to build/paint and play with. Over time, this evolved into buying squads and then rulebooks and by the time he was 12-14 years old he had a real interest in the game with many miniatures that didn't break the bank. Getting rid of these pocket money sets was a big mistake in my opinion.

Another click bait title!!!! I'm in!!!

I want to field a Potato Miner army in Combat Patrol.

Great video yet again!

Yes we still look at cat pics. From Ancient Egypt to today, cat pics will be there till Horus betrays the Emperor.

Thanks for the explanation: it finally clicked with me what Combat Patrol is meant for. However, I must ask: wouldn't it be better to direct new gamers to other, non-GW games?

The saddest part, seeing the $160 price tag as someone that quit playing in 6th or 7th edition and thinking, "Oh, thats not that bad". Jeebus!

Which state isn’t Morgan & Morgan in?

Discord you should play a game of combat patrol and bighammer using alternating activations like OPR. So we see if it improves game play. Love your content.

Wait??? We are suppose to paint them?? I thought they were suppose to be grey!

Dear Discourse, I hate clickbait titles but yours are the only ones I've seen that are tongue-in-cheek and funny. Please keep them coming. If only for the sour comments from haters. 😁

After following your rants for a while I finally have found a post that I totally agree with. I even think there is room for a combat patrol tournament environment...and I've got a few ideas about that too! Well done. Keep ranting. 😊

a very good video.. honestly after playing 10th i gave up on the game.. but maybe i will give combat patrol a go some time

Warhammer is below golf, hockey, and football (including gear), but above soccer, pool, and basketball (incluing shoes) regarding price.

Once i slipped on ice and dumped my whole empire army all over the street. If mogan & morgan was around then i could have sued the universe

This might be the best Combat Patrol video I've seen.

Every argument you made for Combat Patrol I've been making for Kill Team for 2 years lol. I've got like 8 different Kill Teams, and I'm about to finish 2 Combat Patrols. Less is definitely more!

Combat Patrol sounds like a fun alternativ. The price however is too high still. I get a box at 125€ from GW directly, which can be as few as 9 Space Marines and a Redemotor Dreadnought, which is quite extreme to be honest. While something Like the World Eaters or GSC feel more reasonable with 30+ models, you will also need Terrain, dice and Tools if you First start out. ASOIAF for example gives you a starter box with 4 units and different characters, which always comes with 50+ Infantry models (or less, but bigger cavalry and Monster Models), trays, dice, cardboard ruler and terrain, cards and rules for just 100€. And no assembly required. You decide where you get more value and Game fun for your money.

Combat Patrols are basically how Kill Team should've been Smallhammer. Now it's like 3 different sizes. Kill Team, Combat Patrol and than BigHammer

I was right, the new glasses suit you very nicely . Also, if Cimbat Patrol has too high a price entry point. why not a smaller Kill Team sized version for younger players ?

This seems to be a rehash of the army starter boxes from 5th edition mixed with the starter rules from the starter sets...

The new glasses get a big thumbs up.

My Ork Combat Patrol just came in. I am very happy.

Patrol already fails at my locals. Everyone preferred to make their own 500pts

I wish I had a UK Friend that would send me models for those Wayland Game prices. lol

I'm glad that I did my time in the trenches of 40k back in 2nd edition in the 1990s when I was young and needed the money 🤷🏻‍♂️ then I was also experimenting and branched into Blood Bowl like a true Gogmagog giant in Londinium🎉

😂 Brilliant, thanks Morgan and Morgan 😂😂😂

Are those new glasses? I really like them, even if they aren't!

I didn't know Morgan and Morgan were over seas lol.

I didn't expect to encounter a video that would actually make me give a semi-serious thought to a GW product these days. I also didn't expect to encounter a video that would make me want to be injured in an accident so I could hire Morgan & Morgan! 😶

Thanks for your analysis

I particularly enjoyed the Morgan&Morgan skit, especially when, at the end the camera stayed on the guy with the condom his head and the power axe stuck in his a*s too long and he looked uncomfortable. That said I’ve got 20+ years of Death Guard and Nurgle Demons massed and painted ready to bring all of existence into Papa Nurgles warm embrace. My main gripe is the new editions every 15 days. Cost wise I don’t need to buy much anymore…thankfully. I get my stuff from 3rd party individuals from Asia and Eastern Europe at 1/3 the price or better…real stuff to.🤫 I do throw GW a bone on occasion. Wish a gaming nerd Billionaire would buy the company out and set things right.

@B1-997

11 ай бұрын

If Henry Cavil bought GW it will be a golden age.

I love cat instas😂, omg I want a place on your shelf too😮

Honestly, while good in theory...I just can't truly get into Combat Patrol. I felt it was too restrictive when it was purely what's in the box, meaning if you don't like the combat patrol box for the army you like (Death Guard "Oops all Poxwalkers" comes to mind) then you're SOL....then I realized it's even worse. Not only is it purely what's in the box with no customization to roster...but even the unit's loadouts are cemented in, what you want that guy to have a Flamer...to bad, your CP doesn't use flamers...even though the box has them. Personally I think if they'd gone with the Kill Team route of Here's this team right out the box, and if you get tired of that, you can swap out units and their weapon loadouts. As it stands I just couldn't see people wanting to play many games using the same thing every time and CP boxes are expensive, so it's gonna be a very niche crowd getting different armies versions instead of just expanding their army for a full game. IDK...I guess at the end of the day I just hate restrictions (actually an issue I have with 10th....leader restrictions).

OK... getting used to the new face windows..... finding myself gazing into Discourses eyes .... can't look away.... HELP ME.... PLEASE HELP ME..... AAAAARRRRRGGGGGGHHHH .....

It got me! Picked up Combat Patrol two weeks ago to play Warhammer 40K for the first time.

I always liked smaller games. I found that 500 was a good spot for game length. The only problem was balance. Most factions could dominate with a very cheesy list. I am thinking we need a new index list for 500 points like combat patrol. Maybe 2 or 3 options for stratagems, traits and secondaries. Something like combat patrol plus. Maybe you can only have 1 of each unit with battle line being the exception. OR specific units will have this exception.

What a video! You always manage to add value to the wargaming/rpg community. Wish haters would realize it’s done out of love.

Can Orkamania run wild in Combat Patrol? Kans? Dreads? Gunz? Red Ones go faster? Dakka dakka? Waaaaaaaugh!?

Morgan and Morgan has offices in Ireland ? ! ? ! ? Chist, they are EVERYWHARE ! ! !

Ty my dear for having principals during an age of horseshet.

I was bleeding, and went to laughing at your discourse, and had to deal with the internal sensors - BLEEDING! Deal with this and get get back to you. Ah, you know me, Antlers

I quit playing Warhammer a month ago because I was tired of driving an hour to and from the meetup only to feel my opponent had a tailored list EVERY FU***** TIME. you had my attention with combat patrol thinking "maybe I'll get back into 40k with Combat patrol." right up until you mentioned the full turn system. FU** everything about that. Kill team is better than either one of the mentioned games. nice video though, very informative and not boring. Also love that you brought up MANTIC GAMES.