Aqida Breakdown for New Muslims by Dr. Shadee Elmasry (Ashari vs Athari) ||

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00:00 Being public with your Madhab & Aqida
04:30 How do I choose Aqida?
12:00 When do you need to choose Aqida/Madhab?
17:20 Ashari, Maturidi vs Athari
24:00 Hanbali Aqida vs Ibn Taymiah
27:00 Who are the new Atharis
33:00 How to approach studying Aqidah
36:10 Athari on Asharis on (Yad) "Hand"
49:15 Building of Slovak Masjid and following Madhab
54:30 Why Slovaks should do dawah to Slovaks
Aqida Breakdown for New Muslims by Dr. Shadee Elmasry (Ashari vs Athari) || @SafinaSociety
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  • @humayoonismail1876
    @humayoonismail18763 ай бұрын

    As a born muslim i found this to be a great podcast. Keep doing what you're doing!!

  • @----f
    @----f4 ай бұрын

    This was a very well-informed and necessary conversation that the muslim online space desperately needed. Thank you for sharing this, brother Jan

  • @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

    @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

    3 ай бұрын

    view : **Yaqeen Institute Member Says Shirk Is Sunnah** by - الفرقة الناجية Al-Firqah An-Najiyah

  • @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

    @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

    3 ай бұрын

    Also if you edit in the speaker has deviance in shirk and it's better to view AbdurRahman Hasan Athari vs Ashari to learn Aqida based on evidence, that will be awesome.

  • @----f

    @----f

    3 ай бұрын

    @@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 why are you commenting this everywhere. you clearly didn't understand the video. regardless, I'm not interested in the school of theology you're promoting

  • @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

    @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

    3 ай бұрын

    @@----f Do you say you don't follow Quran & sunna as that I promote 1st, not any school. I still have to finish the video but this is a post to show errors of the speaker in Tawhid, sahaba were one aqida (6 pillars of iman) and one usul. They differed in fiq (details of 5 pillars of Islam)

  • @Prizkov99
    @Prizkov993 ай бұрын

    This is my first video of Jan and I instantly subscribed because even as a born muslim guy i never had the chance to learn about different Aqeedah concepts in details like this before. Love this brother Jan for the sake of Allah subhanallahtala. Hope to see 1000s of attendees in your masjid InshaAllah.

  • @user-lr9se6wb9d

    @user-lr9se6wb9d

    3 ай бұрын

    Once again

  • @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

    @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

    3 ай бұрын

    isn't this the guy who supported shirk, not good.

  • @Prizkov99

    @Prizkov99

    3 ай бұрын

    @@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 i didn't see his vid about shirk yet. Can you share the link please.

  • @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

    @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Prizkov99 brother or sister view : **Yaqeen Institute Member Says Shirk Is Sunnah** by - الفرقة الناجية Al-Firqah An-Najiyah

  • @Prizkov99

    @Prizkov99

    3 ай бұрын

    @@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 Yikes, I had no idea about this side of him. JazakAllah Khairan for the insight brother. I will edit my comment.

  • @sahilahmed6959
    @sahilahmed69594 ай бұрын

    JazakAllah Slovak muslim you really helping to increase my knowledge

  • @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

    @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

    3 ай бұрын

    Also if you edit in the speaker has deviance in shirk and it's better to view AbdurRahman Hasan Athari vs Ashari to learn Aqida based on evidence, that will be awesome.

  • @erminization
    @erminization3 ай бұрын

    Jan, I have been following you for a couple of years now, but I must admit that this was a groundbreaking podcast. May Allah reward you, amin.

  • @jantheslovakmuslim

    @jantheslovakmuslim

    3 ай бұрын

    really nice?

  • @peaceful_warrior7627

    @peaceful_warrior7627

    3 күн бұрын

    Akhi Idk what ur reply means, but the brother prayed for you, which requires you to say “ameen, wa iyyak”

  • @Seeking4JJ1
    @Seeking4JJ13 ай бұрын

    Ma Shā Allāh. May Allāh bless you, brother Jan. What you are doing in your country is a real struggle. May Allāh make you from the revivers of this religion and grant you ease and divine support. Raees, your brother from South Africa.

  • @AbdulHakim-uq1nv
    @AbdulHakim-uq1nv3 ай бұрын

    As a born muslim this was very informative for me. Jazzak-Allahu khairan

  • @Abdirahman83
    @Abdirahman832 ай бұрын

    Mashallah much love and respect from Somalia 🇸🇴

  • @samueljamie4426
    @samueljamie44264 ай бұрын

    Dr. Shadee is a gem mashallah. I benefited so much from him

  • @asadjavaid847
    @asadjavaid8473 ай бұрын

    Very important topic. I didnt know about aqeeda until i started watching salafi/ahle hadith videos, got a bit confused by what they said before i only knew basics and i think basic is enough for me. Hanafi in madhab and basic aqeeda from Quran and sunnah

  • @jantheslovakmuslim

    @jantheslovakmuslim

    3 ай бұрын

    Solid

  • @saracentiano

    @saracentiano

    3 ай бұрын

    Good enough. Ashari and Maturidi arose to face Mutazilites who are no longer there.

  • @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

    @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

    3 ай бұрын

    @@saracentiano they also mixed in some of there errors too but to a lesser degree. Sh. ebn Hanbal himself also refuted them. Imam Ashari was raised mutazili and later followed ebn Kulab and then even later followed Imam Barbahari & students of Sh. ebn Hanbal!

  • @muslim5067

    @muslim5067

    3 ай бұрын

    When you see these different sects(not madhabs), then you will discover that it is the innovations that divided the ummah. The Mutaridi and Asharis are basically reformed Sufis/Mutazilas. Unfortunately, remnants of the beliefs they endeavoured to reform, remained with them. So you see Deobandis split into Mutaridi and Asharis. They are close but also have differences that cause big arguments between them. I would say, take the clearest route. The route of no innovations, the middle way, the route that do not need philosophical explanations but solely rely on authentic Hadith. I really believe the simple Muslim is better off than the the one who follow controversial matters. Please see surah 3 verse 7. Allah Almighty dues not expect us to know the answers to everything. People like some philosophers have gone astray by looking for unnecessary interpretations. Allah is All hearing, All seeing , Never sleeps . He SWT is not like his creation and he merely says Be and it Is. If Allah talks about His hand , His foot.etc. Rest assured it is not like your hand and foot. Allah says he is above His throne, He descends to the lowest heaven in the last part of the night then put a full stop to this sentence. It is matters of the unseen that is not going to benefit anybody for having opinions about it. Choose Sallaffiya. Not extreme Salafis . The creed of all the 4 imams were the same. They followed the Sunnah and the companions of the first 3 generations. May Allah SWT guide us. Islam is simple but the Thinkers and innovators complicated it.

  • @asadjavaid847

    @asadjavaid847

    3 ай бұрын

    @@muslim5067 i consider Ashari, maturidi, athari muslims all of there scholars did what they understood was right and Allah knows best

  • @SheikhDenizTezcan
    @SheikhDenizTezcan3 ай бұрын

    Jazakallah khair, good content brother.

  • @TheSigma192
    @TheSigma192Ай бұрын

    Brave effort....Allah will give Barakah IA.... Steadfastness with sincerity is the key

  • @doctorikon
    @doctorikon3 ай бұрын

    wonderful bro. Dr. Elmasry has knowledge and wisdom.

  • @user-in6od4zs6d
    @user-in6od4zs6d3 ай бұрын

    Alhamdulillah Jan, Dr. Shadee is the right person to guide you on Aqeedah. May Allah SWT bless and guide you forever.

  • @Sayz813
    @Sayz8134 ай бұрын

    JazakaAllahu khayr

  • @inconvenient-truth99
    @inconvenient-truth992 ай бұрын

    Wonderful discussion! Jazaakumullaahu khairan brothers

  • @n.21
    @n.214 ай бұрын

    Beneficial content. Jazak Allah khair

  • @moonmoonStar
    @moonmoonStar3 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much for this interview or podcast. Much benefits for us. May Allah bless both Dr Shadee and our bother Jan.

  • @homtanks7259
    @homtanks72594 ай бұрын

    JazakAllah'u khairan brothers

  • @leapoffaith6982
    @leapoffaith69823 ай бұрын

    Great episode brother

  • @user-nc2ur5vo3l
    @user-nc2ur5vo3l5 күн бұрын

    JazakAllah Khair

  • @farleymarly2575
    @farleymarly25753 ай бұрын

    Now this will be interesting

  • @emptythrone75
    @emptythrone754 ай бұрын

    Maybe the thing that Dr Shadee didn't mention is that the first thing Muslims did whenever they conquer a country or a city they build a Masjid there to be the center where new Muslims learn their religion, lots of the companions immigrated there to teach people, and among the first three generations after the prophet peace be upon him and his companions, people immerged that do "Ijtihad" for themselves first to try and understand what Allah wants them to do and behave in new scenarios that didn't existed before, and how the prophet peace be upon him would deal with those issues if he was there with them, so they investigate the Quran and Hadith and try to understand it like the companions did, because the companions lived with the prophet for so long and know him and know how he thinks and how he would deal with new unprecedented matters, those "ijtihadat" is what becomes later "Fiqh", and it like legislation, so independent scholars produced "Fiqh" to benefit themselves and do things as much as Allah want based on Quran, Sunnah, and what the companions agreed on. Madhabs are the way of making that "ijtihad" based on great scholars and all of them are outside the Arabian peninsula except Malik who lived in Medina, and it wasn't only four madhabs in the beginning, there was lots of great scholars alongside with Malik, ibn Hanbal, AlShafii, and Abu Hanifa, but their students weren't as good as the others and they didn't spread it and evolve it, like Al Aozaai, Al Thawri and many others, the state never interfered with scholars' "ijtihadat" and "Fiqh" remained the source of legislation, doing the job of parliament until 19th century when the Ottoman empire changed that by bringing western laws and becoming "a modern state" causing the majority of Muslim ummah to be affected by modernity and what came after it, and causing the state to be collapsed a few decades after that. The difference between modern laws and "Fiqh" is that scholars used reasoning and have both evidence from Quran and Sunnah and rational reasons that have more benefits and less harm to people and environment, because Shari'a law is a moral law to begin with. While modern laws produced by politicians who're in the majority of them are liberals and secular only see the political interests regardless of the moral aspect of it, without any justification, the majority said so then we're going to do it.

  • @khairt1731
    @khairt17314 ай бұрын

    58:20 Islam and worldwide cultures are compatible. Islam is a religion for the whole Humanity. When Islam came to Persia, the Persians didnt all of a sudden started wearing turbans and thobes and started eating arabic food. They kept their culture with a new Islamic identity.

  • @immortalpickle3104

    @immortalpickle3104

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes it took them around 200-300 years to convert wholly and some of our best scholars are Persian

  • @FaisalKhan-md2tj

    @FaisalKhan-md2tj

    12 күн бұрын

    I disagree. Example being Indian culture completely taken from hindu scriptures and is nowhere near compatible with Islam.

  • @Anotsu123
    @Anotsu1233 ай бұрын

    This brother's heart is on the right path.

  • @Rowhanthewellwisher
    @Rowhanthewellwisher3 ай бұрын

    May Allah give you success in this world and the hereafter my brother

  • @miahmakhon
    @miahmakhon2 ай бұрын

    This was a great podcast

  • @aminaryaee1987
    @aminaryaee19873 ай бұрын

    Well done nice job

  • @lebanesegooner
    @lebanesegooner13 күн бұрын

    Amazing work brother Jan, May allah reward you

  • @BenIqra
    @BenIqra2 ай бұрын

    Very interesting podcast mashallah! ❤

  • @jantheslovakmuslim

    @jantheslovakmuslim

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks Ben! ;)

  • @each1teach1

    @each1teach1

    2 ай бұрын

    Be careful guys. Yad means hand.

  • @jantheslovakmuslim

    @jantheslovakmuslim

    2 ай бұрын

    means? :) @@each1teach1

  • @peacenow6618
    @peacenow661818 күн бұрын

    جزاک اللہ خیرا

  • @AbuZee1
    @AbuZee12 ай бұрын

    Excellent podcast purporting traditional islaam, JazakAllahu khayran. ❤

  • @Salma_xx
    @Salma_xx2 ай бұрын

    A very good interview allōhûmma barik

  • @salahelhaddad4872
    @salahelhaddad48723 ай бұрын

    Bism Allah ma sha'allah brother may God bless you

  • @realitybeckons4120
    @realitybeckons41203 ай бұрын

    Jazakallahu Khair

  • @peacenow6618
    @peacenow661818 күн бұрын

    May Allah Accept your works, and make it a means of acceptance and Guidance for the Ummah!

  • @manzoorahmad-xc7dd
    @manzoorahmad-xc7dd3 ай бұрын

    جان صاحب آپ کائنات کی تخلیق کا مقصد تلاش کرتے ہوئے آخری منزل پر پہنچ گئے ہیں ماشاءاللہ 🇵🇰ایک پاکستانی مسلمان

  • @GodPilledZen
    @GodPilledZen4 ай бұрын

    Much needed thank you

  • @PolatBarkinPekbak
    @PolatBarkinPekbak18 күн бұрын

    BarakAllahu Fīkum 🌹

  • @dancinginmoon6795
    @dancinginmoon67953 ай бұрын

    everything is the same for me... the important thing is that we carry out everything based on the provisions outlined in the Qur'an and the Hadiths.There will always be differences... So Tabayyun knowledge is necessary, so that we can respect each other.

  • @mikhan5191

    @mikhan5191

    2 ай бұрын

    No. Not Qur'an & Hadiths! Islam has always been Qur'an & Sunnah. Big difference.

  • @muslimuddin3656
    @muslimuddin36563 ай бұрын

    Maturidi is a name that is given to hanafis by there opponent, they used to call themselves "ahlus sunnat" or "ahlul haqq" This is how hanafis describes themselves when they are dealing the aqeedah matters But later on they start to be called maturidis because imam abul mansur almaturudi was the one, who defended hanafi aqeeda standpoints by reasons and debates Aftersometime maturidies said, no problem, its doesn't matters if we are called maturidis and they accepted the name If you want to learn hanafi aqidahs, then take the book "alaqeedah attahawyyiah" Imam tahawi was a from the family of one of the greatest students of imam shafii Imam tahayi has written in this book the aqeeda of abu hanifa, and his two greatest students abu usuf and muhammed and its very simple and easy

  • @jantheslovakmuslim

    @jantheslovakmuslim

    3 ай бұрын

    Already read this a while ago :)

  • @muslim5067

    @muslim5067

    3 ай бұрын

    Imam Abdul Wahab Rahimullah wrote excellent books on Tawheed etc. The ones who brand people Wahabis, did not read his books. Everything he wrote is backed up by Quran and authentic Hadith.

  • @halimvebic6578

    @halimvebic6578

    3 ай бұрын

    @@muslim5067no one says he didnt but he misinterprets them

  • @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

    @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@halimvebic6578 Can you give an example my brother of a misinterpretation? Hopefully with a reference!

  • @Baron8199

    @Baron8199

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 The Salafists has nothing to do with Dahawi Aqida, they're just using him because he is Salf, to be sure just google this : (where the Tahawi Aqida contradicts the Salaf) and look what the Salafists are saying about him

  • @An86115
    @An861153 ай бұрын

    And We made them a precedent and an example for the later peoples.

  • @hikkato88
    @hikkato882 ай бұрын

    After learning Islam for years , I came with a conclusion that Allah preserved Al-Quran through Sayyidina Uthman Ibn Affan , Fiqh through Imam Hanafi, Imam Maliki, Imam Syafie, Imam Hanbali. Tawheed through Imam Ash'ari Walmaturidi , Attahaawi . 'Ilmu Al-Ihsan (Tasawwuf) Imam Ghazali. Alhamdulillah the majority of Islam today either from the 4 Mazhab and also the Aqeedah of Ash'ari Walmaturidi 😊

  • @EvrimUzun-vr5ds
    @EvrimUzun-vr5ds21 күн бұрын

    Thanks

  • @a.hassan8922
    @a.hassan89223 ай бұрын

    Masha Allah

  • @reflection5057
    @reflection505723 күн бұрын

    I don't know you but for the benefit of all let me put up some clarification here: 1. Ibne Taymiyah DOES not differ with the hanabila (the atharis) in usool of aqeeda. He might have different conclusion from some of them in the furoo' of the aqeeda , i.e the specifics of the subsidiary issues similar to how ashaaira have differred from each other in usool and furoo of aqeeda with each other. To be precise, Razi differs from ghazaali, ghazaali differs from Baaqilaani to the extent that no two ash'ari aalim are unanimous on the usool and furoo of their aqeeda! Read the works of Al-Amidi where he suspends most of the issues and is unable to reach a conclusion on aqeeda as he founds ash'ari scholars on both sides of the spectrum! So Dr.Shadee's claim that atharis have a different aqeeda than Shaikhul Islam ibne taymiyah is a purely bogus claim. Second, go read safareeni for yourself and you will see how they take aqeeda from shaikhul Islam. Third, Dr.Shadee says that the Hanabila just read the text and pass on without implying any meaning from the text and this is pure lie! and let me give you the simplest example to portray my case. The biggest skirmish between the hanabila and the mu'tazila was related to the kalaam (speech) of Allah azz wa jall and the mu'tazila did figurative interpretation of the meaning of 'kalaamullah' (word/speech of God) as 'a speech created by God' but the hanabila objected to it and insisted on it being haqiqatan kalamullah (real speech of Allah) the point here is that the mu'tazila would not have any qualms with the atharis/hanbalis had they been just passing the attributes without implying a meaning to it that too a real meaning (haqeeqatan). And same goes for hand and other attributes of Allah. In fact if you read the debates between mu'tazila and imam Ahmad you would clearly see them accusing imam Ahmad of tajseem and believing that Allah is above the seven heavens above his arsh! So no point in criticising imam Ahmad had he been passing on istiwa without the real meaning attached to it! So ponder and do not be like herd with no aql!

  • @saracentiano
    @saracentiano3 ай бұрын

    Dear Jan, Assalaam alaikum. This is a brilliant playlist/series idea that you are doing with Shaikh Yasir and Shaikh Shadee and others to come. Will you name this Basics of Islam 101 or introduction to Islam for reverts/everyone?

  • @jantheslovakmuslim

    @jantheslovakmuslim

    3 ай бұрын

    Not really since it creates big fitna 😢 I will continue studying on my own however

  • @saracentiano

    @saracentiano

    3 ай бұрын

    Oh well. May Allah subhana ta'ala put barakah in whatever you are doing. 😊

  • @_zaaphiel
    @_zaaphiel3 ай бұрын

    Subhanallah

  • @SalaamaMohamed
    @SalaamaMohamed4 ай бұрын

    Wslm Alghamdulilah Good

  • @eerievon2208
    @eerievon220820 күн бұрын

    may Allah s.w.t make things easier for ur effort akhi.. aammiiiiiinn… btw the place i reside also consists of mixed race n background… may Allah unite us muslims all over the world… aammiiiiiinn..

  • @avdobiogradlija8109
    @avdobiogradlija810926 күн бұрын

    Jazak allah to both of you. May allah preserve you both. Brother jan. I come from a bosnian muslim background. I think you may need to create a connection with muslims in bosnia. There are many similarities in the bosnian and Slovak language and culture. The bosnians generally follow the hanafi medhab. Selam.

  • @abdullahkhan-qk3lk
    @abdullahkhan-qk3lk3 ай бұрын

    Jazakallahu Khair. Very informative video

  • @MohdShahAbdullah
    @MohdShahAbdullah3 ай бұрын

    Happy to know that you follow a madhab. It makes life simpler as a Muslim. All madhab follow the same aqidah: Asyairah Matrudiah.

  • @naimahmad7314

    @naimahmad7314

    3 ай бұрын

    Moga diberi kefahaman

  • @youssefamr8073

    @youssefamr8073

    19 күн бұрын

    That’s false . That’s extremely false . The 4 madahabs founders were all Atharis . What the hell are you saying 😂. They even made takfir on people who has similar beliefs 😂

  • @MohdShahAbdullah

    @MohdShahAbdullah

    18 күн бұрын

    @@youssefamr8073 The Wahhabi shares your view

  • @youssefamr8073

    @youssefamr8073

    17 күн бұрын

    @@MohdShahAbdullah there is no such things as Whabi. I can tell you grave worshipers share your opinion . Go look and see what each madhab said about Allah being above the throne . They all all affirmed this . Not only said they said there was ijmaa on it.

  • @MohdShahAbdullah

    @MohdShahAbdullah

    17 күн бұрын

    @@youssefamr8073 I know who is a Wahhabi just from reading their comments.

  • @shaikhtayeebnaymath3156
    @shaikhtayeebnaymath31563 ай бұрын

    Mashallah Jan May Allah keep you steadfast in faith. 1 thing don't go deep into aqeedah and stuff..always keep in mind that your aqeedah is the aqeedah of ahlus sunnat wal jamaah (whatever that aqeedah is out there) and then pick a maddhab

  • @NavM23
    @NavM2316 күн бұрын

    ❤❤❤

  • @Abo_Abdullah87
    @Abo_Abdullah873 ай бұрын

    I’m Saudi so I was raised as Salafi but in my 20’s I started to question my beliefs so I decided to not be attached to any Salafis ideas because it doesn’t encourage to ask logic questions about aqeedah and religion in general until I learned after 10 or more years that Islam is based on Quran and Sunnah and the best school that treated with by authentication and explanation them is the Athari school so I came back to become Salafi again not by inheritance only but by searching and learning

  • @jantheslovakmuslim

    @jantheslovakmuslim

    3 ай бұрын

    Did you study Ashari as well?

  • @muslim5067

    @muslim5067

    3 ай бұрын

    As salaamu alaykum brother Jan. Today's Asharis have a lot of Sufi innovations. They believe prophet Muhammad SAW can be present but we cannot see him. It is not very different from the mainstream Sufies that says prophet Muhammad SAW is indeed omnipresent. This is how they hang on to Sufi beliefs. I understand that Imam Ashari repented and adopted the Hanbali creed before he died.

  • @DhikrDose

    @DhikrDose

    3 ай бұрын

    Bro Jan keep exploring, Islam encourages rational thinking don't blind follow anyone

  • @azaniastateofmind

    @azaniastateofmind

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@muslim5067He did not repent that is a common lie that is spread by some Salafis. Ibn Taymiyyah himself was also a sufi but I agree that some Sufis can have extreme beliefs that go against the Sharia

  • @carimaelfarrah7800

    @carimaelfarrah7800

    2 ай бұрын

    The Shiekh summed it up brilliantly, Ashari/Maturidi arose out of a need to explain important concepts.

  • @Escaping2030
    @Escaping203023 күн бұрын

    Hanbalis are often mis-labeled as hard liners, staunch literalists and traditionalists, because from among them are a few Wahabis and self proclaimed Salafis (who should not be confused with the first 3 generations of pious Muslim ancestors), especially considering that "the Salafi's" scholar of reference doesn't go back any further than Ibn Taymiyah. And Imam Hambal himself never attempted to give an interpretation for any of the descriptions and attributes of Allah (correct me if im wrong). Imam Malik, Imam Hanafi and Imam Shafi'ite were also of this opinion concerning the verses of Allah's attributes, because Allah cannot be encompassed, as is stated in the Quran. All of them were scholars who accepeted the verses as literal but refused to explain through rational means like metaphor as to what those attributes looked like, whether they contained depth and took up space, whether a body was in a direction and philosophical arguments such as these. Imam Hanbal never claimed these arguments and in fact fought against them. The other 3 madhabs in various degrees differed with Imam Hanifa's use of rational deduction (in fact Imam Hanifa's tools of human intellect were not widely popular at first) but today that madhab is considered the majority madhab subhanallah. Malikis were once upon a time a widely popular madhab and it enjoyed a little more acceptance and less scrutiny because it was seen as the school of thought of Medina. It is interesting when one does an indepth cursory study of how Islamic scholarship can take on many forms, depending on what the debate of the time is, for example, one can be Hambali and Ashari now, but at one time it would have been preferrable to be Hambali and Athari in creed because the rationalist Mu'tazilite philosophers were essentually the state-run enforcers of religious thought in Baghdad and they were brutal dictators. Rationalists by today's standards are Hanafis with a Tassawuf leaning and today its the Saudi state funded Hanbali-Salafis who are seen as too strict and not balanced in their approach. Imam Malik was himself seen as a traditionalist, so much so that he confined himself to the practices of the Sunna in Medina, a very traditionalist Athari in creed. Your favorite imam of whatever madhab all testify that Imam Malik's chain of narrations and teachers were the best (and in Imam Malik's time there were plenty of dialectic theologians then as well, and he studied under them for more than a decade, but despite that he did not accept the aqeeda of people like Ibn Humuz). But despite Imam Malik being against anthropomorphic beliefs of any kind, he did believe that Allah would be seen one day, as is described in Surah 75 Verses 22 and 23 and that Allah will only be veiled to the transgressors (Surah 83 verse 15).

  • @SalaamaMohamed
    @SalaamaMohamed4 ай бұрын

    SUBGANALAH YAAALLAH XCEPT AMEEN YAAALLAH ALGHAMDULILAH

  • @mizzylamydean2936
    @mizzylamydean29363 ай бұрын

    It just a gift.(clothing) Not asking to change your culture. If changing name, it just if the old name having bad meaning. To be imam is to be a leader and to be imam at least you have ilmu-knowledge. New masjid normally learn from other masjid do and improvise some according to the culture.

  • @hid4768
    @hid47683 ай бұрын

    Narrated 'Abdullah bin Mas'ud:that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: "The best generation is my generation, then those who follow them, then those who follow them. Then comes a people after that whose swearing precedes their testimony, or whose testimony precedes their swearing Hadith Sahih the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) “Every Innovation is misguidance and every misguidance is in the (Hell)Fire.” [Saheeh Muslim,

  • @mukhamadsuhermanto2764
    @mukhamadsuhermanto27644 ай бұрын

    13:16 the ulama of ahlussunnah wal jamaah in the world do this (combining Ashari-Maturidi into one). This is easier for laymen who want to learn from scratch. If the want to go deeper, they'll know the difference once they are ready (at the certain level). That decrease the ignorants to speak what they don't know. That's the contrary in the salafi-wahabi movement.

  • @khairt1731

    @khairt1731

    4 ай бұрын

    Exactly. Much is common, the differences are a few. Those few are for the high level students.

  • @mukhamadsuhermanto2764

    @mukhamadsuhermanto2764

    Күн бұрын

    @@user-gc6wd7dm4w wahhabist with zero knowledge speaks loudest voice with anonymous account. Clearly coward

  • @fazlulkader3680
    @fazlulkader36804 ай бұрын

    30:20 is beneficial for me.

  • @briancordero7674
    @briancordero7674Ай бұрын

    The question at 47:20 is the Salafi position confirmed reluctantly without being extreme in Kalam doctrines.

  • @khairt1731
    @khairt17314 ай бұрын

    Alhamdulilah for Dr Shadee. We need knowledgeable shaykhs especially in these times. For those wanting to criticize him: Youre not scholarly qualified to do so. Youre not educated. When the Shaykh speaks, you listen.

  • @SIGSEGV1337

    @SIGSEGV1337

    4 ай бұрын

    If you are not knowledgable, how are you able to know that he is knowledgable? Do you think a beard and glasses makes a person knowledgable?

  • @khairt1731

    @khairt1731

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@SIGSEGV1337The "DOCTOR" title should tell you everything you need to know, but for some reason your brain aint computing. This is exactly what the wahabis/salafis do, they see a man with a beard and a thobe and think hes a Shaykh without ever questioning his credentials. Every major salafi I see online has no Islamic degree or Ijiziyah.

  • @khairt1731

    @khairt1731

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@SIGSEGV1337YT keeps deleting my comments. Look at his title, it says "Doctor". He has a Phd in Islamic studies and ijizya from multiple shaykhs from the Middle East. You wahabis never ask your preachers what qualifications they have, as long as they have a beard and wear a thobe in your mind hes a shaykh. This is wrong.

  • @SIGSEGV1337

    @SIGSEGV1337

    3 ай бұрын

    @@khairt1731 Ah well of course if he has a particular label bestowed upon him by the filthy status quo then he MUST BE trustworthy /s. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a salafi. We do not need garbage credentialism because our scholars tell us about the Qur'an and sunnah and we disagree with them freely.

  • @khairt1731

    @khairt1731

    3 ай бұрын

    @@SIGSEGV1337 whos "we"? And why are you as a layman disagreeing with SCHOLARS? This is ignorance at the highest level. Youre not scholarly qualified to speak. The only thing you can do is ask Questions to scholars. You barely graduated high school.

  • @An86115
    @An861153 ай бұрын

    فَجَعَلۡنَٰهُمۡ سَلَفٗا وَمَثَلٗا لِّلۡأٓخِرِينَ

  • @waqaswani2994
    @waqaswani29944 ай бұрын

    Masha ALLAH Jan you should bring the Muslim Lantern to talk about the Athari view

  • @user-bn2nv5mx2g

    @user-bn2nv5mx2g

    3 ай бұрын

    Definitely

  • @saracentiano

    @saracentiano

    3 ай бұрын

    He is not an aqidah scholar. Better to bring someone who has done phDs in Ibn Taymmiyah and Aqidah. Like e.g. Shaikh Yasir Qadhi. Pure Hanabalite who is also anti-Wahhabi.

  • @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

    @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

    3 ай бұрын

    @@saracentiano - Yasir Qadhi who was a guy who doubted the preservation of Quran yet he was sopposedly a hafeth. This guy who didn't know du'a to the qubur is shirk, Subahan Allah. Quran 4 :82 if it was from other than Allah is would contradict! Learn Usul after Aqida & Manhaj!

  • @sameinbari8092

    @sameinbari8092

    Ай бұрын

    That guy is a heretic ​@@saracentiano

  • @An86115
    @An861153 ай бұрын

    As Salam Aleikum wa Rahmatullah wa Barakathu Hayyakumallah I wanna recommend you brother a channel to learn your Deen properly Garden of ilm .

  • @RayOfHope8
    @RayOfHope84 ай бұрын

    ❤️❤️❤️❤️🌹🌹🌹🌹

  • @briancordero7674
    @briancordero7674Ай бұрын

    The Sahaba and Tabi'een gave the meaning of yad as the term hand in some ayat and the idioms of interpretation in others in Tafsir accordingly. This is Athar, not Kalam.

  • @An86115
    @An861153 ай бұрын

    Sura Zukhruf verse 56

  • @studentofsacredknowledge.9359
    @studentofsacredknowledge.93593 ай бұрын

    This is a type of Jihad. Constantly learning the religion and helping others. 😇💫💥💯😇

  • @moosa9850
    @moosa98502 ай бұрын

    There was never ashari maturidi or any other aqeedah except one in the time of the messenger ﷺ, we are ordered to follow the quraan and the authentic Sunnah with the understanding of the Companions. May ALLAH rectify our affairs and keep us firm upon the truth. O you who believe! Obey ALLAH and obey the Messenger (Muhammad ﷺ), and those of you (Muslims) who are in authority. (And) if you differ in anything amongst yourselves, refer it to ALLAH and HIS Messenger ﷺ, if you believe in ALLAH and in the Last Day. That is better and more suitable for final determination. Quran 4:49

  • @asifzameer9874
    @asifzameer98742 ай бұрын

    Beware if you're in Australia in Australia they have lots off Qadyani...! Again , ask them about last prophet Muhammad [ PBUH ]

  • @cogthusiast1150
    @cogthusiast11503 ай бұрын

    Just follow the history. Things like Salafism are quite modern.

  • @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

    @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

    3 ай бұрын

    salafism revival might be modern but that doesn't make it modern, just a revival... duh!

  • @cogthusiast1150

    @cogthusiast1150

    3 ай бұрын

    @@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543everything about it is modern, so a bit of historical reading.

  • @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

    @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

    3 ай бұрын

    Tawhid/ Sunni creed is balance. Affirm Allah's Attributes as perfect (Quran 16 :60) to negate atheism. Negate Likeness (Quran 42 :11) Also negates polytheism. Quran 16 :60 ties Allah's Siffat with Akira when Allah is seen which Jahmiyah deny! View time Line, - Qadriya denied Allah has knowledge of future saying how can Allah allow evil, but story of Kidr shows things appear eviI at first as Allah is All Wise. Qadriya are called Majews of umma who believe in god of light & darkness who guides all eviI acts. - Mutaziliah say Allah's Siffat are parts like the pagans in Quran 53 :19 tafsir which says Allah's name al Aziz was turned into the idol Uzza. - Kulab Asharis confirm the Qadr but follow Qadriya & Mutazilah using foreign idea of Aristotle to say Allah's Siffat Qabr specifically are parts & isolating Allah's Attributes! If we use foreign ideas of limited knowledge it wil only lead to division (Quran 4 :82) which is why when Ashari sofia bida increased in Uthmani empire it lead to secularism!

  • @izharcohen4572

    @izharcohen4572

    2 ай бұрын

    Salafism is part of modernism, while ashari and people who follow mazhab and sufis traditionalist

  • @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

    @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

    2 ай бұрын

    @@izharcohen4572 Yet prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him said I am the best salaf in Bukhari kitab of asking, I guess he is modern to you, which is clearly faIse btw. Where is proof for such a claim?

  • @fazlulkader3680
    @fazlulkader36804 ай бұрын

    35:00

  • @hiraabnews4578
    @hiraabnews45782 ай бұрын

    Correction: so don't get confused if Quran says ALLAH is closer to you than jugular vein at the same time lLIVES above HIS throne. Sorry for no editing before posting.

  • @carimaelfarrah7800

    @carimaelfarrah7800

    2 ай бұрын

    Where does Allah say He lives above His throne? I think you have misquoted the Qur'an.

  • @hiraabnews4578

    @hiraabnews4578

    2 ай бұрын

    @@carimaelfarrah7800 I think I misquoted. You might be right. "thumma istawa" doesn't mean "HE lives" but "thumma istawa alal Arshi" or "fawqal Arshi" both doesn't mean 'lives' but more close to ' while being on 'HIS Arsh' OR ON ' TOP OF HIS ARSH'. IN ANYWAY HE IS ALAKBAE, AL QADIR, ALSAMAD, ALAWAL WAL AKHIR. HE IS HAYULQAYUM, THERE IS NOTHING LIKE HIM, HE IS BEYOND WHAT WE CAN REACH WITH OUR PERCEPTION OR INTELLECT. HE KNOWS EVERYTHING AT ANYTIME, EVERYWHERE IN THE UNIVERSE, HE KNOWS THE FUTURE, PRESENT AND THE PAST. HE ENCOMPASSES EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING. NOTHING IS INDEPENDENT FROM HIM AND HE IS SOVEREIGN, EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING NEED HIN BUT HE NEEDS NO ONE AND NOTHING. NOTHING OF YOU IS INDEPENDENT OF HIM, EVEN THE SINGLE VREATH AND BEATS OF YOUR HEART, YOUR HEARING AND SIGHT. EVERYONE IS HIS AND EVERYTHING IS HIS AND EVERYWHERE IS HIS. YOU CANNOT GO OUT OF HIS REALM, YOU CAN'T JUMP FROM HIS DOMINION TO ANOTHER DOMINION. WHY PEOPLE ARGUE ABOUT SUCH THINGS IS BEYOND ME. ALL ESSENCE IS WITH HIM, ALL FUNCTIONS ARE FROM HIM. WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN A LITTLE ONLY.

  • @carimaelfarrah7800

    @carimaelfarrah7800

    2 ай бұрын

    @@hiraabnews4578 thank you for correcting and clarifying. An important point of aqeeda to understand as expressed by Imam Tahawi is, " The Arsh and the kursi are both real. Yet Allah has no need of the arsh and whatever is beneath it." AND, "He is transcendent beyond limits, ends, supports, components, or instruments. The six directions do not contain Him as they do created things."

  • @hiraabnews4578

    @hiraabnews4578

    2 ай бұрын

    @@carimaelfarrah7800 subxanaALLAH. Great take-on brother

  • @hiraabnews4578

    @hiraabnews4578

    2 ай бұрын

    @@carimaelfarrah7800 I seems to me that all aqida are correct and there are no fundamental differences but artificial due to limited human intellect and due diligence.

  • @salaamalaikumX
    @salaamalaikumXАй бұрын

    People complicate everything. Islam is supposed to be simple and easy to follow but honestly its been made overly complicated.

  • @jantheslovakmuslim

    @jantheslovakmuslim

    Ай бұрын

    depends on your intelligence.

  • @thedaylamite
    @thedaylamiteАй бұрын

    Maturidis also saying that yad is a attribute and saying it is power is absurd

  • @thedaylamite

    @thedaylamite

    Ай бұрын

    Btw I was Maturidi before.

  • @Mj-in5uj

    @Mj-in5uj

    2 күн бұрын

    No, it's not. It simply means that you never grabbed a book on the Maturidi Creed. Yad is an attribute whose meaning is only known to Allah, as yad has more than 1 meaning, Allah told us to relegate the meanings of ambigious parts of the Qur'an (3:7) and we can't say the meaning is a literal hand as it doesn't befit Allah's Majesty. Some scholars did ta'wil of it and said it meant power to negate tashbih.

  • @fizascensionyze
    @fizascensionyze3 ай бұрын

    salam Jan, who lied about Imam Abu Hanifa? give hints if you can't say.

  • @jantheslovakmuslim

    @jantheslovakmuslim

    3 ай бұрын

    I don't want to cause fitnah bro.....

  • @fizascensionyze

    @fizascensionyze

    3 ай бұрын

    understand. apologies.

  • @MukemalMohammed-mb1dm
    @MukemalMohammed-mb1dm2 ай бұрын

    As Wr Wb sorry but you gave the Asharis creed and you have to give also the Atharis concept on this isuues bc we have to be fair they also have a reason for their saying .."we have to believe on those verse in the qur'an like the salaf understand and believed "wout asking the howeness of Allah's attribute and without likeness bc Allah has no likeness"like Allah has hands but wout the likeness to the creation this is the creed of the salaf"

  • @Escaping2030
    @Escaping203023 күн бұрын

    @5:21 What is the required mandatory minimum requirement to form a jamaat for jummah? Can't a Maliki pray in a majority Hanafi group? 3 people including the imam is what makes a jamaat, because in arabic plural three or more is in thr qur’an “ (62:9) O’ Believers, when the call for Prayer is made on Friday, hasten to the remembrance of Allah and give up all trading. That is better for you, if you only knew.” the word AAMANU is in a plural form of 3 or more, and God knows best

  • @jantheslovakmuslim

    @jantheslovakmuslim

    23 күн бұрын

    3 is for Hanafi. Maliki has different rules much more complicated.

  • @Mr-sn2qw
    @Mr-sn2qw4 ай бұрын

    43:27

  • @GossipRealm

    @GossipRealm

    3 ай бұрын

    Ha

  • @saraahroww
    @saraahroww10 күн бұрын

    great discussion. Dr. Shadee Elmasry is one my go to scholar.

  • @manzoorahmad-xc7dd
    @manzoorahmad-xc7dd3 ай бұрын

    السلام علیکم جان صاحب اللہ تعالٰی آپ کو کامیاب بنانے آپ اچھا کام کر رہے ہیں وہ مرد نہیں جو گھبرا جائے حالات کے خونی منظر سے جس دور میں جینا مشکل ہو اس دور میں جینا لازم ہے آپ شہر یا دیہات میں رہتے ہیں گوگل سے دیکھ لیں گے ضرور بتائیں

  • @A.--.
    @A.--.3 ай бұрын

    Hanabila saying to abstain is PERFECT

  • @jantheslovakmuslim

    @jantheslovakmuslim

    3 ай бұрын

    I think so

  • @annunakibogus8708

    @annunakibogus8708

    3 ай бұрын

    From what I learn that how salaf do

  • @mikhan5191

    @mikhan5191

    2 ай бұрын

    But when the Enemy or an honest enquirer poses questions, then an answer is required which satisfies the intellect and convinces them. Telling them NOT to question is not the right way.

  • @alib7489
    @alib74893 ай бұрын

    Aqeeda is a Salafi obsession. It's so simple

  • @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

    @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

    3 ай бұрын

    Aqida is 6 pillars of iman from hadith Jibril, it's basic Islam, how can one be obssessed with it?

  • @Khairuddin313

    @Khairuddin313

    3 ай бұрын

    @@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543bro that hand ( Yadh) question is not relevant to this worldly life, we believe in Allah, let’s not discuss this issue, bro

  • @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

    @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Khairuddin313 Asalam Aleik bro. Thanks, H/e it effects Iife & more importantly Akira (Quran 16.60). If ppl can make & reject ayat we will split & need unity so it's haram in Quran 3.103. Like Qadriya who deny Allah Knows the future saying how can Allah allow eviI, but like in story of Musa & Kidr we see things look eviI but Allah is all Wise too. Attributes define each other.

  • @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

    @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Khairuddin313 Salaf were Athari. A. Quran 16.60 - Affirm Allah's Attributes as Perfect & true rejects atheism & ties to akira. B. Quran 42.11 - Negate likeness to reject Polytheism - Tauhid balance. C. Quran 7.33 - Leave what Allah has, don't affirm or negate. Tawil w/ Quran, sunna only. Some Ashari see Allah's Attributes like Allah's Face as Tashbi & deny seeing Allah which is in Quran 75.22. This matches eviI in Quran 16.60 in denying akira. How can any of Allah's Attributes be tashbi when Allah is as al A.wwal or the 1st This is important as this shows respect to Quran & sunna to follow it, & shows we can't contradict it & we all error but when we error fix it or we will divide.

  • @Khairuddin313

    @Khairuddin313

    2 ай бұрын

    @@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543I take the stance of the hanbali Scholars on this Issue, We do not discuss this , because it is not relevant.

  • @thenabilamrani
    @thenabilamrani3 ай бұрын

    This mosque owner said it himself: if these schools were incorrect people would have gone astray But people DID go astray that’s not even a debate Islam is simple in its essence but of course politicians will do their politics

  • @taklusyndrome
    @taklusyndrome3 ай бұрын

    seems like apple vision pro avatar on right

  • @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543
    @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo65433 ай бұрын

    Shadee says Allah names you Muslim they are innocent until otherwise. OK that is good, but one can't be entrusted until inspected no, that is why if a man wants to do nika, the wali inspects not just that he is Muslim but other things. So a person may want to know your aqida & fiq for companionship. Asking one's Aqida has even been used to verify one's Islam so it is an important basic point. In Quran some Muslims are highlighted by their unique virtues like Muhajirin meaning those who did hijra or migration and Ansar or helper. He seems confused, Mujtahid is for fiqh (physical worship) not Aqida (belief). There is no Taqlid in Aqida - Quran 47 :19. Source of Aqida is Quran, Sunna & Ijma (Quran 4 :115). Mujtahid is a person trained in ijtihad or striving which involves Qiyas or analogy as new tech comes so it can affect fiq but not Aqida. This person has to know alot of hadith in order to do an analogy with all the correct information. Aqida is 6 pillars of Iman, as in building the rest of the din, ppl ask what is one's aqida to make sure they follow the din properly Deviants sects like she'uh may reject the Quran which is a pillar of Iman, **Qadriya use foreign ideas to isolate & deny Allah's Siffat, Kulab Asharis use kalam, a foreign man made idea to reinterpret Allah's Siffat which is among the biggest proofs of Tawhid and reject hadith to maintain that, cutting and pasting Islam and dividing the ummah - Quran 4 :82 says what is from other than Allah will contradict.** The default Aqida is Athari, Athar means narrations, let Islam define itself. Quran 5 :3, Islam is a complete religion opposed to deviants sects above. Quran 16 :60 - Allah's has the best description and those who deny the Akira are eviI. Quran 42 :11 - There is nothing like Allah, He is All Hearer , All Seer. - So we Affirm Allah's Attributes to negate atheism and negate likeness to negate polytheism, Tauhid middle path. Allah's Attributes is tied to the after life, in Quran 75.22 we see Allah in the afterlife, but deviants sects like Jahmiya who also follow Qadriya is not respecting Allah's Attributes deny seeing Allah in the Akira. Shadi says Mathhab is like med school, you can't take 50/50 you have to go with local one. says study usul first. says you can learn aqida from Gazali, says few Hanbalis were Asharis w/o kalam like ibn Jawzi on tanzi. He says certain knowledge doesn't need fiq (Yea Aqida included) 10 :00 - says its similar to choosing mechanics, spouse etc. Jan says I didn't know how to choose Aqida and mathhab, I want to start a masjid. When should a person start this as I was busy with my chiId and family. He did umrah. shadi says mathhab is like human policy book, it gives direction. Says it's a decision., says rakats is tarawih - but that's not a mathhab issue. all 4 say it's open but sunnah is 8, so is it for Abu Bakr. Even in a mathhab they disagree too. Jan says an athari and xtn debated and ashari pushback was bad. says a scholar lied on abu Hanifa. asks to define Kulab and athari as 99% of reverts are salafi. asks what is differences. 20 :00 - Shadi says one group of Hanbalis refused to answer questions as the salaf didn't ask it, like role of logic in religion & apparent contradictions, philosophy. Like asking Allah is Above the Throne, Allah is with us, Allah comes down last 1/3 of night. Says Hatim Hajj and Yusef says. (This has an Answer, Allah Himself is Over the Throne, He is with us with His Attributes like Knowledge in Quran 7 :7, Hearing & Seeing in Quran 20 :46 & Allah is not limited to time and space) HE says Atharis didn't want to answer but Kulabis want to. Says Kulabis say universal intellect and Quran can't contradict, fitri or muqalif logic. says Revelation that may contradict the two should be figurative to take apparent meaning when it opposes logic says it's bad. Jan asks about ebn Hanbal saying Allah exists w/o a place. Shadi says Ebn Taymiyya says in his fatawa that Hanbalis were not correct to not defend their positions. Says He has more specific conclusions then Hanbalis. Jan says Allah has a Hand, is this Hanbali or ebn Taymiyyah... Shadi says this is ebn Taymiyyah, Hanbalis say just recite the verse and that's it, don't extract. (That's not an extraction that is an affirmation, to deny the apparent w/o another Quran verse is negation, the apparent wording is default, view Quran 6.82 Tafsir Bukhari on the word thulm) Jan says Md Safarini and asks about body etc. Shadi says i have Hanbalis that use Tanzi views, negate attributes that Allah is bound by time & space like creation. Says when shared wording of an attribute, difference is absoluteness & neediness. Says we negate literal (default) meaning if it implies time & space. (ok who says Allah's Attributes like Face & Hands need time & space - can you name a living thing that doesn't take up time & space, will we now negate literal meaning that Allah has Life? - if no we see the double standard of Tawil Asharis) 30 :00 - Shadi says its not about emotions, but evidence and precedence. says if 70% say one things they are right, if 50% say it, it's not important (Hadith says follow first 3 generations, doesn't that suggest an even took place to take a portion away from the truth? -the time lne coincides with the mihnah) shadi says new books answer new questions, (but don't forget it's always based on old evidence) says Philosophers bring new questions. Jan brings up Qom Loot, Shadi says in old fiq books there were ppl born w/ 2. Shadi says in 2ndary issues, scholar can get one or 2 rewards, if right he gets 2 reward as later ppl will get it know, it's lowazim or domino affect. Jan says Atharis say Yad if Asharis say its tasbih they are projecting their own tasbih. Shadi says will this determine the afterlife and grave? Why fight on it though? says we need to understand Arabic as Quran is based in Arabic. 40 :00- says if Yad has 5 meanings why do I have to use this says Yad can mean favor, strength, or fingers to wrist or elbow or shoulder. Says Ahad is One Himself, if a definition implies limb Says Allah has Knowledge, w/o brain or tooI, Sees w/o TooIs, Hears w/o ears. Says Allah is not asked, and Allah has right to test us. Quran 3 :7 about Mutashabihat ayat.- says it's Attributes. Says Hatim says Quran is Anthropocentric - spoken in a way we understand, it's general not specific meaning. says Tanzi, says Tafwid, says tawil can mean power or favor. regarding Allah's Hand over the Jammat, says this i to prevent wrong meaning. says tafsir by words before Arabic & don't contradict another ayat or mutawatir, says we can also negate meaning only. Jan says what if I say Allah has Yad that befits His Majesty, Shadi says its not blameworthy as there is no tasbih but there are ebtter answers. Jan says in slovak many Arabic words like IsItiwa are theres. 50 :00 - Shadi says to say we will allow all mathhabs classes but will run masjid by one. Jan says Islam has bad marketing and help but is the best product. Alot miss basic edcation. A revert did nikah and sister left. He brings up fiqh Akbar but that is daif. Says we need a small pamphlet as many ppl believe Creator. shadi says being consistent through these trials will make them strong, connections will make difference in learning over books and videos. Jan says we are a slovakian masjid , as there is an Arabic masjid under a masjid. Shadi says I support ethnic masjids, not saying none is welcome, all is welcome, like we choose a mathhab we will choose a language and food to help ppl understand. Jan says we have ppl from Gaza, AFrica, Algeria etc. and as a revert I am leading ppl. Shadi says don't give extra hurdles, make it smooth. some ppl get in business right away. 1 :00 :00 - shadi says if 100k ulea said it its not going to be wrong - wrong there is hadith 72 sects are in nar and one is in jannah who follows sahabas... Jan says learn arabic and don't learn alone etc. Shadi says twitter is fitnah. Jan says there is salafi, Madkhali , says we are a small group adn there has to be organizeed way to study. Shadi say truth will survive ( depends based on hadith) correct works, I agree but wrong usual can not gradually, bad cuts off and other ideas may fade a few generation. truth grows. Jan says meet in person, in comments they make takfr., there should be better way to dispute. Jan says refutations was too much for him so he turned it off.

  • @Jouy195
    @Jouy1953 ай бұрын

    I am masry too hahaha

  • @Sa7biUK

    @Sa7biUK

    3 ай бұрын

    Ta7ia al Masr basha

  • @Jouy195

    @Jouy195

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Sa7biUK hahah thank you Where are you from

  • @Sa7biUK

    @Sa7biUK

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Jouy195 Pakistan 7abibi. Send me Molokhia akhi

  • @Jouy195

    @Jouy195

    Күн бұрын

    @@user-gc6wd7dm4w ممكن الله اعلم محدش عنده دليل

  • @asifzameer9874
    @asifzameer98742 ай бұрын

    Beware Off Qadyani , Always ask Qadyani WHAT do they say of last prophet Muhammad [ PBUH ]

  • @YusufDeif
    @YusufDeif3 ай бұрын

    Jazak Allah Khairan! I if you can invite THE MUSLIM LANTERN to SPEAK from the ATHARI view so you and the AUDIENCE can DECIDE after THE 2 PODCASTS.

  • @jantheslovakmuslim

    @jantheslovakmuslim

    3 ай бұрын

    lol after 2 podcasts? You need years to study both concepts of Aqeeda and not 2 podcasts :) Muslim Lantern is a dawah influencer not a scholar as far as I know right?

  • @YusufDeif

    @YusufDeif

    3 ай бұрын

    He at least seems to me a student of knowledge and I believe if you invited him and he didn't reach that level of knowledge yet he will be humble and say that he isn't qualified for that InShaa'Allah.

  • @abdulrahmanadus341

    @abdulrahmanadus341

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@jantheslovakmuslim Brother, why not be open minded? Why just think one side is correct. What makes you think TheMuslimLantern does not have any Islamic qualifications? He doesn't tell anyone about his personal life, so it is just a baseless assumption. TheMuslimLantern is a prominent and well-respected Da'ee and an intellectual that has immense knowledge in islamic sciences and not only dawah. Do not think just because someone is called a doctor they have more knowledge than others. Also, there are shaykhs/scholars from the other side like Shaykh Uthman Ibn Farooq and the likes. I advise you to rethink your choice and look at both sides instead of grasping to one without investigating the other!

  • @jantheslovakmuslim

    @jantheslovakmuslim

    3 ай бұрын

    @@abdulrahmanadus341 I made many podcasts with Salafis before ;)

  • @immortalpickle3104

    @immortalpickle3104

    3 ай бұрын

    He had a video where some Ashari Albanian was talking smack or smth 😭😭 ofc this doesn’t represent Asharis- but it was a video where he clarified Aqidah; but in general he is very knowledgeable

  • @schuste6
    @schuste63 ай бұрын

    is shadee an athari or ashari?

  • @saqibimran9342

    @saqibimran9342

    2 ай бұрын

    He's Ashari Alhamdulilah

  • @schuste6

    @schuste6

    2 ай бұрын

    @@saqibimran9342 alhamdulilah for misguidance?

  • @izharcohen4572

    @izharcohen4572

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@schuste6ashari is majority creed of muslim in the world, so all muslim misguided?

  • @schuste6

    @schuste6

    2 ай бұрын

    @izharcohen4572 no it isnt. and it doesnt matter, majority of the world are disbelievers, are all of them also misguided? terrible argument. u know and i know that ashari creed aka sufism is falsehood and contains bidah

  • @saqibimran9342

    @saqibimran9342

    2 ай бұрын

    @@schuste6Ashari Creed is free from innovation

  • @seethingswallow5710
    @seethingswallow57109 күн бұрын

    21:32 so they simply made things up based on zero teachings from Allah or the prophet even.

  • @Mj-in5uj

    @Mj-in5uj

    2 күн бұрын

    Wrong conclusion. We derive our answers and reasonings from the Qur'an and the Sunnah.

  • @azddine77
    @azddine773 ай бұрын

    He is Laing to you hanbalis they are forming the sifat of allah all salafis make tanziih of allah and if you read the books of tge salaf before ibn taymiyay you will know that he follows the books of the slaf in the first century and socend centutry ,the ash'ary he makes repentance and wrote 3 books

  • @wiseg.s5872
    @wiseg.s587218 күн бұрын

    Why don’t you have a person knowledgeable in the Athari creed come on and discuss with him the Athari creed in detail

  • @markov.2467
    @markov.24673 ай бұрын

    Salafis are divisive but not all atharis are salafis. I'm not a salafi but I'm athari.

  • @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

    @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

    3 ай бұрын

    fact that this got a heart shows the heart of who gave it.

  • @navinstrument8353

    @navinstrument8353

    2 ай бұрын

    Wherever you go in the muslim world, it's almost always salafi/wahabi vs the rest of the ummah.

  • @AsadKhan-uo5yp
    @AsadKhan-uo5yp4 ай бұрын

    Abu Dhar said, “I was with the Prophet (Sallal lahu aliwasalam) one day and I heard him saying: “There is something I fear for my Ummah more than the Dajjal.” It was then that I became afraid, so I said: “Oh Rasool Allah! Which thing is that?” He (SAW) said; “Misguided and astray scholars.” (Reference:-Recorded in Musnad Imam Ahmad (no.20335, 21334 and no.21335). Sheikh Shu’ayb al Arna’ut graded it sahih li ghayri (authentic due to corroborating narrations) in his tahqiq of the Musnad (1999 ed., 35:21,296-97) Ziyad ibn Hudayr رضي الله عنه reported:- Umar ibn al-Khattab رضي الله عنه said to me, “Do you know what will demolish Islam?” I said, “No.” Umar رضي الله عنه said, “Islam will be demolished by the faults of scholars, the arguments of hypocrites over the Book, and the judgment of misguided leaders.” [Sunan Al-Darimi, 220] ۩ Umar ibn al-Khattab رضي الله عنه reported:- The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said, “Verily, among what I fear most for my nation is every hypocrite with a knowledgeable tongue.” In another narration, Umar رضي الله عنه said, “His tongue is knowledgeable, but his heart and deeds are ignorant.” [Musnad Ahmad] ۩ Thawban narrated that the Messenger of Allah ﷺ said:- “I only fear for my Ummah from the misguiding A’immah.”

  • @jj-yi1ne

    @jj-yi1ne

    4 ай бұрын

    very ambiguous language bud and you could say this hadith is a lie

  • @khairt1731

    @khairt1731

    4 ай бұрын

    Yes the misguided wahabis and their slanderous tounges. May Allah protect us from these hypocrites and bigots. Notice how none of the salafi scholars dare not say a word against Saudi promoting music, intermixing of genders and Alcohol.

  • @AsadKhan-uo5yp

    @AsadKhan-uo5yp

    4 ай бұрын

    @@jj-yi1ne There more than one hadith, and these hadith were declared Sahih by Shaykh Arnaut. Here is an example in the quran in Surah Araf which Allah describes a scholar as a panting dog And relate to them ˹O Prophet˺ the story of the one to whom We gave Our signs, but he abandoned them, so Satan took hold of him, and he became a deviant.1 If We had willed, We would have elevated him with Our signs, but he clung to this life-following his evil desires. His example is that of a dog: if you chase it away, it pants, and if you leave it, it ˹still˺ pants. This is the example of the people who deny Our signs.1 So narrate ˹to them˺ stories ˹of the past˺, so perhaps they will reflect. What an evil example of those who denied Our signs! They ˹only˺ wronged their own souls. So, indeed there are scholars who are indeed righteous but then their are scholars who follow their own desires and mislead others. The quran describes these type of scholars like a panting dog which is the worst type of dog. The traded the verses of Allah for a miserable gain how miserable which of that they have chosen. Just because they have been granted a lot of knowledge does not mean they cannot go astray, since shaytan also is knowledgable. Not to say there are indeed many scholars who in the past and present have been righteous but they are some who are astray and lead others astray. It has been said by some companions and tabieen that to beware of scholars who are close to the rulers for they most likely are afflicted by Fitnah.

  • @AsadKhan-uo5yp

    @AsadKhan-uo5yp

    3 ай бұрын

    @@jj-yi1ne seems like youtube deleted my reply lol

  • @AsadKhan-uo5yp

    @AsadKhan-uo5yp

    3 ай бұрын

    There are verses in the Quran which describes certain scholars that Allah would have elevated them but they clung to the earth and sold the verses of Allah for a small price. There are few sahabas and tabiens that say that the scholars who are close to the ruler have been exposed to fitnah, so it said to watch out for them. The more distant the scholar is from the ruler the more closer he is to Allah the more closer he is to the Ruler the further he is away from Allah

  • @A.--.
    @A.--.3 ай бұрын

    This is what "my heart feels comfortable with" is a very very divisive concept. You end up with as many Divisions as there are people using this concept. The better concept is to Follow The Evidence!

  • @saidctbb

    @saidctbb

    3 ай бұрын

    at the end of the day, you follow what your heart feels comfortable and the truth, you can not follow something that you are not comfortable with

  • @A.--.

    @A.--.

    3 ай бұрын

    @@saidctbb ....said the stubborn blind brainwashed Hindu, Christian, Athiest, Jew, Zoastrians etc ...let me be where i was born in a state of ignorance and let me not be enlightened by evidence LoL 🤣

  • @immortalpickle3104

    @immortalpickle3104

    3 ай бұрын

    No some people delve too much into Philosophy for example and overlay that into Islamic matters and find some concepts ‘uncomfortable.’ We have to be sincere to Allah and if we are uncomfortable we seek his help (with ibadat and specifically Istakhara) and seek the knowledgable scholars

  • @younusadiallo5094
    @younusadiallo50944 ай бұрын

    I would suggest you bring in someone like brother Jake or hateem al hajj to talk about the athari view regarding this

  • @cesarborgia9240

    @cesarborgia9240

    4 ай бұрын

    Exactly, to avoid the bias

  • @Al-Azdi

    @Al-Azdi

    4 ай бұрын

    Yeah, especially after getting embarrassed in the last debate, his tayimi anthropomorphic creed is not good for him or the ummah. The Sunni creed and fiqh lies with Asha’aris, Maturidis, Hanbali muffawids.

  • @jj-yi1ne

    @jj-yi1ne

    4 ай бұрын

    they are not athari

  • @jantheslovakmuslim

    @jantheslovakmuslim

    3 ай бұрын

    looking for scholars not youtubers to be honest. I will inshAllah

  • @muslimuddin3656

    @muslimuddin3656

    3 ай бұрын

    @@jantheslovakmuslim Brother I am surprised that you understand this difference More then 60% doesn't understand this difference

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