Minute 29 Gays and lesbians are not required to promote gender ideology just because men who claim to be women supported marriage equality. A lot of groups supported marriage equality. .

Minute 41 I am not sure. I have tried listening to compromises to let men compete in women's sports and I have heard not anything that I would consider reasonable.

Getting to know men who claimed to be women convinced me that they were men.

Minute 6 -- I am not aware of schools requiring schools to be notified if a child is gay. Evidence, sir?

I wish people who have same-sex attractions didn't have to be linked to gender ideology advocacy in every conversation about trans topics. The two causes are unrelated and sometimes at odds. Many gays and lesbians are opposed to TQ.

@nigelfrench8894

7 ай бұрын

Yes, I agree same sex attracted gay men & lesbians are now being drawn back into old debates we had already won, because of the constant alignment with unrelated QT+, which is about theory and seems to include heterosexual!

I was more open to accept that men who claimed to be women were women...until I started meeting them.

Minute 40 --she seems to be saying that neither side can neither side have a reasonable conversation about nuance. Or is she only blaming one side? Unclear.

Why did the anti-trans movement explode? Lia Thomas.

"SeX aNd geNdER aRE SePAraTe"... but also "I'm male but should be allowed into female-only spaces because of my 'gender identity'"...

Great conversation! Thank you for uploading this panel.

Minute 1:00 Chase being racist

Minute 45 -- I do agree that bathroom policies may have more room for compromise than other policies.

Telling boys they shouldn't compete in the girls' category is not demonization.

love how none of these comments relate to the video lol. Anyway! Amazing interview. I enjoyed it ☺️. Very informative, and a wonderful panel.

@chaserseven2886

7 ай бұрын

That Benjamin guy seems so obsessed with trans people he made multiple comments to Nostradamus of putting it all in one comment

Minute 36/7 -- totally agree about sport being a key issue

We got here because of pickle and taco surprises. No amount of intentional misunderstanding or playing dumb about this will make this fact go away.

@fropi5523

7 ай бұрын

What does that mean

@LordSlag

7 ай бұрын

@@fropi5523 Either you're staggeringly ignorant, or, you're a troll; but, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt: It means that trans people are lying about their sex to prospective partners about their sexual and reproductive capabilities in order to initiate sex and relationships with us. This is knowingly evil and deserves criminal action.

@jaws392

7 ай бұрын

@@fropi5523it means “gender” isn’t real. It’s a cult belief.

There is no internal feeling that is exclusive to men or women (or boys/girls), what makes anyone a man or a woman is being either male or female and reaching adulthood. Their sex and stage of physical maturity makes them men or women, not some "feeling" they have. Believing there is some "essence" specific to males or female as far as feelings go, that can manifest "in the wrong body", is akin to a religious belief, having faith in something that is impossible to prove or disprove. The thing is though, that no one on the "trans" side can actually even explain what this "essence" is, they can't even explain it to themselves yet have convinced themselves that the feeling they have means they "are in the wrong body" - without realising that their discomfort simply stems from not realising that they view conforming to sexist stereotypes as legitimate measures of manhood or womanhood. That is why every explanation given of WHY a male "can't be a man, but is instead woman" etc. relies upon listing stereotypical stuff, or, in some cases is completely abstract and refuses to actually provide any explanation of what they mean, simply stating they "know" that what they feel means what they say it does, even though they can't actually provide a definition of it. "It's hard to explain but I know I'm right" is an attitude one constantly comes up against - a religious faith in something they can't define. This idea that the terms "man" and "woman" carry all this baggage, sexist stereotypes, that people need to live up to or feel comfortable with is a complete fabrication coming from the "trans" side. You lot want a term to reflect aspects of your personality as well, you want to create more boxes to put people in, as you won't accept simply just being a man or a woman based on being born male or female (and reaching adulthood, obviously people are boys and girls before becoming men or women), but believe you need this "freedom of expression" to broadcast what sexist stereotypes you feel more comfortable with - thinking the world needs to adopt the sexist view you lot have (you fail to see just how much you have in common with Conservatives). Replacing objective definitions which are based in physical reality, with entirely subjective metaphysical claims, is not logical in any way, is not morally superior, and is demonstrably harmful, not least to female rights and protections, but also to practically anyone that buys into it as it warps people's perception of the underlying issues. It hinders people in their quest for individuation, creating this false narrative of them becoming more "authentic" when the total opposite is true, they believe they need validation from others in order to be happy etc. instead of being encouraged to find more inner strength and resilience with less reliance on how people see them. Demanding to be legally recognised as the opposite sex of what one is, is in no way shape or form more authentic than accepting the physical reality one is born into. This "woman is a social construct" thing IS the part that validates and perpetuates sexist stereotypes - woman isn't a social construct in that sense, it is a word society has chosen yes, but to describe a PHYSICAL state of being, not anyone's emotional states or where they fall on some spectrum of masculinity or femininity. There is a fundamental misunderstanding here of what the definition of man and woman means. The notion that people need to live up to sexist stereotypes of what "real men" or "real women" are, is complete fantasy. The fact that many people act as if sexist stereotypes were valid ways of measuring "real men" or real women" is a problem with the individual and their sexist bias, not with the terms themselves, as the terms themselves have none of the expectational baggage that people who internalise sexist stereotypes associate with them. A woman, is an adult human female, it is not an "identity" or a feeling, dress, attitude etc., that whole line of thinking is regressive in the extreme. Claiming there is some "essence" to "womanhood" that also males can access, but the reality is that women do not have to look or act any certain way, or act out some ludicrously sexist idea of the “social role of a woman”, all females who reach adulthood are women regardless of how they feel or look, and the one thing they ALL have in common, the one experience they ALL share, is that they are FEMALE, they do not have to "identify" as anything, they physically ARE women because they are female. Why should MALES be allowed access to SINGLE-SEX spaces/sports reserved for FEMALES based on their "gender identity"? If sex and gender are separate, then a male announcing his "gender identity" is "trans woman" does nothing to change their sex, they are still MALE - so why should they be afforded rights reserved for the opposite SEX? The movement is regressively sexist, and misogynistic. Believing sexist stereotypes define men and women, instead of their biological sex, is unquestionably sexist to the core, because you are saying men and women are not actually free to behave however they want but need to conform to these sexist stereotypes in order to be men or women - if you say no they don't have to act any sort of way as a man or woman, and being a man or woman has nothing to do with biology - then what are you describing by calling someone a man or woman? If you think it doesn't describe biology, and doesn't describe anything about their looks or behaviour, then what on earth are you basing defining anyone as a man or woman on??? Why would a man need to become a "trans woman" in order to be their "authentic selves", why can't they just be a very feminine man and dress/act however they want?

@motherlame2510

7 ай бұрын

It's not a "feeling" from nowhere it's like saying a broken leg isn't real because you "feel" the pain. There is literal parts of your brain that go haywire because of your body not matching up to certain parts of your brain. It's not like your genitals and brain are separate each other. "You lot" always seem to forget about intersex people that literally prove gender is a spectrum and way more complex than people think. Like please people should really look into all the different ways that gender expressed in nature in animals and sea creatures it's just as diverse

@ambientjohnny

7 ай бұрын

@@motherlame2510 That you gender extremists are unwilling/unable to examine the actual root of the problem is on you lot. No one EVER manages to give a coherent not utterly subjective definition of any "gender identity" that isn't also completely regressive in its reliance on stereotypes - the case for "gender identity" being anything else than personality is not convincing in the slightest. "Literal parts of the brain that go haywire" - Evidence? I've already seen the "brain scans" etc. crap that gets brought up - none of it holds up - first of all, some of them were researched AFTER being on hormone treatments, failed to account for mental health and sexuality (significant because homosexual males have certain points that slightly differ from non-gay males, yet male "trans women" who are simply heterosexual have zero differences), ALSO, the fact that it was beyond clear to any researches who was male and who was female really doesn't support the point you lot try to make. Effing "intersex"... JFC, IT'S DISORDERS OF SEXUAL DEVELOPMENT, DSDs, they havE NOTHING to do with "trans" claims, and do NOT prove sex is anything but binary you simpleton - parts of their body FAIL TO DEVELOP NORMALLY, they are not in-between sexes, they are not a third option, they are literally ALL male OR female - the fact that TRAs CONSTANTLY bring this up shows none of you have the slightest clue about what DSDs actually are. Most DSDs ONLY AFFECT ONE SEX - do you get it? SEX-SPECIFIC conditions is your go-to for "proving" there is something else than male or female, it is so absolutely absurd it's both sad and hilarious. WTF does frog or fish anatomy or sexual reproduction have ANYTHING to do with humans? Absolutely nothing. Wow, you have SOO strong arguments. Stop trying to define people by what damn regressive stereotypes they adhere to and respect female boundaries and rights.

@fropi5523

7 ай бұрын

Quit the yappin

@fropi5523

7 ай бұрын

@@motherlame2510fr

@benjaminfranklin8412

7 ай бұрын

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So wonderfully written.

how about this: dont indluence kids into making desitions about their sexuallity, theres areason why they are not allowed to drink or smoke you know, schools should not have lgbtq staffing until college

@fabiodutra7053

6 ай бұрын

😂🌈👏👏👏👏👏😊

@AsheKardashe9

5 ай бұрын

I'm trans and I totally agree. But then we shouldn't have heterosexual people working in schools either until college. Elementary and high school should be gender neutral spaces.

I will always vote against trans activism

@fropi5523

7 ай бұрын

Why

@Magnocalabro

7 ай бұрын

​@@fropi5523Because they call us transphobic if we don't have sex with them. This says it all.

@benjaminfranklin8412

7 ай бұрын

But our side is losing at the ballot. 😮

@benjaminfranklin8412

7 ай бұрын

My theory is that the anti-trans movement exploded because of Lia Thomas, and at least 70 percent of the country decided the trans movement was misogyny with a new name.

@chaserseven2886

7 ай бұрын

@@Magnocalabroso it hurts your feelings and so you want me entire group to lose their rights?