it always amazes me the engineers couldn't allow an additional 1/8" clearance so that a normal size wrench could be used. I too have had to modify wrenches, shaking my head the entire time while doing it. Good information, thank you.

@tdmmcl1532

Жыл бұрын

I standard needle nose pliers can easily move into that space to turn it loose. it is NOT a tight hard torque set. I have a pair of thin wire stripper...thin enough with teeth on the end. An easy and quick turn and it breaks loose. Of course if you are really hard up and don't have a slim needle nose set of pliers..then just bend a long nail across a 1/2 inch bolt. Slip the bend around the solenoid nut and they you go..you just made a wrench. (there are two flats in the solenoid nut!). See how easy it is to fab up your own tooling. No need to run down to the big box store looking for the impossible tool you will use one time. Roll your own, just like pawpaw did when he was building his house with his bar hands and digging foundations with a shovel. 🙂

@monkeybarmonkeyman

Жыл бұрын

Often such designs are there to discourage the average person from messing with things... or removing them completely.

@tdmmcl1532

Жыл бұрын

@@monkeybarmonkeyman or because a company mechanic screwed the engineers' wife.

My solenoid felt warm and my mower would not crank. Knowing what it was gave me the courage to take my bowl off my snapper riding mower. It was just like he said. the carburetor cleaner worked just like he said. I clean the bowl, (in my case I did not have to take the solenoid off. It was mounted to the bottom of the bowl) cleaned and sprayed around the carburetor, etc., sprayed and sprayed the solenoid and finally got it to move, and put it all back together, and it works. Many Thanks.

Thanks for the information, at least you confirmed my assumption on its function and method. Mine is working fine at this point in time, but when I do the end of season maint, I will pull it and clean it up.

I've used skate board wrenches and roller skating wrenches because they are really thin and work great in a pinch thanks for the share

Great video as usual Jeremy!

Thanks for the info on the backfire preventer and how to get it off. I just cleaned a carb like that one and had to get that part off to get to the main jet and float valve. The mower belongs to my neighbor and he didn't put Sta-bil in his gas and it smelled awful. It runs like a top now. Thanks again.

I have checked several videos looking for how to fix Champion Power Generator Carburetor but the whole benefits were here in this Video ....thank you very much

Great video with good information as always buddy!

Thank you for this video, I was able to save hundreds of dollars doing it myself.

Thank you for the very good information on what a solenoid is and why!!! I have never had a problem with one; so for some unknown reason to myself, I always thought it was a mysterious, absolutely ESSENTIAL part of the engine STARTING!! I HAD SO MUCH EGG ON MY FACE after hearing you say it had NOTHING to do with the inner workings of the engine! Thank you so much for bringing enlightenment to my life. I am 76-year-old female and I do all of my maintenance and minor repairs myself, but as I said, I never had a problem with the solenoid so I never had to check it out. Left me laughing at myself. Hope you have a blessed day! THANK YOU!!! I will be looking forward to more videos!

@josem.2909

Жыл бұрын

You should make videos doing repair and hope these crazy ladies nowadays get to learn something what a woman really means

@georgiabandit1321

8 ай бұрын

Great video I know if you can clean it it's better than having to buy one there expensive 😜.

Thanks! Poured some bad gas in the tank ($1.89 from 2 years ago) and had to remove and clean. Wasn't sure what these things were for. Took maybe 5 minutes to grind a 1/2" wrench down. Cleaned the carb, inserted 100% gas and back in biz. :D

Thanks Jeremy! Had this happen to my mower today.

Good explanation there MM1.

I used the SPANNER WRENCH that comes for your Angle Head grinder..! Or your air Die Grinder wrench..!! No grinding needed..!

I have a very old Gedore brand wrench that just fits . They were the cheap ones that came in those little blue metal holders . I have people try and argue with me a lot saying that solenoid causes flooding . I tell them it does not have anything to do with flooding and they still insist it is the solenoid causing it .

Very good... I have salvaged a few of those solenoids the same way and my thinking is they should be removed every couple years and checked any way.

Can tell this was a while ago, OEM carb is 2X $$$$ now. Good video and description.

I appreciate the explanation of how the solenoid works. Excellent job! However, some folks don't have $70 maybe more today, to throw at a new carburetor. You said, "If it were yours, you would probably just clean it." When I repair a mower for someone, I always try saving them money.

@josem.2909

Жыл бұрын

I had good luck with cheap $19, $19, $22 dollars chin3se carburetors for riding mowers so why spend $70

@samwhite1345

9 ай бұрын

Channel lock are god

Thanjk You for teaching

a good way to test it is hook wire back up now turn switch on allso gd solenoid to eng you should see the tiny plunger go up and down as you turn key on and off thats all it can do

Great video! Gummed up probably from ethanol gas.

Cool. Just had a craftsman rider given to me cause they didn’t know how to deal with this issue. Easy money.

Luckily for me i decided to keep a few of the little flat cheap wrenches that come with certain furniture that requires assembly.. i found out there's a 10mm and 1/2 inch atleast.. they work great in these situations

Great vid! Nikki Sixx carb??? 😂 Didn't realize Motley ventured into fuel delivery other than Kickstarting my lawn mower

I love videos like this showing how it works or how if doesn’t work. Lol. Can u do a video on how a clutch works on a riding mower ( blade clutch))

A mechanic told me to saok the carb in brake fluid for 3 days, (after removing any gaskets and the float). I did this. Then washed it all, with fuel. Put it back on. Worked fine after that.

@ShainAndrews

2 жыл бұрын

Ultrasonic makes short work of it. Especially a carb in that condition.

My fuel shut-off solenoid valve has been non-functional for years to the point that my Kohler would not idle low not at high engine speed, it would pop fire. I removed the plunger; now the Kohler both idles and runs strong without pop.

Those beauties are much $$$$ !!

Thanks

I did this yesterday and just used a pair of channel locks to remove the bowl, then I just unscrewed the solenoid by hand. Just unplug it before you loosen.

@markb1100

2 ай бұрын

Used vice grip on mine

@THEMOWERMEDIC1

2 ай бұрын

Don’t always work with pliers

@flboiy8503

24 күн бұрын

I used needle nose

G'day mate. I had a problem with the fuel solenoid on my Husqcana ride-on mower and was able to get it working perfectly by removing the rubber tip (the part that actually seals and shuts off the fuel) of the solenoid and replacing it again. My question is... can I leave it like this forever? Is there any real need to have the fuel off when not using the mower? Maybe I am missing something as engines are not my forte' lol.

Couldn't imagine why lol i imagine putting in by the exhuast probably fries it over time

Thanks For letting us know that that is an unneeded part, next thing if you delete it will it have any negative effects on the electronics of the JD

Hello sir I have an lx277 could not get it started .replaced the fuel solenoid. Still could not start it sprayed some carb cleaner in the carb got it to start ran a wire to the solenoid from the battery + and it ran fine. The hour meter is blank and the PTO will not work. I am thinking about replacing the circuit board. Do you have any suggestions Thanks Joe P

Could it be cleaned by letting it sit in a solution of detergent that will break down the fuel deposits? Hopefully a new carburetor will not be needed.

I have a one that the wires were smoking on that valve, what would cause that? Lawnmower shut down and will not start, will turn over but not start.

Could this cause a carb to leak fuel from the bowl if it is not seating after the mower is shut off

Someone don't care about other people's stuff and it's a shame that they don't have any common sense. I would have been like the rock in walking tall, your all fired 🤣 great share thank you

I enjoyed the video. What are your feelings/suggestions on the new Kawasaki EFI fuel system vs their traditional carburetor system. I'm thinking about going EFI on my next mower most likely with a Kawasaki FX850 engine.

@CampingNstuff

Жыл бұрын

EFI is way more efficient and better in every way . Coming from the automotive industry now working on a fleet of small engine type system EFI and EFI diagnostics is second nature to me. But for many small engine mechanics EFI must seem like witchcraft 😂😂

If the solenoid is stuck. Could that cause the mower not to start?

Nice video Jeremy. Well being a tight wad i would clean it. But I am the old guy down the alley, keeping the neighbourhood mowed LOL. Nice work.

@THEMOWERMEDIC1

3 жыл бұрын

Customer wanted to save the labor in trying to rebuild. He agreed that new would be the better option as the cost would be nearly the same

@THEMOWERMEDIC1

3 жыл бұрын

Yup

Thanks I've been trying to find a specialty wrench🤦🏽‍♂️

@rjordan1982

2 жыл бұрын

Just search for a bike cone wrench set. They make thin wrenches for adjusting bike wheel hubs. You can get shitty stamped ones that work fine for like 8$

I’m assuming this could cause the engine to not fire. Even tho it’s probably more likely to get stuck down

My solenoid wont stay IN the bowl. I screw it in all the way and its still loose then eventually popped out, threads on the solenoid look good, so it must be in the bowl, unless someone has a suggestion.

Brigs and Stratton runs grate with no wires attached

Thanks for the video, do you ever run those thru an ultra sonic cleaner?? I have pretty good luck in my shop using them. Good Video.

@THEMOWERMEDIC1

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I have and works wonders

So what I'm hearing is I can just cut nub off to eliminate no fuel issue.. I tend to just shut fuel off on my generator and let run out of fuel in bowl

go to wall mart and get a bicycle repair wrench it works perfect ,, thats what i use

These solenoid should last forever. I don't see why they dont make these parts serviceable. I'm about to clean the solenoid out on my lawnmower. Hopefully everything goes well.

I'm kind of curious... if you shut the engine off and the solenoid is not functioning, I should think the odds of the carb flooding the engine would increase. If the needle valve for the float is gummed up, R&R on the solenoid would reduce the odds of flooding occurring, yes?

@THEMOWERMEDIC1

Жыл бұрын

The fuel solenoid has absolutely nothing to do with the carburetor flooding

My solenoid had minor damage from overheating at the electrical connection (a little melting). It is probably gummed up like the one in the video, leading to high resistance. My solenoid appears to be identical to the video part. I’m having problems finding a source for just the solenoid. Do you have any suggestions for where I could find this part? Hate to even consider buying the whole carb.

@DonaldRak-ku6bi

8 ай бұрын

Hi sir, I'm responding to you about this solenoid there problem, Saturday mine started little bit hard on 3 cranks then fired up, but I was cutting grass and turned corner and tractor just died shut off and white smoke poured out from under hood, Dam, I seriously and furiously looked what wire melting, wasn't wire was Dam Solenoid almost caught fire. I cool engine down and pulled solenoid off looking at it omg it was free movement but black plastic melted to metal part there made with electrical coil inside and spring rubber gasket So I'm adding fuel shut off in line before fuel filter and looking for new part but there expensive mine 22 hp briggs 50.00 Too me there fire hazard waiting to happen

Could you pull a red green an vise grip the whole unit instead of grinding down a wrench?

@THEMOWERMEDIC1

2 жыл бұрын

Yes or cut it off with a torch

Awesome video. You’re a great teacher. So why is a backfire such a bad thing? Can it cause damage?

@THEMOWERMEDIC1

3 жыл бұрын

It will blow the muffler clean off lol

@mikea-strong5020

3 жыл бұрын

Haha good to know thank you!

Dangit, thought this was my problem, but I guess not since I have fuel in my oil. Kohler 18hp, not even 50 hours on it.

instead of grinding a wrench down i make one out of 1/8 flat steel or use channel locks

@THEMOWERMEDIC1

Жыл бұрын

Channel locks don’t fit

The end of a set of electrical crimpers will fit in between seliond and carb and should remove seliond

Could you explain how these solenoid work on engines that do not have electric start / battery? What generates the current to open them? Thx.

@THEMOWERMEDIC1

2 жыл бұрын

What model are you refer to?

@LesterHightower

2 жыл бұрын

@@THEMOWERMEDIC1 - Champion generators have them on their carbs... A Model 100340, pull start, 5,000W generator that my dad has, for example.

@THEMOWERMEDIC1

2 жыл бұрын

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@LesterHightower

2 жыл бұрын

@@THEMOWERMEDIC1 - I had seen that video, but what I don't understand (and my question) is where does the 12V DC come from to open the solenoid if there is no battery?

Yeah, not sure why you thought you'd get by with just a solenoid cleaning. If the solenoid is that bad then you gotta assume the jets and the needle is just as bad.

what does thus mean ?

I ordered a new carburetor for my Briggs & Stratton 22 horse V-Twin for 19 bucks $2 shipping and handling. The only modification I have to do is lengthen a ground wire to the solenoid. one guy wanted 150 bucks just to put a kit in my old carburetor. This ain't rocket science! The new carburetor works great!

I think this is what is wrong with my Kawasaki. Gonna mimic this video and test it out. It won’t crack. Just clicks and then possibly floods

So I don’t going my wrench I’m screw?

I ground down the flats then I ground down the tip of the solenoid , reinstall

will that solienold prevent the engine from starting

It's not quite as simple as turn on the key and see if you have power at the fuel solenoid wire or if the plunger retracts or extends. You need to make sure all your safety limit switches are happy. Or you will still have no power to the solenoid wire. Like the safety limit switch in the seat and clutch pedal. If the circuits not happy you won't have power.

@THEMOWERMEDIC1

Ай бұрын

Safety switches control the ignition not the fuel solenoid and n most cases. Some mfg may do this but I’ve never seen it

They require a thin wreck because they want you to bring it back and pay their asses a fortune to work on I cut my off and tape the wire

A much better video would be seeing you clean it. Maybe do both.

@THEMOWERMEDIC1

3 жыл бұрын

I have tons Of carb cleaning videos. This video wasn’t about cleaning carbs. That’s a whole nuther can o worms. Thanks for watching

@monkeyman2174

3 жыл бұрын

@@THEMOWERMEDIC1 Yes I know. I have seen them and done it my self many times. They are jus so good to watch.

X300? X500? X320 ? Just curious

@THEMOWERMEDIC1

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

That didn’t fix my riding mower , must be something else .

@Davidsavage8008

3 ай бұрын

Fuel lines collapse inside hose . replace. Must have no air leaks in fuel lines

I told a guy that the sol had nothing to do with engine flooding--He said a briggs factory mechanic said I was wrong .... I said you are wrong and mechanic should go back to school-- I have been working on small engines for over 60 years

@THEMOWERMEDIC1

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve been to the Briggs factory School. And I will argue the fact that the solenoid will not cause flooding issues

Please don't get a new carb from China like I did. The emulsions tube was partially clogged up. It had to be cleaned before it operated right

Stay on point, quit talking about other crap

@THEMOWERMEDIC1

3 ай бұрын

Yes mam

if it fails it will fill thr crank vase with gas

@JGsgarage_unboxings

11 ай бұрын

False. The float and needle valve stop the gas flow

@christmascarolina6771

11 ай бұрын

im glad you think so

Then the problem is to discnect the wire i need to spin it with wire atatched that sylonoid is a pain in the ass

$160 at your local J Deere dearler now..!! (Dude, wear some gloves..!! Those chemicals will get to your body in time..!!

Run some Seafoam thru that carb and you won't have all the gummed up crap to worry about. If you use Seafoam, you wouldn't be replacing or trying to fix your carbs anymore.

@THEMOWERMEDIC1

Жыл бұрын

Seafoam is almost 100% alcohol, what does alcohol do? It absorbs water from the air seafoam is the last thing that I would put in anything.

@PainterD54

Жыл бұрын

@@THEMOWERMEDIC1 WTF? I've been using Seafoam for over 20 years now as do millions of people who swear by it. Why the negative comments about it? I don't really care what it's made of. I have never had to do rebuilds or clean my carbs since I started using it. It also makes a great fuel stabilizer for engine during long term storage. You are only fooling yourself by not trying it.

@THEMOWERMEDIC1

Жыл бұрын

@@PainterD54 you have your opinion about it and I have mine simple as that. I’m not being negative one iota

@PainterD54

Жыл бұрын

@@THEMOWERMEDIC1 Not my opinion, it's fact. Seafoam has been around for a long time because it works. It keeps the tiny journals and jet openings clean on carbs, FACT. I works great as a fuel stabilizer during the long term storage periods, FACT. My lawn mowers, motorcycles, chainsaws, etc. all start up after long term storage with no problems. The reason people have to make those kind of videos about how to fix gummed up or dirty carb parts is because they DON'T use Seafoam. It's proven preventative maintenance that works, FACT.

"If it were mine Id would probably go ahead and clean it but its only 70.00 bucks for a OEM." PEOPLE JUST DONT CARE ITS NOT THEIR MONEY HUH? PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH SLICK.