I only got into 30k recently and honestly it was 2 factors that made it possible. The boxed sets that GW released to give me a cheap (legit) way to buy into a new army. And the recasters allowing me to expand my army without destroying my bank account. I have about 2500 points of Night Lords now and I would say 3/5 would be legit models and 2/5 are recasts. I am expecting to expand this to about 50/50 for both and I think that is totally fair. My characters and books and my core force are all legit and I feel that it is completely fair considering I would have never purchased these without the support of recasters to enable me to buy up to a proper army size. Forgeworld/GW are basically getting about $200-400 a year from me to continue my force and that would honestly be $0 without the option for reasonable priced models from China.

@TheOuterCircle

7 жыл бұрын

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Money they'd never see is ironically going to them entirely thanks to recasters.

@terrellbyron6593

3 жыл бұрын

I know I'm kind of off topic but does anybody know of a good place to stream new tv shows online ?

@jesuskenneth4318

3 жыл бұрын

@Terrell Byron try FlixZone. You can find it by googling :)

@sterlingayden4863

3 жыл бұрын

@Terrell Byron I would suggest flixzone. You can find it by googling =)

@mobilegamersunite

2 жыл бұрын

Recasters are saving the game IMO

Lol 40% tariff to protect the domestic miniatures market

Australian GW pricing is a huge markup. I'm in the UK where prices are much lower but we consider them ridiculous here I can hardly imagine how annoying aussie prices must be

@solhamer3502

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's more than bad enough in this country. Certainly little reason to buy from GW directly. Element Gaming is much better, and Wayfarer has a 20% discount right now on most things.

I'm from México and there isn't an official GW store anywhere, only official retailers(?) and the mxn peso isn't holding well right know, so when anyone decides to buy a legit GW model, it means maybe spending half or even more from the paycheck. So plastic crack or food and toilet paper?

Both Tau and Necrons Warriors. 3rd edition release you got 12 models, plus 2 drones or 3 scarab bases, for 29.99 a box. Same box now is 60 for the Firewarriors I know, and thats only 10 warriors in the box. Yes that now includes the parts for the Breacher team but thats not nearly DOUBLE the amount of plastic you got with the 3rd edition box. Or take a Landraider which has had probably only about a 10% increase in the parts but has gone from the 45/50 range in 3rd to a whopping 75 dollars now.

the thing is, this isn't an exclusive issue with GW. Video Games are a prime example of Aus pricing being a rip off, the same with movies, music and pc hardware.

@folieadeux5463

7 жыл бұрын

yeah I agree. everything is really expensive except normal clothes and USB sticks I think.

here in japan we pay roughly the same crazy markup as australia. usually 50-80% more than the uk / us.

@TheOuterCircle

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it must be a special Pacific Tax. Funny enough, when the Aus $ is low they seem to set the prices, when it's high they seem to whistle and turn a blind eye...

@henry7696

7 жыл бұрын

yeah its stupid. the absolute worst examples are the single model, mono-pose characters. even with a salary that allows me quite a bit of expendable income, I look at the prices of a single figure, like the new ahriman for example, and it costs 5800 jpy...thats 41 gbp!!! for that fucking price, I can buy an entire start collecting set from wayland games and just pick it up to bring back here whenever I go home to visit. being able to afford it or not has nothing to do with blatant price gouging for no reason..fluctuating exchange rates definitely dont help either.

@TheOuterCircle

7 жыл бұрын

I have had friends on holiday in Europe and the USA buy me kits and mail them back before and I've saved literally hundreds, Cat actually saved $400 on one purchase once apparently.

@Jawsofhana

6 жыл бұрын

But you are closer to china, where most recasts seem to be done? I am happy to fund good recasters, because GW acts like a moneyhungry, evil megacorp. And yes, I condone recasts. Not afraid to say it. If I knew how, I'd do it myself, sell at material cost, since I am retired anyway.

@solhamer3502

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jawsofhana one option is to get a 3D printer.

If they LOWERED the prices, they would make more money!!!!!!!! PROFIT MONEY MORE POUNDS MORE CUSTOMERS MORE GOOD STUFF MORE PROFIT!!!! Understand GW?

@stian7479

4 жыл бұрын

You just want to lower their prices so you can buy more stuff, not for gw to earn more money

@stian7479

4 жыл бұрын

@Carlos C good point, but can you guarantee that people would actually spend more in total? It would still be pretty expensive to buy a full army.(unless they lowered their prices by at least 40%)

@stian7479

4 жыл бұрын

@Carlos CThere should be a special discount in Australia and New Zealand though.

agreed. as a fellow ausi I'm more than sick of the overcharging and more recently my local gw manager stated models with 3rd party bits aren't allowed on his store tables (and likely not in armies on parade style events) which has left me questioning whether it's worth my giving gw any money on another note I'm utterly fed up with the limited ed stuff that you either can't buy anymore or aren't available in our country (limited edition chaplain which is only available at new stores, imperial space maine only avalible in 2016 over one weekend, not to mention the wahammer world exclusives) at this point the only way to get them in aus is to get the recasts of them or insane ebay prices that could cover someone's education costs

Great video as always, I'm in the UK and even I think gamesworkshop are taking the piss with some of the prices so seeing the Australian prices was paonful, if gamesworkshop want to stop recasters they could implement a cast to order system for discontinued models and as for there event only models, why not have global events where you can buy them there its unfair more than anything, I don't have amy recasts myself but if they are getting people into the hobby and getting old models back in production then fair play to them.

I've recently wanted to start a krieg army and honestly it's 500 dollars for JUST 400 points that's outrageous and I'm contemplating recasting the bulk of my army that being the infantry or just buying from a recaster myself

@derekkrumel1407

4 жыл бұрын

Wargames Atlantic does some cool minis that may work for you

Are there any recasters you recommend for stuff FW doesn’t make anymore like torsos?

how much do the Australian 'start collecting' box sets cost? I know here (England) you can get them for around £45. It's a shame GW are doing this :(

US pays about 4/3rds the price of the UK price for gw miniatures, i dont know how much it is in australia, probably double the price or more. Eh the australian price over uk or us is random, sometimes a 30USD Chaplain Librarian and Captain is 50AUD, but a 19USD captain is also 50AUD

anyone know where I can get recasts, I can't afford to buy the real things.

I have switched to using recasts and other companies models because I feel it's the only way for us to get our point across. They destroyed lotr and WFB by price gouging and profit seems to be the only language they understand. I love how the gw fanboys fanatically keep paying retail for their models because when you think about it, they're paying for my recast models.

a shitlord HH player that tells it how he sees it? what the fuck is this? where is the eloquensce where is the "im so nice and inviting i can never show feelings" retorik?! this is like /tg/ or 1d4ch had a voice! instant sub, watched alot of your videos already. love em! keep it up mate - also if you live in australia go full recasts cause fuck gw for doing this to australians. me being in sweden its expensive as fuck, but you can atleast defend it in your mind. best regards!

@TheOuterCircle

7 жыл бұрын

We only tell it how we see it here, free content and reasoned ideas. I don't police the comments section either because we aren't asshats who only want agreement, we want to see all opinions, even the wrong ones.

@cheems4301

7 жыл бұрын

*rhetoric

@SpaceElf

7 жыл бұрын

It's just like /tg/ with a voice. Because he's constantly wrong.

@lordofmidgets8247

7 жыл бұрын

That's because only /pol/ is always right.

Just stumbled on this video, it was in my recommended vids Could another factor about pricing be to do with minimum wage in Australia and UK its about 18$aus minimum and about 7.50£uk

@maxm.9992

6 жыл бұрын

GhostAce901 cost of living makes that equalized, essentially. Same with the situation in the US. The prices are still ridiculous and recasters offer an affordable alternative

samsung galaxy s7 NOTEs where the ones exploding mainly i found that my s7 active is completely alright and it was mainly just shitty things happening in the notes to explode and people als using shitty charging cords.

I don't feel I in any-way covered off enough on the negatives of recasting. -the money is not pumped back into GW/FW so it doesn't encourage more sculpts and means less money for the design team to use. -GW is less invested in expanding their product -GW is more likely to charge more for their product in order to keep profits high... but that's only a problem if you live in Australia, because FUCK YOU, that's why.

@TheOuterCircle

7 жыл бұрын

Oh, and when I bought those 32mm bases, I didn't even realise they were GW brand bases, I just wanted 32mm size and got perfect GW bases... it's funny how things work out like that.

@braydoxastora5584

6 жыл бұрын

didn't even know this was a thing I've gotten conversion pieces but had no idea their were alternatives that weren't ridiculous

@hellonearth-thehistoryofwa1270

6 жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry about the bulshit currency thing mate, I'm sorry, also, don't forget our price include 20% tax, so if your taxes are less, you are screwed mroe. As a commonwealth realm citizen, I would happily pay more so we can all pay the same price.

I agree, atleast in Aus (where I am to) GW are ripping us off and need to fix their prices.

i used to cast my own stuff in resin myself at an equal detail level to forgeworld and it costs a tiny fraction of what they charge. as with other GW pricing it is hugely inflated. they have created their own problem in recasters as players will not tolerate such high prices and as you say, they vote with their wallet. i left GW games 2 years ago because i was no longer prepared to pay what they charged even using 15-20% off independent retailers. enter the recasters who put out a product that may not be as high a quality but still looks just the same when its cleaned up and painted for 50-75% less than the official model...usually with free shipping too. i will go to a recaster every single time. until GW reduce their prices...which they never will i will continue to buy what i can afford. they don't like that well they forced my hand. if it wasn't for recasters i would have stayed out of GW games indefinitely but because i can buy them cheap i picked up a 30k iron warriors list, 4000pts points worth, for £300. thats a grands worth almost at forgeworld prices. i would never ever pay a grand for a bunch of resin models i KNOW cost less than £30 in actual raw materials to make. probably much less as they buy in bulk for their resin. hell no. the same concept applies to pirating films etc. i would never buy dvds or blue rays at £10-20 a pop. never spend £30 on box sets for a single series. i can't afford to. its sales they never would have made from me regardless. BUT by watching it you enlarge its fanbase which only helps to inflate sales for stuff like merchandising in the long run and big picture. same principal applies to this. someone might see me playing my sweet ass iron warriors army and think fuck yeah i want some of this shit and goes n spends however much at GW. just using the product regardless of who you bought it from enlarges the fanbase big picture wise. i don't feel bad for doing it. you shouldn't either. if GW don't like it, they know what they can do don't they. they won't. but they know.

@TheOuterCircle

7 жыл бұрын

borkthebasher yeah, you've hit a certain nail right there.

I bought exactly TWO recast models and they were pretty good. But what I do now is buy everything used. And I don't have to wait very long *at all* for new products to appear at the used dealer. I pay about $5 to ship it from the UK and I pay about half the amount of money than what GW charges. I buy paint from them, but that's about it.

"when the demand is there and the supplier wants to fuck people around, people are gonna fuck back"... LOVE IT! The sad thing is unless the new senior management at GW actually take a look at the Australian market and what they are doing to themselves here long term nothing is going to change... almost every LGS I've been to in the last year has significantly shrunk WH40K and AoS display space (and stock levels), and in every case is now actually smaller than the space devoted to their competitors... GW have literally priced themselves out of the Australian market; they just dont know it yet...

@TheOuterCircle

7 жыл бұрын

Quite true. That's the trend I've seen in FLGS here myself, and funny enough my friends who manage FLGS say that Sigmar is outselling 40k. It's crazy.

@arthos85

7 жыл бұрын

Well the barrier to entry has been significantly lowered to get into the fantasy scene so TBH I think that would have been expected. I was always convinced that AoS didn't have the ability to retain its new player base long term, but its clear to me now; that isn't GWs strategy. They want new players to get in the door with AoS, progress to 40K and get locked in for life at 30K... Honestly with the announced changes in 8th ed, the next massive boom will again be in 30K & GW competitors (even more so than before) as the 40K old guard that are unhappy with the changes flock to their other solutions. Based on their strategy for customer retention, GW is banking on these people sticking with them and progressing to 30K, and this will happen to some extent even in Australia as more old school 40kers either have a 30k army already, OR they have been thinking about it but haven't felt totally compelled to drop the big $$ YET (something that will surely happen with they Sigmarize 40k). However, I personally believe that what GW haven't thought about is the price barrier of going from a playable AoS army to a playable 8th ed 40k army in AUD.... I foresee this groundswell of popularity in AoS not being converted into 40K sales down the line by GW here in Australia simply on price barrier to entry. Basically I see the hobby contracting significantly for GW in Australia over the next 5 years, where as I actually think this strategy will work rather well in other country's. They can give all the excuses they want for their prices here, overheads for their stores etc, but the fact is they are selling toy soldiers and craft supplies. If their business model means that to turn a profit they need these ludicrous prices then their model needs to change, because from where I'm sitting as a long term supporter of GW, that threats quadrant here is getting beyond risky in Australia for them. Even I'm thinking about buying into some Mantic stuff now... and I would have laughed in your face if you told me I'd be looking at other table top systems in my lifetime... GW has always been expensive, but theres a point where expensive became retarded... that was when that 40% price premium to the UK meant that you spend $100 for a single non-monstrous creature model.... seriously you gotta be fucking kidding right!? They need to stop with the BS Australia tax and sell their product for the price VERY close to the UK for their retention strategy to work in australia. Yeah their profit per item will drop, but their volume will go through the fucking roof! Now I have no figures to say that this would mean an actual profit for GW, but what I can say is even if its a short term financial loss, its better than losing your consumer base! Basically if they don't lower Australian prices with this strategy being implemented their longevity is toast in the Australian market. GW cant handle another 2 years of competitors taking market share from them here led alone another 5+ years. Unfortunately they don't see the urgency because they think if it comes to that point they will drop the prices and push the game and people will come back to them... WRONG... GW are forgetting something they've played off for years, the crazy levels of consumer loyalty found in table top gamers; when you have them they will go out of their way to support your game/company. But when you don't have them you need to be BOTH cheaper and better... and GW's general laziness and contempt for its customers has allowed other products to get their quality up to a NEAR GW standard... another couple of years and I doubt I'll be able to honestly say that GW is flat out better anymore. TLDR; they need to change the prices in Australia or they're boned in the Aus market.

Sorry to hear how they treat you lot so badly, I live in the UK and think the prices are extortionate but for you guys it is insane, they seriously need to sort it out because they shouldn't take more money from you just because you live somewhere else.

I think balance is needed - I've given FW plenty of sales (eg: a full zone mortalis), but have a bit of bootleg too. After cancelling Golden Daemon event outside the UK and making 7 editions of the rule book redundant - well there's some room for bootleg in my collection :)

Finally saved up the money for a chaos warhound. Looked on the forheworld sight and they don't make them any more. That's OK. I can afford 2 recast ones with no guilt.

Honestly a lot of my Slaanesh army is recast, but that's because the new deamonette minis look pretty ass in my opinion, like, pig faced crab women don't seem like the servants of a god of pleasure in my opinion

@brunneng38

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, they're hideous.

Now that I think about it, 3D printing is basically just the same supply-demand dilemma. You can even balance out how the quality and cost just to your liking.

I collect, paint and build 40k Squats and Fantasy Dogs of War, what options are there besides recasting and eBay? Hell, I'm currently looking into the legality of selling painted up Kneadatite Aluminium squat trikes as ''reproduction and painted'' miniatures, GW haven't made them in three decades and the prices they go for on eBay are like £10-20+ each. Recasting is a great thing, but only when the company stops making them, at that point its doing no harm to them and still supplies the demand.

@TheOuterCircle

6 жыл бұрын

I'm afraid there is no answer. If you want squats, perhaps go look at Mantic Games who make a sci-fi set of dwarves.

@DustyTheKitty

6 жыл бұрын

Oh the Forge Fathers? got 2 full boxed sets of those beauties, but they require a lot of work to replace their guns with bolters, Carving into the models torso, wish i had some dentist drilling tools, kinda work. A lot of them have the same issue with the single pose models AoS have, unless your willing to put in a whole lot of reconstruction to parts of the models torso, just ends up more trouble then it's worth for the rank and file troops.

@newtpondskipper

Жыл бұрын

Dogs of war are beautiful models.

Fair play to the fucking Aussies, I'd do it in a heartbeat. GW pricing is a piss take no matter how you slice it. My biggest problem is always older models steadily going up in price, such as the old fatemaster tzeentch guy on the dsic or the ancient as fuck skaven Jezzails. shit old sculpts, but the price goes up on 'em every year.

@XDLionelXD

7 жыл бұрын

recently ordered some of those jezzails, 70% off retail price lol.

@TheOuterCircle

7 жыл бұрын

Models that have clearly paid their mold and sculpt costs off years ago still go up in price. This is in stark contrast to aging gaming consoles and vehicles. Just wanted to point that out.

I only got one Squad of Intercessors and a Primaris LT, and I had my friends compare a legit GW Intercessor and the recast, same quality and couldn't tell the difference

id just assume its cos of the cost for importing the product like not the tax the actual cost of transporting it from the UK to Australia for example if you look what they are in danish krone there is a gap but its not as big

I bought my 6000 pts worth of Tyranids off Ebay 2nd hand, except for a few models at UK prices - still off ebay. I couldn't afford to pay GW prices in AUS.

i have been searching for a recaster that does LOTRSBG for a while now but havent found any yet, i dont really know where to start aside from cheap'n'fast but was told that they aren't great. the price of GW/FW lotr miniatures here in australia is ridiculous and to be honest the 2nd hand market isnt that cheap either. people dont sell single miniatures second hand, they usually want to sell it as a whole army so they can start a new one.

I personally think that recasts are great with FW stuff. Here in Italy, GW models aren't as costly as in Australia, but FW models are, so recasts can save you even 70-100 or more euros per model. W recasts :D

Any good recasters for the Guard? Watching this video has made me curious as to how I can expand cause Australian prices fml

Why is there such a huge mark up in price?

I completely agree with you. GW makes some great kits, but if their price gouging (which is what it is) makes it unreasonable for you to enjoy your hobby, then by all means, get re-casts, or get a similar model with the same footprint made by another company that isn't after your mortgage payment, and enjoy your hobby. At the end of the day no one should ever have to live life at a lower standard to enjoy a hobby. Any company that doesn't agree with that premise doesn't deserve to make a single cent.

I’m 100% with you on this. Tho I live in Melbourne so perhaps it’s because I know the Aussie price gouge pain.

I was in the middle of collecting a tomb kings army when they got nuked. I continued to collect but from China and don't feel a single ounce of guilt. Out of nowhere the army that I had spent at least £250 went last chance to buy. When I saw the quality of some recasts I was like "Fuck they're good!" Since then I have started a 30k army all recast. And it's not causing FW to lose money because they're is no chance in hell I would play with those prices. Like you said I've bought the books from FW without recasts I would never have bought those books.

Its here in the US too. Here they are also trying to put the independent game stores out of business and MAKE you get your stuff online. Also, try and get any bits. You can't get any of the plastic bits any, say shields or horses. Only way is to recast. ONLY way. Keep preaching it, brother!

@TheOuterCircle

7 жыл бұрын

Yes, much reduced stock to brick and mortar stores is their key tactic as it forces people online and they can talk all day long about improved online sales.

Even taking the price gouging for Australians out of the mix, the prices are way too high as is. Even those British prices are massively inflated and overpriced, it's why I've been entirely priced out of buying from GW all together. If I were in Australia I'd never have even started.

Now I live in Britain, and I would be blind to not see where you, and the recasters are coming from, but what I'd like to point out is that the models shouldn't be the fucking original prices by default. It's been really difficult for me to get into the hobby, because there's so many armies I'd like to play but I don't have the extreme sums of cash to shell out. Even when I stick to one army, it still takes a hell-uv-a-lot to get a nice 1k army, which is what my local recommends I walk in with. I'm not willing to pay £46 quid for something I can get for £20 or less from recasters (Thousand Sons Contemptor) or £50 for some nice looking Cataphractii termites that I can get for £20 (Heresy Era Scarab Occult Terminators).

If you saw Polish prices ... we pay less than in the UK. : D

totally up with you on OOP!

Sorry bro ....but after forge world messed my order up for 7 months straight...I had no choice. And I'm never going back! 😂 GW did this to itself.

I like recasts for the following reasons: 1: back in 5th edition, you had TWENTY(20) Cadian Guardsmen for $35, that was good! now, you have 10 Cadians for $30! yeah.. GW... if you're gonna cut the models in half, cut the prices in half! I have no problem paying $55 for a Land Raider, but when you raise it to $65? I'll go Ebay or Recast until you think it over..

GW literally says "Fuck you" to Australia with their draconian bullshit restrictions. If i were an Aussie I'd buy recasts every chance I'd get.

nice vid

Not a single bad as the NZ site I think. I'm British and live in England, but I look on the NZ site at like 1am on Saturday mornings to look at pre orders early.... The drop pod is like 3X the price!!!!!!

@TheOuterCircle

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah that's common. I have a screengrab to put up next scrubdown to price compare and lets just say it ain't pretty.

I pointed this out and morons told me it was the exchange rate no its not I did the exchange rate from the British and Canadian store prices and they DO NOT convert to the same price in both stores

@LordBoofhead1

6 жыл бұрын

It's shipping tariffs ect to. You are not as smart as you think you are

Also remember they are selling hit video games and black library books so they could give 2 shits about it if you buy or night

@derekkrumel1407

4 жыл бұрын

well then people shouldn't buy any of their crap. tired of these companies being so darn parasitic.

Same thing in the US but to a lesser extent. Item is 15 GBP, which is roughly 19 US Dollars, it sells for 25. Better example the new starter deals, Index and starter box. On the British site its 65 GBP, US its 110. So they are charging and extra 25 dollars compared to the exchange rate. Yeah thats no where near as bad as you Aussies who have to pay nearly double the GBP cost. GW uses the excuse its to pay store employees. Well guess what there are hardly any GW stores in the US so why am I paying a increase for no bloody reason?

Free market all day, the only money GW will ever get from me again is for the books.

you just got a subscriber!

New life goal: become CEO of GW. Day one: first words out of my mouth "Right, lower the prices." "20% reduction should be good to start in the uk, 40% in AU and NZ. If we make more profit after 4 months, lower again and repeat until profit goes down!"Day two: "listen to customers! They want it, we will sell it. Design team! Plastic Sisters of Battle... Go! New CSM codex... All the funds you want! Nerf OP stuff... DO IT NOW BEFORE ANOTHER CHAOS PLAYER LOSES TO TAU CHEESE!!!! Cheaper models for entry to the hobby. If I don't have a plan weitten in pen on my desk by next Monday, you're fired!!!" Day 3: "Fix the lore (except Ward's stuff, he gets his own day), reduce Black Library prices so people can actually know the fluff! Do model sales, like buy one get one half price! Get a GOOD 40K movie made!!!! And a GOOD 40K game that people have been asking for... Actually care about LoTR/The Hobbit..."Day 4: "Offer the guys who did Evil Craft miniatures jobs! Make a fan suggestion page!!! NOW!!!! Fix FW miscasts aand fix the missing parts issues..."Day 5: "Get Matt Ward here to burn his bad fluff and retcon it! ONLY the worst bits. Re write it but better!!! And make him BURN Guilliman!"

@ryomaashikaga8798

7 жыл бұрын

Data Wargaming make profit go down? 0-0

@TehChocco

7 жыл бұрын

omggggggg I am sick to death of this fucking argument, why are so many people economic simpletons. Just because they drop their price doesnt mean lost profits, if they drop prices (dramatically/ to realistic levels of markup) more people will buy models. If they drop prices they will experience a short drop in profits and then either recover to normal or exceed previous profits.

@nickbailey9552

6 жыл бұрын

Well, while you're at it, do me a favor and bring back the old deamonette sculpts, $10 says you'd get more slaanesh players

@nickbailey9552

6 жыл бұрын

Travis Smith A Vote For Travis Smith Is A Vote For Matt Ward Steaks!

I feel bad for you aussies for having to pay those prices. Sure here in EU area we also have to pay higher price from GW products but it's never that high compared to what you aussies have to pay for those.

yeah I want to play but priced out mang. I just watch mini wargaming and other sites battle reports.

I think the CEO of GW is still bitter that the British Empire fell or something. I really don't understand why they feel the need to be so parasitic.

You do realise it's the same for stuff made in Aus and sold in UK right? There's a bunch of stuff I buy for my son, mostly clothes, that isn't made by a UK company, I'm not forced to by that, I can just choose not to have it but if I want it I have to pay through the nose. U make it out to be as if it's all one way and it's not. It's shitty but true your not forced to buy it, you choose too.

66% Aussie tax 😱

While I agree that you guys and gals in Oz are getting charged very high prices you need to also factor in the international distribution costs to make a like for like cost comparison. You are not getting charged any extra over UK customers paying $7.00 postage on orders under $85.00 and GW has no Australia based production so the majority of the distribution costs are being hidden in the ticket price. Otherwise, the fact that FW costs about the same as GW for you is absolutely nuts.

@TheOuterCircle

7 жыл бұрын

For only $3,000 I can bring a fully laden shipping container from the USA to Australia across the Pacific. Also think, how much product from GW actually comes from China...

@leakycheese

7 жыл бұрын

The Outer Circle True, but that assumes GW have a lean Kanban logistics operation keeping the seven wastes to a minimum. I suggest they don't and send a steady stream of parcels, one per order, out to all overseas customers and don't bulk ship, they are using airmail. This means delivery times are quick but costs are high. Its not just here, they have separate warehouse locations and inventories and systems for GW and FW ranges - we all pay for that inefficient set up!

@EvilLobsterKing

6 жыл бұрын

It is cheaper to buy a start collecting box off eBay at the British price, with shipping to Australia, than it is too buy it here. I saved about $40 doing this. Now, I dunno about you, but I’m fairly sure a company shipping huge amounts of their own product costs more than that

@hellonearth-thehistoryofwa1270

6 жыл бұрын

Which is less than the mark-up plus 10% Oh and new zeland is further away than aus, and gets cheeper prices.

@hellonearth-thehistoryofwa1270

6 жыл бұрын

only the paper comes from, china.

and the UK prices aren't even good value for money.

Yeah I’m no longer buying GW products and just going recasts They’re so much cheaper and GW has been TAXING for FAR TOO LONG. We ALL KNOW HOW CHEAP THESE MODELS ARE TO MAKE AND ITS FUCKING RIDICULOUS.

"no country in the world has a 40% import tarif" Dunno about 40%... but here in argentina i pay 50% tax on the minis i order from abroad (YES... 50% + SHIPPING) and there's no way to buy them legit from a hobby shop (the tabletop gaming comunity is TINY), so i have to personally import stuff

@LordBoofhead1

6 жыл бұрын

Yep and companies get hit for bulk imports when we don't for single minis

China probably has a 40% tariff

It amazes me how they get away with this shit

you should see NZ mate. 100 fucking dollars for a Leman Russ.

Australians earn around 17 dollar per hour so the prices are in proportion to there wage and in the UK its around 8 pounds so it would still take around the same time in working hours to say buy slambo.

@michaelwhiting3282

6 жыл бұрын

But yes on some models extremely over priced

Vote with your wallet. My 30k army is basically 80 percent recast because otherwise I could not afford to play the game.

Last I heard, there was still that lawsuit here in the US over GW's markups. The company keeps dodging it by being in the UK and is trying to get the venue changed to the UK where the law will let them say "FUCK YOU"! This isn't even taking into account that, if you crunch the numbers, even if they were using milled steel molds, Forge World is making something like 300% profit. I'm honestly glad that I generally play orks, meaning I can kitbash and scratch-build most of my vehicles...

@harlandmountain7998

6 жыл бұрын

Yes! Most of my army was Mage-Knight minis that I replaced the weapons with stuff built from juice-box straws and chipboard. My vehicles were ALL scratch built or converted from cheap $1 vehicles. The only money GW saw from me was for my Ork Codex. Of course I quit playing some 17 years ago because a so-called friend moved without telling me and took my stuff with him.

@LordBoofhead1

6 жыл бұрын

That's not a lawsuit it thats a psychotic break. The guy is a nutter.

Drop the Chinese bases you bought into 99% alcohol. If they melt or otherwise deform, they are not the exact same product that GW sells. Learnt that first hand.

No country has 40% tax importer??? Please come to Brazil, gere is 60%, If your Lucky...

Tbh this just sounds like a convict complaining about geography, imports tax and indigenous production.

eh, i don't live in Australia...so I don't care. :)

@TheOuterCircle

7 жыл бұрын

Maybe not about price, but you may care about something else. For us tho, these are the key issues.

@derekkrumel1407

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheOuterCircle same thing in the US, now. I fully support getting recasts because, at this point, GW needs to get hit in the wallet before they'll understand that their business practices are parasitic.

this a troll? gotta be a troll. because anyone with a little fucking sense would understand why you are paying more for the model, for same reason you are paying more from everything else you would order from the UK. because the currency, which is caused by multiple factors but the result remains the same. you pay more because it is of equal worth. it is same everywhere, sometimes you pay less, sometimes more. depending on a country and currency. would think this is rather simple math, dont try telling me you didnt know this.

@TheOuterCircle

6 жыл бұрын

As someone who imports parts all the time from overseas for work, I perfectly understand how economics work, but rather than an inflation of price which correlates to other products from the UK. Essentially the UK price is: Cost + VAT = UK Price And the Australian Price should be: UK Price - VAT + GST(which is less than VAT) + import tariff(again, quite low) =/- Conversion rate But instead Australians and Kiwis, Japanese etc. get charged UK Price *PLUS* GST *PLUS* tariff and @ a fixed conversion rate so that you will always pay a much higher price.

Recast all day long, this is our hobby, fuck GW.