No. The gender rule only applies to the line of succession to the throne not on handing out titles.

@matthewcastleton2263

6 ай бұрын

Correct. Plus, that being said, why would the children of William and Kate get that title and not the children of the current Duke of York Andrew? Well, that's why, because both of his children are daughters and not sons. Ergo, they are ineligible to inherit his title of Duke of York. The title would become extinct at that point. However, Charles could then choose to bestow it anew, and he could choose to give it to the husband of Princess Beatrice, making him Duke and her Duchess of York

@anglosaxon5874

6 ай бұрын

@@matthewcastleton2263 The Duke of York/Albany titles [among others] are NOT inheritable. They belong to the sovereign that gives it to their second son. When the present holder dies [or is stripped of the title] it goes back to the sovereign and when William becomes King, Prince Louis will get it. You need to learn how royal titles work. It's not the same as other peerage titles. Otherwise the Duke of Edinburgh title would remain with King Charles [as he would 'inherit' it from Prince Philip], but it was given to Prince Edward [this title does not have any land or income attached to it].

Anne actually isnt the youngest of Charles' siblings, she is the 2nd born. she is older than both andrew and edward

@dasy2k1

Жыл бұрын

Exactly she was overtaken by Andrew and Edward due to the male preference primogenarure rules in force at the time. When the rule changed to absolute primogenarure it only affected those born after the change. Charlotte was the first female royal not to be overtaken by a younger brother

@slashdisco

Жыл бұрын

@@dasy2k1 How have you spelt primogeniture wrong *twice*?

@dasy2k1

Жыл бұрын

@@slashdisco auto miscorrect it would seem. It's not exactly a word I use often enough to be able to spell either

@maciedixon3983

Жыл бұрын

@@dasy2k1 ir would be better for everyone if her like were second cause Andrew is such a train wreck

Queen Regnant (female King) Queen Consort (wife of the King) Queen Dowager (the widowed Queen Consort/ The Queen Mother or The King's Mother) When Elizabeth II became Queen Regnant there was already a Queen Dowager in the form of her grandmother Queen Mary, Consort of George V. Because of this the widow of George VI opted to be known as Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother. So in 1952 The UK had three Queen's, The Queen, Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother and Queen Mary The Queen Dowager. Because Charles and Diana divorced, Diana was styled Princess Diana of Wales. When William becomes King his mother might be known as The King's Mother.

There was once a "Reigning" King and Queen at the same time: Mary II & William III. Normally William would have been the Prince Consort, but parliament agreed to make him a King to prevent a catholic king [James II] from returning to the throne [he was deposed].

@pedanticlady9126

Жыл бұрын

Mary II was the elder daughter of the deposed King James II. Her sister Anne became Queen after Wiilam III & Mary II.

@lsmith9249

Жыл бұрын

Anglo Saxon William III was first cousin of Mary II they were both grandchildren of Charles I William's mother was Charles eldest daughter

@anglosaxon5874

Жыл бұрын

@@lsmith9249 And your point is?

@lsmith9249

Жыл бұрын

@@anglosaxon5874 After Mary and her sister Anne, he was the next in line so he did have a claim

@anglosaxon5874

Жыл бұрын

@@lsmith9249 You don't know what you are talking about. He married the daughter of the king which would make him the Prince Consort [like Prince Philip to Queen Elizabeth II]. He had a fleet going up the Thames at the time and the parliament did not want a Catholic [James II - Mary's father] on the throne so agreed he could be king. Both had numbers [Mary II and William III] after their name making them ruling monarchs. It does not matter if he was X down the line with a claim. That is where George I comes in later. The nearest to the throne who was Protestant as opposed to the real heirs.

7:31 If Daina was still alive, she won't be able to use "Queen Consort" since her and Charles are divorced, but if you meant if they'd stayed togethed, then she's be called that. Her being called a "Princess" once the divorce was finalized was just an honorary title since she's the "People's Princess".

Some of the Princess Royal's descendants are interesting. She herself was an Equestrian champion, who competed in the Olympics. (Not surprising, with a very fine horsewoman for a mother! ) But her daughter Zara Tindall (née Phillips) was an even better Olympic champion in Equestrian events, until she recently retired. And Zara is married to a recently-retired Rugby Union player, Mike Tindall, who was Captain of England! ( To use an English expression, he's built like a brick sh*thouse...) They have three children, all in the line of succession.. They're very much part of the Royal famil

‘Why do American women have to ruin everything?’ Connor, do you have another story to tell us? 😉

Dont forget, if Dianna had not died in a car crash, they were still divorced, so I assume she'd have no titles anyhow.

@husseinmuhammed828

Жыл бұрын

Had Diana stayed alive despite her divorce and with Charles , her son being king would guarantee her a title from him , even perhaps restoring her hrh and a life peerage instead of the princess of wales . The queen made the previous duchess of Gloucester , a princess (Alice )yet initially she was born lady alice montague Douglas Scott

The ‘Queen Mother’ title was made up as Queen Elizabeth II’s mother was also called Elizabeth - and as she was married to a King - also a Queen. So she was also Queen Elizabeth, just not a reigning Queen. They thought people would get confused 😊

@sadiekincaid5310

Жыл бұрын

@Emma Hempstead the title of Queen Mother was actually created in 1560 to refer to King Edward VI late mother. When Queen Elizabeth II took the throne Queen Elizabeth's grandmother Queen Mary of tech went from being Queen Mother to Queen dowager and then Queen Elizabeth II mother went from being Queen consort to Queen Mother. Queen Mary of tech was only the queen dowager for one year because she died in March of 1953 after only been Queen Dowager since February of 1952. Queen Mary of tech was King George the Vl mother.

@jendreg1935

Жыл бұрын

Queen Mother usually just means the mother of the Monarch, it's not a oficial title.

@emmahempstead8114

Жыл бұрын

I stand corrected guys 😊 👍

Just to clear this up a little: Children and male-line Grandchildren of the monarch get the Prince/Princess title. While Elisabeth was still on the throne, Charles, Edward, Andrew, Anne,, William and Harry got it by that rule. William's kids got to be princes because there is a specific rule for the children of the heir's firstborn. Since Harry is second-born to the former heir Charles, this rule did not make his children Prince and Princess. Now that Charles is King, Archie and Lilibet are covered by the "male-line grandchildren of the monarch"-rule.

@lorrainegriffiths554

Жыл бұрын

that's right:)

@TheSusieTom

Жыл бұрын

The queen made an exception to give HRH to Williams children. According the the letters they would have normally waited until Charles was king. Hence it'll be interesting to see what will occur with Harry's kids now

@sadiekincaid5310

Жыл бұрын

@@TheSusieTom according to the laws that were set in 1917 by the Queen's grandfather (King George V) only Prince George would have had a prince title as well as the hrh Style. Where as Louis and Charlotte would have been Lord Louis and Lady Charlotte.

@TheSusieTom

Жыл бұрын

@@sadiekincaid5310 yes but Elizabeth II, made and exception and gifted them all titles on birth. Charles probably won't give titles to H and M kids as he wants small Royal family. Danish monarch just withdrew titles from some of her grandkids

@lsmith9249

Жыл бұрын

cmdstraker do read Letters Patent 1960,it explains why harry's do not have royal titles

No. Charlotte is 3rd. They changed the rules so that females are included in the succession if they are first born or born before a younger brother.

@lorrainegriffiths554

Жыл бұрын

goes william, george, charlotte then louis

Always love your commentary. I guess condolences beats congratulations. It really is not a prize, but duty, to be fulfilled. Queen Elizabeth followed two unwilling Kings, the uncle who abdicated, and then her own shy, reluctant farther - and it is generally considered it is what put him in an early grave. Elizabeth made a real, heartfelt point of stating that she would devote her life to that duty and serve her nation and commonwealth as long as she lived. And she did, right up to two days of her passing.

There was once a king and queen who did rule together, they were King William III & Queen Mary II.

Instead of congratulating King Charles the III, people would say, "The Queen is dead." "Long live The King!"

Hi Connor. We know you're fascinated by old film of byegone times. You can see on YT Queen Victoria's Funeral in 1901, George 6th visit to the USA to see Roosevelt (FDR) in 1939 and much more. I find them fascinating.

Bestowing the Prince of Wales title on the heir apparent isnt arbitrary. Prince of Wales is the second highest title the monarch posseses, and the second highest title is always used (throughout all nobility not just the Royal Family) as a courtesy title. For example, if i held the titles of ‘Duke of Nomansland’, ‘Earl Beefburger’ and ‘Marquess of Whocares’, my eldest son would be called Marquess of Whocares as a courtesy title as it is my second highest title. My most senior patrilineal grandson could also use the earldom as a courtesy title.

You mention that there is never a King and a Queen at the same time. You are correct generally. Twice in English or British rule there was co-monarchs. King William II & III and Queen Mary II were co-monarchs. That was because both of them had claims to the throne. Queen Mary I and King Philip of Spain were co-monarchs of England (but not of Spain). Philip was only co-monarch jure uxoris which basically means that he had the power of a co-monarch but it flowed from his wife. If she died he would automatically no longer be King of England.

The video isn’t entirely correct, Williams children weren’t all entitled to be princes and princess, only George was entitled to this role, but the Queen bestowed the name of Prince and princess on Louie and Charlotte so they would be equal as siblings, something she thought important to allow George to grow up without being resented by his siblings

@TheSusieTom

Жыл бұрын

Yes she made a change for the children of William but keep the tradition with Charles to decide on Harry's kids. It's didn't seem like he was going to give any out during his first talk to the nation

We had the joint reign of William and Mary. Mary being the daughter of King James.

@McJibbin ... Re @15:20 ... Prince Andrew already has accepted the Dukedom title Duke of York.. Prince Edward was offered a Dukedom title but held off as he was hoping to one day inherit his father's title Duke of Edinburgh. He accepted the title Earl of Wessex but is the one who works on behalf of the Duke of Edinburgh Awards Scheme which is now international. Hope this helps explain the situation Connor 😃 ps Good point about the York title though!

@MichaelJohnson-vi6eh

3 ай бұрын

I applaud the decision to make Edwards Dukedom a lifetime one only. James could be HRH the Earl of Wessex but thats all. In the future perhaps all royal Dukedoms will be lifetime only. If you arent a working member of the royal family, you get no title.

The Queen Mother is usually what becomes of a Queen Consort when a King dies and his son/daughter ascends to the throne.

For those royals born from 2011, the line of succession includes women in order of birth. So, Princess Charlotte is next in line before Prince Louis. For all those who were born before October 2011, the law stays as it was. So, Princess Anne is not second in line to the throne. (Otherwise it would have been a bit chaotic and Princess Anne had already chosen that her children would not receive titles.)

Kings & Queens can be co-rulers if they have equal claim to the throne or are granted that by the government. Ferdinand & Isabella of Spain (united the nation by joining 2 separate Kingdoms). William & Mary of England & Scotland (invited by Parliament to rule together. They were also cousins).

Harry is yesterdays prince

I'll finish off my comment. The Tindalls are very much part of the Royal family, but they have built up their own careers. Mike Tindall is now often a rugby pundit.

Indeed it is obvious why Harry is not 2nd in line to the thrown... Because William has issue _('s with that)._

15:08 "A king cannot officially hold any lesser title." I find that surprising and i'm not sure I believe it. I think the monarch still officially uses the title of Duke of Lancaster. And is also Duke of Normandy (but these days only with respect to the Channel Islands.)

@paulcollins5423

Жыл бұрын

They don’t use those titles - the King was not proclaimed as Duke of Lancaster or Duke of Normandy - but they are toasted as such in Lancashire and the Channel Islands respectively, regardless of gender. H.M. The Queen was still toasted as Duke, despite being a woman. Any UK title below King is held to have been merged into the Crown and so effectively becomes extinct at the moment its holder succeeds to the throne. So Duke of Edinburgh is now a vacant title for the King to grant, should he so wish.

@RB-747

Жыл бұрын

@@paulcollins5423 Normandy I think is still their official title in the Channel Islands?

@TheSusieTom

Жыл бұрын

They have multiple titles but will only be know as King

@MrBulky992

Жыл бұрын

@@RB-747 It's not an official title.

@MrBulky992

Жыл бұрын

George V had legal advice on whether or not he was Duke of Lancaster and the conclusion was 'probably not'. In any event, it's not an official title.

The male line only grandchildren rule might might change when Princess Charlotte is ready to have kids, because its rumored that at the time it was Princess Anne's decision that none of her children got titles. If Anne had pushed for it I'm sure Queen Elizabeth could of had those rules changed.

There is already a Duchess of York, Sarah - Prince Andrew's wife.

@lorrainegriffiths554

Жыл бұрын

andrew and sarah divorced in 1996 she was stripped of duchess of york

There have been co-monarchs throughout history. It is unusual, but not unknown. William III & Mary II of England, and Ferdinand & Isabella of Spain are two famous examples.

@paulcollins5423

Жыл бұрын

Queen Mary I’s husband, Phillip of Spain, was proclaimed King Consort (the only one, I believe, we have ever had). She wanted him to be a co-monarch but Parliament wouldn’t stand for it, so she had to settle for him being King Consort rather than Prince Consort. So he could theoretically have been considered a joint monarch, although definitely not in practice!

14:16 Of course you can be king. All you have to do is raise an army, conquer Great Britain and be proclaimed king. Then you put the crown on and you're done.👑

there is a curious note i always found fascinating that the video did not mentioned. Probably the reason the late queen gave her sons the title of duke/earl was that their wives would not be known as their husband's name, ex. Princess Charles, Princess Andrew, Princess Edward, Princess William, or Princess Harry. The queen does have a cousin whose wife was known as Princess Michael, and it is known she hates that.

@christinamoxon

Жыл бұрын

Princess Michael of Kent, yes. If Harry and his wife hand back their Ducal titles, Megan will only have access to the title "Princess Henry of Wales." Don't think she'd like that, somehow. She could only loose that if Harry was removed from the line of succession altogether, which is unlikely.

@TheSusieTom

Жыл бұрын

It's just tradition. Prince Michael of Kent is a cousin so his wife would not become princess xx due to him being a cousin and not direct line

@stpaley

Жыл бұрын

@@TheSusieTom Michael is a prince because is the grandson of a monarch, or course a cousin of a monarch wouldn't apply

You should really watch The Crown

Charlotte is third in line after George and before Louis.

I think this was changed by George v after the first war as to who would be a prince etc.

Britain did have a King William III of England (II of Scotland) and Queen Mary II of England (and Scotland) ruling jointly.

Mary II and William III ruled at the same time. They are co-monarch

Dowger Queen's retained their title like the Queen's grandmother wife of HM King George V after the King passed she was still known as Her Majesty' Queen Mary. When Queen Elizabeth's father King George VI died his wife Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth had the same name as her daughter the new HM Queen Elizabeth II , so that there wasn't any confusion between the two of them, Queen Elizabeth II gave her mother the title Her Majesty' Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother and was affectionately known as Her Majesty The Queen Mother. When King George VI died we had 3 Queen's Queen Elizabeth II, Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother & Queen Mary. Sadly Queen Mary passed away a few months before her granddaughters Coronation.

" The Queen is dead, long live the King " Yes, it's that callous.

@JoaoPFS01

Жыл бұрын

Just shows stability and continuity

@dasy2k1

Жыл бұрын

Although the correct time to congratulate a new monarch is on the occasion of their corrination not their ascention.

Camilla's great grandmother was Alice Keppel Edward V11 mistress 😕

In relation to Queen Mother- it is a courtesy Title, not a family position. The title is “The Queen Mother” not “the queen’s mother”. Queen Elizabeth, The Queen Mother would have held that title (Queen Mother) even if her child was a man who was King. In France, Queen Anne, The Queen Mother, was the mother of King Louis XIV. A Queen Consort who’s husband dies and her child ascends the throne becomes The Queen Mother. Queen Mary of Teck (mother of Edward VIII & George VI) was The Queen Mother until George VI died and was then simply Queen Mary. Diana was divorced from Charles, so even if she was alive & Charles died, she would not have been Queen Consort and therefore would not be Queen Mother once William ascended the throne. Queen Mother can only be used by a former Queen Consort, who’s child is now currently the Monarch. If a King dies and his brother inherits the throne then his wife (Queen Consort) is simply titled Queen (name [of birthplace]). Rule of thumb for “The Queen Mother” is she has to have been the Queen Consort of the deceased King (so now Queen Dowager) AND Mother of the current Monarch (whether that is a King or Queen).

I know it said that the monarch doesn’t hold any lesser titles, but one is associated with the monarch; the Duke of Lancaster. The Queen was also the Duke of Lancaster, because the Dukedom is hereditary whereas being a duchess is not.

One king ?King George V, decided there were going to be too many princes and princesses and there was some sensitivity around the expanding monarchy. So, he brought in the rule about only the children of the sovereign we’re going to be princes and princesses. The exception was the children of those first in line to the throne, if the reigning monarch decided to do this. Hence George, Charlotte and Louis are princes and princess. This is one of Meghan’s complaints, that her children were uniquely selected not to be Prince and Princess, but those are the rules. Now they HMQ has died, her children can be titled Prince and Princess. If only they lived in Bel Air …

There are three types of queen. Queen Regnant = Queen in their own right (gets a number, Elizabeth II was one) Queen consort (wife of King) Queen Dowager (widow of King) The wife of George VI was known as the Queen mother because there was 2 Queen Dowagers alive at the time (the queen's mother and her grandmother)

If Absolute Primogeniture was in force from the moment Elizabeth II was coronated it would be Charles, William, George, Charlotte, Louis, Harry, Archie, Lillibet, Anne, etc. If Male-Preference Primogeniture was still in force it would be William, George, Louis, Charlotte, Harry, etc. If Agnatic Primogeniture was the rule from now on it would be William, George, Louis, Harry, Archie, Andrew, etc.

There is a complication in the title of the Queen Mother, just because her name was Elizabeth and therefore she had the same first name as her daughter Queen Elizabeth II. If the Queen’s mother had been called (for example) Matilda, then she would simply have been called “Queen Matilda”. She would have been “Queen Matilda” (the Queen Consort) when King George VI was still alive, and then she would have been “Queen Matilda” (Queen Dowager) after he died. But because she had the same name, they invented the title “Queen Mother” in order to distinguish her from Queen Elizabeth II. If Princess Diana was still,alive, and if she was still married to Charles, then she would now be Queen (Consort). If Charles died, she would still be “Queen Diana” but it wouldn’t be necessary to call her “Queen :Mother”.

Incidentally, Harry's daughter Lilibet Diana is named after Queen Elizabeth and Princess Diana. Lilibet was The Queen's childhood nickname, and came about because either she or her younger sister Margaret pronounced Elizabeth that way when they were very young. Other family members also called her Lilibet. During Prince Phillip's funeral there was a note from The Queen on his coffin that was apparently signed "Lilibet". William's daughter is named Charlotte Elizabeth Diana, with Charlotte being the feminine form of Charles.

@paulcollins5423

Жыл бұрын

The condolences from King Felipe of Spain and his wife when Prince Phillip died were also addressed to his dear cousin, Lilibet.

Hi Connor

More of the queen please. her being a complete badass, her being funny or her top ten moments. She is the Grandma of the world.

From fairytales and stories and films many people believe that King and Queen is the ruling couple of a country… That’s not the case in reality. Countries that have (or used to have) Monarchs know the difference! There is only a King or a Queen. The King’s wife IS NOT a Queen and a Queen’s husband isn’t a King. Elizabeth was the *Queen* Prince Philip was her husband, he was the Prince of Edinburgh, husband of the Queen. Know, Charles is the *King* His wife is the wife of the King. That’s because Elizabeth, Charles and know William and Harry are from royal bloodline. They are the descendants of the old English Kings and Queens. There’s something called royal by blood and royal by marriage. William is royal by blood, Katherine is not royal. She is royal by marriage because she married a royal person! Katherine has “no right” to rule. She is the wife of the future King. When William will become King Katherine will be King’s wife. When sometime William will die, Katherine had no right to become a Queen, their son George will be the King and Katherine will be Queen mother=the mother of the King. Royal by marriage people cannot hold titles like King and Queen without a word beside them. They will always be Queen-consort, or King-consort, or Queen-mother… etc Now, Queen Elizabeth’s husband Price Philip was not royal by marriage. He was royal by blood because he was part of the Royal family of Hellas🇬🇷 His cousin King Konstantinos was the King of Hellas🇬🇷 So, Philip was royal by blood BUT he was married inside the British royal family where his titles didn’t had power! The British royal family has no power inside the Swedish royal family… etc Even thought Philip was royal he was Prince of Edinburgh during the reign of Queen Elizabeth, because he was fork a different royal family and his title was minor to Queen Elizabeth’s title. Philip was one of cousin of the King of Hellas, he was down in the line of succession. Queen Elizabeth was the heir to the British Throne. That’s why when they walked he was one step behind her. That’s what Katherine does. She stands one step beside William.

13:09 James, Viscount Severn has dark hair, but the photo has lots of sunlight on him so it makes him look more blond.

@carokat1111

Жыл бұрын

I think his hair has become darker as he's grown up and that photo was from a few years ago.

The Monarch whether King or Queen does automatically acquire the titles Duke of Lancaster and Duke of Normandy. Check out the reasons on Wiki...

@paulcollins5423

Жыл бұрын

I beg to differ. I can witter on and bore you to tears as to why the King or Queen is still toasted as Duke in Lancashire or the Channel Islands but they are not proclaimed as such nor do they use those titles at all.

The only way for a non royal to become king is through right of conquest but even then there is usually at least a distant family relation. A king like Henry VII is a good example of that.

@TheSusieTom

Жыл бұрын

Battle of bosworth was the last example

Watch "Prince Charles: Investiture of the Prince of Wales aka POW (1969)" that is the last formal investiture of that title.

The Queen Mother is not just the Queen’s mother but is how the mother of any monarch is known.

The title of Duke of Cornwall comes with a £1 billion estate, in the south east, mostly in Cornwall. Goes back to the early 1300s and comprises 52k hectares. Designed to provide an independent income for the Prince of Wales. Prince Charles made it much more profitable - selling his own brand of biscuits and renting out holiday lets. It’s where the ‘’non-government” money comes from. If Harry doesn’t give up on his book of revelations, particularly about Camilla, which was due this Xmas but has been postponed, he can pretty much forget about getting any more money from the royal family ie Prince William.

14:32 What? You didn't know this? You are a real American.

Not necessarily becomes the Queen mother, Queen Mary was known as Queen Mary and not the Queen mother, I don't know why, maybe we (as in us, the people) just called her that and it took off, or possibly because both were called Elizabeth so if you said Queen Elizabeth it wouldn't be clear if you were referring to the Queen or the Queen's mother.

King and queen only for William and Mary from 1688 following the glorious revolution.

Queenhood. An old-fashioned word coined in a bygone world. It is a taking hold and a letting go. Girlhood left behind like a favorite toy. Irreversible step over invisible brink. A new frock will be made, which is a country, hemmed with the white lace of it's shores, and here is a vast garden of Weald and Wold mountain and fell, lake, loch, cwm. It is constancy and it is change: the age of clockwork morphs into the digital days. But the song of the blackbird remains the same. Queenhood: a long winding procession from the Abbey door to the Abbey door. Queenhood: vows taken among bibles and blades, beneath braided banners and heralding Horns; the anointment of hand, breast, head with oil of cinnamon orange, musk and rose; promises sworn in secret under tented gold so daylight won't frighten the magic away, too sacred by far the camera to see. It is an undressing first, then a dressing up, a shedding of plain white cloth then the puting on of a linen gown and the supertunica - dazzling gold foil lined with crimson silk. Man will walk on the moon, great elms will fail and fall. But a knifes still a knife. A fork's still a fork. So the emblems and signs of royalty are produced: the guilded spurs; the blue steel sword - like a sliver of deep space drawn from the scabbard of night to punish and protect: bracelets to each wrist, sincerity and wisdom, both amour and bond. Love is still love is still love, war is war. And indestructible towers will atomise in a blink, the God particle will be flushed from it's hiding place. The sound barrier will twang with passenger planes. Civilisation will graft it's collective thoughts onto silicone wafers laureates will pass through court ...... But Taurus the bull on its heavenly tour will breach the same horizon at the given hour. Queenhood: it is the sky's it is also the soil of the land. It is life behind glass walls and fortified stones. Robe and stole are lifted onto your shoulders, both shield and yolk. Motherhood and womanhood will be taken as read. 'Multitasking' will be canonised as a new word. It is an honouring and also an honour. In the flare and blurr of an old film, ghostly knights and chess-piece bishops deliver the unearthly orb with it's pearly equator and polished realms into your open palm: and pass you the sceptre and rod of mercy and justice, one bearing a cross the other plumed with a white dove - and load your fourth finger with a ring that makes you the nations bride: and offer the white kid glove with it's scrollwork tattoo of thistles and shamrock oak leaves and acorns, then finally furnish your head with the crown - jewelled with history dense with glory - both owned and loaned at the same time. Do those burnished relics still hold the fingerprints of a twenty-seven-year-old? A priceless freight for a young woman to bear , but draped and adorned a monarch walks forward into the sideways weather of oncoming years. And the heavy cargoes of church and state lighten with each step, syrupy old gold transmuted to platinum, alchemy redefined. Queenhood: it is law and lore, the dream life and the documentary, a truthful fantasy. For generations we will not know such majesty. By Simon Armitage, Poet Laureate.

16:33 “Charlotte, Duchess of York”? Theoretically it could be, if the King wanted it to be.

@ianrobertson2282

Жыл бұрын

No. There already is a Duchess of York - Prince Andrew's ex-wife.

@johnloony68

Жыл бұрын

The point is that the King can decide to make up new titles if he wants to.

@ianrobertson2282

Жыл бұрын

@@johnloony68 Correct, but not double up on a title which already exists, and the title in question is Duchess of York.

There’s rumours in the papers that Edward won’t become The Duke of Edinburgh and that Charles intends to give that title to someone in the direct line of succession. Edward’s initials are EARL so it was a bit of a joke that he was he was given the title of Earl of Wessex. It was intended that he would become Duke of Edinburgh. Maybe not.

@paulcollins5423

Жыл бұрын

Indeed. It seems harsh if he doesn’t get a Dukedom - especially as he is much more of a working Royal these days than either Prince Andrew or Prince Harry.

@TheSusieTom

Жыл бұрын

May get it later in life, a royal dukedom is a promotion after all

Charles would not bestow the title of Duke of Edinburgh on Andrew for a number of reasons. First off, the Duke of York is a higher title than the Duke of Edinburgh. Both the Queen and her husband, the Duke always intended the title to go to Edward. This was indicated in two ways. First, when he married he was given the title of Earl which is two rungs below a Duke. He could have been given any number of Dukedom titles which were available at that time but he wasn't. Second, he was the one to take over the duties of the "Duke of Edinburgh Award Scheme" from his father. It was always known that when the Duke of Edinbugh died the title would go to Charles. Thereafter as soon as Charles became King the title became available again. Charles is clearly aware of his parents wishes. It just remains to be seen when he considers it the appropriate time to bestow the title of Edward.

@paulcollins5423

Жыл бұрын

I agree with you, although I don't agree that there were loads of possible titles available - in fact, they are running out of traditional royal dukedoms to bestow. Apart from Edinburgh, Clarence (which doesn't have a great history for its past holders) is about all that’s left at the moment, without creating new ones that have never been used for Princes before.

Some middle Eastern or Arab kingdoms pass from brother to brother first.

@paulcollins5423

Жыл бұрын

So did the crowns of England and Scotland (quite separately) about a thousand years ago. Alfred the Great, for example, succeeded his brother despite his brother having sons living at the time he died. It all changed (in England, anyway) when William the Conqueror came to the throne. Both the Queen and King Charles, of course, are descended from both of them.

Hi Connor. I can see you getting confused by British Royal Family. So: if Charles and Diana would not divorced when Charles became king, Diana would be The Queen Consort. If she would be alive today but divorced, she probably would keep title of Princess of Wales, but without HRH. It could complicate things a bit as on Charles becoming a King, Prince William became HRH Prince of Wales and his wife HRH Princess of Wales. I am not sure if there would be a possibility of being TWO Princesses of Wales. I am not sure Charles would be able to remarry if Diana would be still alive as he is a head of the church of England. I recently found out that down to monarch's grandchildren they can be called prince/princess. That's why Prince Harry's children are now Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet. One thing I don't understand is why children of Prince Edward (the youngest son of The Queen) were never referred to as Prince and Princess. By the way Prince Philip was Prince Consort.

@zoeharris883

Жыл бұрын

Prince Edward and his wife Sophie chose not to have their children be a prince and princess, they were given lesser titles. They made that decision because they wanted their children to have a more normal childhood. In the case of Prince Harry’s kids, as the grandchildren of the monarch they are now entitled to be a Prince and Princess. If tradition is followed then they WILL become Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet, although they would not be HRH (His/Her Royal Highness) because Prince Harry and Meghan are no longer Working Royals. However, King Charles III will not be making any comments about any new titles for anyone until after the official mourning period is over on the 26th, Prince William being given the title Prince of Wales has been the only exception. After the mourning period we will, presumably, find out if Archie and Lilibet will be officially be Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet of Sussex. That’s also when I assume we’ll find out if King Charles III is going to make Prince Edward the Duke of Edinburgh or not.

I love how you're trying to make sense of completely nonsensical rules.

I surely hope that the prince and princess titles are not used. Meghan has already registered the trademarks Prince Archie and Pribcess lillybet anlong with the website to merch them. Also the day the queen passed away she has her Wikipedia change so it said that she was the daughter in law of Charles III which is pretty disgusting. And to add further insult she's been caught with recording devices at the Walkabout at Windsor Castle with the prince and princess of Wales

@linnettsamuel5026

Жыл бұрын

The real reason she fled to USA is that the Royal doctor had to witness the birth by law to confirm they weren't switched at birth with none royal kid.

No, Charlotte would not be Dutchess of York because she is not the second-born son.

@janettesinclair6279

Жыл бұрын

So it would go to Louis? I'm British and even I am confused!!

@jazzycat8917

Жыл бұрын

@@janettesinclair6279 Unless Andrew dies before Charles, in which case it would go to Harry first.

@cmdstraker

Жыл бұрын

@@jazzycat8917 The way things are going, I wouldn't put money on Harry getting any additional titles.

@cmdstraker

Жыл бұрын

@@janettesinclair6279 Under the assumption that Charles will die before Andrew, the title would go to Luis upon Andrew's death. In case Charles survives Andrew that title would have to go to Harry.

@cmdstraker

Жыл бұрын

@@jazzycat8917 If Charles dies before Andrew, William is King. Making Luis the second son. I think you have things slightly backwards.

I have now been promoted to 2nd Head Chimney Sweep. It sounds better than it is though.

Bestowing the heir the title of prince of Whales wasn’t arbitrary, it was fully intentional. It was used as a means to subjugate the welsh into the England and later the British Empire. The British destroyed the Welsh kingdoms, and they would like the Welsh to remember that.

@lorrainegriffiths554

Жыл бұрын

Wales still exists that was hundreds of years ago.

@kylepickus5712

Жыл бұрын

@@lorrainegriffiths554 whales exists, but not any kingdoms of whales.

@lorrainegriffiths554

Жыл бұрын

@@kylepickus5712 whales in the oceans and seas aye lol

@kylepickus5712

Жыл бұрын

@@lorrainegriffiths554 ma bad lol😂

I am very sorry to nag but she would be called the kings mother the Queen mother just look it up k

Queen Elizabeth, asked to be called The Queen Mother because it would have been confusing to have two Queen Elizabeths,

@butthead1233

10 ай бұрын

queen mother is a title too.

@lsmith9249

10 ай бұрын

@@butthead1233 our Queen Mother ask to be called Queen Mother, because it would have been confusing to have been confusing to have two Queen Elizabeths, Dowager Queens are not given the title the title of Queen Mother is not a title that is in our royal family

@butthead1233

10 ай бұрын

@@lsmith9249 that is part of the reason too. but queen mother is a title. queen mary was a queen mother but she didn’t use it. a queen dowager becomes a queen mother when there’s a new queen dowager

@lsmith9249

10 ай бұрын

@@butthead1233 no a Dowager Queen is not a Queen Mother there is no such title in our royal family Queen Alexandra was Queen Alexandra till her death so was Queen Mary but the press would call Mary the Queen Mother, but it is not a title in our royal family and you say a Dowager Queen becomes a Queen Mother when there is a new Dowager Queen our Queen Mother asked to be called that because it would have been confusing to have two Queen Elizabeths and from 1952 until her death, Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother was the only Dowager Queen you don't know anything about titles

@butthead1233

10 ай бұрын

@@lsmith9249 a queen mother is ALWAYS a dowager queen. yes you are correct about how it’ll be confusing to have two queen elizabeth’s and that’s why she used the queen mother title, but i did not say that you were wrong either. and no the queen mother was not the only dowager queen from 1952 till 2002, u forgot about queen mary.

What they really need to do is stop giving out titles now....... I mean since Philip died, there has been no Duke of Edinburgh, and now that William is next up, they should do away with his former title Duke of Cambridge......... Harry can keep his title - - Ginger Nuts

It's interesting to me as an American that Prince William and Harry have different last names

@lorrainegriffiths554

Жыл бұрын

eh? they both come from the house of windsor formerly gotha-battenburg. William gets called william camebridge because he is duke of camebridge.

@allyriastark3508

Жыл бұрын

They had different last names after William's marriage, Harry was known as Prince Henry of Wales until his marriage in 2018

I agree with you that King sounds cooler than Queen. 🇬🇧🇺🇸😀

No Diana would not be Queen mother today if she were still alive because she is not Camillas mother

Well done Connor for watching all of that and having the patience to understand it 👍 I'm sure a lot of Brits wouldn't be bothered !

If Charlotte was born before George, she would be third in line.

@allyriastark3508

Жыл бұрын

No, if she was the oldest she would be 2nd in line as well. QE2 released a letters patent in 2012 changing the rules of succesion so William's eldest child, weather male or female will be the future monarch and all of William's children will be Prince and Princess - originally only eldest child of William could have a title

@pedanticradiator1491

3 ай бұрын

​@@allyriastark3508 it wasn't a letters patent the succession rules were changed by all 16 Parliaments of the then Commonwealth realms plus the state and provincial legistures of Australia and Canada. The succession can not just be changed by tbe monarch

ehhh shes was the queen while the uk was stealing and subjugating i think if you ask anyone in ireland or india you can learn quite abit about the royal families crimes i believe there were even celebrations at the news of her passing

@paulcollins5423

Жыл бұрын

The Royal family’s crimes or the crimes of the British Government? I’ve got some sympathy for claims about the historical crimes of the Government in the past but the idea that the Queen personally went around despoiling, subjugating or enslaving anyone is beyond daft.

@lorrainegriffiths554

Жыл бұрын

we were celebrating Queen Elizabeth ll life.

You're instinct in not wanting to congratulate Charles is well founded! I think it's more apt to simply declare 'God Save The King'.

@dasy2k1

Жыл бұрын

I agree. The time to celebrate a new monarch is at their corrination which is normally 6-18 months after they become monarch (normally the summer after so expect Charles to be crowned between June and August 2023 )

No Charlotte would be after george

What ridiculousness!

You think a King sounds cool. I’m the opposite, I think Queens are better. Queens are softer matriarch figures. Kings seem less endearing and less disarming to the public.

gender rules only applies to the line of succession not to titles of Duchies Earldoms or Principality's

@ianrobertson2282

Жыл бұрын

They apply to all titles of nobility in the UK, according to the Letters Patent which created the title.

Camilla was consort, it was a diplomatic choosing by the Queen, I think a lot of people weren't happy with Camilla being Queen outright. Diana would have been Queen if she was still married to Charles. A king is higher than a queen so Queen Elizabeth couldn't have made Philip King but Charles can have a queen. The queen rightly took away Harry and Megans titles because they didn't want to work for the privilage of being royal. HRH comes with responsibilities. It's not a passport to go on tv doing chat shows and making money.

@lorrainegriffiths554

Жыл бұрын

Diana passed on so no.

@twoofsix3b3g

Жыл бұрын

Queen Consort was not a diplomatic choosing of Queen Elizabeth.. she was detailing that Camilla is to be referred to as Queen Camilla. The Consort bit Is not used. It is to formally indicate that the holder is not the Rex or Regina (blood Royals) Philip was a Consort to Queen Elizabeth. . her mother was a Consort to King George VIII but was referred to as Queen Elizabeth , her maiden name being Elizabeth Bowes Lyon

Hi Conor, I think you'll find the only way to become a Duchess is to marry a Duke, I don't believe a woman can be a Duchess in her own right.

@paulcollins5423

Жыл бұрын

It has happened a handful of times before - Margaret de Brotherton was Duchess of Norfolk in her own right in the 14th Century, two of Charles II’s mistresses were created Duchesses (check out Barbara Villiers and Louise de Kerouaille) and King Edward VII’s granddaughter, Princess Arthur of Connaught, was Duchess of Fife in her own right too.

@lorrainegriffiths554

Жыл бұрын

yes they can be Duchess in their own right.

Guess I’ll be first here aswell

Wales - Edward I: complete invasion, build lots of castles, subdue, take the Prince of Wales title for your son.

Well done are the others stupid

Lilibet won't be in line because she was born outside UK so she is not 7th place not in line to throne

@jazzycat8917

Жыл бұрын

Thats completely wrong. She is a dual citizen and still in line, whatever rule you think prevents that was either repealed or you just made it up because even a cursory search proves that not true.

@robbpatterson6796

Жыл бұрын

George II? Born in Hanover (Germany)

@dasy2k1

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely no rule preventing somone born abroad from holding a position in the order of succession. Only being Catholic would prevent that (marrying a Catholic used to also be a bar but that's no longer the case) In the Highly unlikely event of her ever getting to the top of the line she would simply have to renounce her US citizenship (she already has British citizenship too) Incidentally had she have acquired Canadian citizenship instead of American at birth she would be able to keep that due to Canada being a commonwealth realm.... Technically Charles III is now Canadian whenever he is in Canada. (same applies to Australia, NZ and various other places)

@michael_177

Жыл бұрын

This comment just isn't true

@lorrainegriffiths554

Жыл бұрын

@@dasy2k1 Not true.

Anne was not the youngest she is just last because boys come first in the line of succession.

@pedanticradiator1491

3 ай бұрын

Well boys born before 2011 do

You are rambling, best write down your bullet points and it will flow better. Lost interest in commentary.