This is really nice! I'm glad you shared this with us Mike!

Sweet. 45 euro for the cooler and 18 euro for the noctua fan. Finally something nice that is cheaper in the eu :p

Great review

I don't know about other people but the thought of having to browse and filter hundreds of part options,check for clearances, make endless spreadsheets and to be able to build the best smallest 3d workstation gets me pumped up! But also a bit sad since I just updated my full tower ATX rig to a 5900x :))

Noiseless Flipped Noctua Fan works with a small spacer between fan and heatsink - this reduces the noisy turbulence between the fan and the fins. This shaved off some dbAs and worked best for me. I used a thin 3D-printed ring, but you probably could replace that with the thinnest ring of a Noctua NA-FD1 fan duct kit. I would love to see the temp/dbA results of that in the comparison.

Thankyou! Watching this Video has just helped me solve an issue with a total different Modded platform I'm working on :-)) Cheers - Jass.

black ridge + arctic slim 120mm fan = the best low profile cooler ever made

@tomppeli.

2 жыл бұрын

Not a slim Noctua fan? Or is that better price-to-performance?

@Amogh-Dongre

2 жыл бұрын

@@tomppeli. better performance and slightly cheaper too machines and more has a video comparing the two But do keep in mind that you need vlp memory for 120mm fan below the heatsink

@MK2396E

2 жыл бұрын

I would go with black ridge and Corsair RGB 120mm fan. I wonder if it would fit in the Asus ROG pre-build PC with the i7 9700F.

@Thor_Asgard_

2 жыл бұрын

@@MK2396E just take a corsair fan for reduced performance ^^

@Phanbot01

2 жыл бұрын

@@MK2396E You have to do research, I don't think it can handle a cpu with more than 125 watt tdp. I've only used it with AMD CPUs under 100 watts.

Been using this for 3-4 years since the pandemic. Still impressed

Been using this thing for 2 years in a 7.5L case in a double fan intake config, first on a 2600x then 5600x. I have no plan to let it go any time soon. Simply amazing performance!

@nahrizulashraf

2 жыл бұрын

what case are you using?

@ArmoredForms

2 жыл бұрын

Same! However, now I am curious about what they are saying with one 120 it being better. I wonder if it would be better than the double intake config...

@lstommy

2 жыл бұрын

@@nahrizulashraf ZS A4 V2

@lstommy

2 жыл бұрын

@@ArmoredForms ya me too. But it will b3 such a hassle to open up the build and test this. Will get to it next time I clean the build haha

@simonescano

2 жыл бұрын

@@lstommy how are the temps on the 5800x? is it stock or undervolted?

Great video! Thanks!

Mikes videos are always fun

@HardwareCanucks

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Do you think that with a swapped out fan for a 92mm Noctua Slim Fan that this thing can possibly handle the Ryzen 7 5800X3D? Or is the 5700X still the max it can hold up to?

I have this and the NH-L9A coolers. I really should try using them. Another *sky* light review.

Got it, love it

A side note: Using the Noctua 92mm in a pull configuration does raise the noise, but ends up quieter then the stock fan by a lot, while giving you better thermals. You do give up some noise, but depending on your use case, it might be more worth it. Unless you can go with a slim 120mm underneath in a pull configuration, but as many have mentioned you'll need VLP memory for that, which is hard to find. Also you are limited to slower speeds and lower timings for VLP ram as well (so those looking for a gaming IGPU setup, this would not be optimal.)

@mikeymaiku

Жыл бұрын

i found some on aliexpress,didnt take very long either for ADATA 3200mhz, 8gb sticks only as thats the only capacity you can get the vlp in, and they were... 45(CAD) a peice... would accept the much looser timings but thats due to the nature of the ram and SFF.

@lordhighbinary2006

Жыл бұрын

@@mikeymaiku wow, those use to be way more expensive. The other issue if you haven’t noticed is the CAS latency. (Usually between 19 and 21, vs normal sticks that are 17 or less). I’ve not seen higher then 3200mhz either, but 3200-3600 is the sweet spot regrading performance IMHO

since this is basically an is-47k, i can say you likely had the fan rubbing up against the heatsink a bit when you flipped the fan. adding a tiny spacer in between the heatsink and fan should help, happened to me when i flipped my fan. and the performance in that config is great.

Thanks for this! I'm looking for something to go with my SalvoStudios S402 and this might be it.

When flipping the fan the extra noise is caused by turbulence. You can hack it by adding an extra space between the fan and the ventirad by adding 4 to 5 washers in between them. Better temperature and less noise

Sry for asking but I didn’t get it in the video. In which position and orientation did you mount the noctua 90mm fan when you replaced the original one?

Great video! Curious how the Thermalright AXP-90R would perform with the Noctua fan as well

@peanutbutteroneverything1537

2 жыл бұрын

Ditto. I want to see how all these other Coolers do with noctua swaps

@betarayfil

2 жыл бұрын

@@peanutbutteroneverything1537 and noctua l9 + 92x25 fan, I use l9+92x25mm fan and whant to see its comparison

@jesh879

2 жыл бұрын

Probably the same or better with better compatibility.

@derekyam1805

Жыл бұрын

@@betarayfil I did that combo, its not as good as the stock fan. I'm getting 5*c better thermals all around with it.

i was looking for more info about the 120+92 fan combo and loved that you actually included in those tests, i was considering not to put the 92 fan under the heatsink as the manufacturer does not recommend this and then it was displayed in the tests that single 120 is actually better than 120+92 combo, thank you for this super useful video

Biggest problem I had with this cooler was it blocking my video slot. Nowhere is it mentioned that this thing is designed to work with a riser cable so if you are using a case like my NR200 you are out of luck. Glad you mentioned it but many tech reviewers never did.

@anastasiacynthia1446

11 ай бұрын

why low profile? nr200 can handle bigger cooler like nh-u12a

which orientation (stock/flipped) are you using for BR+Noctua at 10:18?

Ok noob question, how do you mount the different sized fans? Does the Alpenfohn kit provides some extra mounting? I would buy the coller but need to know that beforehand.

I would suggest you purchase the Noctua NM-AM4-L9aL9i Backplate ($8 in US) for proper cooler mounting pressure and no motherboard deformation when installing this cooler. In my tests against the Noctua L-12 Ghost edition with both coolers using Noctua L9x14 fans underneath and a variety of 15 & 25 mm top fans in dual downdraft mode, the Noctua L-12 performed slightly better if you have the space available.

Does the cooling with two thin 120 in push/pull get better?

What are that keyboard and those speakers? They look awesome!

Ok. So blackridge and the 120mm 50 mm h flex. In push config. Sounds good. Question. Can i get a total height for the fan + motherboard in this configuration? I want to know the thickness of a case that can support this config.

Means that the cooling performance much better with single 120mm fans? or combine both with stock small fans?

How does this in the 120 slim config compare to the thermalright axp120-x67? Do ou think these coolers could handle a 7950x3d given how efficient that chip is?

i’m sorry but something doesn’t add up, can you clarify? 11:43 two fans, I assume, in push - pull configuration on either side of the cooler are WORSE than just one fan in push on top of the cooler? how is that even possible that one fan does so much better than two?

Shouldn't the AXP-90 and Cryorig coolers be tested and compared with the noctua 92mm fan too for an apples to apples comparison?

@kingofstrike1234

2 жыл бұрын

well not only cryorig but the other coolers as well

If you want to add a backplate then the Noctua L9a kit fits nicely

i wonder how it would compare to the id-cooling is47k since they both have the same number of heatpipes but there are more fins surface area (by the looks of it) than the black ridge

@niospartan

2 жыл бұрын

I have the is47k and everytime its reviewed people say its shit because the fan blows up through the fins. Litteraly flipping it dropped several degrees. Changed to a noctua to be quieter and the highest ive seen is 69c on my 5600x playing cyberpunk. I honestly think theyre the same. I dont get the for youtuber hardons for the black ridge

On looking it up, it doesn't appear to be LGA1700 compatible.

How does the black ridge with the noctua a9x14 hs-pwm 47mm height compare to the noctua l9a with a a9 25mm fan for 47-48mm height?

Does anyone have a solution to running the m.2 without the heatsink?

I don't want to sound like I am nit picking but why wasn't it suggested to flip the fan if it was on top upside down to pull air through the heatsink right out of the case? Or a push-pull config for using both the fans on top and bottom? It would make sense that you wouldn't want 2 fans trying to push air into the fins that would cause turbulence.

I'm super surprised it's actually black again. When it was first released they had to stop production because the coating was causing temperature issues so for years it was sold as bare. People made fun of it for being black in name but not in actuality. Glad to see they sorted that out.

@MKR3238

2 жыл бұрын

Was wondering why mine never looked black like on the packahing, this explains it haha

I had an Alpenfohn Brocken 3 cooler in my last system and I always wondered why their coolers never seemed to be covered by the big reviewers given how good the performance is, so have to say I was surprised to learn they don't exist in the North American market.

thx for this video, in DK the things is around 50 murican bobs

What would happened, if you would change the stock fan to ap 90r's? i think it would improve more? Dont you think?

Make a review of Thermalright axp-100 full copper 58-60mm please 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 with/without 120mm fan bracket

Which is beter? this with 15mm fan on top or axp100 copper?

I’m currently using one of these coolers in stock form in my Skyreach Mini S4 case with a Ryzen 5800X3D cpu and it keeps it temps well under throttling limits under a hard gaming session or some production loads which is great to see. I did have to fudge the cooler (squash it a couple mm’s) to get it in the Skyreach Mini S4, but it wasn’t much effort on my part. Worth its $$$$ and scored it on sale here in Australia for about 40% off on sale 🥰👍🤯😇 the stars were all aligned for my purchase after a bit of a wait as they initially were sold out in many places and came on sale almost as soon as they went back in stock 👍😇🤯🫠🫠

@pamariens2039

2 жыл бұрын

What are the temps while gaming?

Seeing how the 5800x3d runs hotter than the 5900x (unless you undervolt the 5800x3d), is it safe to assume the black ridge would work well with a 5900x at stock/undervolt? I also got the v2 but since I’m using a 3070ti fe, I can rock it in 2 slot mode and have enough space to use a 15m slim fan on top on the BR. Currently using my 5900x with an ek 240 aio (idle temps are 48-54c/ gaming temps 64c-76c) in the t1 v2 and I mainly use it for gaming only. Haven’t touched video editing, rendering, streaming, benchmarks, etc but I at least plan to stream and do some light to medium video editing. I hate water coolers so I don’t have to worry about clutter and leakage but still want to have good temps/performance while air cooling. I already have the cooler and a noctua chromax slim 15m fan but holding off buying the 5800x3d and sticking with my 5900x until I get a clear answer for my situation

Love Alpenfohn, I use 3 of their wing boost rgb on my 360 rad.

My head asking me what will happen if you pair this cooler with Phanteks T30.

Yes let’s go deep on this one.

how about fan on top but flow to outside not on MB?

Which is better, axp 100r copper or this with 15mm slim on top?

What timing. I’ve been thinking of selling my brand new ek aio240 and buy this but don’t know if I should since there’s not a lot of information on my build. I’m thinking of using the black ridge to cool a 5900x in a formd t1 v2 with the gigabyte b550 itx motherboard and crucial ballistix ram. I know cooling may be an issue but what’s bothering me is I don’t know if my motherboard and ram are compatible with the cpu cooler. It’s mixed and people say it fits and some says it does, so idk

This is similar in principal to system i built. I have this mITX case that looks sort of the the NZXT H1, and i noticed that the Noctua C14S comes right up to the case fan fan bracket, so i bought some slim 120mm fans that exhaust out of the case and even though the C14S isnt really a great cooler for hot CPUs. My OC'd 5700G (2466 UCLK, MCLK, FCLK, 4933CL17-17-17-28) only gets to 78-80c even though it is pushing past 95w and the orientation of the heat sink is probably the least optimal way to mount it(had to have the heat pipes oriented with the bend facing up)

Why not put a Noctua fan on the competition as well? I’m very interested in the results of a AXP-90x47 vs Black Ridge if both have a Noctua fan equipped.

check Thermalright AXP120-X67 please, very interesting in comparision with Black Ridge 120x15 mode

I'd love to see a review of the ID-COOLING IS-60 EVO ARGB from you guys. I haven't seen an in-depth review of that cooler and how it compares to other Low-Profile coolers.

@mikeymaiku

2 жыл бұрын

They are just the is 47k with a rgb fan... If thats true thier smaller is-50 outperforms the 47k and the 60 non rgb

@HardwareCanucks

2 жыл бұрын

Its coming up!

@riba2233

2 жыл бұрын

@@HardwareCanucks also is60 v2 and is47s should release soon, keep an eye on them, the, look very promising

@kusaclips

2 жыл бұрын

@@HardwareCanucks Oh Nice! Can't wait for that review. They also have a separate Mounting Kit for that cooler with a backplate, did you guys have that mounting kit as well or did you just use the included ones that don't have the backplate?

cool little cooler if I have a spare 120 laying around

I was looking for a good cooler for the Ssupd Meshlicious case. Seems like I've found it.

Will this work with the asrock deskmini a300w

I was lucky got 2 of these from overclock UK even with the extra for shipping and duties it was cheaper then any option on Amazon

I use a black ridge with 120mm Noctua fan under it and VLP RAM. 9700k at 110W. Got it in intake position as that has usually yielded best results based on testing. My current gripe with this cooler is how it STILL does not support intel 12th gen.

@arcticequine7084

2 жыл бұрын

The Ben Nevis lga1700 adapter that Alpenföhn sells looks suspiciously close in terms of set up to allow it to work with the black ridge, provided you can still use the back screws to mount it to the motherboard and set the Nevis’ top side spring screws beforehand. Make sure to check tdp amounts for whatever alder lake cpu you want to go with before trying though. The overclockable ones can be well above 120 watts, and might exceed the black ridge’s abilities.

@odinsplaygrounds

2 жыл бұрын

@@arcticequine7084 12th gen is not a problem, you just have to tune it properly. If Black Ridge can handle 110W, then make that the power limit. 12th gen has diminishing returns at higher power draw anyway. Regarding the mounting, I wouldn't risk just buying some other and hope it would work. I have asked them directly (as far back as October 2021) and they said they are working on it. But it's been a half year without anything happening.

@alpenfoehn-de

2 жыл бұрын

You can order the LGA 1700 brackets now.

Kudos for pronouncing Alpemföhn correctly

I seriously considered it for my mini itx build since i had a max clearence of 47mm. In the end a 5 degrees lower temperature was cool compared to the lh9a, but i was not willing to accept the compromises. I got a lh9a (chromax) for 20€ used, a black ridge was 45€ MORE if you consider the extra noctua fan. Than i could get 16 gb 4400mhz ram for 110€, going low profile could mean payng 180€ more or loose speed down to 3200mhz. Not considering there was some uncertainty about the compatibility with my selected mobo heatsinks. So yeah, 5 degrees less is cool, but not worth it in my opinion.

@lordhighbinary2006

2 жыл бұрын

I've found that it's significantly lower if you use it in a pull configuration (and a 92mm Noctua). I will say: if you create a duct for the Noctua (lh9a/i) it will drop the temps even more, negating some of the bonuses of using the BR in a pull configuration with a Noctua fan. What I haven't tried though is creating a duct for the Black Ridge (won't do much for a push configuration though, only pull). Would be interesting to see. Again, the BR is more then just 5deg, as I find it not to spike the temps as much as the lh9a on higher wattage processors, but in pull mode only. And NOT with the stock fan. Which would drive up the price even more. Higher wattage processors is where I see the lh9a/i start to fail, especially on highly variable load. Note: the lh9a/i is still an great cpu cooler for the price, put a duct on it and it goes from good, to amazing. I just find the BR to be better (modded, not stock). Take that with a grain of salt though.

@druidobianco9734

2 жыл бұрын

@@lordhighbinary2006 thanksfor the suggestion, a duct seems a pretty useful upgrade. Of course the max potential of the blackridge is shownwithmost powerful cpus, i consciously choose a 65w tdp cpu to pair with the l9a, for higher tdps the blackridge seems the better choice

@lordhighbinary2006

2 жыл бұрын

@@druidobianco9734 There are a few 3d print designs floating around. Or you can make one with cardboard and/or foam. Noctua did make the NA-FD1, which is a fan duct kit (multiple thicknesses of foam gaskets) which works quite well, if you can't be bothered to make your own.

Please review the id-cooling IS-55 and IS-60 evo.

@HardwareCanucks

Жыл бұрын

Soon!

I went with Noctua L9 as BR is hard to find and I think it's not officially available here as well.

my setup on Ryzen 3600 w/ 80W OC: BR 32€, Noctua NM-AM4-L9aL9i 8€, NF-A12x15 23€ super happy, super quiet, recommendable

OK, is there any cable riser for rams 😅

Off topic. Are those Edifier R1280DB Speakers? How good are they? My Presonus Eris already went kaput in just over a year.

@HardwareCanucks

2 жыл бұрын

Very good!

Since you are going "fatter", would you consider testing the JONSBO HX6200D? It is a boutique-sizes "low profile" but it would be really interesting to compare since it's not as expensive as the Alpenfohn Black Ridge and it can use a custom 120mm fan.

Ahhh... Would have also loved to see it used with the Noctua fan ducts. =) Never heard of this cooler. Just found one online. With shipping, it's about 108 beaver bucks.

@HardwareCanucks

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I paid $120.....

@k.o.t.o.n.

2 жыл бұрын

@@HardwareCanucks what about id 47sk with noctoa fan? And you have standard ram support which means up to ddr5 6400mhz from factory

What is really strange to me, is that this product is difficult to source in NA and apparently costly to do so, and yet here in Aus I managed to find one for only $70AU! And yet, if I were to purchase the cooler I would prefer, the Scythe Shuriken 3, I would have to import and it would cost $160AU. Nuts! I'm used to certain products being unavailable here, but I was not expecting the availability to be flipped like this!

Can you compare it to the Noctua NH L12S (or L12 Ghost S1 edition) next? Yes the L12 is not as low profile but compared to your 120mm fan config they should be about the same height...

@HardwareCanucks

2 жыл бұрын

Coming up!

This straight up looks like my Noctua NH-L12S.

The latest version of this structure should be idcooling IS 6K, but the original fan is not very effective. If a 25mm thick fan is installed, the height limit will reach 72mm. The IS 55 recently launched has good compatibility. It is installed with a fan with a thickness of 15mm, and the height limit is 55mm. 25 mm is 65 mm. 30mm is 70mm (such as T30)

Now I have the urge to buy a Fractal Node 202...

how does it compare to my c14s?

As far as I know it does not have LGA 1700 support though, I am staying with the Noctua NH-L12 Ghost S1 edition.

@alpenfoehn-de

2 жыл бұрын

You can order the brackets now.

If you rotate it 180º, won't it make a gpu and ram fit? If you don't have io heatsinks that is.

Been a big fan of mine for as long as I've had it too! Switching to the noctua 92mm was the first thing I did + ad a 120 on top.

I wonder how big shuriken 3 would do compare to the blk ridge

@HardwareCanucks

2 жыл бұрын

The Big Shuriken 3 is in a whole other category.

2 years old now - for the black ridge... I perfer to AXP90, very similar performance but no much limitation.

How can I mount this cooler on a 17xx processor? Because, in their website they say it is not compatible with 17xx processors. Thank you.

@DigitalJedi

2 жыл бұрын

If it's not listed as compatible with lga 1700 then it probably just isn't. Some coolers don't have a long enough cold plate to cover the new longer cpus.

@HardwareCanucks

2 жыл бұрын

It is not compatible but I wouldn't be surprised if this is re-released with AM5 / 1700 compatibility.

Not having a back plate is not a downside for me. Some mITX boards have nonstandard electrical components on the back of the CPU socket that causes issues. Ex. MSI B550I Gaming Edge

Given what this was designed for, it’s still more economical than the 92mm Asetek AIO for the Dan A4

Awesome cooler, is it for everyone no, you need to do your build around it, correct mainboad, ram, case and riser. Possibly need to mod things. It's not for the first time builder. It for the fastest possible system in the smallest possible box like the geeek a30.

In my country 49$ for this cooler. I guess I’ll go just buy it :D

not me thinking just mount a 120 mm fan backwards on the top but they didn't even cover that

A backplate is mostly required to distribute the weight of a heavy cooler, right? Which is not the case here.

@HardwareCanucks

2 жыл бұрын

Its for more even mounting and to prevent motherboard damage as well.

Lol, that Noctua 92x15mm fan is simply unbeatable.

1:50 AUD and GBP were the strangest currencys you could have taken there

What about 2 92mm fans in pushpull config? 👀

@HardwareCanucks

2 жыл бұрын

You can't mount a 92mm fan to the top unfortunately but I'm guessing something could be worked out. ;)

Man this made me wanna get the axp 90 instead of the axp 100

Isn't the comparaison unfair? How other cooler perform with the fan swapped for the Noctua fan?

@HardwareCanucks

2 жыл бұрын

We tested stock vs stock. Its impossible to test every cooler with every fan.

Now I want a benchmark for the best CPU fan and then benchmark this fan on a bunch of coolers and see the best result that the coolers can over.

@HardwareCanucks

2 жыл бұрын

Already done! ;)

@riba2233

2 жыл бұрын

@@HardwareCanucks can't wait :)

@MrSongib

2 жыл бұрын

@@HardwareCanucks SeemsGood

Wait what? I thought North Americans were unable to pronounce ö/ø correctly. Mike totally nailed it!

Pronouncing the name correctly 🤩

IS-50X not in the competition?

With this cooler I'd recommend using some sort of backplate because otherwise there is a real risk of bending your motherboard over time. For myself I purchased a Noctua mounting kit just to use their backplate. Some people have also reported slightly lower temps after using a Noctua backplate although I can't necessarily attest to that because I didn't bother measuring before and after.

How does it perform with a flipped (pull) Noctua 92 mm fan

@HardwareCanucks

2 жыл бұрын

The fin array isn't designed for that and it causes excess noise. Its one of the reason why the L12 series has two holes cut into the fins: to cut down on back pressure when pulling through the fins.

Now versus the thermalright SL-100