I wished I would have taken ear pro more seriously. At 32, I already have serious tinnitus and high frequency hearing loss. It started with subwoofers in high school, then firearms, then drag racing, then working around industrial and construction machinery. Apparently, standing next to a pile driver all day isn't good for your hearing. You would also be surprised at how loud hammer strikes can be. Just driving nails into plywood can be as loud as a gunshot. I swear that it has also messed with my balance. After a very close gunshot by my left ear without ear pro I started to notice I would get vertigo at times. Another thing I experience is called diplacusis, which is where you hear one sound at two different pitches or even at two different times. It is extremely strange to experience. It generally happens with higher pitched sounds and female voices. It sounds like two people talking at the exact same time, but at different frequencies. Your inner ear is damaged so it sends corrupted signals to your brain which then interprets the corrupted signal as either a pitch difference or a time difference. Take hearing protection serious. All I hear is ringing and it can be aggravating at night. I have to sleep with the tv on just to get to sleep.

@intox69

2 жыл бұрын

Yea same here man...

@Southized

2 жыл бұрын

You can also here things on your right side but your brain will think its on the left...

@Southized

2 жыл бұрын

One thing i have learned to do over the years is i can close my ears they will almost start vibrating and it will muffle pistols shots generously.

@chrisspencer6502

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry what did you say?! There's a ringing in my ear

Good topic. Please protect your ears. I have tinnitus so bad now that all I hear is high pitched ringing in my head 24/7. And there’s no cure. Growing up on a farm the machinery got me first. Then going with no hearing protection while shooting until I was about 23. By then it was to late

Just a note on Ear Plugs/Foamies, To get proper protection you have to extend your ear with your other hand while inserting them into your ear canal. Most people, and I have been guilty of it too, just push them in with one hand and leave it at that. Yes, that works to some degree but it's not giving you the full NRR protection that it was designed to do. So, if you want to be able to hear your Grand Babies make those cute little infant sounds, wear your hearing protection properly. As Eric said, Once it's gone, it's gone. So protect your self. Thanks for sharing this fellas.

@Razor-gx2dq

2 жыл бұрын

Ohhhhh, I didn't know that

I’ve got coworkers younger than me (I’m 30) that have major hearing loss in one or both ears from both work and shooting. It’s important to take care of your hearing be it at work or in your hobbies be it shooting, woodworking, metalworking, cars etc etc.

@dimapeace602

2 жыл бұрын

Hello, please send at least some of your weapons, bulletproof vests and helmets to Ukraine, it now needs your weapons against the Russian invaders. Who supports, like. Thank you in advance! Slava Ukraine!

That thumbnail is priceless. Two youngsters in their formidable years. 🤠👍

@tylerandersenandthegang

2 жыл бұрын

Where do they show that picture other than the Thumbnail I need a better look

@NoNo_IStay

2 жыл бұрын

@@tylerandersenandthegang screen shot and zoom like a true creep bubba 👍

@tylerandersenandthegang

2 жыл бұрын

@@NoNo_IStay did it lol

@NoNo_IStay

2 жыл бұрын

@@tylerandersenandthegang haha here you go I hadn't gotten this far yet when I commented the first time 17:36

@NoNo_IStay

2 жыл бұрын

Times like those is where IV8888 was born! Just a couple of kids wanting to share the exploding watermelon with the world!

In Vietnam we would bury small connex boxes in the berm around the mountain I was on, and cut gun ports in them for bunkers. Try shooting a few hundred rounds with an M60 in a metal box while someone on each side of you is shooting their M14 or M16. I finally learned to break off cigarette filters and make ear plugs with them in Vietnam. My ears still ring louder than most people talk, and understanding speech gets harder every year. Hearing aids just make the tinnitus worse if I wear them longer than a few hours. Take care of your ears!

Note that even with doubling up, a certain amount of bone conduction still brings the "shock and awe" into your ears through the bones in your face. So for really heavy loads, big muzzle brakes, etc there may be no choice but limiting your round count per session if you want to avoid damage. Learned this from a friend who is a audiologist. This does not mean that hearing protection doesn't work - it absolutely does, and you are crazy not to use it! Just be aware that even the best measures are not 100% protection when it gets to the loudest, most violent sound impulses.

I always double up ear pro shooting thousands of rounds a year. One time I went muffs only and shot a few magazines of full power 10mm, my hearing was definitely impacted for a day.

@dimapeace602

2 жыл бұрын

Hello, please send at least some of your weapons, bulletproof vests and helmets to Ukraine, it now needs your weapons against the Russian invaders. Who supports, like. Thank you in advance! Slava Ukraine!

@youngblood8050

10 ай бұрын

You got some poorly made muffs.

@jamesfranko5098

3 ай бұрын

​@@youngblood8050some people just have better hearing which is more easily damaged in there same way some people have better vision than others. Try to actually think about an issue before you comment.

Allow suppressors to be sold over the counter with no B.S. That’s the best ear protection. I still wear loose plugs in the ear for supersonic. Without a suppressor even doubling up it doesn’t work well especially in indoor ranges.

@kwakamonkey

2 жыл бұрын

One of the reasons to get one in the UK was for hearing protection.

@bryananderson3772

2 жыл бұрын

If it's that bad for you then don't shoot at all - says a liberal somewhere

@kwakamonkey

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sommyie we can carry a knife. Just certain restrictions on what you can carry and where you can carry them.

@morpheusgreene2704

2 жыл бұрын

​@@kwakamonkey you cant EDC anything bigger than a pen knife, it is pathetic.

@ArmedChicano

2 жыл бұрын

Indoor ranges are echo Chambers

Word to the wise, watch this on 1.5x playback speed, haha love these info-videos, thanks guys

Still thankfull that our NCOs told to use foam ones under the "mickey mouse ears" during live firing 3.5cm twin AA guns. As a gunner, you wear pretty good elecronic ones with com connected to the AA gun, but everyone else around was wearing double ear protection. (loader, range officers, guy watching close buy...) The funniest earprotection i have come across was during conscript time at night shooting: One guy had a pair of luminescent foamies. They glowed green. You can't not laugh when in the dark you see two green dots in head height float around. (It was really dark, but his glowing foamies were clearly visible from quite a distance.)

Love watching and listening to you guys. You always have helpful information and are great people! Thank you for everything you do.

Thankyou so much ive been looking into this and i highly value your input.

Retired after a career in metal fabrication and noisy hobbies, not always using adequate hearing pro, I have high frequency loss in both ears, worse in the left, and tinnitus that is a 10 khz tone that only goes unnoticed when I’m asleep. My favorite verbal response in conversation is ……….“what?” Wear your ear pro.

Guys (and gals), I'm an old Shooter, Singer song writer and actor(and diver lol), hearing was something I took for granted on movie sets, gun ranges and in all the many ways a musician can damage their hearing, until recently when I went temporarily deaf on the right side. I tell ya it was not nice. Three weeks of misery before it corrected itself(I won't go into details, suffice to say salt water did both damage and healing), I also will never forget the day 15 years or so ago, when I left my ear pro out of one ear for just a few shots...which gifted me tinnitus. Protect your ears folks!

I was literally searching for new ear pro and this popped up i appreciate you guys

That is a great picture of you guys! Glad you shared it. Enjoy your videos and content. Thank you

I work in a datacenter where loud sustained noise levels are part of everyday life and have worked in factories where its even louder. What many people do not understand is that hearing damage is PERMANENT. Hearing aids can help, but there is no surgery or drugs that can repair your hearing once has it been damaged, and it can be a gradual process that you may not know is even happening to you. I double up on hearing protection with foam plugs and earmuffs regardless if I'm indoors or outdoors.

@nirfz

2 жыл бұрын

Fully agree. But there's another thing people might underestimate: I was at a concert almost 20 years ago, and i didn't realize beforehand how loud it would be. (the loose fabric of my pants around my calfs was moving substantially by the sound pressure.) For around 3 days afterwards i had constant loud random noise on my ears impacting my hearing a great deal. Luckily it went away after that, but i would not count on that working a second time. And i certainly don't want that experience again. So i'd say one might be lucky once but should not rely on that.

@BriGuyIT

2 жыл бұрын

@@nirfz Absolutely. I never go to concerts without ear pro. They have gotten significantly louder over the years and can be uncomfortable even with earplugs. 90% of the people don't wear them and it must be excruciating.

Holy cow that picture of you two as kiddos! Takes me wayy back! Love it

Good coverage on this topic. Love that photo of you guy's. I'm sure it's something that brings back many memories of the good Ol days.

Loving the content Chad and Eric!

I love the knowledge. In construction I wear them a lot because of the long durations of noise running hammer drills and air chisels.

I combine foam with my over the ear protection, when shooting indoors. I especially do this for my kids. The only thing I hate about electronic hearing protecting in the woods is that I can't tell sound direction.

Between working with drillers and the only decent shooting range within 45 minutes of me being indoors... I combine the plugs with over ear protection. Started to notice hearing loss at 21

Walkers ambient ear pro were the best invention ever. They make my gun sound like a god damn tiny howitzer i love them. Also makes me feel like an operator when I can hear every sound on the range. fairly comfortable for what they are. Can wear em for hours without bitching too much.

Yes guys, this is a great video! Thanks for the info. ☝️👍

I went to see Bonamassa here in Duesseldorf. He definitely is the man. Thanks for the video guys. Greetz from Germany

That thumbnail is priceless! That's the first time I've ever seen yall in your youth haha

One of the loudest noises I've ever heard was a MCLC rocket. I had no clue how loud a 6ft long, 3-4in diameter rocket could be. The kicker is that rockets aren't like gunshots, it's like a gunshot, if the bang lasted 2-3 seconds.

@ghostwriter1415

2 жыл бұрын

A perpetual bang! That's pretty cool! Now that you put it like that, I understand what my old man (ex USMC) was talking about when he said, "stretched percussive-impact". I've also heard the same thing about the same rocket, but I've never experienced it personally. Love/Respect.

@herrgodfrey9563

2 жыл бұрын

@@ghostwriter1415 It was an ethereal experience the first time I heard it. Almost like a deafening roar. What was crazy is I was probably 20 meters from it and instantly regretted not wearing earpro lol. This is a tiny rocket, in the grand scheme of things. I can't imagine how loud a space-bound rocket would be.

@ghostwriter1415

2 жыл бұрын

@@herrgodfrey9563 I was just thinking the exact same thing: I looked at the MCLC on Wikipedia, and It's a slender missile (you already know) designed to destroy landmines! What about the rocket that put Sputnik in outer space? The vibration alone would probably rattle your eardrums so hard that it would rupture them, and you'd likely suffer hearing damage even though you had the proper ear-goggles on. L/R

@Whitebassonly

2 жыл бұрын

I imagine that felt like a lifetime listening to that blast off.

@herrgodfrey9563

2 жыл бұрын

@@Whitebassonly dude, it was absurdly loud. The only thing that came close was an M67 hand grenade and the grenade was quick. Though, the M67 was loud enough that it'd set off every car alarm in a 1 block radius.

15:00 started talking about doubling up but from what I've read it actually isn't double. So if you wear 25dB rated and 25dB it doesn't equal 50 it's actually more like 30 or so. I wish it was added when you put 25 and 33 , bit it's not what I've understood. I hope I'm wrong but I've researched a shit load!

@jamesfranko5098

3 ай бұрын

It's not double but it's better. Try it yourself. Double is significantly better than one.

Linear compensators on all my rifles the last couple years and even my AR10 I’ve had to go out and dispatch a coyote on the fly without ear pro and no ringing ears it’s really amazing how the linear compensator doesn’t make the gun whiter but projects the sound forward of the shooter. I have now the linear comps on all my rifles they have one that you can thread off for a regular compensator but it has a blast can that screws over the comp and man that works so good. Would highly recommend makes your ears not be ringing for hours after a quick unplanned shot. Rule number one never shoot out of a vehicle if at all possible the amount of hearing damage from that is beyond believable haha from my own experience at least.

Very informational…. Great vid guys

Thank you for bringing this very important issue. Being retired law enforcement, decades of rage days, takes it's toll. Ear protection has made great improvements,. So very important! Again Thank You brother! Love your content

Nice mics!

Suppressors are ABSOLUTELY necessary for helping preserve your hearing. Just ask Rob Ski from AKOU. Especially for those nightstand guns. When something goes bump in the night odds are you’re not gonna be thinking about throwing in ear pro. Big shoutouts to OSS Suppressors who are renaming to HUXWRX Safety Co. If more suppressor manufacturers would change the way they market these things, they would be more commonly used. It should be widely recognized for what it is and that’s a tool to protect your hearing and reduce shot signature.

@0Logan05

5 ай бұрын

What..? 🤙🏻

@Karim-ik5ij

4 ай бұрын

Doesn't it take 2 seconds to put them on?

Use eye pro with tiltable lenses. You can adjust the arms to sit ABOVE the ear pro and get a better seal. Works great to help cut noise.

@dimapeace602

2 жыл бұрын

Hello, please send at least some of your weapons, bulletproof vests and helmets to Ukraine, it now needs your weapons against the Russian invaders. Who supports, like. Thank you in advance! Slava Ukraine!

@bassheadlife492

8 ай бұрын

Link?

You guys should look at possibly doing a video on the DoD Study on Blast Pressure Exposure which suggests blast overpressure maybe a potential source of TBI. Thanks for the great content, love the videos.

Great video!!

Watching you guys Grow up on this show is..Crazy!..

Great information I love mine. Think they will block out all the noise coming out of DC????

I bet seeing JB live was awesome, Eric! My dad has seen him play live but I never have. That man can start a FIRE with those strings boy!

I've been using 3M Peltors forever. Now I've just switched to electronic 3M SportTacs. Thanks for the useful info Eric and Chad!

Take into consideration that the decibel scale is logarithmic. To a human ear, sound intensity DOUBLES every 10db.

I’m surprised you didn’t cover custom fit. Active and passive protection. Especially being glasses-wearers, custom fit will solve almost every comfort issue you would come across and it would have consistent NRR compared to generic, where there’s a lot more deviation in a proper fit. There’s also Multi-Memory features in electronic protection that can mitigate background sound like wind. Very useful for hunting/windy environments. Fun video to watch :)

@o2wow

2 жыл бұрын

They did mention gel-pads and they are great for fitment for eyeglass users,

@adammurray215

2 жыл бұрын

I need to find a place to get custom plugs because yeah us people that wear glasses, headphones of any kind are a pain in the ass

@nirfz

2 жыл бұрын

@@adammurray215 Depends on the frame of the glasses. (but then again, nobody chooses the frame according to comfort with "mickey mous ears".)

When I shoot without protection (very rarely) or I shoot with earbuds indoors (also very rarely) it aggravates my Tinnitus. I personally prefer the M&P by Smith and Wesson, they have become my favorite Ear Pro.

I've been in love with my 3M Peltor WS earpro for years! Buy once, cry once...

If you always forget earpro/gloves/glasses , etc. the best thing I did was go to the ole surplus’s store, spend $5 and I now have a gun belt with a small bag, holster and canteen ready to go🥳

I remember going from no ear pro to the red muffs. We were kids now I keep foam plugs in the truck year round. I like the Stanley brand

I need to remember to get some ear pro foamies. I have the ear pro cups, they work great but I always tap the butt of my firearm when shouldering it. It's so annoying, bc the "cups" are hard and make a loud knock consistently.

Peltor does make some com compatible. In the $400 range + ? I have them and love them . Why go cheap or cheaper on your hearing! Electronic all the way. Great video theme . I double up every single time with earplugs and ear pro

the largest round ive shot without ear pro is a 22lr and that was enough. have a pair of Howard Leight Impact and love them

My all time favorite hearing protection. 147g Berry’s Rn pushed by 3.4g of VV N320. Through my Banshee 300 with my Rugged Obsidian 45 in full configuration. Stupid quiet! Like the round impacting the dirt is much louder. I freakin love it. But I have a Socom 300 in purgatory. Once I get it out, I think I’ll start working up a load for 300blk that may rival my current configuration.

It’s kind of funny I bought a set of electronic ear protection years ago when I worked in a steel plant to see if I could get better hearing protection than wearing ear plugs while still being able to hear a conversation with other coworkers and the amount of background noise just caused them to cancel sound constantly and basically made them no better than a set of muffs in that situation so I just used them at the range.

@alterego6935

Жыл бұрын

I have had the same experience with lawn equipment and power tools. The muffs made for impulse suppression don't really work so well with continuous repetitive noise. Noise cancelling muffs might serve you better.

I’ve been using the Silynx pro in-ear stuff for a while. I like ‘em

The silicone pieces you can form are good to double it up with. You can rip them apart and get more than one use out of them.

I love my "Howard Leight" Leightning L3 hearing protection. Not the L1 or L2. I only get the level 3. They work great for shooting. My W Walker's are good for when I am using the tractor or lawn mower. OMG a photo of two BABY DORKS. 20 years and they now know they do not need to carry so much useless crap. I had some CALDWELL hearing protection and hated them. Did not work very well and were very uncomfortable. After over 22 years in the U.S. Army and firing weapons, I have bad tinnitus high frequency loss. Normal for military personnel.

I have tinnitus from music. Cymbals crack really damn loud.... Need a fan on 24/7 or I start getting anxious. Although, the crazy thing is my hearing is pinpoint. I can hear things that amaze people. lol

We need to open up suppressors. Where is the Hearing Protection Act!!!! I love Chad’s sound effects lol

I use the Walker's Quad Connect bluetooth earpro. Most electronic earpro have 2 mics, one in each ear muff. They are somewhat directional. You will hear best what's in front of you. If you are in an indoor range's shooting bay, you likely aren't facing the shooting partner who's standing behind you and off to the side. Drove me nuts trying to hear what my dad and my friends were saying when we went to the range. The Quad Connects have 4 mics, two per ear muff. They pic up sounds far better and are not directional. Best set of earpro that I've found. Now, I just need to find me some good inner earpro for doubling them up. Tried the Axil stuff, garbage dipped in dog sh*t, and of course foamies, but nothing is quite comfortable beneath the larger ear muffs.

just watching this video aggravates my tinnitus

I wish yall could have covered the new axl extreme in ear hearing protection. in getting mixed reviews from good to horrible on them

My question is, is there a pair of ear pro that has two audio adjusters on them. for instance, one could be for spatial awareness audio, and the other could be for team communication. is that a thing?

Good video guys 👍

When I take a new person shooting, I always stress the importance of having eyes and ear protection. I always ask them do you like seeing and hearing things, then you want to wear eyes and ear protection every time you pull the trigger on a gun. I stress this because I had to start wearing hearing aids at the age of 48. And I believe it was from going to the range as a kid with my father to site in his deer rifle. I remember wearing the foam ear plugs at the range but still having a ringing sound in my ears for two or three days afterwards. So, for the love of God please have everyone you know wear hearing and eye protection at all times!

We need a photo album video! come on man thats a gem

The best upgrade to ear pro are gel pads, especially if you were eye pro (which you should).

Great video and everyone needs to be mindful of ear pro

Hey I enjoyed that junior high school photo pretty cool

Who dem little scrapers in that thumbnail? 🍻

Best video ever thanks to that picture.

I can attest that the bullet crack from .223 is horrendous, even outdoors. Still need at least foamies.

Good video, brothers

On the ear and full over the ear covers, are the 2 different ways for earcups. I won't use anything but the electronic full coverage earcup models.

when did they start using ear pro? did they use ear plugs in the black powder days? what did Napoleonic artillery crews use?

Man Ive learned to always wear them simply because I hate the ringing in my ears afterwards. Even with plugs and over ears. Some larger magnum calibers still are hard on the ears

Can you guys do another video with in ear electronic like axil and walker?

Chad must not had a good night sleep. The first 45 seconds of the video with that dead pan straight ahead stare gave me the same vibes when my kids keep me up all night but I still gotta go to work lol.

@pieman12345678987654

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao. You're right.

My go to ear pro is almost always just foam ear plugs. Headsets annoy me for a multitude of reasons, but with my face shape it makes shouldering a rifle or shotgun near impossible without constantly impacting the ear cup. Also, talking or clenching the jaw tends to lift the cups quite a bit. So I tend to just go with ear plugs, unless my friends are shooting 10.5 ARs. There's no easy answer lol

@zdub8438

2 жыл бұрын

I used to do the same. Now my ears ring constantly.

@Sam-iw6te

2 жыл бұрын

@@zdub8438 Would seem like you probably didn't get them in all the way, then. It literally cuts out almost all sound

Have the Walker Razor’s with the gel and walkie-talkie upgrade. My only gripe is it’s not stereo sound, only mono

As a 29 year old who can't sleep with out a fan protect your ears!!! I will not shoot a gun without ear pro suppresor or not I don't want to be 35 with hearing aids....

Thank you guys, been wanting to get new ear pro and didn't know what to buy (just have some random pair from home depot). Gonna buy those Otis. What about eye pro? I just use regular safety glasses, but curious if there's better options out there.

@kellyalger2394

2 жыл бұрын

There are companies that make excellent eyepro, such as Oakley, that are capable of withstanding direct hits from a shotgun. It's overkill in terms of protection at the range but just like hearing, once you lose your sight, it's gone for good. For people with glasses, there are inserts available for your prescription that can be used with them. If in doubt, look for APEL approved, that's what the army uses

What is the name of the in ear plugs that Chad showed that cost 400.00?

I always double my ear protection when shooting rifles unsuppressed and I’ll just wear the over the ears when shooting rifles suppressed. I didn’t know a brake will register 170 db at the ear but I definitely can believe it.

Just a quick comment. I don’t get on KZread as much anymore, but I had to re-subscribe to your channel to even see this.

Biggest con for me with the over the ears is my cheek rest pushes them up or breaks the seal. I can shoot more comfortable with in ear ear pro. I have alot of sets of both tho, all electronic.

Anyone know of any in ear buds with audio and gunshot cutoff that don't cost over $100?? I know a few brands but they are so expensive, I much prefer in ear hearing protection over muffs (cheek weld issues)

What is that martini-esque carbine by your head Eric?

Were you talking about the Caldwell E-max shadow pros??

During ait (13b) I couldn't stand the mil issue earplugs. I bought some small foamy plugs and used them instead. They where so effective I fell asleep behind the truck (chief said go for it) while the paladin and the 105 was firing.

Just recently started wearing ear pro when shooting or running chainsaws after neglecting to for many years. I absolutely regret it. Don’t be like me yall. Wear your ear pro!!!!!

when shooting rifles i double up on hearing protection, plugs and then muffs over top, pistols or other quieter stuff i just use one

Good question do solders have ear protection when shooting in war?

What can I put in my ear muffs for more protection

Literally on my way to the Gun Shop to buy another set of ear pro.

thanks to the french army for my earing loss, crew on a AMX 155mm f3 in the 80's ,army give us two finders for earing protection. but when you hang around 93 lbs rounds your fingers are busy.

What are the price points on all these hearing protection devices

That thumbnail….😂👍🏻🇺🇸

Can you guys do a video on shockwave variance?

In that pic @17:28, Chad was the Punishing Painter and Eric was the Protective Heat for that house painting job they got at the front line.............. What about Axil? Would love to see a comparison of all the In ear hearing pro available, or at least the most common?

Above 80dB and continuous, longer than a few minutes needs protection. If you have to raise your voice to hear, probably getting into the range of hearing protection.