All About Black Powder - Tarheel Pyro Ep 3

All about Black Powder, Making Black Powder, Ball Milling Black Powder
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  • @joeestes8114
    @joeestes81145 жыл бұрын

    Great idea on the drying box! I seen some of your post on fireworking, i just joined. Thanks for sharing

  • @donaldbarnett8045
    @donaldbarnett80454 жыл бұрын

    Good video very thorough information you covered all anyone needs to know about pyrotechnical grade BP . All you left was out was commercial manufactured powders which require comprehension and screening for grain size.

  • @lukelomartire2848
    @lukelomartire28486 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing. I enjoyed watching.

  • @aztecworrior79
    @aztecworrior794 жыл бұрын

    Very good information thank you very much and well explained

  • @maskpsychoses4761
    @maskpsychoses47612 жыл бұрын

    That's a great idea for a food dehydrator.

  • @ngarmy6602
    @ngarmy6602 Жыл бұрын

    And its best to use glas marbels , it won't ignite BP

  • @eminusipi
    @eminusipi4 жыл бұрын

    What is the difference between potassium nitrate and sodium nitrate(Chile saltpeter) black powder? Is one more energetic than the other? I think sodium compounds take on water from the air?

  • @socalfrijolito
    @socalfrijolito5 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video. Thanks for the knowledge.

  • @rick5078
    @rick50782 жыл бұрын

    if you're very picky about the milling media, as in you don't want lead to be incorporated into your mixes and don't want any risk of sparks, go with solid brass balls instead, the only other spark free metal besides lead.

  • @jamesluck2969

    @jamesluck2969

    2 жыл бұрын

    I've also seen people use sold copper rollers, and also large aluminum brass rollers for 3kg mills

  • @dk-pyro-bang6288
    @dk-pyro-bang6288 Жыл бұрын

    Very god video thanks 👍😊

  • @ngarmy6602
    @ngarmy6602 Жыл бұрын

    but again it depends how fine is powder that you put in if its fine you don't need much time in ball mill ,but if its not fine like KNO3 is granulated not powder and charcoal is not were fine you need much more time in ball mill , I put my black powder in for four hours and it didn't do much ,because me ingridiens aren't fine ,so I left it for 8-10 hours and when powder is were fine its start to stick to wals of container and then can't bi grinded any more ,that is the finest you can go ❤️💪👍 love wideos

  • @MinhNguyen-zn3gf
    @MinhNguyen-zn3gf4 жыл бұрын

    Could you share a recipe for super fine black powder to lift rocket shells into the sky?

  • @pyropenguino
    @pyropenguino3 ай бұрын

    Been wondering how would lift fare inside of a shell to ignite the stars if just a loose break. Say 50-60 grams of both stars and the lift. A good ratio to not just absolutley destroy the stars. Its A mix but mostly 2fa i have from a ton of wasted shells that got crushed and leaked.

  • @TarheelPyroChannel

    @TarheelPyroChannel

    3 ай бұрын

    Smaller shells use mainly BP for the burst. As the shells get larger I use coated rice hulls for the break. Also a touch of a hot prime to help it ignite.

  • @antruongxuan500
    @antruongxuan5004 жыл бұрын

    Super fine black explosives I don't know what to do to make a particle

  • @antruongxuan500
    @antruongxuan5004 жыл бұрын

    Could you please tell me the formula Black powder Liftcharge

  • @atvheads
    @atvheads5 жыл бұрын

    Nice. Have you tried pressing the bp to hard pucks, and then granulate it? It is supposed to make the powder more dense. Wet black powder with a high pressure jack.

  • @accipiternisus649

    @accipiternisus649

    5 жыл бұрын

    I was work in firework industry at same process you describe.With brass piston and 250t press.After making pucks then you grind pucks as sift it to ff grades

  • @atvheads

    @atvheads

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@accipiternisus649 exactley, it makes sense. Especially for weapons.

  • @accipiternisus649

    @accipiternisus649

    5 жыл бұрын

    This is my bp kzread.info/dash/bejne/mJl_2cukiMTHgJc.html

  • @rickjwilliams
    @rickjwilliams4 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Wish your camera was better.

  • @adamkusicki684
    @adamkusicki6844 жыл бұрын

    What size grinding media would you recommend? I was thinking about ordering 15mm ceramic ball grinding media. Just not sure if the size matters.

  • @Tarheel_Pyro

    @Tarheel_Pyro

    4 жыл бұрын

    15mm is a good size.

  • @hoabui5948
    @hoabui59485 жыл бұрын

    Bột màu đen đó dùng để đẩy quả pháo hoa phải không bạn

  • @matthewsequoyah2665
    @matthewsequoyah26654 жыл бұрын

    Is there any problem with using giant glass marbles (boulders) as the grinding media inside the tumbler?

  • @Tarheel_Pyro

    @Tarheel_Pyro

    4 жыл бұрын

    I've never heard of using glass marbles for this. If you try it let me know how it does.

  • @rickjwilliams

    @rickjwilliams

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Tarheel_Pyro There has been rumor that the marble can break down on the edges after awhile and possible create sparks. But I have never heard of anyone ball mill blowing up from it. But, don't go the five and dime way. Go spend your money of some good medium and keep yourself safe.

  • @vladimirdukic7198
    @vladimirdukic71984 жыл бұрын

    Has anyone try this with cap and ball revolvers?

  • @myearby53
    @myearby533 жыл бұрын

    New to making BP. Just wondering where you can buy screen to make FFg and FFFg powder? Thanking you in advance.

  • @Tarheel_Pyro

    @Tarheel_Pyro

    3 жыл бұрын

    I buy just the screen from www.mcmaster.com and make them out of 1x4 wood, and small trim pieces on top edges. You can buy already made screens from skylighter.com

  • @gillessylvestre9443
    @gillessylvestre94434 жыл бұрын

    Tarheel, in your opinion, what is the best way to test the quality of my BP? Is there a device to measure the power of my BP? Thanks

  • @Tarheel_Pyro

    @Tarheel_Pyro

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have made dummy shells with just sand in them and shot those for testing. Just make sure you have room and a spotter because it’s coming back down. Ned Gorski from fireworking.com launches baseballs and figures the heights.

  • @jaycousland9835
    @jaycousland98355 жыл бұрын

    Excellent meat and potatoes video.Do you have a preferred type of charcoal.I have heard some pyros prefer hardwood.Is there any substance to that claim? Thanks.

  • @TarheelPyroChannel

    @TarheelPyroChannel

    5 жыл бұрын

    eastern red cedar and paulownia mixed is suppose to be the best for black powder. I'm really not a purist when it comes to the type as long as it's airfloat.

  • @huxmetalworks7371
    @huxmetalworks73714 жыл бұрын

    Great job love your channel did you make your own screens if so can you give me an idea on how to make them thanks for sharing

  • @TarheelPyroChannel

    @TarheelPyroChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes. I bought the 12” square screens from McMaster Carr and used 1x4 boards for the box. I used small flat molding to sandwich the wire to the box. Used panel nails to attach the molding.

  • @huxmetalworks7371

    @huxmetalworks7371

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing your thoughts i look forward to seeing more thanks again

  • @kennyeast2539
    @kennyeast25396 жыл бұрын

    I want to know how they get that nice shiny finish on their bp... I've made many different formulas but they never have that black pebble look. Nice video, very through and informative.

  • @TarheelPyroChannel

    @TarheelPyroChannel

    6 жыл бұрын

    No kidding! I wondered about that myself. The first time I made BP I didn't know the differences in charcoal and used an 80 grain instead of airfloat. Not even enough power for lifting! Took me awhile to figure that one out.

  • @kennyeast2539

    @kennyeast2539

    6 жыл бұрын

    I've even tried a formula using nc lacquer as a binder/solvent... It was closer but still not shiny like theirs... My first batch of bp I made, I used charcoal from the store, substituted sugar for a modifier instead of sulfur. It was brick charcoal, so I had to wash the clay and lime out of it before milling it. Worked okay but not as good as Willow, poplar, or hemp charcoal.

  • @madmarkthepyro5247

    @madmarkthepyro5247

    5 жыл бұрын

    Graphite powder.

  • @HomeGrownPyro1

    @HomeGrownPyro1

    5 жыл бұрын

    The shiny coating on commercial bp is graphite.

  • @donaldbarnett8045

    @donaldbarnett8045

    5 жыл бұрын

    Kenny that shiny Black powder is commercial sporting powder and it is tumbled to polish it sometimes with graphite to make it poure smoothly and also to make it somewhat moisture proof. There is a big difference between the manufacture of sporting powder and poyro powder for fireworks and this video did not cover that.

  • @hobbyhobby6236
    @hobbyhobby623610 ай бұрын

    Is used dextrin ?

  • @donaldbarnett8045
    @donaldbarnett80455 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting video although your terminology for black powder grain size and so on is a little strange and differs from traditional terminology. Traditionally anything that passes the FFFFg screen is called dust or meal powder and is used for coating stars. and you did not explain that sporting powders such as GOEX is pressed into cakes at high pressures and then grained and screen for size.

  • @phutruong.vn.
    @phutruong.vn.3 жыл бұрын

    Cho tôi hỏi đây là thuốc phóng phải không

  • @yankeedoodledandeefirecrac7518
    @yankeedoodledandeefirecrac75183 жыл бұрын

    MILL IT WET!!!! it wont "BLOW UP!!"

  • @countryboompyro6746
    @countryboompyro67466 жыл бұрын

    I have quite a bit of potassium perchlorate, can i use that instead of potassium nitrate in black powder? Or stick to the potassium nitrate? Also another question, on your star making video i was looking at the formula and it says to use potassium chlorate, would it make a difference if i used potassium PERchlorate? Like i said i have a bit of it and got that based off of what other people have told me in means of it being safer than chlorate. Just wondering if it will make a difference in a star formula before i make it. Thanks in advance. Love the videos by the way, they are very helpful. I always try to research and learn as much as i can before i attempt anything. So far for compounds i have done quite a bit of flash powder, made some very good and strong gun cotton and now im starting to learn black powder and color formulas. Thanks again :)

  • @afbennett3038

    @afbennett3038

    5 жыл бұрын

    Country Boom always use potassium nitrate, it won't work with perchlorate and it's also cheaper. And yes perchlorate can be used instead of chlorate in stars and is safer than chlorate but still take care.

  • @pyroxtremevuurwerkpro4537

    @pyroxtremevuurwerkpro4537

    5 жыл бұрын

    Awesome! From wich country you are? Here I can't find any Perchlorate.... And I really want to use it for new products.

  • @countryboompyro6746

    @countryboompyro6746

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@pyroxtremevuurwerkpro4537 im from the united states. Where are you from? I can get the perchlorate in any quantity and reasonably priced too. Isially amywhere from 5 to 10 US dollars per pound of fine, milled, high purity perchlorate.

  • @pyroxtremevuurwerkpro4537

    @pyroxtremevuurwerkpro4537

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@countryboompyro6746 Awesome! Well I am from The Netherlands and here it's quite hard to get... But, If I want KNO3 I can buy as much I want... Last time I bought 150 KG of Potasium Nitrate for smoke projects

  • @countryboompyro6746

    @countryboompyro6746

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@pyroxtremevuurwerkpro4537 awesome. I love making smoke stuff. Well if you want amy perchlorate let me know and maybe we can figure something out. Would probablly be expensive for me to ship it to you tho. If you look on youtube there are ways of making it from bleach by using electolysis.

  • @dylanhealy4473
    @dylanhealy44734 жыл бұрын

    Do I need any type of license to buy the chemicals to make black powder or buy commercial black powder? Thanks

  • @TarheelPyroChannel

    @TarheelPyroChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    You can buy these chemicals with no license. You can buy some BP for use in guns without a license.

  • @dylanhealy4473

    @dylanhealy4473

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ok cuz I've been watching a lot of vids & would love to try some of the simple builds I'm seeing. Thinking of getting the turbo pyro kit from skylighter to try some stuff out. I saw ur vid on supplies & tools used is there anything else u recommend getting to help me out. I don't want to have to throw a ton of money out if I don't have to especially being a total novice. There might be things I'm seeing used that I simply just don't need for now. Thanks for getting back to me I appreciate the help.

  • @southernexposure123
    @southernexposure1235 жыл бұрын

    I'm making B P for a muzzle loading pistol. My finely powdered sulphur is only 90% purity. How will that affect my end result? Should I add 10% more sulphur to the recipe? Should I try to purify the sulphur? If so, how? Thank you.

  • @Subway1427

    @Subway1427

    5 жыл бұрын

    Have you tried purifying your sulphur? A friend of mine is in the process of purifying his. The store bought garden sulphur he bought is 92% or 94% pure, it is slightly off color, not the vibrant yellow it should be. It's really quite a simple process. Since sulphur is insoluble in water, you can purify it with simple water, to eliminate any other contaminants from entering your product, you can use distilled water, but a few extra tap water minerals won't effect anything. The way my friend does it is in a few steps. 1st. Put sulphur into a container which will allow you to add about a litre of water, with enough room left over to shake the contents. 2nd. Add hot water, hotter the better, but not too hot where it can burn yourself, or damage the container. Shake contents fairly vigorously, making sure that the water is thoroughly mixing with all of the sulphur. Shake for a few minutes and allow the contents to stand for 10 to 15 minutes. After contents have stood, all of the sulphur will resettle to the bottom of the container, slowly pour off the water being careful not to lose product in the process. 3rd. Repeat. You can repeat this as many times as you like. 4 or 5 times is about how many my friend does it. 4th. This time repeat the same process with cold water. As some contaminants will be soluble in hot water, others may be soluble in cold. 5th. After you have completed all the steps, and you have been careful not to lose product. Slowly cut the top portion of the container off. If you are using a 2 litre pop bottle or juice bottle. Drain off any remaining water, then pour contents into an aluminum foil lined baking tray or similar. Spread contents out and allow to dry for a couple of days. Finally, you will notice that your dark yellow, gross looking sulphur, is now a vibrant, bright and beautiful yellow. And damn near 100% pure. I wouldn't say it's exactly 100%. But it is pretty darn close. Anyway, that's the only, and simplest way I know how to purify your sulphur. Play safe.

  • @Subway1427

    @Subway1427

    5 жыл бұрын

    I would definitely purify if you are planning on using it in your muzzle loader. Extra unknown contaminants might not be too good for your barrel.

  • @southernexposure123

    @southernexposure123

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Subway1427 Thank you. I do plan shooting it. First thing I'll do is a burn speed test.

  • @southernexposure123

    @southernexposure123

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Subway1427 Thanks very much for the information. After trying in vain to find sulfur in pellet form I bought it finely powdered. I can get 100% pure sulfur, but only in 50# bags. I didn't realize the procedure for purifying the fine powder was basically the same as for pelletized, so your information is very helpful. I'll do the purifying procedure as you suggest. I haven't yet corned any BP, but I'll make it that way. I'll do the first corning using door / window screen. I want to end up with FFFg or FFg. I can shoot both. I have rifle and revolver. All I've done so far is to make some charcoal using chunks of yellow pine lumber. I'll make small batches of B.P using various local woods to watch the burn test, then make bigger batches with the wood that works best for gunpowder. Thanks again for sharing the information.

  • @Ntwadumela1

    @Ntwadumela1

    4 жыл бұрын

    Don't bother puryfing it. It is the charcoal that makes the difference. www.creagan.net/fireworks/blackpowder2.html#AGC pyrobin.com/files/Black%20Powder2.pdf

  • @tmacoo4
    @tmacoo4 Жыл бұрын

    Where did you find your wire mesh?

  • @TarheelPyroChannel

    @TarheelPyroChannel

    Жыл бұрын

    McMaster Carr has lots of options.

  • @Serega-ij5ol
    @Serega-ij5ol4 жыл бұрын

    where can I order such a ball mill, discard the link?

  • @Tarheel_Pyro

    @Tarheel_Pyro

    4 жыл бұрын

    www.harborfreight.com/dual-drum-rotary-rock-tumbler-67632.html?_br_psugg_q=rock+tumbler

  • @lcbill6238
    @lcbill62385 жыл бұрын

    good , video …. I 've ready pre-mixed my ingredients in a jar, can I still put them in a ball???? thanks

  • @Tarheel_Pyro

    @Tarheel_Pyro

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes, that shouldn’t be a problem. Actually you’ll have a head start.

  • @houseoffire72
    @houseoffire725 жыл бұрын

    I mill mine from an hour to a max of three. I use pine charcoal. Comes out a really dark charcoal color but never black. Burns damn quick.

  • @sempertard

    @sempertard

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think the addition of a small amount of graphite gives it that totally black and shiny look. The graphite supposedly keeps it from clumping and provides a small amount of moisture resistance. At least that's what I've read. I'm trying to figure out exactly how it's done so it doesn't slow the burn rate.

  • @houseoffire72

    @houseoffire72

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sempertard I would think if it were tumbled in a ball mill without media that it would work...

  • @sempertard

    @sempertard

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@houseoffire72 I like that idea. That would work.

  • @houseoffire72

    @houseoffire72

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sempertard I really think it would. I would also think a little would go a very long ways since its tumbling...

  • @rdlc3572
    @rdlc3572 Жыл бұрын

    How is commercial bp so solid and shiny how do they do that

  • @TarheelPyroChannel

    @TarheelPyroChannel

    11 ай бұрын

    Good question. Never got an answer on that myself.

  • @donaldbarnett655
    @donaldbarnett6555 жыл бұрын

    I have never found a good reason to use alcohol in black powder water works just as well and has for hundreds of years.

  • @jasoncook5307

    @jasoncook5307

    4 жыл бұрын

    it acts in 2 parts, fast drying to reduce kno3 crystallization and a wetting agent

  • @antruongxuan500
    @antruongxuan5004 жыл бұрын

    I made an ultra-fine black powder that could not lift the shell

  • @TarheelPyroChannel

    @TarheelPyroChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    If you make your powder using the 75 15 10 composition formula and granulate it, it should lift shells no problem. If you’re not using air float charcoal and mill your comp it will not be powerful enough. The first time I made BP I used the wrong charcoal and had that same issue.

  • @antruongxuan500

    @antruongxuan500

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, thank you

  • @liberalove8993
    @liberalove89932 жыл бұрын

    Hi, I would like to use a 3 lb ball mill. Could you tell me the percentages of potassium nitrate, sulfur and carchoal that go inside? What diameter of the grinding balls, and how many balls should I put inside the ball mill? Thanks in advance.

  • @souvikchakraborty3791
    @souvikchakraborty37914 жыл бұрын

    Sir, which mesh size may be considered as airfloat?

  • @rickjwilliams

    @rickjwilliams

    4 жыл бұрын

    Anything over 100 mesh is considered airfloat. Usually when you purchase Charcoal that says to Airfloat it will at least 100 mesh or better in the lot.

  • @AdaKurFireworks
    @AdaKurFireworks3 жыл бұрын

    So no dextrin to granulate

  • @jamesluck2969

    @jamesluck2969

    2 жыл бұрын

    There are lots of binders that people use, and some have luck not using any at all. I'm working on testing the use of phenolic resin as a binder, such as red gum is sometimes used. Both make harder granules but are expensive to use. Dextrin works just fine, rice starch is also sometimes used. Just depends what's at hand and what works for you. As for my exparementing in phenolic as a binder, I happened to buy a good quantity for cheap, I aready use it in my firework stars, and I can use acetone to bind it. Drying time is hours, and I dont worry about re-crystallization of the kno3. Through the small tests I've conducted my normal dextrin bound milled powder performs similarly to my unmilled phenolic bound.

  • @TruongLe-qz1gp
    @TruongLe-qz1gp Жыл бұрын

    Xin ct thuốc phóng

  • @hoangvu43
    @hoangvu432 жыл бұрын

    Kclo3 = G ?? C = G ??

  • @6977warrior1
    @6977warrior15 жыл бұрын

    I tried making this stuff like you suggested. But I didn't know you weren't supposed to use an electric heater to dry it or something just went wrong due to your faulty instructions. Thank God the explosion was fairly small and contained to just my bedroom and living room. After the ambulance arrived, an attorney came that had followed them and wanted your full name and address. The emergency room doctors say I lost the full use of my left hand and left eye and ear. And after all the blood transfusions and operations, the psychiatrist wouldn't stop asking me where I got this misleading info to do such a stupid thing. So please provide your full name and address for my attorney and shrink.

  • @pyrofox1461

    @pyrofox1461

    5 жыл бұрын

    you used a hair dryer when working with BP? Are u insane, before you try something you better read more about it.

  • @6977warrior1

    @6977warrior1

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@pyrofox1461 - Who used a hair dryer? Where exactly did you read that? Whoosh, right over your head, LOL.

  • @pyrofox1461

    @pyrofox1461

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@6977warrior1 so what electronic thing did you use?

  • @6977warrior1

    @6977warrior1

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@pyrofox1461 -It says it right in my original comment - Did you even read it? It was meant to be funny. The story was fake and funny. Whoosh, right over your head, LOL.

  • @pyrofox1461

    @pyrofox1461

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@6977warrior1 oh my God sorry man I feel so bad now

  • @Dimabud826
    @Dimabud8262 жыл бұрын

    Здравствуйте, друзья пиротехники. Я знаю что вам нравятся разные испытания. Если вам нравятся испытания, то вам будет интересно на моём канале. Жду всех)))

  • @Tarheel_Pyro
    @Tarheel_Pyro4 жыл бұрын

    Airfloat is a designation for charcoal granularity. It's achieved by ball milling, and to my knowledge it is not screened. It is talcum powder fine.

  • @ngarmy6602

    @ngarmy6602

    Жыл бұрын

    It is actuali screening but you need to have drop 40 cm in can so its AIR mixed