Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio vs BMW M3 | Who makes the better performance car?

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Alfa Romeo has recently updated its brilliant Giulia Quadrifoglio super saloon, but can it still compete with the likes of the BMW M3? In this twin-test review, CAR magazine’s James Dennison compares both cars in an on-road head-to-head.
Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
1:42 - Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio
8:58 - BMW M3
14:18 - Verdict
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  • @CARmagazineTV
    @CARmagazineTV21 күн бұрын

    Which gets your vote? Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio or BMW M3?

  • @emirkaracaoglu

    @emirkaracaoglu

    21 күн бұрын

    Alfa 🍀

  • @user-my4xu4gf1z

    @user-my4xu4gf1z

    21 күн бұрын

    How are u guys a car channel and ur going to use bmws on paper numbers 😂 their 0-60 and HP are severely understated

  • @chileshemubanga3594

    @chileshemubanga3594

    21 күн бұрын

    Honestly these 2 are my fav(BMW 3 first & Alfa Romeo Giulia qv second) so i'l take em both😂😅

  • @alexluke84

    @alexluke84

    21 күн бұрын

    Well BMW gives you more options, for any taste you can find something, there is M3 and M3 Competition and M3 CS...there is AWD or RWD, manual or auto, Touring or Coupe or Cabrio versions...you can have even M performance so 340i which is very very good car...not to mention ALPINA versions...also BMW is good at strong diesels, 340d and 330d...all aboce is absent at Alfa, finally 325d/330i and 320d the Apfa has an answer...with Veloce models...that is why they do not sell amazingly, not enough offer...and then they are missing what BMW has with interior options in so many different upholster and colors and seat options...not to even mention Individual program. But yeah Alfa looks amazing outside, less inside...I like Alfa...but this time BMW is better (like always in the past when Alfas was underpowered amd fwd mostly) I am so sad that Giulia is finished with production this summer...and successor will be EV 👎

  • @radglitch7233

    @radglitch7233

    21 күн бұрын

    M3 without a doubt. My American heart yearns for the forbidden M3 Touring

  • @InvisbalyNoticeable
    @InvisbalyNoticeable17 күн бұрын

    I hate giant screens in cars, the Alfa interior is so perfect for me, just a nice little screen that flows wonderfully into the dash, not some giant tablet monstrosity slapped on like an afterthought

  • @powerhp

    @powerhp

    9 күн бұрын

    I agree 100%. And you don't know how much it cost Alfa to implement such a customized screen compared to a common tablet slammed on the dashboard. I remember an interview with one of the leaders of the development team talking about this.

  • @urosvukov4948
    @urosvukov494820 күн бұрын

    The Alfa is 7 years older! No one seems to let that sink in. It’s monumental given its age, still.

  • @bc8580

    @bc8580

    20 күн бұрын

    Agreed.

  • @Greatadventure124

    @Greatadventure124

    19 күн бұрын

    Agreed..Alfa Q🍀 is outdated. Remember when M3 alone on the top for years and along came Alfa and given M3 a run for the money which no one believed possible. They done a great job.

  • @brandonchism6960

    @brandonchism6960

    18 күн бұрын

    7? It debuted in 2015. The G80 released at the end of 2020.

  • @Top_g80comp

    @Top_g80comp

    17 күн бұрын

    @@Greatadventure124 and yet bmw m3/4 sold more cars the Giulia and Stelvio QV combined together ☝️ I wonder why 😄😄😄

  • @TheOverpowered1

    @TheOverpowered1

    17 күн бұрын

    @@Top_g80comp lol

  • @JamieCarter-ln1bk
    @JamieCarter-ln1bk20 күн бұрын

    I've had the Giulia for 5 years. Competition red. Looks, sounds and drives great. Stands out from the crowd.

  • @jez987s

    @jez987s

    20 күн бұрын

    On my second Guilia - Veloce to QV. Will never sell the QV. It’s a keeper.

  • @Scheltokeeper

    @Scheltokeeper

    20 күн бұрын

    @@jez987s Even the 280 hp Veloce's are a pleasure to drive! I'm a owner of a 2022 Veloce Q4 and i really love the car.

  • @tumolucky17
    @tumolucky1720 күн бұрын

    I own a 2017 gulia quad, and I never want to sell it. The sound and the way it drives is just phenomenal

  • @JoshuaRex-ql4nc

    @JoshuaRex-ql4nc

    20 күн бұрын

    Me too

  • @jerehada

    @jerehada

    18 күн бұрын

    Me to Stelvio QF other than maybe for Giulia.

  • @JaredDutton-xw4gt

    @JaredDutton-xw4gt

    17 күн бұрын

    How’s the motor? Heard for a while that motors not very great. Obviously there’s haters and all that but you own one. How is it?

  • @tumolucky17

    @tumolucky17

    16 күн бұрын

    Yeah it’s great, I had a few faults with the fuel pump and fuel line, but all work was carried out with the warranty . So so far so good

  • @Mustafa-tl9ey

    @Mustafa-tl9ey

    6 күн бұрын

    Is the QV reliable ? I heard that the QV is a little problematic, how is your experience so far ?

  • @codean909
    @codean90921 күн бұрын

    I love the fact that both of these cars exist and you can pick whichever car speaks to you more.

  • @mathew3293

    @mathew3293

    21 күн бұрын

    best comment

  • @larams61

    @larams61

    17 күн бұрын

    Both cars are epic but I prefer Alfa.

  • @FefyGT

    @FefyGT

    14 күн бұрын

    I just hate the fact that I can't afford any of them.

  • @bpowick
    @bpowick19 күн бұрын

    I honestly think the Giulia is one of the best looking modern four door sedans ever made.

  • @Ronnet

    @Ronnet

    15 күн бұрын

    Definitely. After all these years it still puts a smile on my face when I walk to it. And I always have to look back at it after stepping out. There really is nothing out there that compares to it. Which is why it's the car I've owned the longest. The craziest part is that it's also the most reliable car I've ever owned!

  • @MattBHerz7
    @MattBHerz720 күн бұрын

    Im a QV owner and admit that the M3 is probably a better car. That said, I still prefer the Italian. I like that it's simpler. All the settings on the bmw and the giant screen would overwhelm me. The Alfa has more soul. Also, an Xdrive M3 will end up costing much more than the QV. Don't get me wrong, love the M3.

  • @jad4ca

    @jad4ca

    19 күн бұрын

    I own an xDrive M3 and it is awesome. But I likewise love and respect the QV and really want to drive one.

  • @ALE_POS

    @ALE_POS

    17 күн бұрын

    You said correct: soul.

  • @bpp325

    @bpp325

    11 күн бұрын

    what does 'better car' mean?

  • @mathewleadbitter3975
    @mathewleadbitter397517 күн бұрын

    Owned my Alfa quad a year now and absolutely love it. I looked at buying an m3/m4 but the Alfa had me on looks alone let alone how it drives. The bmw was way too common also and the amount of lovely comments I get from strangers on my Alfa just makes the car even nicer.

  • @ramonmedina1974
    @ramonmedina197419 күн бұрын

    If the much older Alfa makes BMW sweat so much, the Alfa must be a damn good car!

  • @giulimarconi1715

    @giulimarconi1715

    15 күн бұрын

    Alfas have been making the GERMANS sweat for over 100 years... that is WHY VW GROUP has tried to buy them 3+ times!

  • @Lukas-eh4cf

    @Lukas-eh4cf

    9 күн бұрын

    @@giulimarconi1715 Sweating when their Alfa has broken down again. (I still love them)

  • @johnkisch240

    @johnkisch240

    9 күн бұрын

    ​@@Lukas-eh4cfWell i drove 156 2.0 ts and it had no issues. In two years 120 000 km. I totaled it in the end. 😢. My Best and most beautiful car. Now i drvenih Audi A3 2.0 benzin. Its good but no Alfa Romeo.

  • @schnuffelpuff3923

    @schnuffelpuff3923

    6 күн бұрын

    @@johnkisch240 I have a 2002 156 with the 1.8TS and the full Momo leather facelift interior. It now has about 230.000km, gets pushed hard and never let me down. I absolutely love this car!

  • @fatgoose8983
    @fatgoose898318 күн бұрын

    I've owned the QV for 4 years and I daily drive it. Rosso Competizione with Sparco carbon seats. Beautiful, unique, sexy.. The feel, the sound. I'll be ok..

  • @tommike8830
    @tommike883017 күн бұрын

    Giulia QV all day everyday . No need to have fake sounds from speakers 😂

  • @AP-cc1uw
    @AP-cc1uw20 күн бұрын

    People forget what sport sedans were originally about. They weren’t track weapons, they were liveable cars with a ton of performance. You’re not supposed to notice the difference because if you’re going fast enough that you need an M3s capabilities you’re losing your license. The reviewer says the M3 is more rewarding at 10/10ths. But this is a road review, I seriously doubt he got the car anywhere close to its limits. Taking delivery of a 2024 QV in a few weeks. Test drove the M3. I believe it when people say it would be faster than the Giulia on a track, although obviously I didn’t get to explore it at 10/10ths. But the big question is, how often are you able to track these cars? Every weekend? Maybe go M3. A few times a year or less? The Giulia is my pick. It’s a much more well rounded car, the ride isn’t punishing when in A or N mode. Even D is liveable. You’ve always got Race mode if you want a ton of fun. But you can’t really use it responsibly on public roads on a regular basis. And while the M3 is a better track car you also can’t use its capabilities on a regular basis. Tom Baker at Chasing Cars has a good comparison between the M3 and the Giulia and I think he gets it right. His take is also consistent with his view on the M550i as the actual modern successor to the M5. A liveable yet very fast and sporty sedan. You WANT a bit of roll in corners, this helps you feel the sensation of speed. If you’re flat you need to go ever faster to feel anything. That’s not what sport sedans should be about.

  • @thomasferrarojr.9772

    @thomasferrarojr.9772

    20 күн бұрын

    This. And it's 99% as good on track, without punishing your kidneys. MUCH better, advanced suspension design. BMW just makes their cars handle better by putting stiffer springs in.

  • @TsLeng

    @TsLeng

    20 күн бұрын

    Correct take. Track performance is irrelevant 100% actually. Because you can have fun at the track with pretty much anything. And a serious track day nut should buy something else rather than an M3 or Giulia

  • @CC6Z06

    @CC6Z06

    18 күн бұрын

    Ho avuto una qv 2022. Ho visto che kw produce un assetto che mantiene tutte le regolazioni DNA. Se una persona ha esigenza di dare un assetto più sportivo ma vivibile alla qv, kW produce l opzione.

  • @CC6Z06

    @CC6Z06

    18 күн бұрын

    ​@@thomasferrarojr.9772la BMW ha un assetto più rigido ed improntato alla prestazione MA utilizza anche gomme con maggiore impronta a terra ...di diametro esterno più grande e sull anteriore anche più larghe. La BMW ha migliore controllo di trazione, ma per godere di queste auto serve metterli off e imparare a guidare ....non andare forte grazie ai controlli elettronici .

  • @CC6Z06

    @CC6Z06

    18 күн бұрын

    Bmw.....provate a mettere gomme più piccole e strette come la qv,...poi vediamo cosa succede .....e viceversa gomme maggiorate sull alfa, specie davanti.

  • @twinv6_quadrifoglio
    @twinv6_quadrifoglio19 күн бұрын

    QV owner here. Hands down, one of the best cars I’ve ever owned. Sure the interior is a bit dated. However, less is more. The driving experience of the QV, is on a whole different level.

  • @hhh7929

    @hhh7929

    18 күн бұрын

    Vieillot ou classique intemporel ?

  • @faisalfaruque2849

    @faisalfaruque2849

    2 күн бұрын

    Deffo - just make sure you have the radar blocker as they are easily stolen with that flaw!

  • @Rok3y
    @Rok3y16 күн бұрын

    The Alfa Romeo Giulia is, at least to me, the most beautiful car I have ever seen

  • @2112Tix

    @2112Tix

    13 күн бұрын

    Beauty and the beast. You choose.

  • @sbchamps1

    @sbchamps1

    9 күн бұрын

    Agrred

  • @schnuffelpuff3923

    @schnuffelpuff3923

    6 күн бұрын

    @@2112Tix The Giulia is both. 😉

  • @SplawnQROD
    @SplawnQROD17 күн бұрын

    I came out of an f90 m5 to my QV and the QV was hands down the better car to drive. The m5 had a better interior and more tech and more space but if I were to buy one tomorrow it would be the alfa all day and I also had an f82 m4 comp immediately before the m5 which felt heavy and inert next to the QV

  • @sveeny
    @sveeny21 күн бұрын

    The M3’s ability to switch between AWD and RWD makes for a killer daily + fun car. Speaking as someone who lives in the alps and has snowy mountains during winter.

  • @xwarped83

    @xwarped83

    21 күн бұрын

    Sounds like the perfect car for you.

  • @Bruno-xb2mt

    @Bruno-xb2mt

    20 күн бұрын

    Just get winter tires lol

  • @sveeny

    @sveeny

    20 күн бұрын

    ​@@Bruno-xb2mt It's not that simple. I did daily an M2 for 2 years and it's a pretty good winter car with the right tires. But there's a big difference between a voluntary sunday snow blast and having to commute at 6 AM together with many others going up and down slopes hoping you don't have to take off from a full stop on an incline (ever tried that in an M2 on snow?). It's not impossible, but it's quite stressful. I appreciate my GR Yaris permanent all wheel drive that I have now that I live in a mountainous region.

  • @MrsCap2

    @MrsCap2

    19 күн бұрын

    I m in same situation in Alps but I do feel like going for Giulia anyway. Rear will drive will do it as well in Alps mainly because the road are mainly clean and I gave second car or adding stud tyre on it ? 😇

  • @sveeny

    @sveeny

    19 күн бұрын

    @@MrsCap2 I have a RWD second car already so an AWD daily is perfect 😃

  • @studiocalder818
    @studiocalder81816 күн бұрын

    Just looking at it, the Giulia puts me in a good mood, it smells like a real car made for the pleasure of those who drive it, with a functional determination, not the result of fashion.

  • @roytrevisan3491

    @roytrevisan3491

    12 күн бұрын

    wow well said.

  • @rmr5184
    @rmr518420 күн бұрын

    I absolutely love the M3 touring and as a M340i touring driver the logic choice would be the M3 but that Giulia, ohhh boy! I might prefer the Giulia. I had the chance to drive one for a few hundred chilometers and what a car it is! Just glorious!

  • @jjchockey

    @jjchockey

    17 күн бұрын

    Ya anyone who says the Giulia is garbage or just an FCA parts bin car has never driven one. Easily one of if not the best sports sedan steering/chassis ever made. Makes most BMW’s feel numb and lethargic by comparison.

  • @caymanblack9567
    @caymanblack956720 күн бұрын

    I couldnt care how good the M3 is the Giulia is the best looking saloon by far and the QV is the king.

  • @zajebancija11
    @zajebancija1117 күн бұрын

    What I criticise on this BMW and also Mercedes and others, they’re so expensive and put basically only two tablets as screens in front of the driver with zero design. Alfa has nicely integrated the screen into the dashboard to maintain the old school sportive feeling. At least also Porsche does that. Also the front looks ugly with these huge “kidneys”. But of course the BMW is overall also a dream car. Of course Alfa’s infotainment system is outdated as it’s old. To me Alfa will always have a soul and will not just be car or a thing. 🍀

  • @SiddharthaKS1983
    @SiddharthaKS198314 күн бұрын

    Being a hardcore Mechanical lover, I would go for Alfa Romeo. It feels so intuitive and connected for a spirited drive.

  • @jongib6096
    @jongib609617 күн бұрын

    passion, style, sound = Alfa all dayyy

  • @marcelhandsome6042
    @marcelhandsome604219 күн бұрын

    Considering how much older the Alfa is in comparison yet still managing to compete with the BMW in 2024 is a testament to the brilliance of Alfa engineers (skunkworks) under Fiat Chairman Sergio Marchionne all those years ago. However, the new M3 is fresher and it shows Alfa under the Stellantis group has the capability and resources to come up with an epic best-in-class successor and if so Chairman Tavares can use Ferrari engineers if he so chooses!

  • @pierangelofae7621

    @pierangelofae7621

    16 күн бұрын

    Ferrari non fa parte di Stellantis

  • @monchoglu

    @monchoglu

    4 күн бұрын

    They've already said there wont be another combustion Giulia, it will be electric unfortunately

  • @TommyVercetti2002
    @TommyVercetti200220 күн бұрын

    I appeal to all people with money and ask them to buy an Alfa Romeo so that in a few years I can also afford a second-hand one. Thank you :)))

  • @andymartinez767
    @andymartinez76720 күн бұрын

    I am proud to say, i bought the Guilia about a month ago and LOVE it. The drive is excellent, much better than my X5, or Q5, or my Mercedes.

  • @mathew3293

    @mathew3293

    19 күн бұрын

    amazing, got mine this week! can't wait

  • @hassanger8128

    @hassanger8128

    19 күн бұрын

    ROFL. Alfa has sold only 12 Guilia QF last quarter. I don't know where is the massive buying force on KZread from buying their beloved Alfa.

  • @senseikawasaki2326

    @senseikawasaki2326

    18 күн бұрын

    @@hassanger8128why you hating so much? Lol

  • @ALE_POS

    @ALE_POS

    17 күн бұрын

    @@hassanger8128True, but notorially people don’t understand cars

  • @p40o

    @p40o

    16 күн бұрын

    ​​@@hassanger8128Who cares about sales? Don't like the car? It's simple, don't buy it. No one here is forcing you to buy.

  • @urbanstrencan
    @urbanstrencan20 күн бұрын

    My choice is Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio on the looks alone and the V6 is just awesome add AKRAPOVIČ to it and it's just a symphony. Another great video James :)

  • @hassanger8128

    @hassanger8128

    19 күн бұрын

    Go buy it. It is already discontinued

  • @4g5y
    @4g5y20 күн бұрын

    That Alfa will make you fill with joy when you turnback and look at it after parking.

  • @aliagidon2242
    @aliagidon224218 күн бұрын

    Alfa Romeo love ❤️

  • @craigyirush3492
    @craigyirush349219 күн бұрын

    I’d take the Alfa dash any day. Love the way the screen is integrated into the dash. Hate the tablet stuck on dash look in the BMW.

  • @jordanjoestar8839
    @jordanjoestar88395 күн бұрын

    The Guilias 5 year old interior design has aged better than the m3s 0 year old interior.

  • @nathandepasquale9571
    @nathandepasquale957121 күн бұрын

    Heart - Alfa. Head - beemer. Both absolutely incredible. Great video.

  • @MarcSob22
    @MarcSob2221 күн бұрын

    I love the M3 but the Giulia is better i take the Giulia for sure!

  • @beastofackworth

    @beastofackworth

    21 күн бұрын

    Better or better looking?

  • @flacjacket

    @flacjacket

    21 күн бұрын

    ​@@beastofackworthboth

  • @scherpebocht

    @scherpebocht

    20 күн бұрын

    Not even close

  • @thomasferrarojr.9772

    @thomasferrarojr.9772

    20 күн бұрын

    ​@scherpebocht I can't believe how people could be so wrong. The Alfa is UNDENIABLY better looking. And it is a better driving car. Better steering, more advanced and compliant suspension. There's no doubt. Go drive one and then come back and tell us. You clearly have never driven a Giulia, we know this. 🙄

  • @scherpebocht

    @scherpebocht

    20 күн бұрын

    @@thomasferrarojr.9772 maybe the GTA but the design is way out dated its almost 10 years old there is no way its better looking, and yes ive driven a Giulia but a rental diesel i didnt like the interior layout and the flippers not being attached to the steering wheel

  • @ChrisSmith-fu7fo
    @ChrisSmith-fu7fo21 күн бұрын

    You can pick up the Giulia for £70k brand new right now, versus that spec Beemer will be nearer £90k with carbon seats & brakes. Not really a straight head-to-head.

  • @diegopetitto7463
    @diegopetitto746317 күн бұрын

    Giulia for sure ❤

  • @paulmichael3844
    @paulmichael384421 күн бұрын

    Brilliant review I would take the Alfa if given the chance

  • @MB-zt9eo
    @MB-zt9eo21 күн бұрын

    Alfa 🍀 just bought it😎 Rosso Etna full Carbob😜 Top Sedan For me👍

  • @joper90

    @joper90

    21 күн бұрын

    Fair play, I have a Stevlio quad, be ready for 19-20mpg :) They just evaporate petrol..

  • @MB-zt9eo

    @MB-zt9eo

    21 күн бұрын

    @@joper90no problem i will keep for my sons! 4C to one Giulia QV for the other! Giulia QV grow up the value very soon like it Was for my 4C👍.

  • @ISLAMICSTORIES13

    @ISLAMICSTORIES13

    4 күн бұрын

    @@joper90 20 mpg is not bad at all at 500hp. pretty much unheard of 10 years ago

  • @ksoman953
    @ksoman95321 күн бұрын

    They still make the QV? What a handsdown gorgeous and timeless car. It wins just for timeless looks. Who buys cars anyways anymore with current prices... lease the BMW buy the Guilia and and park it and just stare at it.

  • @hassanger8128

    @hassanger8128

    19 күн бұрын

    Yes, that's why no one is buying Alfa. People are buying them on the comments here only.

  • @jerehada

    @jerehada

    18 күн бұрын

    Looks better in the metal.

  • @jjchockey

    @jjchockey

    17 күн бұрын

    @@hassanger8128yes because sales numbers means something is better 😂. The general public has no taste. It looks far better and is much more fun, engaging, and characterful.

  • @tonunknown1

    @tonunknown1

    17 күн бұрын

    @@hassanger8128actually, in 2024, Alfa is the 2nd fastest selling car company in the United States, Mazda being number one.

  • @hassanger8128

    @hassanger8128

    15 күн бұрын

    @jjchockey Yes, sales figures means your product is good and people like and buy it. When sales figures are so low, it means that people don't like the product and it is a failed one. That's why Guilia GV is discontinued.

  • @Athelass
    @Athelass19 күн бұрын

    Giulia QV please ❤🎉

  • @rotteneggconcept
    @rotteneggconcept21 күн бұрын

    I think maybe reviews get super Salons wrong , the question they need to answer is can you put your entire family in the car and drive cross country and when everyone is asleep enjoy your drive. i don't want a stiff ride at 5 tenth cause that's normally where id be driving with the family, a super salon should have rounded edges it should not be track-capable or "Nurburgring" tested, I think ultimately that's why most people end up buying M5 or RS6 ,RS7 or the Giulia, basically I want a fast car that can comfortably carry the family, not race my thoughts any

  • @wasdwasdwwasd

    @wasdwasdwwasd

    20 күн бұрын

    That's perhaps a warm saloon like an S Audi but anything flagship (Ms, 63s, RSes) should be able to be driven at 10/10 without feeling like you're going to slide off the road.

  • @AP-cc1uw

    @AP-cc1uw

    20 күн бұрын

    @@wasdwasdwwasd that’s not how it used to be. The M cars used to be great daily drivers, and yet still you could get the 335i or 535i beneath them. These M cars are too stiff. If the M3 had a suspension setting that was 20-30% softer than the current softest setting that would do it. But I wonder if it’s even possible given the weight.

  • @F1ll1nTh3Blanks

    @F1ll1nTh3Blanks

    20 күн бұрын

    Why, if it's a super saloon it should also be track performance capable, that's what the "super" is for. If you don't need that performance then just go down a model and get an M340i or an M550i, they're way better looking, more comfortable, plenty fast enough in their own right and you save a fair chunk of money for the trouble.. Why do you want the sportiest version available from launch and then complain when you have to make more compromises?

  • @minio4444

    @minio4444

    20 күн бұрын

    By the “old” standards most of the mid range saloons are “super saloons”. You get 250bhp 2.0l petrol or diesel engines in basic specced models. 3.0l models are plenty quick enough for hauling your family and being quick enough to lose your license. The super saloon term evolved. You do not need them, you want or desire them. You can buy a house in parts of the UK for the m3 money. You don’t compare them to the m3s/m5s of old.

  • @BmwAlfa123
    @BmwAlfa12321 күн бұрын

    I've owned an M5C, M2C as well as a Giulia and Stelvio QVs. I miss the Alfas way more than the M cars (currently have an M850i "fake M") If I was to pick between these choices, I'd pick the Giulia. there was just something special about ownining a Quadrifolgio whereas the M always felt like a slightly faster 5 series. If I was to rank them, it would be Giulia/Stelvio tied for #1, followed by M2C and then M5C.

  • @pasma1983

    @pasma1983

    20 күн бұрын

    You just had a toyota starlet man, give up!

  • @joetacchino4470

    @joetacchino4470

    20 күн бұрын

    I’m guessing your M2 was an F87?

  • @BmwAlfa123

    @BmwAlfa123

    19 күн бұрын

    @@joetacchino4470 yes, with a Stage 1 tune.

  • @hassanger8128

    @hassanger8128

    19 күн бұрын

    No BMW owner would say a fake M car on the M850, which is faster and quicker than many super cars. I'm really tired of these fake comments who buy Alfa on KZread, whereas no one is buying Alfa in reality. That's why Alfa has discontinued most of its cars, and it is currently a broke and sad company.

  • @BmwAlfa123

    @BmwAlfa123

    18 күн бұрын

    @@hassanger8128 Thats why i put it in quotation marks because that's what others refer to it. My M850i actually has an E85 tune and makes more power than an M8.

  • @fantaildoveman9757
    @fantaildoveman97577 күн бұрын

    Love my Giulia QF. I'm sure technically the BMW is better, but for me there is no comparison. Aspired to get one for years & now I'm fortunate enough I could treat myself. If you have the opportunity don't hesitate. If I've had a bad day, I give it a bit of a blast on the way home & the world becomes good again.

  • @rooit923
    @rooit92320 күн бұрын

    Had my Giulia for over 3 years now, and i still love it. I agree it's a 7 or 8 tenths of a car but if you don't do track day, that's fine. I've had 40 mpg on a long motorway run in it's most efficient mode and very comfortable too. Rare and great looking with lots of positive comments. I would consider the M3 touring next though.. Let's not forget the Alfa is now 8 years old and they are still in tests with much newer cars.

  • @pedrosousa8512
    @pedrosousa851212 күн бұрын

    I have to confess, before I prefer the Giulia all day... but this M3 touring OMG I can´t resist!!! It´s such a beautiful touring!

  • @carenthusiastzaza1643
    @carenthusiastzaza164321 күн бұрын

    Another brilliant video! Alfa for me everyday.

  • @qwerty69600
    @qwerty6960016 күн бұрын

    Good review, but to clarify, it's a comfortably £90k car vs essentially a £70k car. The BMW is nice, but I'd take the M4 over the M3. However I couldn't walk away from an Alfa super saloon against either of the M cars.

  • @carpro3690
    @carpro369020 күн бұрын

    I will never get used to the front end on the current gen Bmws I don’t care how brilliant.

  • @annavellotti255
    @annavellotti25518 күн бұрын

    Giulia Quadrifoglio ❤

  • @51madmitch
    @51madmitch13 күн бұрын

    Alfa looks beautiful inside and out, buttons and knobs brilliant, most of us want a quick but every day car, to much adjustment not necessary, a good car set up doesn’t need constant changes with buttons etc.

  • @iRBladeAvEngEr
    @iRBladeAvEngEr16 күн бұрын

    You don't even try to compare Giulia QV and BMW M3 feeling. Speaking about Steering, chassis and gearbox speed (even if it's the same ZF, in Giulia seems faster and much more enjoyable), you can directly understand that Giulia is more rude and engaging.

  • @johncreedon7847
    @johncreedon784720 күн бұрын

    A few guys online have had qvs , went to the g80 and are now back in qvs. Speaks volumes.

  • @Sexiestmanalive01

    @Sexiestmanalive01

    17 күн бұрын

    bla bla

  • @mitchhifi9192
    @mitchhifi919219 күн бұрын

    The Alpha looks much much nicer, especially in that emerald green colour it's brilliant on road.

  • @DjNikGnashers

    @DjNikGnashers

    14 күн бұрын

    At least spell the name correctly ffs ... it's an ALFA not an alpha you MELON.

  • @frankyork5808
    @frankyork580816 күн бұрын

    Why does the M3 need so many adjustable drive modes? Top much tech , just because. Once one sets a car up, one rarely changes it. I prefer more analogue. I will take the Alfa Romeo please (as all true car lovers would).

  • @stevep9041
    @stevep904120 күн бұрын

    I prefer less fiddling with dials and more driving pleasure, the Alfa is simple and answers the brief.

  • @geoffbullock8280

    @geoffbullock8280

    19 күн бұрын

    It's 1 button press to turn to full attack in the M3.

  • @hassanger8128

    @hassanger8128

    19 күн бұрын

    Why haven't you bought it then?

  • @geoffbullock8280

    @geoffbullock8280

    19 күн бұрын

    @hassanger8128 if that is directed to me I have a 2024 M3 Comp Xdrive.

  • @serpenthx
    @serpenthx21 күн бұрын

    Just a small correction: previous differential in QV wasn't electronically controlled LSD, it was a TV (torque vectoring) diff, whch by its nature has to be electronically controlled. Not only it was unpredictable (spinning inner wheel from time to time), it would also overheat on track, and it behaved like an open diff until 50 km/h (30 mp/h). Its great on paper, but software for it was a problem not performing as it should.

  • @coldvaper

    @coldvaper

    17 күн бұрын

    Wonder if you can put the newer diff in?

  • @serpenthx

    @serpenthx

    16 күн бұрын

    @@coldvaper Mechanically yes, but some program coding is needed. Still waiting for first report of a successful upgrade.

  • @jorgeg162
    @jorgeg1622 күн бұрын

    That beautiful Alfa for me....gorgeous!

  • @kevbone4809
    @kevbone48099 күн бұрын

    Great review, thank you. I know all the reviewers talk about chassis when they mean suspension and you made the same mistake when talking about the M3 but they are two completely different things. Keep up the good work, great video.

  • @michelnillesen6659
    @michelnillesen665920 күн бұрын

    no doubt: Alfa.

  • @myou6675
    @myou667519 күн бұрын

    QV owner so I am possibly biased but also not an entirely fair comparison using a fully loaded (carbon brakes and seats) xdrive estate vs a standard QV saloon. The equivalent M3 may still win on paper anyhow but it would fail the “car park look back” test every time.

  • @supremeetnel7707
    @supremeetnel770721 күн бұрын

    seeing alot of comments of people who havent driven the cars saying which one theyd have because of looks.

  • @karmadel786

    @karmadel786

    21 күн бұрын

    Your point?

  • @supremeetnel7707

    @supremeetnel7707

    21 күн бұрын

    @@karmadel786 Cars are more than just looks.

  • @augustortiz

    @augustortiz

    20 күн бұрын

    If they don’t bring looks they bring “Nurburgring times” as if thats the only measure too.

  • @MathsYknow

    @MathsYknow

    20 күн бұрын

    Have a guess which of the two cars @supremeetnel7707 would go for. It takes a big advantage in dynamics at ten tenths to make up for having butt cheeks for a grille. ;)

  • @ChicagoItalian

    @ChicagoItalian

    20 күн бұрын

    Valid point, I was one of those people. Kind of like those individuals who hate on a Maserati (Maserati GranSport built by Ferrari) and have no clue. But yes, you are right.

  • @chasinglimits
    @chasinglimits19 күн бұрын

    The M3 is very good, no doubt. But the QV does all that, but also feels more special and looks gorgeous! Perhaps I’m a bit biased but I think most would agree.

  • @Dark42nty
    @Dark42nty17 күн бұрын

    But only one from these is car🇮🇹🙏

  • @FruitoftheLoops
    @FruitoftheLoops21 күн бұрын

    Fake noise pumped in through the bimmer speakers...annoying

  • @user-my4xu4gf1z

    @user-my4xu4gf1z

    21 күн бұрын

    Not in the USA.

  • @joetacchino4470

    @joetacchino4470

    20 күн бұрын

    @@user-my4xu4gf1zlol, absolutely it does. I coded mine FULLY off using Bimmercode. Oh so much better.

  • @bri1042

    @bri1042

    20 күн бұрын

    Yes, in the USA. I have a '21 M3 Manual. It is easily turned off with Bimmercode.

  • @jerehada

    @jerehada

    18 күн бұрын

    I heard same and thought urghh.

  • @garethmcrae668

    @garethmcrae668

    9 күн бұрын

    Yes exactly- surprised the reviewer didn't call that out, instead of being suckered in by the fake raspberry noises. I mean, I can sit in my bath and make pretty convincing motorboat sounds but ultimately I'm just a sagging, balding old guy sitting in the tub going 'vroom vroom.'

  • @lightenergyfractoid5675
    @lightenergyfractoid567514 күн бұрын

    Is it wrong that I want to buy all the QV's in existence and lock them in a garage for posterity ? I think as cars go electric it will be well remembered as possibly the greatest 4 door sport sedan of all time.

  • @SiddharthaKS1983
    @SiddharthaKS198314 күн бұрын

    I would still go for Alfa Romeo. It feels like a proper sports saloon to me. But people who love tech might like the M3 more than t

  • @FREE_CH1CKEN
    @FREE_CH1CKEN14 күн бұрын

    These are both absolutely amazing

  • @patb5266
    @patb526620 күн бұрын

    Thanks, both awesome cars!

  • @foodsillustrated
    @foodsillustrated11 күн бұрын

    I’ve been fortunate enough to have an f80 M3 and a Giulia QV - maybe I didn’t do enough with the M3, but took the Giulia to the alps, definitely preferred the Alfa

  • @goranmatin3709
    @goranmatin370920 күн бұрын

    Giulia❤

  • @ancient_oak
    @ancient_oak19 күн бұрын

    Both are phenomenal cars. I still can't stand that fugly 4 series grille though, I thought that with time I’d get used to it but...

  • @betterbeavailable
    @betterbeavailable15 күн бұрын

    Love that Alfa. People should buy more Alfa Romeros.

  • @jez987s
    @jez987s20 күн бұрын

    Gulia for me.

  • @PhDScar
    @PhDScar7 күн бұрын

    By listening to this you may think that BMW is faster and better at handling, but Alfa is the fastest car in Nurburgring. The only 4 door car which was faster is Jaguar XE Project 8 (super limited).

  • @1995konst
    @1995konst21 күн бұрын

    Giulia of course!

  • @stanislas4990
    @stanislas499017 күн бұрын

    Design, character, sound, driving experience, the Giulia Quadrifoglio is on another level. The BMW M3 is great and very fast, but without a soul and too serious to be fun to drive.

  • @matejanikolic5316
    @matejanikolic53167 күн бұрын

    Steering ratio: Giulia - 11.8, M3 - 14.6... Not sure how that translates to same feel on the steering wheel, honestly. Maybe progressive steering is done differently, but the rack should not feel the same at all. German cars as a rule don't have an aggressive steering ratio

  • @6th.replicant577
    @6th.replicant57721 күн бұрын

    Alfa, all day and everyday, because it’s just plain cool and not styled for and bought by chavs, spivs, oiks and wankers.

  • @robertvandeveer1846

    @robertvandeveer1846

    20 күн бұрын

    Please don't insult us non-BMW owning wankers please.

  • @hassanger8128

    @hassanger8128

    19 күн бұрын

    That's why Alfa sales numbers are skyrocketing 😅🤣😂

  • @DjNikGnashers

    @DjNikGnashers

    14 күн бұрын

    Just by posting such a pathetic, childish, trolling comment like that, tells everyone who sees it, exactly who the chavvy, spivvy, oik wanker is. A car is just a car, and by labelling every person who drives a certain car as the same, you are being an absolute melon. I own a BMW M2, but I love the Alfa too. Because I'm a real petrolhead, and also an adult.

  • @bigphilswheels
    @bigphilswheels20 күн бұрын

    For me it's simple. They're very close mechanically, in the way they feel and drive. However, the looks? Hannibal Lecter or Sophia Loren? Make mine an Alfa. Plus they'll let you out at junctions! 😂😂

  • @brianb7844
    @brianb784411 күн бұрын

    Own a 2023 QV in Vulcano Black Metallic. Phenomenal vehicle and plan on keeping her.

  • @motorfab7014
    @motorfab701420 күн бұрын

    Giulia is better

  • @martinallenuk

    @martinallenuk

    12 күн бұрын

    at looking like a sales reps car.

  • @H-jb4tf

    @H-jb4tf

    11 күн бұрын

    Na mate. They are crap. My Golf R blows it away. 😅

  • @bartoszbaginski941

    @bartoszbaginski941

    11 күн бұрын

    @@H-jb4tfxDDD Golf R is nowhere close to this class of a car

  • @sodomagorsvk6668

    @sodomagorsvk6668

    10 күн бұрын

    In what. In cost of oil change? Man just oil change cost 350€ in Giulia😅

  • @javis350fsport2

    @javis350fsport2

    10 күн бұрын

    Not even the rims🤣🤡

  • @casey2732
    @casey273218 күн бұрын

    I own M4 comp and one thing is certain... After I drove Giulia QV my car feels like an elephant. You can really feel it's weight and heavy steering. I don't know what changes were made to 2024 model that feeling was different

  • @neilmitchell9421
    @neilmitchell94216 күн бұрын

    Fantastic video! The Alfa has future classic written all over it. Like you said, a wolf in sheep’s clothing too. Mine is a daily driver but a weekend warrior. Heart vs head? Maybe, but I vote for the Guilia Quadrifoglio!

  • @TheHutchRuns
    @TheHutchRuns15 күн бұрын

    These cars will appeal to different sorts of people, Alfa to those who buy with their hearts and BMW for those that buy with their heads. Me? I'd have the Alfa every day!

  • @richardconway6425
    @richardconway642520 күн бұрын

    The Giulia with a manual gearbox is a very nice idea.

  • @sunnysaenngarm5375

    @sunnysaenngarm5375

    19 күн бұрын

    they only made them for the 2017 QV’s in Europe. Pretty rare find from what i’ve read.

  • @davidbee9563
    @davidbee956320 күн бұрын

    I would be curious to know how the actual weights compare. The wagon also would likely feel heavier and a bit less agile than the saloon version.

  • @monchoglu
    @monchoglu4 күн бұрын

    The difference in time of built shows, the giulia would need a heavy cabin restyling to compete, objectively the M3 is the better product. That said, give me the Alfa :)

  • @davieman3443
    @davieman344314 күн бұрын

    I don't care how good the beemer is. I'll take the Guilia anyday.

  • @maxz2552
    @maxz255218 күн бұрын

    Is the m3 engine noise also generated by speakers?

  • @tepes141
    @tepes14121 күн бұрын

    BMW has totally nailed it with this G8x generation of M models!

  • @thomasferrarojr.9772

    @thomasferrarojr.9772

    20 күн бұрын

    Ewww. No.

  • @diogopsilva
    @diogopsilva8 күн бұрын

    The Alfa is a beauty, the new M3 is a monstrosity! I'd take the Alfa all day everyday

  • @Abdel725
    @Abdel72520 күн бұрын

    Guilia ❤

  • @markg1531
    @markg153111 күн бұрын

    I’d get the Alfa without considering the M3 for a moment.

  • @KyleH_03
    @KyleH_0312 күн бұрын

    Could I fit two booster seats in the rear of a Quad? I have a 7 and 5 year old. Car would be my daily and have never seen the backseats in person. Looks small in the videos and photos.

  • @m.x.refrigxolani8365
    @m.x.refrigxolani836521 күн бұрын

    Im a bmw fanboy, I tried by all means to love those gigantic kidney grills, but till now I fail to understand it.

  • @DjNikGnashers

    @DjNikGnashers

    14 күн бұрын

    Me too. They are still my favourite cars, but that grill I can never love. I'm sticking with my OG M2 for now, as in my opinion it's the best looking of all modern BMW's still.

  • @philmountain9290
    @philmountain929020 күн бұрын

    They’re both great, I went for the M3 because I need the estate and ideally like 4wd. If they weren’t my criteria I’d definitely look at the Alfa.

  • @jerehada

    @jerehada

    18 күн бұрын

    I think they are the main reasons to buy beemer. In the UK year round 4wd is useful with 500hp.

  • @Food_n_Driver365
    @Food_n_Driver36520 күн бұрын

    If you love to drive with much less gimmicks, GQV all the way 💪🏼💯

  • @RFG001
    @RFG00115 күн бұрын

    Alfa on car design / looks alone !

  • @Fmb22
    @Fmb224 күн бұрын

    Giulia is just stunning.

  • @jerehada
    @jerehada18 күн бұрын

    Great review not convinced that a UK A rode can really allow you to test chassis and engine of these cars or the difference between them. Talk of front ends hard to explain but either just anilates roads like this with massive limits and if the Beemer is better it’s at academic speeds. Just the performance of either has you doing stupid speeds in a few seconds and width doesn’t let you move chassis around narrow road. Comment based on owning a QF for 4 years..

  • @markomicovic5308
    @markomicovic530815 күн бұрын

    For the difference in price, you can drive, maintain and refuel an Alfa for five to ten years + you have a rarer car.

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