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@Outlaw_Hubcap270

2 ай бұрын

I've only shot Winchester Good ol' box as I call it and hordany superpoformance

@Outlaw_Hubcap270

2 ай бұрын

And I'm tired

Core lokt has always expanded nicely never had any bad experience

I love Remington core-lokt, its my favorite

No complaints with the core lokt used them in my 30-06 for years. Accurate and it works

Been shooting the Winchester power point for 30 yrs,,almost always pass through shots ,and if the don't drop they don't go far with a good blood trail. Thanks for the info 👍,,Western Kentucky hunter here ✌

If it's accurate in your rifle, It's all that's ever been needed for deer. PERIOD! Some fishing lures are designed to catch fish, most are designed to catch the fisherman. Same for ammunition these days.

@Yuracirlce

4 ай бұрын

lol Nice

@geraldrandall1566

3 ай бұрын

Can’t agree more with your comment. Spend more time behind the rifle with cheap ammo, than shooting a few shots once a year with very expensive ammo. Most likely missing the deer anyway because of lack of practice. Shoot well, most ammo will respond to that.

@aarongreenfield9038

Ай бұрын

And some fishing lures even make good 12 gauge slugs.

I purchased more federal 308 blue box on sale years ago than I could use in two lifetimes, regularly $18.99 on sale for $15.99 a box of 20. As a reloader I’m a strong advocate for using the same everything all the time for maximum consistency. At the time I couldn’t load a rd for that cost. Every yr that I check my zero ( Ruger American) I get a MOA group. Finally, I’m left with good brass that’s fire formed to my rifle for reloading,

There were three of us hunting with Corelocks extensively for about 15 years using 270's & '06's. In that period we killed 60+ whitetails and the bullet did its job ever time. Always had exit wounds and these rounds were more than enough for VA whitetails at the ranges we shot (most killed in the 40 to 75 yard range). This ammo/ cartridge combo good to a much greater range we just don't have shots like that. So you are spot on with your assessment for this type of game/range.

Been using corlokt for over 20 years in my Howa 30.06 and it does outstanding.

I've had great success with 150 grain Core-Lokt ammo in my 30-30. Multiple hogs with one shot kills except for one which required two. That one took the first shot at 250yds snd a stiff wind moved the bullet off course, the second shot at 270yds hit the mark. Like the box says, "deadliest mushroom in the woods!"

Blue box federal is my go to for multiple of my rifles, it has given me excellent accuracy and good ballistic performance. It is competitively priced, and available in the more common hunting calibers in most decent stores. I highly recommend to give it a try, every rifle is different, but I’ve had great luck with it in multiple of mine. I agree you don’t need the expensive match grade for most hunting scenarios, but if high dollar ammo makes you feel better about your firearm you’re using, do it. Having confidence in your equipment is more important than saving a few bucks in my opinion. I’m confident in the Blue Box for my application. Your mileage may vary.

@masonleather

Жыл бұрын

I’ve noticed Federal Blue Box is incredibly consistent and is almost always the most accurate of any load I try across all calibers, I’ve only just started hunting with it this past season. It’s definitely good stuff.

I have been sticking with power shoks for quite some time now. Last year my wife took her first deer ever with a 100 grain power shok out of a .243, it ran 20-30 yards and it was done

Only time these types of bullets arent very good is if your hunting out past 300 yards, which most people dont. Its easy to get caught up in the latest marketing hype but the average hunter really doesnt need fancy bullets. I do miss the days of Remington corelokts being 17$ a box

Great video. I have done some reloading but generally use cup and core bullets. Most off the shelf ammo is good. It has to be otherwise it would not sell. People still use Remington Core-Lokts, Winchester Power-Points, and Federal Power Shok because they work. I have used all three in .243, .270, .30-30, and .30-06. The exit holes (going through the chest broadside) are generally larger than a quarter for all four mentioned cartridges. I now only own a .30-30 and a .30-06 for hunting purposes. I use whatever is on sale (Remington, Winchester, Federal). I use 170 gr in the .30-30 and the 150 grain in the .30-06. I have only hunted on the East Coast for whitetail, wild boar, and fallow deer.

@masonleather

7 ай бұрын

Glad to be of service!

My cheaper go-to bullet is the Federal Fusion. It’s bonded, soft enough to expand but not too soft that it explodes. The fact that it stays together means little to no blood shot meat. When it hasn’t had full penetration its been in the offside hide. It’s been extremely accurate in all the rifles I’ve seen it in. Bullets I’ve caught have appeared to have great weight retention and expand wide. It’s only a little more expensive than the three you mentioned and I would highly recommend it for deer-sized game.

@jmgates09

Жыл бұрын

Not cheap in 6.5 prc

@CircleBrewery

Жыл бұрын

I’m a fan of this ammo as well

@BadoreksDailys

Жыл бұрын

Dad switched from core lokts to fusions several years ago. Very good success with both, one year the core lokts just turned off in his gun. Went from an inch or better to two plus.

I have had zero issues with the ammo under discussion. Bottom line, it all comes down to shot placement.

I’ve always used the 180 grain Winchester super X in my 308 for moose and have had no issue, always a one shot take down

@masonleather

Жыл бұрын

Nice! I know a lot of guys in Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont swear by 180’s in .308s, either Super-X or Corelokts, for big whitetails and moose

@misterfister7262

Жыл бұрын

That's awesome. What distances do you think the shots were taken? I know people use 30-30's for moose also but they're relatively close

@tysonsteranka3364

Жыл бұрын

@@misterfister7262 I want to say all were sub 200 yards

I been using 150 grain winchester PowerPoint in my 308 for years and have had nothing but exceptional results most of them folded in their tracks and the ones that ran didn't make it more than 30 to 40 yards

@mattgriffith5044

6 ай бұрын

I have a finicky kimbur 308. Lord knows how many different ammos I’ve shot out of it. I’ve used the high dollar ,cheap and had my dad do some reloads. Grouped Winchester power point the best. All I shoot out of it now is

@voiceforthevoicelesstruth5480

6 ай бұрын

Those super x soft points out of a .308 leave massive blood trails! All I use. Out of a .300 win it’s like a cannonball!

I have used all of the above with success over the years. My Dad liked his Winchester Super X Power Points. I preferred the Remington Core Locked, in his Model 99, 300 Savage, and my Model 88 Winchester 308. Both guns cleanly killed West coast Blacktail Deer. In those days, we knew the limitations of our guns and rarely took shots over 100 yards. We also, because ammunition was both available and affordable, spent a lot more time at the range than most modern hunters. I think these practices would still make them all effective ammunition choices.

@martinchen3838

7 ай бұрын

Agree, it's better to practice and use one brand and weight than move your scope zero all over the place trying different loads.

Other than my handloads, those "run of the mill" factory loads, work quite well, and better than a lot of the older stuff, too!

I've been hunting with corelokt ammo all my hunting career, With several different guns. Never been disappointed .

Both Federal Fusion and Hornady American Whitetail both have performed awesome for me recently. Killed dozens of deer with 308 core lokts coming up as a kid and never had any issues.

My experience with Remington core lock was very good. We shot a deer at around 25 yards behind the shoulder with a 240 grain 44 rem mag fired from a ruger m77/44. When dressing it we found the bullet on the far side skin. It expanded a lot.

My go to used to be the 165 grn remington corelokt in 30-06 but the last few years it just has not produced the accuracy it used to have. Switched over to the federal blue box powershok in 150 grn and its right on. Took 6 deer this past season and all but one dropped on the spot. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

The proof is in the numbers of dead deer and other varmints eliminated by this low cost rounds over 25 years plus of hunting by countless hunters. The more expensive ammunition is written about in magazines and online articles by writers paid by the ammo companies. Additionally, most kill shots are within 100 yards where the less expensive ammunition function well enough.

Shot placement is everything

My grandad, dad, and I all used to shoot the 80 or 100 core lokts out of our 243’s when I was young. Would buy of bunch of whichever was on sale and run with it for the year. Never had a failure to speak of aside from one shoulder shot on a pretty large bodied mule deer around 280-300 yards in Idaho. Buck was already hit hard, he put another in just to make sure. Bullet didn’t make it through the shoulder. One year the core lokts just “turned off” in my dads gun. He switched to fusions and has been happy since.

I been hunting with remington coreloft for nearly 60yrs never had a problem. My boys use it also.

Most of the time the answer is yes at least for deer and smaller game! In my short 60+ years of hunting reloading and collecting rifles and coming from 5 generations of hunters I have seen a couple deer taken with just about every bullet made! That being said I think for elk you need premium bullets that will hold together and cause some deep bone damage!

Thanks for the video. You are right about the hope of new bullet technology. I have an 8 point mount from nearly 30 years ago I took with one shot at 366 steps in a wheat field 243 Winchester 100 PSPCL Remington green and yellow box rt front shoulder to left hind quarter. Found the remaining portion of the bullet just under the hide. Still have it and it weighs 82 gr. They hav always been great for my use. Thanks. WB

@user-tu9pq3yx3n

7 ай бұрын

I hate auto correct! I was saying hype not hope.

We use 165 grain Winchester power point for deer and elk out of the 30-06. Never had an issue. We used to use 150 for deer and 180 for elk. However since using the 165 we just sight in once and are done.

I believe these the Remington Core Lokt is an excellent bullet, of course if the load is accurate out of your gun. The real reason why many of us started handloading ammunition many years ago was because some loads just didn’t always shoot just the best out of a particular rifle. That said , if it did the bullet always seemed to do a respectable job.

Cor-loks has been a 100% reliable for my family. I've been a handloader since age 11 . That is 54 years. My dad taught me how and improving on what he taught me. With that said, he always hunted with Cor-loks in his 7mm Mag BAR. Call it his Boom Boom gum . First Boom from the muzzle blast , 2nd Boom from the deer hitting the ground.

People have been going down to the local hardware, bait shop, gas station, or whatever on their way out to the deer stand and have brought home the bacon with cheap rounds like that.

My wife is new to firearms and she has a Savage axes 243 and her riffle loves the Federal power shock in the blue box, and she can write her name with it at 50 yards..

Lmfao, the sale of flashy ammo is no different than idiots buying extremely expensive hunting clothing thinking it will guarantee them success. You know how many elk n moose Iv watched my grandpa drop wearing old ass snot stained red and gold Texaco coveralls while shooting Winchester Silvertips he got from a Folgers coffee can that have been on the floor of his K30 for like 5000 years? Lol alot, I remember him blowing his top when Winchester stopped making the SilverTips so he finally forgave Winchester and settled on the PowerPoint. Loved em, he often said the Federals would blow apart on big game especially shoulder shots on moose to prevent them from getting to the bog water and the Remingtons would mushroom perfectly but slow down to fast while the Powerpoints could always be found on the far hide or have completely exited. Most times we are learning again that Old is still Gold. Great video, lots of good memories .

Based on the lessons learned, I agree that the three brands/types of bullets are more than capable of taking the average whitetail and wild/feral hogs. These specific experiences center around shots from a 30-30, .308 Win., and 30-06. I will say that the only exception to this is using my 300 win mag with a 150 gr Core-Lokt/Hornady style bullet. These rounds were hand loads with an average muzzle velocity of 3300 fps. I shot two 175-pound sows broadside/high shoulder at roughly 50 to 75 yards. After shooting them, they both disappeared into the swamp. Upon looking for blood, I couldn't find but just a few drops. Eventually, I was able to find them. On both of them, I hit where I had aimed. On both, I had an entrance wound but no exit. After cleaning them, both wounds were noticeably shallow (4-5 inches in depth). The bullets hit and seemed to have "exploded" after entering the animal. To be honest with you, I had never seen anything like this before in any other caliber. At that point, I began to do some research and found out that a "standard engineered" Core-Lokt style bullet is not really designed to handle much more than 3150 fps at the muzzle. Going upon this info I reloaded a "stiffer" bullet (Barnes TSX/I50gr) in my 300 win mag. I choreographed these at 3300 psi at the muzzle with a compressed load using Hodgdon H-1000. After going this route, I have had pretty much complete pass-throughs on all the hogs (175- 300 pd) I have shot. SO, yes the three brands/style of bullet/loads are good for whitetail. I will say that they have worked on wild hogs as well in my 30-30, .308, 30-06. My experience says that this is not the case if you have a rifle with a muzzle velocity of 3200 fps or greater. The "stiffer" copper bullet is better with higher velocity rounds on more dense animals such as large feral hogs.

Mason great discussion. I use S&B 140gr for my 6.5 Creedmoor. Superb expansion. We can tell by the fire hose coming out of the deer. Federal anything in 243 or 30-30. 350 Legend 180gr Super X - Wicked performance. Hits like a bazooka. 4 monster bucks and 2 black bears. Do a test with your new Ranch rifle. My camp has 10 deer down with it. Holy moly its got power. How the heck it does we don't understand, but man does it put them down. My brother took 1000lb moose with last year. Blew whole right through it. 130yds. Engine room both lung, 1/4 heart and half way to China.

When I first started hunting in the 70's, I bought mostly Rem and Fed ammunition because it cost less than Win at the time. Rem and Fed was 6 some odd and Win was close to 10. I started having trouble with the Fed ammo splitting case necks in the shoulder area, so I quit buying those, even though they were sold in the neato red plastic belt holder doo dad. Sometime in the early-mid 80's I was introduced to reloading, and haven't bought any centerfire rifle ammo since. I was raised up during the era when all the "experts" declared that you needed a magnum something, and that a proper bullet would rapidly expand and be found just under the hide on the off side. Thankfully after I learned to properly bowhunt, I learned the value of having 2 decent sized drain holes. Like Arnold said, If it bleeds, we can kill it

Been killing whitetail here in Western Kentucky with the Super x power point since 1989,,great penatration, great expansion!!!,,thanks for the video👍✌

@masonleather

Жыл бұрын

Glad to be of service!

@taylorharbin3948

Жыл бұрын

Where in west Kentucky? I grew up there!

@jak2461

Жыл бұрын

@@taylorharbin3948 Daviess County!!

@jak2461

9 ай бұрын

​@@taylorharbin3948Ohio county

the round nose bullet like the 270 150 gr , 30 cal 180 gr and the 35 rem 200gr are tremendous on deer and black bears in my experience. I've been in lot of bear camps since the early 90's , and hunted deer since 1974. I drew am elk tag once . my guide with 20 years experience advised me to use core lokt's . he said he had seen too many issues with the fancy stuff. he also said not to bring a mangnum unless you had shot it a lot , he said 270,308,30 06 , were fine. he also said not to show up without a shooting stick.

any one of those bullets will do the same thing. basic flat tail expandable bullets. will expand double their caliber. with no fragments in your meat. the most important thing with those three different bullets is to find out what groups better out of YOUR gun. what groups good out of your buddy's gun might not group good out of yours. these three bullets are the granddaddy of expandable bullets and will drop game like nobody's business. if you have a couple of hunting buddies, go out and buy a box of each and go to the range to see what groups out of your different rifles. as i said, once you and you pals find out what groups good out of your rifle, stick with that ammo. these bullets are like "stairway to heaven" or" take me home country roads" they might not be on the charts anymore but when you play them it still sounds just as sweet as when you first heard them.

I’ve recently started using Barnes ttsx in my hunting rifles which is expensive but figured as much game as my family and I eat I’d like to stay on the safer side with no lead in my meat. That being said before I switched I exclusively used 180 grain Winchester power points in my 308 to take numerous black bear and deer with amazing results and very little tracking. My family has been moose hunting for close to fourty years and piles of moose have met their mark with core lokts and power points in various calibers! They just plain work.

Remington green box works quite well, thank you.

core lokt has always rocked the hunting world!

I am a big fan of Hornady SST in my .308. It has never failed me. I always buy Remington Corlokt as a sight in round and then fine tune to the more expensive ammo. I always "gift" myself a new firearm every Christmas. This year was a Weatherby in .270, I bought the Remington Corelokt to sight it in and the Hornady for the kill shots. After sighting in with the Corelokt, I tried to sight in with the Hornady. I will be hunting next year using the Corelokt. No comparison, it was way more accurate in the Weatherby.

My own experience has been with Remington Green Box and the old Federal Red Box in various calibers. All great stuff. Most Winchester Super-X are great, although back in the 1990s, their nickel-plated cases gave me fits in my .270, both the factory loads themselves, which did not cycle well in my BAR and would hang up extraction from my M77 Ruger. I also tried handloads with these cases. The necks would literally crumple in the press, even when trying to seat boattails. Strangest reloading encounter I ever had. I bought these particular cases for their potential durability, but I suppose the plating made them a bit finicky, never bought any more of those. The brass case Winchester loads were never an issue. Come to think of it, that was about the time my go-to factory loads almost exclusively became the Remington Green Box for many years after. Nothing fancy, but they have been 100% reliable, just like those Federal base offerings

Great video👍

@masonleather

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, glad to be of service!

I've been using all 3 of these rounds for 30 years. Core lock is my go to but they all 3 do the job well.

More deer have found their way to the wall and freezer with help from those cartridges than all the other iterations combined.

I had awesome experience with the Remington core lokt with deer and cow elk. 2 weeks ago i shoot a bull elk with my 300 win mag 150 power shok at 397 yards and it hammered him. He dropped right away.

From an accuracy standpoint, I can tell you I've shot hundreds of rounds of each (Winchester Power Point being the most accurate) and they all shoot well out of my Savage 99 (.308). At 100yds the Power Point 150gr ammo typically groups 5 shots within 1". That being said, I cannot say the same about the premium offerings. I have yet to find a bonded, tipped, or solid copper round that shoots as accurate. And I have shot a few. I believe it may have something to do with twist rate as my Savage is 12-1 and most newer rifles are 10-1 or 8-1, but that's just speculation. What I do know is that the "old school" flat based, cup & core bullets definitely shoot better out of my Savage. And accuracy is 80% of the game when hunting because a poor shot is sometimes worse than no shot at all.

I have had great success with all of those bullets, as long as I did my part they did theirs.

All I hunt deer with is old school cup and core, it works. Usually Core-Lokt, sometimes Power Point or Power Shok, whats in the closet that year.

I love!! The Remington core-lokt But the Winchester not so much. Long story short I had a do standing in front of me and when I went to take the shot it struck the primer but did not fire! Now I know this could have been a one-time thing but I've switch to Hornaday ammo.

I still use core loct almost exclusively up in Alaska. The 250 grain in 35 whelen is like thors hammer on caribou/moose

I think all of them are good, me I mostly prefer federal power shock. But I think shot placement is equally important. thank you for the video

I started out with 180 grain core locts in my 30-06 since the early 80’s. I tried every new premium, bonded, bonded tip, all copper, lighter than 180 grainer’s, and partitions on Deer and went back to core locts. I hand load them now. The closest quick shock and drop on the spot is a 180 grain Nosler ballistic tip but it makes a huge mess inside.

People used to hunt with leads balls so I would say it’s definitely good enough

These are perfectly fine choices to take game. Deer won't notice if it got hit with old school core lokt or the latest magnum cartridge with plastic tip. If you put the bullet where it matters, animal won't run away.

So one thing I have noticed is that if it worked in the past, it will stilll work in the future.I always say if it goes bang fly's out of the barrel and you can hit your target. Thats FINE! Every one wants the fastest newest toy, not always better and always more expensive the the regular stuff. Love your video's

My experiences have been very good with it. Mostly the federal.

My personal favorite is federal power shock, I have killed many deer with it, I’ve had some good luck with Remington core lockt, but I’ve always hated any type of Winchester ammunition, I’ve never had good luck with it in any of my firearms, whether it be a 22, shotgun, high power rifle, or pistol. I also agree with your opinion on using the heavier weight bullets, round nose bullets at shorter ranges are devastating, great to use when you’re not going to be taking long shots.

I am a federal guy,at least when I have a say in it . They've never let me down moose,deer and bear all dropped immediately or within 10-15 yards

Tried and true. It just works the only problem I have ever had was with Remington core lokt not firing in a 270 I had like ten out of a case not fire duds game suck it never failed to fire on game thank God but at the range I had a few not fire I was very nervous and didn't use that lot hunting.

PowerShok: 100 grain 243 win on antelope and mule deer is dynamite. No pass through but dead critter. My dad killed a pile of elk 5/6 point bulls with PowerShok in 308 win.

I’ve got a Manitoba black bear on my wall that I got with Core-loct 150 grain 30-30. It works

Hey Mason. Is there a brand that you find more accurate than others in your rifles? Thanks for sharing.

I use the federal blue box in all my rifles when I first get them to see wat gr performs best and I have so many down with the power shock rounds

Good stuff. I used to choose ammo based on how well it shot in my rifle. Until my deer season xp experience

@davidrussell631

6 ай бұрын

Please do tell.

@mr.mr.3301

6 ай бұрын

@@davidrussell631 shot three does all under 100 yards in 308. No pass through and no blood trails. Then I realized later they worked as designed. Just like eldx does the same. The east coast hunter wants pass through and blood trails. Those hunting at distance and open spaces want the opposite. From now on, bonded, copper or heavy for caliber is what I use.

@davidrussell631

6 ай бұрын

@@mr.mr.3301 Those Winchester Deer Season XP’s shoot great out of my son’s Savage 270 but I’m with you 100%. Two leaks are better than one, and no exit wound likely means more ruined venison and bullet fragmentation. Thankfully, though, their copper impact groups even better in it! Thanks for sharing what I expected!

@mr.mr.3301

6 ай бұрын

@@davidrussell631 I’ve not tried the copper impact in hunting. I’ve see two in gel on KZread not expand. The vortex podcast 270 vs 3006 and one Mason leather did. Not sure I trust them. Barnes is the gold standard for copper. Not much more expensive

@davidrussell631

6 ай бұрын

@@mr.mr.3301 I’ll have to look into the Win. copper impact expansion issue. I have a box of Federal Premium with the Barnes TSX but haven’t tried them yet. Thanks for the heads up!

It's work for my grandfather and Dad and me no problem with cheeper ammo just works. Why change if it works.

Hornady brand is my go to

Well... I Would Have to Agree with you about the Ammo. Although I have taken Many More Deer with the Winchester 30. Cal, You Showed At the Beginning of this Video. I am Thankful to Say that I am 1 Deer Short, 🦌 of my lifetime Goal, of " 150 " Deer.!! 😊.

Remington Core lokts never failed me. I have tried other ammo but they didn't hold together as well. Just been lucky with Remington. My rifles seem to group better also.

I or my kids have taken 3 deer and 1 hog with .308 or 30-06 150 grain core-lokt, all dropped instantly or short blood trail, and all with one shot at less than 60 yards (I'm a reformed archery hunter). Plus in my Win Model 70 FWT .308 they are very accurate. The only reason I'd consider changing is if I can't use lead ammo anymore. It's interesting to see what folks have written about Blue Box and Power Point, which I have not used.

180gr Win .30-06 Power Point is the only factory ammo my Father and I ever used for moose and caribou here in Newfoundland. Why did we choose it? Cheapest stuff at Walmart and Canadian Tire when we started hunting big game. No complaints here. Shoots accurate enough for us and is plenty effective on anything we shot with it.

These are good good ammo.

I have never used the Win super 8 but have used Core Lokt for years with No problems. Yes I've tried the higher priced bullets and they do good also but I can't see paying 40-60 dollars a box with the cheaper ones kill just as dead. My shots are usually 100yds or less so cheaper that does a good job is fine with me but I do worry the manufacturers will screw with the cheaper ones to force us to buy the more expensive ammo seeing how most are foreign owners now.

Good advise. I have switched to bonded or copper. NEVER USE DEER SEASON XP. Unless you prefer no pass through. That is also why I don’t like precision hunter. Best cheap is federal fusion. I’m liking Barnes these days. Or accubond

Hi there. I've used 30-06 Springfield SP 11.70 g (180 gr) for about 2 years. In Ireland it is 25 Euro a box of 20 rounds. Main problem is that due to recoil I can't be sure where I hit, to decide about follow up shot. Otherwise, it's perfect for me.

I always liked Remingtons round nose bullets. They always worked very well. I have had great success with Hornadys flex tip bulkets too. Winchesters super x takes 3rd place. The only negative i ever had was with a near point blank shot with Hornady lever ammo, and it blew straight thru a deer and it looked like the bullet did not open up. The deer still died tho.

Had the Federal Powershok in 180gr 30-06 have jacket core separation. They were accurate but did not like them on Moose. The Corelokt hold together better but one you did not mention that I prefer that I consider a traditional cup and core and in the same category as those mentioned. The Hornady Interlock. That's just my experience, other may have seen the opposite.

Between the 2 rifles I’ve deer hunted with being my 243 youth rifle and my 270 both have loved the core lokt 100 gr 243 and 150 gr for 270. Both my rifles with their perspective rounds I can get 1” or less groups at 100 yds and all deer I’ve shot with both have been 1 shot and 1 kill. Also used federal blue box once for pigs out of my 270 130 gr and it killed the one pig also. Winchester rounds I can’t get sub 3” at 100 yards so I prefer what my rifles like plus my dad has had several duds from Winchester but never from Remington or federal.

@masonleather

7 ай бұрын

Outstanding, I’ve found the same thing accuracy-wise regarding Winchester, seems like a lot of people concur.

They may be cheap but they work well on game! Only con I can think of is the accuracy. Some of this budget ammo may not be the most accurate. Shoot what your gun likes.

For most hunting on deer sized game to 300 pounds, it just doesn't take much to be adequate for the job. And yes, once elk and the like size animals were on the agenda you just jumped your bullet weight up a notch and carried on. The . 270 with 150s and the old . 30-06 with 180s are classic examples of adequate even with pretty low tech bullets. Once you get that sectional density up, and impact velocity comes down, it's pretty hard to run out of bullet before it has either stopped or left the critter somewhere in the rear view mirror.

@johnnorman7708

11 ай бұрын

Actually the 3 brands and types discussed here constitute the largest share of the hunting ammo sold and used on game every year. The "premium" stuff is only a small portion of the real market not the fantasy market. The profit margin on "premium" is huge, so of course the industry pushes it pretty hard. But the industry has long survived on regular ammo volume production and sales, and they know all too well that their standard offerings have to maintain at least adequate performance to keep their reputation fully intact. Ammo success or failure is long remembered by brand name decades later long after the exact details of the load used have passed from memory.

Everything I've shot with federal power Shock has went down or ran very little, my favorite ammo for deer

Remington's corlock Federals power shock. Winchester's PowerPoint are the only 3 rounds. I would purchase. The main problem with anything else, it's a sales pitch. They Manufacturer Them for a while, then you can't find them. After a few years.

Been good enough my whole life lol. Core lokt 30-06 dropped my 178" buck, and winchester power point killed my 140ish" and 120ish" in 30-30. I did have one core lokt not go off once, but after cleaning out my firing pin, the same bullet went off so I have nothing bad to say about em!

Well I absolutely hate federal ammo. But threw the hard to find ammo . I had to use it if I wanted to hunt . And I'll honestly say I was amazed for 243 federal

I got 3030 Henry that loves the Winchester power points 150 grain

I use almost all the time hornady international custom interlock ammunition. Drop em' right down after impact.

My .308 likes 165 gr bullets and it groups well with 180 gr bullets but the drop is significant… can’t get it to group with 150 factory or hand loads yet

what happened to winchester ssilvertip 30-30 150 back in 90's went in like a 1st grade pencil came out like a 50 cent piece

30-30 win power point always works for me.😊

There's been more 300lb bucks down here in cajun country with core locks.

165 308 American whitetail or federal fusion is my go to.

Deer don't care what gimmick a bullet has. I took down a buck this November with 150 grain Federal Non Typical Whitetail. One shot 20yard snap shot. He went one bound and that was because I shot before he got going. I think the gimmicks on bullets to enhance expansion etc are to sell more expensive ammo and maybe compensate for poorer shots.

130 grain power points in my 270 are devastating. Usually dropped on the spot. Shot one 270+ yards once. Folded up!

Blue box federal .........works well for me !

What caliber of white tail are you talking about we got deer up in northern Maine that average 200 lb but you have gear down south that average 100 lb so what caliber of whitetail are you talkin about