In a different world from today, 1968, the average 173rd Air Borne rifleman basic load was minimum 20 mags (20 rds loaded with 18) with most carrying 25-30. Additionally, 200 rds for M60, 4 frags, a claymore, possibly a LAW or 81mm mortar rd, 2-3 smoke grenades, always if possible one yellow, then purple or green. Personal choice of knives, usually one folding, and 1-2 fixed (bowie knife, and Gerber or Randal style fighting knife). A 7 day resupply cycle was the norm, extended at times due to weather. No plate carriers, unless it was the base plate for the 81mm. LBE, wss pistol belt, ammo pouches (4mag) canteen covers (2 for canteens, 1 for grenades) and suspenders with bandage pouch attached. Rucksack with metal frame and shelf used to carry poncho, poncho liner, C-rats (13 meals start of 7 day cycle) 2-4 extra canteens. The LAW or morta round and the can of 7.62 linked ammo. Personal items tooth brush, razor, writing paper & envelopes, letters received, foot powder and extra socks. One man per team carried a D-handle shovel, switched each day, and one a machete.

Airborne Infanrty, when I was a young lad. Now as an old man my back, knees and feet will never be the same...

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

Crunchy knees are the hallmark of a man that lived to be old in a profession where men die young

@philliplopez1501

Ай бұрын

@unclefreedom213 Necks and backs too.

@camodad7230

Ай бұрын

@@unclefreedom213 we can generally spot each other by yhe hobble... lol

Realisticly speaking, it depends on the weapon you're carrying. I suggest as much as you can comfortably carry, considering your fitness level and purpose.

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

yes and no. MP5s don't fit in any role outside of direct action and if you're running a 308 as your primary same mag count applies maybe more because you're running less per mag and can't feed off of you teammates

@twiggybones7040

Ай бұрын

Check out the very first minute forty seconds of the video. “Fast, quick, effective and efficient.” You’re setting an ambush and have .308 more is better. Get there and do your thing. Lay down a bunch of hate to lighten your load out back. Go in heavy come out light.

@Ovokor

Ай бұрын

@@unclefreedom213 Cautionary about the source of what I am about to say. According to a Trench Grenade survey asking about how many people are in your group that you train with in the last six months, most people are solo, have one buddy or 2-3 is on the high end. This stat is heavily influenced by response bias. There is a solid chance that at least initially feeding off your pals is not going to be a thing for vast majority of people.

@robertgoodrich8953

16 күн бұрын

⁠@@unclefreedom213All true. But civilian .308 is not military selectfire infinite re-supply. It may be very restrictive ammo use based on good target I’d and decently clear shot.We also won’t be working much larger than squad size units.

Outstanding "why" behind the loadouts. Loved the reference to long range recon/recondo lessons learned.

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

I'm looking into doing a pure recon load out video with all the gear

@user-cj5yq8yz6n

16 күн бұрын

@@unclefreedom213 Bet you won’t

Here in California, a direct action load out would require at least 15 mags 'cause Gubnor says standard mags jump off of shelves and kill people all by themselves.

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

I feel for you and I'm not gonna tell you what everyone else does which is to move. I know that may not be possible. I will say do what you can and stay safe behind enemy lines

@twiggybones7040

Ай бұрын

Just some thought of mine. “Jungle mag” those 10 and 15 rounders.

@newscoulomb3705

Ай бұрын

@@twiggybones7040 10 is the cap in California. You can get 10/20 and 10/30 that can be modified later if freedoms are ever restored.

@twiggybones7040

Ай бұрын

@@newscoulomb3705 still. Jungle mag the 10s. It’s the only solution I have other than to outright ignore the law. The choice is yours.

Good REAL Info

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

I like truths uncomfortable or not truth is always better

Another professor freedom video good info 👍

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

Much appreciated, glad these are helping people understand the WHY.

@jamesprewitt1501

Ай бұрын

@unclefreedom213 yeah and honestly the why is more important than the what most of the time with these kind of topics

Carry infinity mags. Reach into the void bag & keep pulling them out, lol!

I can think of several military operations where they didn't have the supplies that they needed, simply because they were told that it wouldn't take very long. Somalia in the 90s, Panama in '89, Grenada in '83 just to name a few.

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

That's all Murphy if he didn't show up it would've worked in all of those situations

Freedom 🇺🇸

Soooo basically, think of magazines like bacon. Do I have enough bacon? Don't care grabbing more!!

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

Always more bacon

@williamneal7210

Ай бұрын

"I'll allow it!"

Good information as always. Thanks for sharing.

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@unclefreedom213 EXCELLENT VIDEO!!! I greatly appreciated that you broke down the types of scenarios and mags for each. You were absolutely correct, I have never seen anybody else explain the why’s and where’s for these loadouts anywhere else! Way to raise the bar and continue educating! Thank you! P-man

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful, I like to explain the why behind things there's enough guys just telling you the what

Another great one!

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

Thanks again!

Excellent info very informative.

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Hell yeah!!!! Awesome Information, thank you.

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

Any time!

Uncle Freedom = GOAT 🐐

Great content. Much needed.

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Eight 30 round mags.

@user-ci2mn1oy3w

Ай бұрын

what for? gonna MISS with 95% of your shots and expect to survive it? Since the advent of the AK, no medal of honor winner has SURVIVED having to hit more than 6 of the enemy with his rifle. If you're out and about in daylight once shtf, making noise, having a fire in daytime or showing a light at night, you wont last a month.

@Savage_Thinker

Ай бұрын

im at 7

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

Pretty standard loadout and a hood middle ground would still have access to more in a pack

@woodsghost9088

Ай бұрын

​@@user-ci2mn1oy3w you are making a lot of assumptions about "SHTF." For most SHTF I observe, 60 rounds is good from a "PDW standpoint." But "most of the time" is not "all the time." And for the rest of the time, 8 mags seems pretty non-controversial. It has some solid logic.

Thank You For Sharing Tis Valuable Information !! Reality Is Far Different From Fantasy !

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

Seems to be my SOP shine the light of experience on the darkness of fantasy

Excellent

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

thank you

My plate carrier I carry 5-8 rifle, 2 Pistol with 2 on the rifle. Belt 3 rifle and 3 Pistol. Assault bag 4 rifle 3 Pistol and 2 Pistol possibly on my leg strap once I have my rucksack setup atleast 7 rifle not sure on Pistol mags yet but I have 2 so far

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

I would pull some off thw belt you're gonna wreck your back (experience) and you'll be less mobile

I love when I’m looking for a lunch time autistic KZread video to watch while I eat and I see there’s a fresh uncle freedom video.

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

oh just wait I went full one breaking down the Kore belt, new carrier system and pros and cons of stockpiling ammo both factory and handloads

In country I carried 40 20 mags

I have 4x25s and 20 30s.

Standard combat load in Ramadi back in ‘07 was six mags +1 in the gun. Most patrols were pretty lax so as long as you had 6 total, nobody batted an eye. If I’m ever patrolling the streets looking for Irhabi again, I’m carrying at least six on my plate carrier alone. Got two holders for the belt, and I’ll have one in my boomstick at all times.

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

Oh yeah I remember 7 mags being the be all end all and then we learned better solutions

@josuejoeyfeliciano9533

Ай бұрын

I was in Ramadi in 07. 7 mags was definitely standard.

My guess is that the carrying three mags only thing probably came from a video game, where a guy thought his character looked cool with his three mags on his chest rig😂😂

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

that and the cool guys with helo infil and exfil and QRF getting in the news

😱😱😱😱 uncle freedom wears glasses😱😱😱 lol welcome to the club💯💪

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

oh yeah contacts usually

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

also been in this particular club since 97

I'm going with 14 30 rnd mags 2 pmag 40 rnd mags, and 2 x-products 50 rnd mags. 40 and 50 rnd mags go in my pack for infantry centric loadout. I also have a dmr loadout with just 30 rnd mags

My range bag doubles in weight if I carry 7 loaded mags... it ain't no joke it heavy.

How many 30 round mags do you have? Thank goodness preparation is the key to success. Since the state I live in has claimed them illegal to sale, import etc. the number of mags you have had has become all you are going to have. I have enough though. The mission meets the needs and you explained it well.

I’ve invested heavily in mags, primarily to hedge against the anti’s outlawing them. In realville I won’t be carrying more than one, because I don’t plan on leaving my house if shit gets ugly. I’m a network engineer, not a soldier….

Ammo and water are the priorities. Food and snivel gear always take a back seat.

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

I always have some snivel gear I've spent some miserable nights in hide sites

29 or 30 rounds in a Mag.And as always outstanding

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

yep gotta play youtube rules

It depends. What's your current purpose for 'being out and about'? Is it a neighborhoos patrol? Are you scouting? Are you just trying to get home after being caught away when TSHTF?

i do armed security in the projects in my city & everything is personal choice i run 3 pistol mags, one in gun & two on belt, & 20rd AR mag on belt & one 30rd extra on vest.

I figured three mags on the chest was about comfort on spacing on the chest, too many mags go under the arms and can rub. My personal is one 20 round in the gun and a 30 on the belt, most the time I have this load I am walking own property to see what is going on with wildlife. I am expecting maybe seeing a neighbor on their property or one of the species of predators I have in the area. For a heavier load out I figured, three on chest, one 20 in gun and two on belt with spare ammo not in mags in the pack to top mags off. I can't imagine a situation where I would have to burn through all 6 mags and not have a chance to top some up.

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

I will absolutely promise you if you get into contact like for real contact you can burn 4 or 5 mags and not even be away from contact yet. The military uses belt feds for this role, we don't have that. In oir world that minutman life our focus would be to burn some ammo and break contact to draw then to a place where we can engage and eliminate threats from a superior position. The Minutemen role is far more tactics based on unconventional or asymmetrical warfare than conventional

Patrol loadout on foot for UK 🇬🇧 infantry was 8x30 rd mags, bandolier of 100rds then 100rds of 7.62 link for gimpy. + bombs. Circa 20 yrs ago. Shit gets heavy 🤷🏼‍♂️

I’m 6 min and 30 seconds in. I like this video already.

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

Hope you liked it more as it went on. I'm all about the why more than the what. If people think in reference to the why we make better choices

All the crunchy vets are building mech suits in the garage... Or loading up the dog with extra mags... I wonder if robot dogs are an option for resupply?

Easily becoming the channel I am starting to trust most. I’ve already made changes to what I run because of what I’ve learned here. Belt and carrier. I’m not afraid to admit when someone more knowledgeable than me has taught me something and the moment you are, you’re done. Been watching this channel since the very first video and I knew it was going to be a good one. Understanding the why behind what we’ve all considered to be “just what we do” is great and it gives you the ability to change your load out depending on what you’re doing. But also remember..Tyson said “everyone’s got a plan til you get punched in the mouth.”

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

I have a question for you, you've changed up some gear based on my videos. Did it help you to be a better minuteman and better prepared? Either way it's all love my friend I'm glad you're here.

@jayteefishing1543

Ай бұрын

@@unclefreedom213 it absolutely has. I’ve become slightly faster and more efficient. I know more in depth why I run what I run now too instead of it just being because that’s what the guys around me run or because that’s what so and so runs. Don’t get me wrong..I’ve made changes and I’ve tried it and it just didn’t work for me but most changes I’ve made have been for the better and have benefited me in all aspects.

@jayteefishing1543

Ай бұрын

@@unclefreedom213 and it’s not like I’ve made a shit ton of changes or anything. It’s just been a few. 1 or 2 of them didn’t work but majority of them did.

I ruck with 600 rounds in mags for ar and minimum of 10L of water with ways to plus up to 20L if i need to. If it sucks train more the way you fight. Train skills so you carry less things.

I'd like to think having a "Heat Chest Rig" from Kommandostore is the all-season-tire for the situations you've broken down in this video. Load up 8 mags, slide them in, and forget the burden. The guys who sell them like proving how low profile/comfortable it is by doing jumping jacks and hugging other people. Great for legitimate patrols/recon or uh... making large withdrawals from banks using illicit tactics. >_>

I ordered a double pistol double rifle all in one for my belt recently and I’ve been running that. I ran a double pistol single rifle for a while but I realized if I need that stuff I’d rather have more rifle mags than pistol and wanted to be able to just run my belt if I had to. What do you think about running a double rifle on the belt?

@MochiMoose

Ай бұрын

I know you’re probably looking for Uncle Freedom’s response but I would agree. More rifle than pistol. If anything, two rifle and one pistol reload, but I’ve switched from a battle belt setup to LBE for more rifle ammo and sustainment. I still have a battle belt, two rifle, one pistol, one dump, one blowout kit and a knife, but I just don’t see that as being enough for your typical civilian 2-4 man team doing just about anything. We don’t generally have resupply like a modern military. Hell, we don’t generally have uncompromised comms to even coordinate such things if we had the man power to run logistics like that, unless you’re loaded or you’ve spent ALOT of time, with money here and there, to create an AO with caches, a mesh network with encryption and plenty of nodes, etc. I digress. There are few kinetic situations I can see a civilian in, where they carry both pistol and rifle, that you would actually need more pistol ammo. Better to keep your primary up and running. Hell if all you have is a battle belt, sub one of those pistol pouches for a GP with a backup BCG and small cleaning/malfunction clearing kit. Itd be a better use of the weight than more pistol ammo. Reserve the extra pistol pouches/mags for a low vis setup, where carrying a rifle just isn’t feasible, but contact in close range is still a possibility. My two cents. YMMV

@jayteefishing1543

Ай бұрын

@@MochiMoose yes but all info is accepted here brother. Always willing to see what other guys are running and listen to their reasons behind it and their thoughts. Good points and info. Appreciate your response!

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

I always have at least 2 pistol on the belt as the belts primary job is to support the handgun and my personal aid stuff. That said I have run and know lots of guys that do run 2 rifle reloads on thier belt. It can actually help balance the load from the handgun on the other side. I'm cautious about overloading a belt because it will wreck you hips and lower back over time.

@jayteefishing1543

Ай бұрын

@@unclefreedom213 I’ve noticed it helped once I put an extra pound on that side it just felt better. Good points. Thanks!

Whatever it is for 5.56, you need about half as much .308

Great info ! Hoping for the best, preparing for the worst. Neighborhoods may need to come together and prepare together to defend each other from foreign enemies and comprimised domestic enemies in the future. Love the Blue and Back the Blue. But the badge is only as valid as the Constitutional Integrity backing it. Thank you for your Service to your Community.

Please do a video about having a bolt action rifle is your main long gun but as a designated marksman, if you had to carry a bolt action 308 and a Glock 19 how much ammo would you carry for each and somewhat of a philosophy of use, please and thank you

@misfitlife3091

Ай бұрын

I second this

@PlainsmansCabin

Ай бұрын

I’ll throw a “third” on this! @unclefreedom123 My ‘heavy’ SHTF rifle (backup to ARs) is a Ruger GSR in .308 and a boatload of 10 round mags.

@Camorockers.

Ай бұрын

@@PlainsmansCabin man I’m working with a savage axis chambered in 308 and the Glock 19 as back up. And I don’t have a spare mag for it yet. For me, it’s philosophy of used would be more or less gorilla partisan hit and run kind of Minecraft stuff

@Camorockers.

Ай бұрын

I have a lot more experience and training than I do equipment at this point, but I’ve worked more on living off grid and gardening and providing all my own food now I’m getting back into the security thing. I’m completely confident in my abilities, but I do want other opinions so uncle freedom needs to read these comments lol

Becker content, love it

Most of us are going to be responding to trouble on our property or a neighbors. I’m not going on a patrol and leaving my AOR or leaving my road after shtf. I am not taking anything more than an ifak and mags cause I’m not planning on engagement as a rule of thumb.

Murphy is a bad mofo!

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

indeed one day imma find his ass

@Puma1Sunfire1

Ай бұрын

We all hate Murphy, and we would love to be RID of Murphy but Murphy is the ultimate guerilla fighter. He effs you up and vanishes after

If you don't have a resupply that will affect the numbers of what you have to carry

Just load 30 new mags with good ammo and store in ammo boxes with moisture absorbers...buy another 20 mags or so to train and play with.

10 30 round mags

13 mags or more

my BOB has 48 rds of 60 gr 223 Nosler Partition softpoints and 48 rds of Aquila 60 gr 22lr subsonic ammo. I wear 14 rds of my handmade 9x21mm loads, but the pistol will fire normal 9mm ammo if need-be. I have more ammo scatter-buried at the BOB, just like the food. I have a silenced shorty AR and 22lr conversion unit, armor, night sights, night vision armor, solar charger, batteries and brains enough to not be outside of my tunnel more than 1 hour per night, at least for the first year of shtf and probably 2 years. The 99% can die off without my "help" (or my risk)

@RosaParksWasWyt

Ай бұрын

Dude thinks he can lay in a tunnel for 2 years 😂😂😂

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

what the hell is night vision armor? Is that like an invisibility cloak?

3 MAGS IS ALL I NEED… OR CAN CARRY… I’m 66, had my prostate removed, and quadruple bypass… I will be protecting my first floor 2 br condo…. if I really need more than three mags, more won’t make a difference..

In that I [ and virtually everyone I know who has an interest in this ] don't belong to an organization that has a logistics group/ supply chain, I have to carry what I believe I will need should I have to respond to a calamity or event that may require an armed presence or response. That means everything I may require. Ammo, food and water, medical, commo, and some sustainment gear. My general ammo load out is 10 mags for my rifle, 7 on my 1st and 2nd line, 3 in my pack. I have more " stuff " ready to go should I have to hit the road, but that will be loaded on a bicycle.

What does that big “eye” in that square and compass tattoo on your arm mean to you?

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

I'm a Mason

What knife is that in the thumbnail?

@PlainsmansCabin

Ай бұрын

Becker BK-18 Harpoon, If you like that one, take a look at the BK-16 and BK-19! I recommend both of those as Ive caried abd used the 16 for years. The 19 just recently came out and may overtake my 16 as regular field carry. For EDC, I carry a Becker Necker, BK-11, ita an excellent small fixed blade, esp. with Micarta scales. Speaking of Micarta scales, I really like upgrading to those on most of my Beckers. Becker is my “goto” fixed blade brand. I recommend the Becker sub-forum at Bladeforums, btw. Good luck!

@jeremywilson8334

Ай бұрын

@@PlainsmansCabindoes anyone know why fixed blade is recommended?

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

They're stronger and no built in failure points (pivots)

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

As Plainsman said BK18 love this blade design

@PlainsmansCabin

Ай бұрын

@@jeremywilson8334 As Uncle said, stronger, (an old quote said folders are knives that are already “half” broken.’ Hence as he said, pivots are a weak point. Also, not to mention can be quicker to deploy as no extra motion needed to flip open.

How much ammo for marksman with 308

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

is marksman his only job? is he carrying a primary fighting rifkw or only rhe 308 gasser? Is he doing fire team stuff ie. enter and clearing? Is he primarily an intelligence took or ddefensive/offensive weapon? Deployed from a vehicle or walked in on foot? Does he have a resupply point?

@TexasNationalist1836

Ай бұрын

@@unclefreedom213 I am thinking more long range patrol setting up hide sites collecting intel on high value targets and taking out those targets more sniper than DMR but operates in both roles with the same rifle

7 mags is an hour. 14 is 2 hours. I day is 28 mags

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

I've never needed 28 mags even in the field for 9 days or more. If I've burned 28 mags we're not living through this

Would you enforce unconstitutional gun laws? Also, do you think Fallon should get their rights restored after serving their time?

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

I've answered this first part a ton.... but to answer it again I will never enforce any unconstitutional law gun or otherwise

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

Second part what was the crime? crimes against children or violent crime absolutely not. You got caught with weed or something dumb I don't have an issue with that

Excellent, thanks! Less contractor, more MACV SOG.

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

bingo my friend

Fod 24 hours

I feel like, if youre in the military you will learn or be given the info you need, your audience isnt "suddenly going to be thrown into a military infantry unit", you need to be teaching for shtf wrol scenarios

@Commonsensepreps

Ай бұрын

Know your audience and teach according to that knowledge

@Commonsensepreps

Ай бұрын

Use your military knowledge and apply it to shtf or wrol

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

The military absolutely does NOT give what you need. I learned to modify loadouts and gear because the military did sub optimal gear sets unless you're on the pointiest end of the Spear. I bring that knowledge and background to all to apply as you need yo your situation.

@Commonsensepreps

Ай бұрын

@unclefreedom213 I kind of don't believe that "the military does not give what you need" my best friend is army infantry, the gear he has is more than enough and far better than what I got

@Commonsensepreps

Ай бұрын

@unclefreedom213 he is issued 8 mags in the feild and stows more ammo, I've seen his ruck, and plate carrier personally

“Are you a conventional troop, or are you a guerilla fighter”…Lol typical fantasy mentality here. These are the only two roles?? Knowing damn well none of these couch warrior KZread viewers will ever be in any heroic battles! 😂🤣😂

You need 10 mags on your belt 20 mags on your chest rig on the front. Another 10 on the back. Then 5 mags per leg. So all together 50 mags. That should be enough for a day.

@DanY-zl3jg

Ай бұрын

I don’t think that’s enough. Maybe your tactical dog can carry 10 more.

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

No state requires a permit for a dog to carry.... just sayin

People need to realize that these low count magazine loadouts are generally law enforcement specific. These loadouts assume you are going after one guy...and your team outnumbers the bad guys significantly. Combat loadouts are vastly different.

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

Low mag loadouts are a Spec Ops thing LE only adopted it and recently at that. Loadouts are what they are mentioned for in the video. I agree people need to understand this better. I think I'm gonna do individual loadout videos with all the gear from low mag to Heavy recon

@philliplopez1501

Ай бұрын

@unclefreedom213 I spent quite a few years hanging out with the special people... saw many loadouts for many different missions. In time though, the more experienced guys began to view missions as infiltration/target/egress. Thus, loadouts usually got larger. Jeff Gurwich served in the same group and has an excellent video on the topic. FWIW I think this is a topic that many people need help with. Keep up the good work. Best of luck, Phil

@billyharper5925

Ай бұрын

@@unclefreedom213please this

lots of misinformation out there and purposes of each loadout and what is made for...I have never been a fan of the 3-mag loadout thing I am not an operator, and I don't kick doors ...3 mags ...that is my normal home set up just to be at home lol... for the field at minimum 2 full combat loads... and then some. Is hard for me to understand how can people not see that... this is not Star Wars ...you don't have laser weapons or energy weapons... you need bullets to feed that long stick... and usually the one that carries more wins the fight lol. but everyone needs to look hip and modern and will eat up any new crap they come up with.

Whos the audience for this? Is it someone going into the military trying to learn what will be expected or is it some couch warrior daydreaming about what he will do when things go to shit? Im in decent shape for a 63 year old man and i compare favorably to construction workers i work with. Aint no way i could carry 140 lbs on a march and 70 lbs of normal sounds very difficult.

@PlainsmansCabin

Ай бұрын

Watch more of Uncle’s videos and you’ll see…

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

I make these to shine some light of experience on the concepts behind the modern minuteman

As many as you can carry and run with. Leave the pistol and grab more rifle mags. Your pistol is worthless in real world gunfights

@unclefreedom213

Ай бұрын

Handguns absolutely have a purpose in fights. The second your fight enters a structure/vehicle or the rifles has an issue and you don't have cover that handgun is priceless