The .30-30 is underrated. It isn’t fast or flat, but the bullets designed for that performance window work pretty much perfectly.

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Yep

@765outdoors

10 ай бұрын

I couldn’t agree more! It doesn’t need more speed for that bullet design, just works well

@billy5330

10 ай бұрын

Couldn’t agree more that’s what were using here at our Homestead for deer season this year😊

@Highgear145

10 ай бұрын

If it isn't flat then how am I always on target? I'm a budget hunter which means I don't need a $3000 gun to bag a my game

@FMDad-dm5qo

9 ай бұрын

Yep. So many decades of hunting experience = the bullets are super dialed in at this point

I love 30-30 it's such a soft shooting cartridge and has plenty of power to take down bigger game. My dad's old Winchester Model 94 still shoots like a dream to this day

@benjaminhuberty5888

10 ай бұрын

I love it too. Can't afford to shoot it anymore. $9 a box 3 years ago was fun.... $22-25 is wack. Went from a target gun to wall princess.

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

🤠👊

@roosterboy7357

10 ай бұрын

Mine used to do the same until I traded it at a gun show like an idiot for an SKS and $150. No, I didn’t get $150, I gave it. If only I had a time machine..

@roosterboy7357

10 ай бұрын

It was a 94 A. I traded it with the scope and $150

@crankygunreviews

10 ай бұрын

Soft shooting unless its in a light gun with metal buttplate lol. I get a sore shoulder with my little Sears model 54 with steel butt plate.

My first rifle was a 94 Winchester in 30-30, bought new at JC Penny for $74.99 when I was 16 years old. I still own it and it's still one of my favorite hunting rifles. From deer to hogs, the 30-30 gets it done. And yea, either of those would be fine. Thanks Tools, now I need to buy more 30-30 ammo!

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Very nice.😎👊

@patrickbolthouse7354

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, now JC Penny only sells sports bras and legging. They're going the way of K Mart.

@mot0rhe4d40

10 ай бұрын

Good thing is, you can actually find 30-30 ammo now 👍

@spwiggins

10 ай бұрын

I have the exact JC Penney purchased Winchester Model 94 rifle as well.

@rsbreeze

10 ай бұрын

The best gun is your first gun. I still have my Mossberg Master Mag 20 Guage that has a stamp Coast to Coast Hardware on side plate from 70s.

The 30.30 is a tried and true round, you can't ever go wrong with it!✌️ Another awesome video, thank you!👍

30-30 is amazing. It dumps so much energy quickly and still penetrates good. And its not a bear to handle!

Haven't fired the 30-30 in years. It used to be my deer hunting gun, but I don't hunt anymore, so it just sits in the safe. Appreciate all you do. Keep the videos coming 👍.

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

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The 30-30 has always been one of my favorites. Not a hot rod cartridge but gets the job done. Impressive results, thanks for the test Tools!

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Yessir 😎👊

I'm sticking to basics😊 Walmart best place for 30-30 if you can find it. That blue box was 19.99

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

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@johnnorman7708

14 күн бұрын

That blue box special at Walmart is a bit higher price than it used to be. But it is still the cheapest.

30-30 was my first hunting rifle. Awesome caliber, big fan here. I always used the 170gr. I usually stuck with the Remington SP core Lokt 170gr. The Federal Power Shok reminds of those. Great test and shot placement. Very informative. 170gr. Goes through brush like a like a tornado , straight path. Thanks for sharing and be safe. ⭐️⭐️🇺🇸⭐️⭐️

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Thank you sir. Appreciate ya!😎👊

I took down a Caribou bull at 279 yards with my Marlin 336 30-30 and 160gr Hornady. Dropped in his tracks. I have many very nice rifles, but that 30-30 is my SHTF gun.😊

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

💥🐃💥

Very impressive results. Every deer I’ve seen shot by the .30-30 has dropped like they were hit by a dump truck, and after seeing what those bullets do in the gel it’s understandable. Not the flashiest round out there these days but still 100% capable of getting the job done. Love the .30-30! Great video, thanks! 👍

Got my dads marlin 336 after passed recently. Fun gun to shoot but 30-30 ammo prices are expensive now. I learned on that rifle as a kid. Good memories on the 30-30. You have a great Channel sir

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Sorry to hear that. Appreciate you!

The Power Shocks are widely available around my area. They are also cheaper than most. Glad to see good results from them

With performance like that, you don't choose. Let your gun choose which one it likes (groups) better. Accuracy is as important as bullet performance. Many of my rifles love the Fusion (1/4 to 1/2" groups all day long). My newest one doesn't like it though, it prefers the Federal Terminal Ascent. That Power Shock was impressive though. Great job on the test as usual. Would love to see you test the Terminal Ascent in. 308 Win.

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Thank you sir. Local shop may have some of that. RK had some a while back but it was basically the price of a car payment.😆

From what I saw the Power-Shok hit with more authority, It just seemed to jump the jelly harder, but like you said, both did very well, No problem with either, another thing I've not mentioned before is your channel supports the 2160-4K HD, and since I have got my fiber wi-fi doing great, I can now watch it like I should, Thanks Brian, really enjoyed it, have a great weekend. 👍🇺🇸

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Nice. Seems like most folks watch on their phones now but I still make most stuff 4k for big screens. I watch on a 4k monitor myself. Appreciate ya, brother!😎👊

@josephpacchetti5997

10 ай бұрын

👍@@ToolsandTargets

Iv used the old 30:30. For 50 years taken hundreds of critters and deer it's never let me down. Best in my opinion. In the Ozark forest.

I used power shock for deer in Nort Dakota, 150 gr in 30-30 and 30-06. Both were devastating. Thr fusions looked good, but I'll probably stick with power shocks. Great video as always!

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Thank you sir.😎👊

@tlock4616

10 ай бұрын

@@ToolsandTargets I've been telling all my "tools" friends about your channel.. hope it bumps your numbers. You deserve more subs.

I'd say that feud was not settled. I'd like to see that performance from a similar bullet in a 7.62x39 or 300 Blackout. I always here those 2 compared to 30-30 but I've yet to see results like these. Keep up the good work T and T!

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Funny you mention that. I have some Power Shock in x39 and just ordered some Power Shok and Fusion in 300blk.😎👍

@techfixr2012

10 ай бұрын

.30 WCF will win under 200 yards compared to x29, .300 black is a loser all the way around.

@jstephen45

10 ай бұрын

@@ToolsandTargets I'll be watching for those new tests, sounds great!

@johnw391

10 ай бұрын

I have .300 BO and 7.62 x 39 both about 150 yard guns. I run .308 150.00 SST projectiles but I have wanted a .30-.30

@blacklight6200

10 ай бұрын

​@@ToolsandTargetsI was hoping for some 30-30 vs 7.62x39 as well so I'm glad to hear it!

Great test once again. Outstanding video. You never disappoint.

🇦🇺😎👍Hey mate , love the Dirty Thirty….170 grainers are great 👍…the steel target is ringing like a church bell down here in Australia…those brands are pretty hexi down here…just about lit the jelly on fire….MAN 😳, savage entry…..it’s understandable how the 30 30 puts the game down…devastating results , love all those projectiles….fantastic results big guy….would be great to see how PPU would turn out ? …. That’s for that , bestest science videos on KZread 🏁🇺🇸🏁🇺🇸🏁🇺🇸🏁🇺🇸🏁🇺🇸🏁🇺🇸🏁🇺🇸🏁🇺🇸🏁🇺🇸🏁

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

It was slappin that steel good!🤠👊

I just realized as I watched you touching the expanded bullets to urge you to wear nitrile gloves when touching the lead in your tests and/or please wash your hands, thoroughly, as you go from test to test. Lead poisoning is serious. I’d hate to think that you got sick and I never spoke up. You are one of the best providers on KZread. Blessings 😊

@ToolsandTargets

5 ай бұрын

I lick my fingers clean between tests.

@johnnorman7708

14 күн бұрын

Transdermal lead poisoning is pretty rare. It takes a lot of exposure to make it a real significant risk.

@mpdjr77

14 күн бұрын

@@johnnorman7708 Thanks. I didn’t know that. I guess he will be okay licking his fingers between tests. His words not mine.

Yes! This is the video I have been waiting on. Thank you! 👍

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

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Awesome!!! I have a couple boxes of PowerShoks and 1 box the Fusion. And 170gn is the preferred deer cartridge for penetration. My Winchester 94 does great with both the PowerShocks and Remington CoreLokts. But of recent years, I think Federal pulled ahead in performance slightly. But now I know the difference in these 2 projectiles, even for my 308. Many thanks, Tools! Appreciate the Common Hunter round testing -- it's a true public service. 👍

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Two more good ones.😎👍

Still have my 30-30 I bought from Western Auto decades ago! Still love that rifle!! Thanks for another great video!

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Used to love going in the Western Auto.😎👊

Loved the video Tools, thank you for doing the Federal comparison, been waiting on it, and i knew it wouldn't disappoint. Both rounds did really did, that fusion is good in any caliber i believe whether its 30-30 or 556, its a winner, but power shok is no push over, id take federals offerings over most standards i believe. Thanks again for doing this test!!

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Appreciate ya, brother. Definitely no loser here.😎👍

It literally makes my day when you upload!! Thanks so much dude.

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Appreciate that, brother! Just got in a few minutes ago from another batch of tests.😎👊

@MrZachxd

10 ай бұрын

@ToolsandTargets I can't wait!!! You have no Idea!!

Excellent deer getter with both. Black bear and hog also. Thank you Sir.

.30-30 is my favorite lever acrion round. Deer season is in, and when gun season comes in it "Looks like meats back on the table boys"! 🤣 You're a great shot with that Henry and scope combo as well!

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Appreciate ya, brother!😎👊

Excellent review. The 30-30 and Henry is a perfect match.

Hey Tools, great test. Keep up the good work Sir!👍👍👊

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Thank you, my friend.😎👊

I started with a slug then, Thuddy - Thuddy. Like a lot of folks. Remington Core-lok, Winchester Soft point and Federal all worked great. The Winchester Silver box I've used from 220 Swift to 300 Win Mag and it was the best price in my area back then. 243 100gr Silver box 11.99. I still have a couple boxes put up. When getting above 2800 fps a bonded bullet holds together better in my experiences. Most of that is on whitetail. Cup n core bullets have worked for year's. Are there improved bullet designs, absolutely but dead is dead. With that said, I wouldn't feel out gunned if this were my primary protection weapon with practice. A leather sleeve on the butt stock with extra rounds. Similair to the 7.62 x 39 military cartridge. Very potent within its parameters. Excellent job as per usual Tool's. Keep'em coming!

Thanks for posting this. More old school round tests would be cool, if you have the time.

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

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30 30 is one of my favorite rifles they look good good test Tools and good shooting .

👍👍great test tools. I have used both those in 150 gr along with the Remington core lokt in 150gr and they are all deadly on deer.

Love the ol trusty dirty-thirty, I have a couple boxes of the federal power Shok on hand, however my rifle a marlin 336 shoots the Hornady leverevolution the most accurate and to date I've taken my biggest buck a big 10 pt with the Hornady LE, the buck dropped DRT on the spot.

Federal Power SHOK 170gr is all I run with a dime size group at 50 and 100 yards (3 round group) with my Marlin 336CS. Great ammo for deer esp. in the brush. It’s a very flat shooting run out to 150 yards. But both were more than great. Great video. 👏🏻

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Nice 😎

My 1970's vintage micro-groove Marlin 336 loves both the 150gr and 170gr Fusions, very accurate. For some reason the Power Shock 150gr is not as accurate in my gun. They all have the terminal ballistics to flatten a deer of a hog. The classic .30-30 is definitely still one of the best medium game cartridges up to 200 yards. Combined with a fast and handy lever action rifle, you can't beat it in the woods. Keep up the great videos TnT!

Like bunch other that have commented. 30-30 was my first high power rifle. Thanks for the test tools.👍🇺🇲

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Still one of the coolest!😎👊

Indeed, very nice performance out of both. I'm with you one which one would I use. Great test as always. The stock on that Henry is absolutely beautiful. I hope this tropical storm doesn't affect you. It is coming right through us here in eastern NC. Have a great weekend.

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

We're supposed to get rain all day tomorrow.😣

I always like seeing 30-30 tests; they all seem to go like this: (1) this round is way old (2) hmm velocities seem low compared to modern stuff (3) [hits the gel] whoa, that would 100% kill the heck out of a whitetail

I love the 30-30 testing brother..it's the first ever smokeless cartridge and it's still popular and being used everywhere to this day..

Great test , great video. Both did really well.

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Thank you sir.😎👊

@trustnot9

10 ай бұрын

@@ToolsandTargets Your welcome. 👍👍👍

Just found your channel. Fantastic review. New sub!

Great Ammo test Tools for the 30 - 30 impressive. I usually run 150 grain for my model 94.

That Power Shock is extremely accurate out of my 30-30 TC Contender pistol. That pistol shoots under an inch with that ammo at 100 yards. Other factory ammo best group I can get is about an inch and a half.

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Always nice to have a gun that likes decent priced ammo.😎👍

Thank you so much brother for doing the 3030 test

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Appreciate ya, my friend!😎👊

I have had good luck with both but in my experience that Federal Fusion has really shined for me. Have a good one brother see you on the next one.

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Love me some bonded stuff.😎👊

Nice job on both rounds! Can't go wrong with a good old 30-30! Preesh brother! 👍Happy Friday! 💥💥

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Thank you sir. You too!😎👊

Good video Tools I have a Marlin 336c 30-30 and really like the way it shoots Stay Safe Stay 2A Strong 🇺🇸

@ToolsandTargets

9 ай бұрын

Thank you sir. Appreciate you!

Good info, being 30-30 is one of my favorites! ❤

I picked up a brand new Henry 30-30 20" all steel with large loop. I believe it's identical to yours. Also a box of Federal Hammer Down and Hornady Lever Evolution as I saw you tested both. I know how they will perform. I will be reloading the 30-30. Thanks again for the video.

Enjoyed the test Tools ! 30-30 is still a fantastic choice for hunting !

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Thank you sir. Definitely is.😎👊

I grew up with the old 170 flat nose 30-30. They hammer deer just fine. At those speeds I don't believe you need a bonded bullet. The "Lever Evolution" s 150 with the soft tip, gives the 30-30 a better BC and shoots a bit flatter.

Yes, I’ll definitely like the 170 fusion. That would definitely work well for me.😊

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

😎👊

Another great video 👊🏻

@ToolsandTargets

8 ай бұрын

Thank you sir. Appreciate that!😎👊

I like the 30-30, it's been a good cartridge for me over the years, on hogs and deer alike. Had a Winchester 94, bought it in rough shape, but it shot very well. Sold it and bought a nice Sears model 54, pretty much the same thing, but this was in great condition and it's cool it says Sears on it though it was made by Winchester. I've used mostly remington corelokts in mine, but I've taken deer with the remingtons and the winchester loads, they seem to perform identical from my experience. I have tons of the Hornady stuff but haven't used it yet, I only bought that because it was on sale for a price I couldn't pass up during the ammo crunch when 30-30 was almost impossible to get.

Thank you for the data

Great video. I use my 30-30 quite a bit and only 170gr ammo. I looked at penetration more than anything as I hunt in western Canada. Mostly hunt deer, mule and whitetail, black bear but from time to time elk do pop up and moose. Keep up the good videos.

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Thank you sir. These look like some more good ones.😎👍

I absolutely love the 30-30 Just as iconic as the 45-70 imo...thanks for another great comparison video tools. 😎👊

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Agreed.😎👊

Actually I liked the Henry 30-30. I have the Big Boy All Steal 20" in 44 Mag and 357 Mag. My next Henry is the 30-30 all steal 20". I like the Henry. I put the big loop lever on both guns. I was impressed with the way the 30-30 bullets expanded. I didn't think they would since no hollow point. Great video, Thanks!

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Thank you sir. Love these Henry lever actions.🤠👍

I love .30-30 in my Marlin, best round for shooting water jugs!

I NEEDED THIS IN MY LIFE

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

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Definitely a underated round ..great video tools

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Thank you sir.🤠👊

excellent vid....thank you

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Appreciate that.😎👊

Awesome performance from both. 30WCF has been a great cartridge for over 100 years... Hard to believe you could buy that Federal Powershok for like 16.99 a box few years ago... over 25 a box at my Walmart niw., when they have some

Great round with a lot of stopping power. Thanks for the test

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

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Great video!

@ToolsandTargets

8 ай бұрын

Thank you sir.😎👊

My brother bought a 30.30 when he was 18 to use for a deer rifle. He took me hunting the year after when I was 8 and let me use it over my dads 12 gauge slug gun so I wouldn’t be suffering after I shot a deer because I was a pretty small kid at that age. I hit a 6 point with it and even for my size and age it felt like a pretty soft shooting gun compared to what I’ve shot before and the deer only made it about 20 yards before he collapsed. If you use it within its parameters it’s a fantastic hunting round.

Im in North Dakota been using Remington 150 gr for over 40 years with Winchester pre 93 . Have made sum 200 yard shots . I practice on a nice flat dirt field to get my hold over . Make sure the hot brass don't land on the horses rear with a top eject 😊 .

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

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Great video, the 30-30 does it again

Excellent ! Nice test - Still my ole go to .

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Thank you sir.😎👊

Tools & Targets, if you can pull it off, you'd be the first person on the platform who's tested Buffalo Bore 190gr .30-30 in gel. But make sure to have 3 blocks. I'd love to see this load tested. The Barnes Pioneer 190gr was tested but Buffalo Bore promises a good bit more velocity and runs a Hawk bullet. BB are expensive and you'll have to order them. Just keep an eye out.

In a world where marketing advertises velocity is king, the 30-30 is often overlooked. However, if your shots are less than 200yrds , the 30-30 with a 170gr bullet is difficult to beat. The large softpoint tip expands nicely and the penetration is more than adequate for medium to large sized game. I could hunt a lifetime with a 30-30 and or 35 Rem and not feel I've needed more.

Thurdy is cool sold mine. Ammo ridiculously expensive for it. Went to 308. I can actually find the ammo where I live. Thx for the video!!!

Great video. I want a 30-30 rifle so bad.

A very good test 👍👍

@ToolsandTargets

9 ай бұрын

Thank you sir. I gotta try to get some more rifle stuff done.😎👍

i use the 150gr in 308 and 30-30 in the federal non typical soft points, which i think are basically the same thing as the power shocks in the blue box

I've taken deer with both. My scope is almost that high. But my rings let me use the iron sites. For those close in shots.

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Not a bad idea.😎👍

Great test I love my winchester 94, im thinking about picking up a henry x so I can run my suppressor on it.

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Local RK has a .410 X Model in stock that was really tempting.😆

I'd like to see 30-30 VS 35, I have one and love it. Hard to find ammo. I enjoy the videos. Thanks

That gun works perfect with see thru sight's. That way you can use the regular sights and the scope.

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

True 😎👍

I use the fusion 460 S&W mag on deer. Very effective. I like the bullets they use in that line.

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

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Very good results from both. I would take whichever was more accurate. 🇺🇸

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Sounds like a plan.😎👊

Nice review. Had a guy call me Wednesday about 30-30; these are the two rounds I sent him links to. Oddly, at that place, that day, they were the same price. Fusion is usually 15~20% more in my experience

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

That's usually what I see as far as price too. I was surprised how similar these performed on this one.😎👍

They were both awesome

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

For sure 😎👍

Man the wood on the stock is beautiful. 👍

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

I think so too. I like how they're all a little different grain pattern.

Great test Tools. Either one would be great to go out and play with some whitetail. Thank you Sir! 👊🏻😎🦌

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Appreciate ya!😎👊

Thanks for the video, I would run either one depending on how my gun likes. Hopefully the gun would like both.

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Appreciate ya, brother!

Nice! Up to 150 yards a winner bring home the smaller deer meat load and rifle combo. Wouldn’t use it further out and on heavier game. My pedestrian 20’ 30-06 has double the energy at 100.

@racecitypatriot66

10 ай бұрын

30-30 and 30-06 my favorite two caliber. With the green tip 30-06 never had any deer run off. All but one dropped where they was shot. One doe ran 10 yards.

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

I need to do some 30-06 tests.😎👍

@rob6850

10 ай бұрын

@@ToolsandTargetshave you seen the Bear Creek Huntmaster rifles? .30-'06 and the like in AR type package. Could be an interesting platform for you to test?

@nikos6220

10 ай бұрын

@@ToolsandTargets there are for sure some interesting tests to be had. I would start with a stark difference to get the camps exited and the comment section red hot 😂 - Copper Mono vs. Cup-and-Core, Barnes TTSX 150 grain vs. Hornady ELD-X 178 grain

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Haven't seen those. I have a Remington Woodsmaster in .30-06 @@rob6850

Terrific illustration of how similarly these cartridges perform. I see both of these in a ton of different calibres on the shelf here (NW Georgia) and have always suspected that they're pretty doggone similar. I'd love to see this comparison in .44 Mag, although I'm not sure it's available in Power Shock.

@ToolsandTargets

9 ай бұрын

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Another great jelly test Brotha ..

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Thank you sir.😎👊

It's Jelly time with the Jelly man!! 🤠

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

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I use federal blue box and fusion. Both great. I suspect the fusion and hammer down both use the fusion bullet. Marketing thing.

Those will get the job done! Jimmy Stewart would be proud!🤠

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

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Tools if you could hold a round that’s not fired up besides the fired bullet it would show the big difference buddy. Be safe GOD BLESS

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

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Eu gosto muito do 3030 , um tiro gosto de praticar. Aprecio muito seus vídeos 👏👏

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Obrigado, meu amigo. Ainda é um dos melhores calibres de ação de alavanca.😎👊

Not just a hunting round, but a fun plinking round.

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

Yep

Great video.. Would like to see what they would do in my TC Contender with 10" barrel.

@ToolsandTargets

10 ай бұрын

I almost bought a BFR in .30-30 not long ago.

Love the 30-30 . I deer hunt with it yearly. I would have no problem using either. I use 150

30-30 may be my favorite rifle round. I have have many others, but I just like 30-30 best