Bryan sounds like a therapist trying to help a patient realize they’re the problem.

@me131-yp9oo

Ай бұрын

Yes. Meltzer sounds like he is missing a screw

"if you take out the 18-49 number they're actually about the same!" Brother, that's like 95% of your audience.

@willdallas53

5 күн бұрын

It’s not which makes the money mark yelling about that number be so pathetic. That demo is only 20% of the audience.

After the playoffs it'll be "it's summer people aren't watching TV", then football season, then the holidays.

@DemonCore618

Ай бұрын

Then in the winter "economy is bad only rich people watch AEW"

@abramescamilla1293

Ай бұрын

And repeat

@SHADAF25

Ай бұрын

Then the new alcohol store down the alley.

@justinczech1489

Ай бұрын

It's hilarious "went against the playoffs" like the NBA doesn't do playoffs every year. Year over year you are down and it definitely hasn't been "over the last few weeks". Uncle Dave needs to stop spinning excuses because then TK grasps at it and nothing changes

@Am0ment0fB

Ай бұрын

Did you all forget it was a leap year? Aew can't compete with that. Ha.

Remember when the key demo was the only thing that mattered and now it's: "that's the only demo that's dropping so its not a big deal" lol

@omnientertainment5852

Ай бұрын

Yup. They bragged about the demos all year.

@sukhdeepbutty2399

Ай бұрын

Man your comprehension sucks.

@outlimboed

Ай бұрын

Yeah, it's madness.

@Behaving_Golem

Ай бұрын

Remember when you had a life and didn't obsess over something you claim to hate? Yeh me neither

@CoffeeStain-Music

Ай бұрын

@@Behaving_Golem What did I claim to hate? Since you know me and my life so well, please point out what I said I hated that you also think I'm obsessing over. All I know is when AEW was hot all I ever heard about was the "key demo" and how that was the most important thing and the only number that mattered and now Dave is handwaving it like "oh its just one demo don't worry".

Dave will never blame The Young Bucks

@AdrianBeegoatz

Ай бұрын

Meltzer is seriously delusional. All because the Buckaroos have convinced him that they are his friends. Same thing they did with Tony Khan. The Bucks continue to rake in tons of money on contract for jobs that they are not qualified for. All the while killing the company they work for, with their bad ideas, bad acting, and their awful influence which leads to actual big stars wanting to leave AEW.

@MADGUNSMONSTER

Ай бұрын

NEVER!!!

@stalfos3452

Ай бұрын

He will never admit that the Bucks are ratings poison. What sane person wants to see those 2.😅

@SanatoZen

Ай бұрын

Because they're actually the best part of the show. Dumbasses who don't watch shouldn't comment.

@doctorx45

Ай бұрын

Most AEW fans, myself included.

The issue...is....THE BOOKING.

@masonteague4039

Ай бұрын

Laaaazzzzyyyyyy boooookkkkiiinnggg

@duckmercy11

Ай бұрын

​@@masonteague4039 Like when Cornette booked a mummy? Or booked himself against a Ninja Turtle? Or turned away his audience booking inflammatory racial angles?

@al5306

Ай бұрын

@@duckmercy11 none of that has anything to do with what is happening right now in the present, genius. Stop getting your feelings hurt when people criticize AEW. No one is talking about the guy that has the number one wrestling podcast in the world. The topic is AEW.

@mrrobert9176

Ай бұрын

Dave would never admit it. He gets to hang and talk to his favorite wrestlers and booker/owner. He won’t ever give them a proper bury they deserve

@KairosObj

Ай бұрын

The bookin could use some work for sure. But this won't get better as long as TK refuses to let someone sniff the book.

Excuses are running thinner.

@jabrondestoroyah

Ай бұрын

If you have that much talent just sitting around and going to waste over shitty cheap looking production, bored mute crowds, deluded owner and terminally online fanbase of 100 something neckbeards. It'll be over soon as the gravy train hits the last station.

This is Dave's favorite type of wrestling. He'll never admit people dont care for it, it'll be admitting he was wrong.

@catchemcarlisle5655

Ай бұрын

Dave definitely gets off on telling people him saying ROH couldn’t fill out an arena is the reason this company started in the first place. He thinks he’s the captain and he will go down with his ship

@thedishonestjeffsokol2489

Ай бұрын

He's so "out of touch"

@doctorx45

Ай бұрын

"People don't care for it," pretty laughable assertation.

@youcantalwaysgetwhatyouwan8419

Ай бұрын

@@doctorx45 the ratings and attendance suggest it is hardly setting the world ablaze. Or breaking even for that matter

@doctorx45

Ай бұрын

@@youcantalwaysgetwhatyouwan8419 Ah yes, YOU certainly know how to fix things. Such smart and original advice.

Dave always dancing around the topic instead of just saying “18-49 viewers is declining because they’re telling you Dynamite in its current state is bad television right now.”

@jerrybarry3148

Ай бұрын

He’ll never admit that his favorite wrestlers, “friends”, and style of wrestling isn’t appealing to a wide audience

@duckmercy11

Ай бұрын

​@@jerrybarry3148 They are appealing to some extent, it's how aew got off the ground in the first place. 90% of the problems in that company stem back to TK's booking and management, both of which are trash.

The Bucks and Jack Perry are not over.

@doctorx45

Ай бұрын

Except they are? Maybe actually watch the show...

@cortext36

Ай бұрын

​@@doctorx45 that's the point.... Nobody is watching... And apparently nobody is going to the shows... This you know..

@bumpatrol6668

Ай бұрын

@@doctorx45keep convincing yourself lmao.

@realbammargera

Ай бұрын

​@@doctorx45 well no!

@BigmanDogs

Ай бұрын

@@doctorx45 By what metric?

The insecurity footage killed this company. It’s the finger poke of doom moment.

@jasonharrison5945

Ай бұрын

I never thought of it like that. But you made a great point

@miltongivens3005

Ай бұрын

They both tried to tiptoe around that. "There is something else going on."

@doctorx45

Ай бұрын

Except it didn't? Like at all?

@UnderwaterAlexJones

Ай бұрын

@@doctorx45 It didn't cause the ratings to crater? LOL thats a nice cope. Sneed harder.

@youcantalwaysgetwhatyouwan8419

Ай бұрын

@@doctorx45 it’s going to be in all the fall of aew documentaries. Just wait

AEW is down in viewership on youtube too.

@zachbrown1988

Ай бұрын

Shhh they don’t talk about that 😂

@Am0ment0fB

Ай бұрын

It's a leap year though. So, you can't look at KZread viewership and expect it to compete. Ha.

@BigmanDogs

Ай бұрын

@@Am0ment0fB People are cord cutting from youtube

@Aj6711

Ай бұрын

They won’t ever bring that up

@ResaleDojo

28 күн бұрын

Basketball highlights are driving it down…

Dave "everything is fine" Meltzer as the ratings and attendance numbers fall off a cliff.

It's the booking. It's crap...

@population-_-420

Ай бұрын

And yet u continue to watch Wednesday after Wednesday

@Darkcide-tl7kl

Ай бұрын

​@@population-_-420shoo man child

@kev30631

27 күн бұрын

Some seem to enjoy it.

@bobbyb5546

11 күн бұрын

@@kev30631A small some.

Dave got real angry once Bryan talked about Tony's booking. 😂😂😂😂

@RobertBaraheon

Ай бұрын

almost look like he book it instead of Tony😂

@mattb6616

Ай бұрын

The booking is terrible overall that should not be controversial. They have the roster and talent to succeed

@tomvu1470

Ай бұрын

@@mattb6616 Not when you have the Bucks & Jungle Whocares at the top (matters little if you have the roster) imho. Midcarders should not be pushed as main eventers.

@thedishonestjeffsokol2489

Ай бұрын

Dave's so out of touch

@zachbrown1988

Ай бұрын

@@thedishonestjeffsokol2489the irony being he railed on Cornette for being out of touch

The World Champion has been booked like a geek since he won the title, "Mega stars" have quickly become "just another guy" (which was always AEW's problem) and theres barely anything connecting the week to week shows. You could skip the next 3 weeks of TV and not lose any story development. Banger matches is fine in a bubble, but you need the thread of continuity to keep fans tuning in week in week out.

@AdrianBeegoatz

Ай бұрын

1,000%

@zachbrown1988

Ай бұрын

This is basically what Alvarez is trying to say but Dave constantly shouts him down with “all cable is down” 😂

@oliverbaker9812

Ай бұрын

These ‘banger’ matches also don’t appeal to a mainstream audience - they look too choreographed / fake.

@mrsquee9280

Ай бұрын

100% this right here

Which of the 18 titles is supposed to be the top title again?

@ericrobertson2581

Ай бұрын

The one Justin Bieber had.The Taz belt.

@TheSteveTell

Ай бұрын

There's not 18 titles,

@ericrobertson2581

Ай бұрын

@@TheSteveTell how many are there ?

@jenkind1

Ай бұрын

the one from a different company in a different country

Aew has a stigma. Indy guys who aren't tv calibre or old wwe guys who want a pay out. They are both true and it can't be shaken off

@rickgiles7955

Ай бұрын

Yea but Edge And Bryan Danielson are doing some of they're best wrestling matches recently

@dngn4774

Ай бұрын

@@rickgiles7955 If Edge and Danielson have the best matches of their career every week, sooner or later they just become other matches. There’s no build to anything regardless of the quality.

@deadlymixx

Ай бұрын

You can have good matches. Matches become great by adding build up to it while connecting with the fans, causing them to be invested into it. That’s where booking comes into play.

@blablablaa14

Ай бұрын

@@rickgiles7955 Who cares what they are doing? I've seen them for 20 years. I am not that interested in those guys anymore, I don't care what the "quality" of matches are

@al5306

Ай бұрын

@@rickgiles7955the matches aren’t great if people aren’t watching them

Jim Cornette was correct from day 1. Mark booking catering to a small niche indie crowd that will diminish over time

@decepticonxhunter4850

Ай бұрын

Cornette was also one of the ppl who jumped on the AEW bandwagon when the WWE talent wanted releases so they could go there.

@thedishonestjeffsokol2489

Ай бұрын

@@decepticonxhunter4850 as he's said a million times. he wanted AEW to succeed....he wanted genuine competition and an alternative to WWE that did pro wrestling and not sports entertainment. He's bitterly disappointed at the missed opportunity

@kev30631

27 күн бұрын

It had nothing to do with that. It was them losing Cody Rhodes and then cm punk. Period . full stop.

Issue is Tony Khan. His embarrassing antics made people not wanna associate themselves with the name AEW.

@random_vat

Ай бұрын

Part of the reason

@zachbrown1988

Ай бұрын

Calling wwe the Harvey Weinstein of wrestling when he has ric flair and Chris Jericho employed is the definition of tone deaf. You don’t have the high moral ground anymore Tony

@random_vat

Ай бұрын

@@zachbrown1988 what has Jericho done

@santanusk2853

Ай бұрын

@@random_vat Jericho is an embodiment of a walking stinking big piece of monkey crap. I was Team AEW for Wardlow Hobbs MJF even Takashita instead I get some of the biggest pieces of horse turd in the form of Jericho The Hardys. Add Ric Flair & now Mercedes. Tony turned AEW into what I got away from years ago.

@megatinmand5524

Ай бұрын

​@zachbrown1988 what was Jericho ever charged with? What was the court case?

So fun to watch Dave do mental gymnastics trying to justify the fall. Worth the view

AEW is building their entire program around a tag team that makes 10%+ of the audience change the channel, a Japanese wrestler that’s still very much an unknown to the vast majority of the American audience, and a small wrestler whose big claim to fame was nearly getting his ass kicked by the guy everyone wanted to tune in to watch weekly. This is a mystery why this isn’t working?

@mattb6616

Ай бұрын

lol. the flaws in the booking should be very obvious and easy to fix, but hey. whatever.

@oliverbaker9812

Ай бұрын

Tremendous.

Yes Dave the bucks ARE the problem. And maybe having a 50+ year old Copeland come out and beg viewers to watch and say "wrestling is cool" didn't help

@zachbrown1988

Ай бұрын

He literally left judgement day cause he didn’t want to be involved in supernatural angles only to wind up in a promotion where a sorceress magical mist is turning him evil

@WillS724

Ай бұрын

@zachbrown1988 lmao yes exactly

because if you miss a Dynamite and watch one 3 weeks later it doesn't feel you've missed anything

@KairosObj

Ай бұрын

Mainly coz there are some matches etc that are just in a vaccum for that particular episode. It's definitely an issue but wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't all over the shows.

People like Dave don’t understand that they are doing a lot of harm to AEW by never holding them accountable and making excuses for their shortcomings. They are never going to grow or survive if they don’t learn from their mistakes, and they have to know what mistakes they made.

When AEW was dominating 18-34 several years ago, Dave would only quote that number and say that WWE winning overall viewership didn’t matter because advertisers only look at 18-34. Now he suddenly cares about overall viewership when it argues in favor of AEW🤔

As long as Tony Khan continues to push the overpaid, overexposed, underperforming, & unqualified Young Bucks as main eventers in AEW (let alone real-life company executives with influence)… this place cannot be taken seriously as a quality wrestling company. It’s been 4 years already Tony… these guys aren’t it…🤦🏻‍♂️ Wake Up

@kev30631

27 күн бұрын

Don't forget the former Sasha Banks. Don't leave her

The show being bad is the problem. The minute the Bucks, Omega, Adam Page and Jack Perry got washed by Punk in one way or another and Tony didn’t capitalize on that and make money with it, that was it. They’re WCW 2.0 This is the same group that let Cody go. Cmon now. It’s only a matter of time David

@AdrianBeegoatz

Ай бұрын

Such a shame, too. Because there is so much potential in AEW… Real talent in that company that doesn’t get the chance to properly shine due to faulty ‘leadership’. And with the money of a billionaire behind it, this should be a true WCW 1996/97. But Tony Khan keeps backing the wrong horses from Cucamunga to lead. And we are left with this mess of a show 🤦🏻‍♂️

@duckmercy11

Ай бұрын

"Washed by Punk" you e drones are so delusional 😂

laughing and crying watching Alvarez desperately trying to teach Dave that the world title in a promotion should be treated as the most important thing on the show for the fans, and that if guys want to get treated seriously as top talent by the fans, they should be at least chasing that title.

It’s not the young bucks that have consistently chased off viewers for two years. How does anyone take Dave seriously when he says this? Why does Dave ignore all the stats?

People pay money to listen to this guy talk in circles?

@handsomelee9568

Ай бұрын

That surprises me as well. Dave can't complete a sentence.

@KM-ye3ij

Ай бұрын

Slim pickings. I’d rather listen to him then the dozens of 30 something year old British dudes

@handsomelee9568

Ай бұрын

@@KM-ye3ij hail the queen lol

@youcantalwaysgetwhatyouwan8419

Ай бұрын

I wish dave well. Listening to Jim Cornette verbally eviscerate him most weeks is so entertaining.

@zachbrown1988

Ай бұрын

Could never be me

"it's the same as WWE " FORGET WWE😂😂

@LordDomSnow

Ай бұрын

Has a point need to forget them and focus bc aew is in trouble we can delute ourselves all we want but the facts are the facts

@random_vat

Ай бұрын

This guy needs help. He can't get

@LordDomSnow

Ай бұрын

@Terri234 wwe is profitable more and more every year this whole “but wwe” shit don’t matter and dave enabling Tony and his bs ain’t helping aew it’s actually harmful. When wwe was trash everyone held there feet to the fire including dave you gotta hold aew feet to the fire so they can get better

David, listen, the key demo vanishes exactly when the Bucks are on the screen and then come back when they're gone. It's not that nuanced.

I think the problem in AEW is a combination of a bunch of reasons: 1)Cody Rhodes ,their founding member leaving & becoming the biggest babyface in their rival promotion 2)CM Punk leaving 3)5 hours of TV throughout the week(instead of earlier 3 hrs) causing a bit burnout 4) Increase in ticket prices 5) Marketing & Merchandise team being a bit underwhelming 6) Running the same markets and making it less must see and exhausting for that local audience 7) WWE booking & product becoming way better due to Vince McMahon's exit 8) Doing storylines based on niche Twitter audience too much and not even explaining it on TV making non hardcores confused at times 9) Tony Khan having to not only book 3 Aew TV shows,but also Ring Of Honor 10) Introduction of way to many championships 11) Losing the cool factor it had 2 years ago 12) Signing way too many wrestlers on the roster & trying to push many people at the same time 13) Wrestlers vanishing suddenly & coming back, causing the audience to forget about them at times 14)Not following up major storyline angles in a big way

@kev30631

27 күн бұрын

Your writing gospel. I agree with all your points 👍

Dave is such an AEW ball glazer lol I love AEW but I’m not blind to their struggles. Also I wish AEW AND Dave would stop bringing up WWE in AEW conversations

@anthonylucero6650

Ай бұрын

Screw AEW😒

@anthonylucero6650

Ай бұрын

AEW sucks😒

I try to support AEW but in recent times it just hasn't been good enough to watch regularly. I'm watching more football, F1 and IndyCar recently

@drobinson-uo7ic

Ай бұрын

The AEW diehards try to pretend that fans like you and I don't exist, fans who used to like AEW and are moving away from the product.

The booking has sucked for longer than 4 weeks.

@random_vat

Ай бұрын

The bookings actually been better in the last 4 weeks. I guess they chose the wrong time to bring in the Bucks Khan storyline

@mattb6616

Ай бұрын

@@random_vat the parts of the show that are disconnected from the bucks angles are good. but theyre ratings poison

@random_vat

Ай бұрын

@@mattb6616 agreed

@random_vat

Ай бұрын

@@mattb6616 I mean they have made a soup of the Edge Black storyline, horrible booking. Toni in a meaningless feud with Thunder, Deeb. The Bucks thing is good, Swerve thing is catching up. Rest is trash

Boy, Dave better hope those numbers bounce back up to 800k+ after the playoffs are over, or he's gonna look like a bit of a goof for saying the P2+ number is "completely normal" aside from the playoffs. We are about six weeks removed from Bryan telling people "not to panic" over a ~750k number because it wasn't a trend yet. I don't think AEW are going to "die" any time soon, but boy does it get tiring seeing Meltzer et al. doing these cartwheels every week to say things really aren't that bad actually. Tickets are down, buys for the last PPV were down, ratings are down... even YT views are down. And he never even talks about the fact that all of this is happening in a year in which they signed Okada, Ospreay and the former Sasha Banks to big money contracts to have the exact opposite influence on the numbers.

@AdrianBeegoatz

Ай бұрын

All due respect… Dave and these guys already look like goofs. They are barely catching up to all these issues, when loads of people have been pointing them out for years now. When there was STILL a chance to try and fix them before things got to this level. Once you lose the goodwill of the fans, it’s a lot harder to win them back.

Didnt dave say the last 2 years when aew was winning the demo is thats all that matters. Now he basically going back on that

@CockyBalboa

Ай бұрын

Yes, now it seem to be the exact opposite. What a 🤡.

@barrymccockiner773

Ай бұрын

Typical AEW fan behavior

The booking has done nothing to convince you the show is must see or can’t miss. Everything is inconsequential.

dave almost shed a tear when bryan started talking about the booking you could hear it in his voice he was offended by the mere suggestion tonys booking hasnt evolved

Dave will try to find. Every excuse in the book. To defend AEW ratings.

I'm part of the 18-49 demo, but stopped watching for two reasons that could be factors leading to the lower ratings - my free time is increasingly limited and I cancelled cable due to how expensive it is. I would still be watching their TV shows if not for those reasons regardless of the perception of the product.

@lillagahnavich7700

Ай бұрын

baby glove excuses, excuses

@BePatient888

Ай бұрын

A VPN plus AEW Plus on FITE TV for $7.99/month. Problem solved.

@duckmercy11

Ай бұрын

Do you watch KZread t clips? Cause those are down too.

They blamed the nba playoffs, and then Dave says how nba ratings are down this year.

It’s a terrible show and the Bucks aren’t over

@rj5822

Ай бұрын

You ain’t lying

@homework9102

Ай бұрын

Facts ong 💯

@V-ld9bw

Ай бұрын

Good point

@Behaving_Golem

Ай бұрын

These guys over here acting like WWE wasn't the worst kind of garbage for multiple years.

@HeavenUpsideDown

Ай бұрын

Lol, OK

I’m 31, I find myself rolling my eyes more and more at AEW. It feels stale because it’s the same people doing the same thing almost every week and I honestly could care less because I’m not invested in the characters.

"Whats changed in the last 4 weeks? The bucks? No no no its not them. Perhaps. No no no theyre not the whole show." Bruh.

@zachbrown1988

Ай бұрын

All I know is I change the channel when I see them. I feel like most people do

Tony khan (Wearing a hot dog suit while booking the NWO if they looked like middle schoolers, his two new male gamechangers as mid-carders, his top female gamechanger to never do the only thing she’s good at and wrestle, and his AEW world champion on an island) - “We’re all trying to find the guy who did this”

@CockyBalboa

Ай бұрын

Honestly she has never really been that good in the ring either, she has botches in every match she’s in. Also two of the worst to ever happen when she put all her weight behind a double kick to the base of Paige’s neck breaking her spine and causing temporary paralysis on the entire left side of her body and go blind in her left eye, then her slipping off the rope and shattering her ankle to the point it needed reconstructive surgery and retrieved the recommendation of retirement from her Dr.’s

So Dave’s also going to ignore the empty seats too?

Dave: “this is just one age group” Also Dave previously when they were doing well in the demo: “this is the only age group that matters”

The booking for Swerve has been atrocious since he won the title. The company treats him like a mid-card champion, because he might as well be with the Bucks and Okada taking up screen time.

How do you talk for almost 18 mins without mentioning that the show is terrible? That’s why they’re hitting record lows in viewership, demo, and attendance.

Thier is nothing weird on the ratings drop. The booking is horrific, they are pushing the wrong people. Isn’t it obvious? Dave keeps refusing to believe that. Lol

They will never admit it’s a bad show! And that Bucks angle is not working at all! There’s no real continuity to anything, just random people wrestling randomly. Tony is a horrible booker. Dave just won’t admit it

@stacymirba1433

Ай бұрын

In fairness, Bryan does take AEW to task when he's with Vinny. He's a completely different guy when he's not constantly interrupted.

@outlimboed

Ай бұрын

@@stacymirba1433 Yeah, Bryan's starting to turn babyface with me again recently after his post-Brawl Out heel turn. He's capable of being honest about at least some of AEW's issues

@mattb6616

Ай бұрын

the bucks angle is such a confused and inconsistent bomb

@kev30631

27 күн бұрын

It's not working because he didn't listen to the online fans that were giving him better ideas fir free

When are they going to admit that the bucks and Jericho are a turn off? I know they are their “friends” but as “reporters” it’s not that difficult to understand why people are turning off the show and not coming back.

That Freaking Melzer is Full of Sh.. How could he still defend that promotion so much

@CockyBalboa

Ай бұрын

He’s probably lying to himself as much as he is to everyone else.

What’s crazy is how much Dave insulted WCW for its shortcomings but looks the other way when AEW is doing the EXACT same thing.

The NBA, the NHL, and the new gas station that opened down the street

Tony needs to be removed as head booker immediately and they need to give the book to Scott D'amore , and the bucks need to be stripped of their EVP titles and creative control

No, they have a Tony Khan problem, a young bucks problem, a Jack Perry problem, an Orange Cassidy problem, a Chris Jericho problem.

@theb3654

Ай бұрын

When I still watched AEW all those guys made me change the channel immediately

Yes, they do have a problem. The booking is terrible, they have no idea how to create a star or get people over, and nobody cares about the bucks or jack perry, it's not that difficult to figure out but these two will keep creating excuses to protect Tony's feelings.

Young Bucks are a huge problem. Random "dream matches" with no story is a problem. Unknown wrestlers from other promotions wrestling on TV without buildup is a problem. But Tony Khan booking is the main problem

@oliverbaker9812

Ай бұрын

Dream matches for who?

Dave almost admitted to an AEW problem, he was close, but it wouldn’t be a KZread clip without AEW excuses…it just can’t be an error AEW has made, as in his mind it’s the better wrestling show. So it can do no wrong.

Thanks guys

I'm probably an anomaly but I'm in that age bracket and I started watching AEW because New Japan was starting to get so stale and I was sick of every match needing to be "epic". Now all the worst guys from NJPW are in AEW (Ospreay, White, Juice, Ibushi, Fletcher) and a lot of them are getting big pushes. I liked the idea that investing your time long-term as an AEW fan meant you would start to get to see their own guys rise to the top. Other than MJF they haven't let that happen -- the fact Moxley has three world title reigns and Darby has zero speaks to this issue. It's hard to fully support a company that is constantly undercutting its own identity.

@westsidera97

Ай бұрын

I saw a guy get flipped by another guy's penis after being carried out by penis druids that was the first time I saw any AEW at a friend's house I knew then it wasn't going to get any better so I've never never bothered to watch it again outside of clips.

I think what's happened is that after two and a half years of repeatedly pointing out the problems with the presentation of the characters and stories, people are finally, really, disconnecting from the product. Repeatedly and stubbornly putting the best match on first, frantic builds the last two weeks before a PPV because they spent months doing nothing, releasing AEW original talent for rentals, having too many belts, featuring non-AEW stars week after week, lack of vignettes to build characters and stories, and most of all, chaotic hot/cold booking, the valid AEW criticisms mostly came from those of us who wanted AEW to succeed. People are probably just deciding that nothing is going to change, and moving on.

9:33 dave sounded like a hound dog 😂😂😂.

The fact is,is that the honeymoon stage is over, when they started the fans were dying for something else, they hated Vince and his repetitive cheesey product, and were willing to accept anything being competitive, and now Vince is gone, the WWE is cool again and Tony Khan and also Dave have completely nerded wrestling out so badly that it's starting to catch up

TK's decision to air the CM punk footage happened just over 4 weeks ago. I was starting to get tired of the booking, but that decision really soured me on the product. I don't even like CM punk, but that decision just made TK look immature and incompetent, like something a kid would do. I still watch because all my favourite wrestlers happen to be signed there, but I can definitely see myself turning it off soon if things don't pick up. I don't have faith in TK's ability to book anymore. If he is able to sign all the big names he should be able to hire a competent booker.

Daves face looks like a Halloween sprit store mask😂😂😂

Pretty narcissistic to think the Bucks were over enough to suddenly become roughshod top heels. They literally didn't do anything for a couple years, and clearly don't have the size or look to be taken seriously as top heels. And maybe Jungle Boy could take down that hair bun and stop blowing the greatest opportunity he might ever receive in wrestling.

@decepticonxhunter4850

Ай бұрын

Imo, the fact that the Bucks took it upon themselves to become the top heels is an indictment on the other heel factions for not getting any real heat or doing a good job at making ppl be emotionally invested in their feuds.

Too many wrestlers, too many belts. AEW was more over with a quarter of their roster. Remember the 4 pillars, remember when the show felt like it had direction cause they booked the whole show around a strong group of 10 wrestlers that you could follow and get invested in? Now they have a rotating group of like 40 wrestlers that they cycle through and they all wrestle the New Japan style and they're all given 15-20 minutes and none of it matters! Undisputed Kingdom was at the center of the largest storyline AEW had all last spring, summer, and fall and that stable is barely featured and there's zero continuity to their appearances

@97ECW

Ай бұрын

Undisputed Kingdom being a top faction fell apart when cole clearly wasn't coming back in ring any time soon,Also they didn't even exist last summer or fall they formed in December.Only 2 of the 4 pillars were stars at the time and that's MJF and Darby,Jack and Sammy were not a their level back then.The show has more direction now than ever when they have monthly PPVs to focus TVs and a third tv show now too with Collision.If you think all AEW wrestlers wrestle strong style idk what to tell you but they don't lol.

@HenrySchecker

Ай бұрын

@@97ECW so in your mind AEW doesn't have a problem? Cause it reads like you completely missed the point

@97ECW

Ай бұрын

@@HenrySchecker The only thing out of what you said that's an actual issue is too many championships,The continental and international should be merged and the FTW title should go away after this HOOK/Jericho feud is over.

@normaningemann3868

Ай бұрын

Yea it’s too many belts! I can’t keep up with it!

@decepticonxhunter4850

Ай бұрын

The amount of belts is only an issue because it highlights how bad the booking is.

Dave still finding excuses is honestly embarassing.

1-The match outcomes are predictable, so there’s no tension or drama in them. You always know who will win/lose. 2- Theres no interesting storylines. 3- The Bucks (main heels now) are cringe, and very bad at what they do.

No one can say definitively for sure, in terms of unless you're actually there, no one can say what the legitimate issue is I do have some reasonable suggestions though, as to what the issues could be leading to this overall issue From a creative standpoint, the issue seems to be pretty obvious. Tony began booking shows like Vince has the last several years announcing one or two matches most of the time one, essentially right from the beginning of the pay-per-view build time frame, and then throwing a bunch of last minute matches together, within 2 weeks or less of the upcoming Pay-Per-View event. This trend started going into the pay-per-view where the was a match with Adam Cole, and Adam Hangman Page. Starting with that card, that's where the overall booking issues, the long-term booking issues with Tony's company truly became apparent, and sadly became locked in to where we are now, creatively speaking that is Yes they were storyline mismanagement before, but prior to that specific pay-per-view, they were individual occurrences. Sense that pay-per-view, these booking issues are systemic. Tony claimed he would never operate a program that way, he claimed he would learn from the competition's mistakes now he makes them weekly. Tony also claimed he would utilize his performance better than Vince had, specifically within the last few years... Tony implied more than once going into the creation of his company, that the state of WWE the state of the industry as a whole pretty well as he saw it, that's why he got into the wrestling space in the first place.. Tony stated multiple times that, he would never make mistakes that WWE had in recent years, when it came to creative, and the overall use, and or, misuse of talent... Being bluntly honest Tony has pretty well failed spectacularly on both counts, for at least 2 years now, and Counting.... The bottom line when it comes to all that is, when you promise to be different than, you have to be different than.... If you become what you oppose, and in fact do so, worse than even your competitor competitor had previously, well then, you're seen as an even greater hypocrite... Which then makes you worse then the other in a lot of people's eyes going forward, until, or unless positive change, begins to take place... Which to this point, certainly not enough positive change, certainly not enough yet has taken place... Unless that changes long-term, Tony & Company, they'll likely still struggle significantly in key area's, in both key areas of their business, and the on-screen product as well... Couple all of that, with all the behind-the-scenes issue's of the last couple years, including the last couple months... More specifically,to all that backstage drama,, take into account, how nothing was properly handled in a reasonable manner whatsoever.... Stating that all of it, was unprofessional, immature, daycare like, and then some, stating all of that, that's just being bluntly honest... It's genuinely been embarrassing to watch all of this unfold quite frankly, it's wholly embarrassing.... Couple all this backstage drama with everything else that I've referenced, and I would suggest, that it's obvious why, why Tony's company is in the shape that it's in currently, as sad as that is to say..... It's just a shame all the way around.... Lastly Dave, make up your mind. Are the ratings, and attendance, are they problematic, or are they not? You can't have it both ways it's either a problem, or it's not.... Genuinely, stop talking out of both sides of your mouth it's not an either or scenario... It's one or the other, stop with the flip-flopping already..... Here, I will help you out, by stating the obvious.... Yes the ratings are pathetic, they can't even beat Raw on a good day, the overwhelming majority of the time.... Not to mention, their attendance, it's even worse than that, and has been for a good while now... To that particular part of the spectrum, I wouldn't be surprised, if the attendance and rating's issue's, I wouldn't be surprised, if both were directly linked to everything I've listed previously above.... Honestly, I would not be surprised in the least, if that were indeed the case..... I would be shocked actually, truth be told, I would be shocked if it were not ... I would be shocked, if at least on some level, I would be shocked, if at least on one level, I would be shocked, if I wasn't right to some degree at least anyway.... It all seem's rather logical, so I mean.... Far more logical than anything Dave and his fence sitting approach is attempting to convey anyway, so at least, there's that..... Here's an idea Dave, actually be a journalist. Stop being a would-be, fence sitting would be politician.... How about you stop being a would-be politician, with a gossip rag, and actually do, your alleged vocation How about you actually do that for once, Dave & Company, how about you consider doing that finally.... Genuinely, spare us this nonsensical jargon from now on please..... Just do your actual job's from now on please....

If THIS platform is speaking badly i.e. TRUTHFULLY about AEW, you KNOW they're in bad shape creatively.

@ericrobertson2581

Ай бұрын

Fonzie really wants to leap over than coke snorting shark.

Tony Khan is a terrible booker who produces wrestling television that is not appealing to an American viewing audience. Blaming sports playoffs has always been a weak excuse

Most AEW fans I knew used to faithfully defend AEW, that was 2 years ago, fast forward today, they told me it's not possible to defend AEW any longer, Tony Khan repeatedly making dumb immature comments every month, The Bucks, Hangman and Jungle Boy's toxic indierific Recida childishness have exposed them as a company impossible to defend.

I hope when I’m 64 I look more like Jim than Dave 🤞

I don’t think it helped when the Bucks lost to Sting in his retirement match and then went on to win the tag titles anyway.

The big angle in AEW is the Young Bucks. For 2 straight years, basically every Young Bucks segment has cratered in the ratings. But lets not see a correlation here

This is 17 minutes of excuses and coping. Also known as top tier journalism.

In words of jim cornette Lazy booking!!!!

Crazy how so many people take time out of their way to watch these videos and expose themselves in the comments. It's like people are allergic to listening, learning, growing.

“Aside from 18-34 there’s not even a drop” is wild

There are no characters or personalities that people can relate to unlike during the WWE attitude era. The problem with the Bucks is that most fans would not be intimidated by them in a real life altercation. Outside of MJF and Toni Storm, nobody is really into character development. The AEW crowd and fanbase doesn't help either.

As a Brit, why is the 18-49 demo so important? How do they even know the ages of everyone watching?

@josephcooke4678

Ай бұрын

As an American I always ask the same question how do they know who's actually watching? Is my 23 year old son watching am I watching? They have no way of knowing

@josephcooke4678

Ай бұрын

Advertisers think that those are the people who spend their money. I guess people who are over 50 don't spend money

This is the same guy who said Osprey, Okada, and Sasha were going to draw big. It doesnt matter who you have when the booking and shows are bad. Plain and simple. 2000 Wcw was bad also and they had big names. BOOKING is the common theme here

This video gets 2.0 stars!!!!

@yoshbennett8637

Ай бұрын

Could've been 5 but not in Tokyo Dome

Look at last year's ratings around this time 💀 It's not a 4 week thing Dave

Here is a simple explanation of the difference in quality of Booking. Kazuchika Okada, who is being paid 10 times the money and is 10 times the star that Tama Tonga is, seems like a smaller star than Tama Tonga right now. Tama is straight away inserted into a storyline woth KO and Randy, 2 top stars. Okada is looking like a lackey to the Bucks and just doing good matches

@oliverbaker9812

Ай бұрын

Ocody.

They are saying that because the playoffs are on, that's the reason that the ratings are down. Its because the product is absolutely shitty. And they think its because of other sports 🤦

Didn't Jericho have an entire gimmick based around the demo because of Meltzer saying it was the important part of ratings?

@bradleyminoski2020

9 күн бұрын

“The Demo God”

Dave just can’t admit that the Bucks and Jack Perry just cant draw. He literally seems to spend most of the conversation mumbling out justifications and excuses. What’s the excuse going to be once the playoffs end? “Nobody’s watching because of Summer” “Nobody’s watching because of Football season” “ Nobody’s watching because of the holidays” AEW desperately needs a focused episodic direction.

Numbers are down because they have no stats right now. Big draws are hurt and Mox is buys being IWGP champ which is cool but come on. Swerve deserves so much more of a bigger deal for being champ

Dave “Everything Is Fine 🔥” Meltzer 🤪

When the comments section here read like the comments section on Jim Cornette's channel did a year ago, you know something has gone horribly wrong.

@littleCarmine

Ай бұрын

Corny has been saying all this since day 1

@johnnychopping3655

Ай бұрын

@@littleCarmine he wasn't the only one. I think we all tolerated a lot for a long time because we were so desperate for a company not named WWE to succeed. Now though it seems like the AEW Stan's are even giving up.

Uncle Dave rambles in circles

Iv actually stopped watching aew and wwe. Just watch clips on KZread now.

AEW will never grown beyond its niche audience. That has been proven over five years. The only person to increase merchandise, interest and viewers was fired; while the rest of the circus works once or twice a month and gets checks. AEW is Wrestling Make A Wish for wrestlers.