Advice for Christians in the Coming Decade? | Doug Wilson

This week on Ask Doug, Doug Wilson answers a follow-up to last week's question about postmillennialism: Do you have any advice for Christians in the coming decade?
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  • @jsimo1431
    @jsimo14313 жыл бұрын

    i lost every friend i ever had over a 2 year period. my drinking buddies. knew these people for over 25 years. but at the same time i was falling into the arms of God without knowing it. something inside of me needed God. yearned for God. He definitely works in mysterious ways. it's lonely, but worth every second!

  • @triffinaunderwood1236

    @triffinaunderwood1236

    3 жыл бұрын

    God Bless you Brother - you are on the right path-keep your eyes on our Heavenly Father ❣️

  • @jsimo1431

    @jsimo1431

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@triffinaunderwood1236 thank you. God bless you and your loved ones.

  • @barlowpenny

    @barlowpenny

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well definitely can say I have recently been losing all my friends for taking a stand agaimst mormonism to friends that are swingers and telling them its a sin. It is lonely. But I had to obey God and warn them. And I'm known with these two groups as being a prude!! And incorrect on the gospel.

  • @lynnv8501

    @lynnv8501

    3 жыл бұрын

    Indeed it is lonely at times to walk the road less traveled. I've learned to walk with God there though. Nothing can replace that. You don't need the drinking buddies.

  • @dnews9519

    @dnews9519

    3 жыл бұрын

    Always remember, Broad is the path that leads to destruction and many go there. Straight is the gate and narrow is the way to Salvation and few find it.

  • @jonyoung6405
    @jonyoung64053 жыл бұрын

    “ Find a church with. spine”. Now that is task .

  • @lovealwayz950

    @lovealwayz950

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, that's sadly very tough...

  • @keithwilson6060

    @keithwilson6060

    3 жыл бұрын

    Even in a large city, this is difficult.

  • @blessingsfromheaven8445

    @blessingsfromheaven8445

    3 жыл бұрын

    The refusal to wear The mask is a start

  • @fokyewtoob8835

    @fokyewtoob8835

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don’t even know where to look it’s so scarce

  • @democratpro

    @democratpro

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@keithwilson6060 you mean "especially in a large city". Are you people really that oblivious? Don't answer that mask/vaxx boy

  • @long2baproverbs31woman2
    @long2baproverbs31woman23 жыл бұрын

    “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."- Ephesians 6:12, KJV

  • @aimeeb2820

    @aimeeb2820

    3 жыл бұрын

    Amen 🙏

  • @matthewjason6992

    @matthewjason6992

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m not entirely sure the pastor made that clear.

  • @consciousgentile5141

    @consciousgentile5141

    3 жыл бұрын

    Satan can't do a damn thing without FLESH AND BLOOD creatures eager to serve him.

  • @Odo-so8pj

    @Odo-so8pj

    3 жыл бұрын

    Rulers tend to worship satan.

  • @scotttheo3711

    @scotttheo3711

    3 жыл бұрын

    Zionist Christians are to blame!!! The people Who kiilled Christ are destroying our society. Wake up!

  • @dnzswithwombats
    @dnzswithwombats3 жыл бұрын

    "A church with a spine." Exactly. Be bold and courageous. So many fear everything except God. Many fear offending people more than fearing offending God.

  • @kimsteinke713

    @kimsteinke713

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah you're battle congratulations your battle is your brother and you don't even say why keep the Battle of courageous victory let's go to war war and it sounds like the devil to me. Are a bunch of afraid men. you can't tell the truth to save their spine at the cost of little children dying and being translating of the Bible and stigmatizing people stop it fascist it's about control and power you can't let go and let God be God Amen 🙏

  • @bjones5791

    @bjones5791

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kimsteinke713 That made no sense,Kim.You need to reread your thought before putting it up so you don't look like a rambling idiot.I'm SURE you have enough intelligence to put a sentence together.Love ya!..Brent

  • @Bibleguy89-uu3nr

    @Bibleguy89-uu3nr

    3 жыл бұрын

    So true. Of all the churches in our area we are the only church who never stopped meeting during the pandemic in our entire county. Not to mention, there are very very few that haven't gone woke.

  • @c.s.froggis9982

    @c.s.froggis9982

    3 жыл бұрын

    well said

  • @kimsteinke713

    @kimsteinke713

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bjones5791 I'll debate you any day Brent Jones let's go is that clear enough for your man with the spine come on I will debate with you any day Big Man on campus woohoo picking on little children cuz you can't come out of your closet. ❤️🙄

  • @terrygibbs6899
    @terrygibbs68993 жыл бұрын

    Put on the whole armor of GOD and stand not in our own power, but in the power of the HOLY SPIRIT.

  • @achukagirma1131

    @achukagirma1131

    3 жыл бұрын

    God Bless you in the MIGHTY NAME OF JESUS CHRIST

  • @jonberger2057

    @jonberger2057

    3 жыл бұрын

    @ONLY FUTURE SUMMER 2!! stop projecting

  • @hacunamatata6802

    @hacunamatata6802

    3 жыл бұрын

    Open your mouth and rebuke the wicked to their face! In the name of Jesus!

  • @watchinglistening101

    @watchinglistening101

    3 жыл бұрын

    AMEN!!! 🇺🇸

  • @denastever2110

    @denastever2110

    3 жыл бұрын

    Amen!!👍

  • @kenwood2460
    @kenwood24603 жыл бұрын

    This is exactly what my wife and I did. We relocated from Massachusetts to Kansas. Now we go to a church that has a huge spine and takes a stand for truth and the gospel. Bennington Bible Church in Kansas.

  • @Dreadboi1990

    @Dreadboi1990

    3 жыл бұрын

    Don't rely on the church rely on the word of Yah. The church has lead many ppl astray

  • @jm1733

    @jm1733

    3 жыл бұрын

    Its still a synagogue of satan. There is not a church in Kansas or anywhere else that knows the Father. I don't care who your pastor is, it isn't the Good Shepherd. Christ IN you is the only source of truth. He is the only pastor, shepherd that understands the scriptures. He is the only one with sound doctrine. You can keep heaping teachers on your head but you will just be turned unto fables. Christ IN you is your only hope of salvation and perfection. This is the narrow path that few find that leads to righteousness. Your temple made with hands is a harlots house and the dead are there. The carnally minded who are tossed to and fro by every wind of doctrine. You can't eat from the table of the Lord and the table of devils. Those things the gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils. Come out of Babylon and flee fornication.

  • @krb7694

    @krb7694

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great idea Ken!

  • @pigjubby1

    @pigjubby1

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have debated moving from California. My pastor said something that makes me question leaving. He always says "our job is to get people into the life boats." And as I see it, California is the greatest sinking boat there is. There are few places that need people being pulled into the life boats more than here. Most of my whole family is lost. I struggle with fleeing or staying. I pray for God's guidance in this time before I retire.

  • @myrajackson-rain5483

    @myrajackson-rain5483

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@pigjubby1 Two of my favorite pastors are in CA... Mike Winger (Bible Thinker) and David Jeremiah... God bless you in your faith and courage...I am in a similar circumstance... linking arms with you in love and standing firm...stay safe and well...

  • @Imputationist
    @Imputationist3 жыл бұрын

    I agree with these points. I would only add...as you find a church with a spine, work out your salvation with fear and trembling so as to be sure that you too, Christian, have a spine yourself, (I include myself in this point I’m making). Even if Idaho is good a place to go today, doesn’t mean it will be in 20 years. Christians, with a spine, need to be every where there are people.

  • @fokyewtoob8835

    @fokyewtoob8835

    3 жыл бұрын

    This right here. I hear everybody talking about “move here, move over there, leave the cities, run, flee, escape” and really what we should be doing as Christians is growing a spine as children of GOD ALMIGHTY and stand our damn ground where ever we may be and speak the TRUTH and be BOLD

  • @mattroth3359

    @mattroth3359

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wise and well-said.

  • @pigjubby1

    @pigjubby1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes. Our intentions cannot be enough. Our actions must be in line.

  • @jackp492

    @jackp492

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree Jesus didn't come to call the righteous but sinners, so you gotta be where the sinners are and be on thier level so they can see you as equal and understand you, if your not in their world you'll never reach them

  • @myrajackson-rain5483

    @myrajackson-rain5483

    3 жыл бұрын

    Idaho is downwind of Hanford, WA, so any seismic activity in the Cascades will affect Idaho severely... you are right in standing... simply standing in Scripture, arms and hearts linked with the Holy Spirit AND your brothers and sisters in Christ...

  • @johnprentice1474
    @johnprentice14743 жыл бұрын

    The further the lunatics go, the stronger my faith gets. I know I'm not the only one either. Everyone remember that the Church flourishes under persecution.

  • @jl8138
    @jl81383 жыл бұрын

    Advice in the coming decade: start by finding you a church that isn't built on one person's cult of personality.

  • @JCSJesusChristSaves

    @JCSJesusChristSaves

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or do what Jesus did and hold church everywhere you go. You dont need a recognized church that has already bowed down to the federal government by filing a 503c. Under US law, churches are non taxable period, asking the government for a 503c exemption just let's the government get involved in your messagr.

  • @adamwoodie4029

    @adamwoodie4029

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@JCSJesusChristSaves Yes!

  • @christinsongbird

    @christinsongbird

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Texas Eastern Orthodox ??

  • @carolineoates5964

    @carolineoates5964

    3 жыл бұрын

    Amen. Just left one like this.

  • @davehartley2131

    @davehartley2131

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or find one that's overtly aggressive instead of passively so.

  • @ryanhopkins7674
    @ryanhopkins76743 жыл бұрын

    Don’t worry about anything people may say or do to you because of your faith. There is a greater reward in heaven waiting for you! Jesus loves you!!!!!

  • @peggyferder8834

    @peggyferder8834

    3 жыл бұрын

    Amen

  • @fishchick72

    @fishchick72

    3 жыл бұрын

    Can’t recall the reference but there’s a verse telling us to not fear those who can harm your body but not your soul.

  • @ruthaakamonica5602

    @ruthaakamonica5602

    3 жыл бұрын

    Who cares about Heaven when what we have at hand is all that matters

  • @fishchick72

    @fishchick72

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ruthaakamonica5602 because what we have at hand is NOT what matters-eternity & where you choose to spend it is what matters.

  • @karll977

    @karll977

    2 жыл бұрын

    What reward?

  • @markandrew1885
    @markandrew18853 жыл бұрын

    This is the first person I've seen who is able to correctly articulate what is happening right now.

  • @neilhorsley343

    @neilhorsley343

    3 жыл бұрын

    Your watching us then

  • @NEMO-NEMO

    @NEMO-NEMO

    3 жыл бұрын

    Try watching Walter Veith. Ha has been shouting it from the rooftops for years. The Hegelian Dialect uses two parts, pitted up against one another until its impossible to ignore. Forcing both sides to a resolution, which was the intent in the first place. The resolution is the hidden agenda, The hidden players The lies The middle is the complete loss of freedom! And all will follow after the Beast.

  • @rebeccamcfadden365

    @rebeccamcfadden365

    3 жыл бұрын

    R. Loren Sandford, New Song Church and Ministries in Denver, Colorado. Great spine.

  • @darnellpistachio2991

    @darnellpistachio2991

    3 жыл бұрын

    Interesting profile pic Mark Andrew

  • @neilhorsley343

    @neilhorsley343

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@darnellpistachio2991 so as to keep watch on you mate haha

  • @carlostriana7557
    @carlostriana75573 жыл бұрын

    How have I never heard this man speak?! So put together and hits issues right between the eyes. Very encouraging!

  • @peterprandel4669

    @peterprandel4669

    3 жыл бұрын

    censorship and promoting unlogical things is destroying almost every western society now...

  • @rightsidecrossrev
    @rightsidecrossrev3 жыл бұрын

    Came to Boise from Silicone Valley last July during the wu-flu sham. Now I can attend church, carry a gun and patronize establishments mask free. Thank God for Idaho.

  • @Hangtime37
    @Hangtime373 жыл бұрын

    Why am I just finding this channel? Gold content

  • @jessetoler1032
    @jessetoler10323 жыл бұрын

    As a former Marine, the quote was, "Marines don't retreat, we attack in the opposite direction!" Or at least that's the way I remember it.

  • @sam65617
    @sam656173 жыл бұрын

    Im here behind enemy lines in Orange county , the resistance is alive and well

  • @myrajackson-rain5483

    @myrajackson-rain5483

    3 жыл бұрын

    You are not alone. Be as prepared with basic necessities as you can, be ever listening to the Holy Spirit... do not doubt... or be afraid... you are not alone... one woman removed prayer from our schools... one true Christ follower can move mountains...

  • @bh613

    @bh613

    3 жыл бұрын

    God bless and keep you dear Christ focused friend. Jesus paid it all on the cross. Matthew 28:18 -20

  • @mrs.garcia6978

    @mrs.garcia6978

    3 ай бұрын

    How is it today?

  • @derekreedball
    @derekreedball3 жыл бұрын

    “Crazy... is not sustainable”

  • @richardthenryvideos

    @richardthenryvideos

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nope. No its not.

  • @CanonPress

    @CanonPress

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's true!

  • @Cinnamonbuns13

    @Cinnamonbuns13

    3 жыл бұрын

    A Righteous "Natural selection" so to speak.

  • @Artur-hg1qg

    @Artur-hg1qg

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Cinnamonbuns13 LMFAO

  • @johnkoenig326

    @johnkoenig326

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sure it is, unfortunately. Religions have been sustaining themselves and expanding for centuries.

  • @duncescotus2342
    @duncescotus23423 жыл бұрын

    A few commenters latched on to a classic Wilsonian nugget of a phrase, "Church with a spine." Typical of Doug, humorous, astute, gently persuasive, fatherly, all of those kinds of things. He himself, a glorious asset to the Kingdom. I affirm that. Love the man. I don't love his Calvinism. It's holding him back from true effectiveness. Pray for him, people of God.

  • @OhioCoastie94
    @OhioCoastie943 жыл бұрын

    Hear, hear. The more I read and watch from reformers like Doug, the more resolute I become.

  • @Chirhopher

    @Chirhopher

    11 ай бұрын

    Shema Shema oh Israel

  • @davechang2949
    @davechang29493 жыл бұрын

    You are the church ,your body is the temple for the HOLY SPIRIT to dwell in -be true and holy and GOD bless you all in JESUS'S name, AMEN

  • @watchwatchers117

    @watchwatchers117

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also means we don't have to go to Church to be saved most Churches don't help anyone but themselves and there Cult members by ripping off the poor gee I wonder who's really gonna go to Hell🤔

  • @patrickmalec8419
    @patrickmalec84193 жыл бұрын

    When the state of things are so bad that he has to compare us to North Korea saying, “...it’s a totalitarian state, but it’s not a looney bin...”

  • @BrokTheLoneWolf
    @BrokTheLoneWolf3 жыл бұрын

    “We’re not debating with someone who thinks that guys are girls. We’re debating with those who think you are a girl” 🤣😂 legend.

  • @kate60

    @kate60

    3 жыл бұрын

    So true. Truth is funny!

  • @DwjPHS

    @DwjPHS

    3 жыл бұрын

    Some " girls" have more courage than many boys i know

  • @BrokTheLoneWolf

    @BrokTheLoneWolf

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DwjPHS that’s sad. On the boys part.

  • @MoiLiberty

    @MoiLiberty

    3 жыл бұрын

    Women are the space of possibility, the mystery out of which both sinson and sinless are born on earth which may conquer death for our salvation that opens with the right question. Man must accept and submit to God's Will, and accept his Love in order discover the new space of possibility, the mystery, by aiming and striking the right question at the right time, in the right place. Saying you are a girl is not to say a girl in the earthly material resolution, that is a misunderstanding. Saying you are a girl means you are only possibility and have no ability to bring forth to the world the image of God which conquconquers and brings forth salvation through the infinite love of God. Maybe it makes sense that way? Remember, this is a spiritual representation of chaos and order, heaven and earth, land and ocean, fish and birds, the flood and the tower of Babel, day and night, microcosm and macrocosm.

  • @watchwatchers117

    @watchwatchers117

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DwjPHS "girls" are mostly terrified cowards, they hide and hope someone good will find them, never gonna happen. Equally important for both to put in the work. Equal rights equal responsibilities get ta breaking that ice.

  • @julesfalcone
    @julesfalcone2 жыл бұрын

    "We need to be done with the charade of secularism." I've been done with it. I encourage everyone to totally reject it.

  • @wet-read

    @wet-read

    7 ай бұрын

    What charade is that, exactly? And do you think other factors are not or couldn't be at work for some troubling or strange or hard to understand phenomena?

  • @julesfalcone

    @julesfalcone

    7 ай бұрын

    @@wet-read What about: "I've been done with it I encourage everyone to totally reject it." Don't you comprehend?

  • @wet-read

    @wet-read

    7 ай бұрын

    @@julesfalcone I'm just curious what exactly about it you have a beef with. If you don't want to tell me, I'll just bounce.

  • @chrisc9611
    @chrisc96112 жыл бұрын

    “What they are trying to convince us of is their right to tell us what is truth”. Well said. In a nutshell. The absurdity boils down to this deception.

  • @davidhess1019
    @davidhess10193 жыл бұрын

    This is the correct analysis of our situation. You can identify as a kangaroo but you can't force me to agree with you.

  • @MonaLisa-lu8zi

    @MonaLisa-lu8zi

    3 жыл бұрын

    People with conditions such as Alzheimers might say "I want to go home" even though they are at home. It was often considered best, rather than amplify any cerebral irrigation or aggression, one should agree. This had the affect of dissipation. Now, I have decided I will have to change my responses. 🤔

  • @davidhess1019

    @davidhess1019

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MonaLisa-lu8zi But these people want to change our language in order to legitimize their inclinations. I'm sorry....they cannot force the whole world to add pronouns just to legitimize their compulsions.

  • @MonaLisa-lu8zi

    @MonaLisa-lu8zi

    3 жыл бұрын

    No, I think I should not agree either. I should have the right to identify what I consider to be a correct judgement, as in the example "kangaroo". However the challenge offered is that the contrarian wants me to acquiesce to their suggestion that they are a "kangaroo". I think you are of the opinion that they should be told the truth. I was deciding on an answer that would support their finding "Truth", or otherwise remain in their "special state" (of mind). 🤔 My response is going to be a diplomatic "if you say so" for now.

  • @davidhess1019

    @davidhess1019

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MonaLisa-lu8zi The issue here is the "truth", and that truth is relevant to what each person wants to be his/her truth, which means that this would abolish any absolute truth, and that is the scheme of the devil.

  • @theofulk5636

    @theofulk5636

    3 жыл бұрын

    tell them to "BOUNCE!"

  • @rafaeldesouza8839
    @rafaeldesouza88393 жыл бұрын

    Great talk as always. I’ve been learning with Doug that being prophetic is not just predicting the future however is the gift of understanding what’s happening around us today with spiritual eyes being aware of the enemy’s traps.

  • @democratpro

    @democratpro

    3 жыл бұрын

    You should run, not walk, from anyone saying they are "prophetic".

  • @voyager1420

    @voyager1420

    3 жыл бұрын

    So true. Such as Revelation 3:9.

  • @monadouc9368

    @monadouc9368

    2 жыл бұрын

    Corinthians says something to the contrary. Prophecy is a spiritual gift for some. They are to use their gifts to build up the body of Christ.

  • @monadouc9368

    @monadouc9368

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Democrat Pro

  • @facelessshadow92
    @facelessshadow923 жыл бұрын

    There’s so much depth in this video.. I pray everyone that watches this comes to the understanding being shared. God bless you 🙏🏼

  • @puddleglummarshwiggle4236
    @puddleglummarshwiggle42363 жыл бұрын

    Brothers and sisters in Christ, please take a moment to pray for my children's abusers to be stopped and prosecuted and for my children to be brought home to me this year in Jesus's name. I've been praying for some time but I do believe God will work through prayer.

  • @achukagirma1131

    @achukagirma1131

    3 жыл бұрын

    God be with you in JESUS CHRIST MIGHTY NAME

  • @bonginkosimnkandla4730

    @bonginkosimnkandla4730

    3 жыл бұрын

    Praying for you sister may the will of God be done Amen

  • @mikeczeczot2070

    @mikeczeczot2070

    3 жыл бұрын

    I will pray for you sister. I pray everyday God save our children , my hearts been broken since revelation of pizzagate. Im a little miffed that such a grest injustice has gone to the wayside because of Trump getting in now covid b s. This issue should never go away. I pray for you and God bless you. Your heart is right in forgiveness first . But there needs to be justice done . Peace God bless

  • @kathyjackson9620

    @kathyjackson9620

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree with you in Jesus's name!

  • @ashleyhockenberry2187

    @ashleyhockenberry2187

    3 жыл бұрын

    Prayers

  • @aaronwagner2514
    @aaronwagner25143 жыл бұрын

    Chesty Puller is that Marine you were referring to, sir! "We're not retreating, we're attacking in a different direction!"

  • @dnzswithwombats

    @dnzswithwombats

    3 жыл бұрын

    "We're surrounded? Excellent, now they have no direction to go to get away from us."

  • @scuzlol

    @scuzlol

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good night Chesty, wherever you are.

  • @democratpro

    @democratpro

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dnzswithwombats hearing non-marines misquote Chesty Puller pisses me off almost as much as misquoted Scripture. Intellectual and literal laziness has murdered my country.

  • @brotherbill1000

    @brotherbill1000

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@democratpro Oh get over yourself, please. If it were not for him doing his best to remember a quote I would have never come to here about Chesty Puller.

  • @sootherswontknow

    @sootherswontknow

    3 жыл бұрын

    "Retreat? Hell, we. just got here!!!"

  • @motheringwithgrace8453
    @motheringwithgrace84533 жыл бұрын

    I'm sorry. I have to say it again, "Thank you, Pastor Doug!" Grace upon grace! ❤️❤️❤️

  • @robertcain3426
    @robertcain34263 жыл бұрын

    That picture in the thumbnail is not a church. It is a building. The church is the body of believers gathered together. That's it.

  • @jm1733

    @jm1733

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, and I might add that the church, the called out ones, had the Spirit of Christ teaching them and had all things in common and were espoused to one husband, Christ. They had one teacher and understood the scriptures. These are attributes that are missing in the counterfeit harlot church system of carnal babylon. They also knew that Christ is the savior of all men, especially of those who believe. They commanded and taught these things, which leads to a tremendous amount of love and a lack of condemnation towards those who struggle in life. They also understood what fire meant in the scriptures which no carnal denominations understand which leads to the ultimate blasphemy of God, the depths of Satan.

  • @paulklement4511

    @paulklement4511

    3 жыл бұрын

    Amen brother - true words!

  • @ExpiditionWild

    @ExpiditionWild

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hmm and what do we call that building

  • @garret930
    @garret9302 жыл бұрын

    The level of Doug’s understanding here is incredible. Haven’t thought of it this way

  • @motorTranz
    @motorTranz3 жыл бұрын

    “They are in front of us, behind us, and we are flanked on both sides by an enemy that outnumbers us 29:1. They can’t get away from us now!” Lewis Burwell "Chesty" Puller

  • @edkeoshian6661

    @edkeoshian6661

    3 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely, it's time to fight back, Trump will lead us!

  • @erikgriffith8857

    @erikgriffith8857

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@edkeoshian6661 No, Christ will lead us. (And no, I'm not anti-Trump.)

  • @edkeoshian6661

    @edkeoshian6661

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@erikgriffith8857 it's time to put away the old "turn the other cheek" crap, January the 6th should happen monthly, and I'm with you, I'm definitely not anti-Trump, you need to reconsider what matters today!

  • @johndank2209

    @johndank2209

    3 жыл бұрын

    christianity is literally the religion with most people (about 3 billion), stop pretending you're the minority.

  • @erikgriffith8857

    @erikgriffith8857

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@edkeoshian6661 The words of Christ aren't crap. What matters for eternity is infinitely more significant that what matters for today. This world will end one day. In the interim, Christians can work to fight for their liberty within the confines God has provided. America wouldn't even exist had Christ not rebuked Peter for cutting off the high priest's guard's ear. Don't allow Godless so-called "progressives" to cause you to lose your soul. I'm angry, too, and justly so but "in your anger, do not sin."

  • @catbee1452
    @catbee14523 жыл бұрын

    "Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of his might. Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil." (Ephesians 6:10-11) Without God's full armor, we are the devil's prey. "Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand firm." (Ephesians 6:13) Because if we do not remain alert and stand firm in Truth, we will be taken down by the evil one....aka, we won't know what hit us.

  • @clinthathcock6078
    @clinthathcock60783 жыл бұрын

    A lot of these people (not all) leave and vote the same way they voted in the place they left, which led to them leaving. Vicious cycle.

  • @democratpro

    @democratpro

    3 жыл бұрын

    Your uncle established the USMC scout-sniper program. 👍🏿

  • @dontall71
    @dontall713 жыл бұрын

    Douglas MacArthur, "We're not retreating, we're advancing in another direction"

  • @tdavis8799
    @tdavis87993 жыл бұрын

    Our church has a spine! 🙌🏼 Praising God His word doesn’t change!

  • @johnelliott5859

    @johnelliott5859

    3 жыл бұрын

    You have correctly identified the problem.

  • @MonaLisa-lu8zi

    @MonaLisa-lu8zi

    3 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely. "I am the way, the truth and the light" says the Lord.... Spinal fusion.

  • @johnelliott5859

    @johnelliott5859

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MonaLisa-lu8zi maybe more like paralysis for the majority of humanity. If the majority of humans have never heard Christ's message, how can they be saved? If Christ is the only way to salvation.

  • @johndowney8007
    @johndowney80073 жыл бұрын

    Stay strong in the LORD JESUS and the power of his Might HALLELUYAH AMEN

  • @jeremyogrizovich3247
    @jeremyogrizovich32473 жыл бұрын

    So glad I discovered this channel, thank you for your work.

  • @williamlott7612
    @williamlott76123 жыл бұрын

    Anyone who has ever read Revelation should know things are going to get increasingly worse before things get better. Darlington, South Carolina

  • @carolcole570

    @carolcole570

    3 жыл бұрын

    William Lott. Goodness William, I have read down thru the comments, getting more discouraged as I read. UNTIL I got to YOUR comment ! William, what do you think all these people are THINKING ? Are they not keeping up with Prophecy ? They sound as if they are from another planet . You and I know EXACTLY what is happening, and EXACTLY what is GOING to happen, all the way to when that trumpet blows for us to go up thru the air. Atlanta, Georgia

  • @williamlott7612

    @williamlott7612

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@carolcole570 I’m not sure if they are thinking at all. Too many react based on their feelings and not God’s truth and sovereignty. I think that things will get a whole lot worse than today. When the persecution begins in earnest many will flee the church and those left will trust in God alone to see them through the peril. I believe that God is always in charge and that Scripture is true regarding the future. I personally don’t worry about the future as I know the One who holds the future in His hands. God bless.

  • @carolcole570

    @carolcole570

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@williamlott7612. Amen and AMEN. I hope many will get plugged in to J.D. Farag.

  • @GabrielMartinez-su8di
    @GabrielMartinez-su8di3 жыл бұрын

    This is great. Doug Wilson is such a blessing for the church.

  • @SAOProductions1955
    @SAOProductions19553 жыл бұрын

    The exact quote from Herbert Stein goes like this - “If something cannot go on forever, it will stop.”

  • @branded648
    @branded6483 жыл бұрын

    Ya can't let folks make you uproot and leave. Stand your ground 👊💥👊✝️👈

  • @fishchick72

    @fishchick72

    3 жыл бұрын

    It all depends on what God is calling you to do. He will tell some to move. But not all. But my family wants to move badly & God has not given us the green light so we are sitting tight in crazy California until God tells us otherwise. Thankfully we do have an amazing church.

  • @travis6694
    @travis66943 жыл бұрын

    Everyone is fleeting to Phoenix Arizona like crazy people. I’ve been here for 14 years and I’ve never seen it so busy before.

  • @juliephair5317

    @juliephair5317

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is unreal !

  • @democratpro

    @democratpro

    3 жыл бұрын

    Welcome your replacements with open arms. If not, you are raciss

  • @trevbarlow9719

    @trevbarlow9719

    3 жыл бұрын

    Fleeing

  • @travis6694

    @travis6694

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@trevbarlow9719 haha ya

  • @muckypuck

    @muckypuck

    3 жыл бұрын

    Where are you? I'm in Tempe. Been here since 1977 when I was in 3rd grade from Cleveland. And yes, this influx is INSANE! We can't even find a house to buy, and I'm not sure I want to throw (waste) the money in this ridiculously over-inflated market. When will it level off?

  • @joyceharris9296
    @joyceharris92963 жыл бұрын

    It's time to "Be done with the sherade of secularism". "Be unembarrassed about speaking up" with moral convictions. Identify as a Biblical Christian because "Secularism is an empty hollow idle".

  • @honeybear200
    @honeybear2003 жыл бұрын

    I am asking for prayers concerning another Great Revival like The Welsh Revival only world wide. Please brothers and sisters pray for this with me so the HOLY SPIRIT can be poured out on the masses before The Master returns. Thank You, GOD BLESS YOU ALL!!!

  • @podunkbetty
    @podunkbetty2 жыл бұрын

    Started slow but ended with a bang. Love you Doug!

  • @jacobroquemore1698
    @jacobroquemore16982 жыл бұрын

    All I can say is.....WOW. Such Truth is spoken. Keep on brothers. The Truth will set all of us free.

  • @lpbl2004
    @lpbl20043 жыл бұрын

    Dr. Wilson, thank you for your wise advice. You are a wise and intelligent Pastor, and I affirm much of what you’re saying. I just wish that in the midst of this conversation, there would’ve been a call back to prayer and devout study and application of the Scriptures. We as evangelicals are so ignorant of who God is, and we need first and foremost get back to Him. This is just my humble addition, thank you.

  • @democratpro

    @democratpro

    3 жыл бұрын

    Save your additions, humbly. Look with your eyes, not with your mouth

  • @Skinned_Knees
    @Skinned_Knees3 жыл бұрын

    The best description of what’s going on right now!

  • @suetipping4841
    @suetipping48412 жыл бұрын

    Love the quote about the disasters disguising the Will of God. Tremendous to remember that quote alone.

  • @OneManCanStopTheMotorOfWorld
    @OneManCanStopTheMotorOfWorld2 жыл бұрын

    Doug is such an incredible thinker it’s inspiring to watch him fuse and meld ideas

  • @joshuasy10
    @joshuasy103 жыл бұрын

    Man is spitting straight facts! Glory be to God and let us not be ashamed of his name! Was it not seen as a tragedy for Jonah to flee and enter the waters? But in the end there was rebirth and the saving if a city, these are all signs of the times ppl, stay strong, bolster your communities, prepare for the flip, and praise God!

  • @JonJaeden
    @JonJaeden3 жыл бұрын

    Most excellent. Digging out my old copy of "Idols for Destruction" for probably a third or fourth reading ...

  • @CornCod1

    @CornCod1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wow, read that 40 years ago when it came out.

  • @perryewell5395
    @perryewell53953 жыл бұрын

    Amen! This "falling apart" of society will bring Christians together like never before and people who desire good will see the light. Christ has overcome the world. We need but follow Him.

  • @Spl1nter699
    @Spl1nter6993 жыл бұрын

    "Secularism is an EMPTY, HOLLOW IDOL." Yes!

  • @kubasniak

    @kubasniak

    3 жыл бұрын

    He just said when I read it LOL and video ended

  • @kubasniak

    @kubasniak

    3 жыл бұрын

    Secularism is atheism and rotting stagnation. Product and deceit of the devil. Too much pride, arrogance and hostility, narcissism, fake empathy and nothing to strive for. A hopeless never ending abyss of misery. The lukewarm and double minded Christians not living faith are the same or even worse.

  • @RockyMoth
    @RockyMoth Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely the best conversation I've heard in years!!!👍🏻☝🏻

  • @shannoncrawford7212
    @shannoncrawford72123 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this presentation. Similar comment to one I made on a The Sword and the Trowel video the other day. This presentation has been a huge affirmation for me personally as to the direction that God has directed and guided me and our family over the past several years. I spent 20 years with a large corporation, and the last 8 years of that time in a leadership position with a high level of responsibility, and very good compensation. And as a part of that job, we moved away from where my wife’s family was located and to several locations throughout the US (one of which was Portland, OR). Although we always had the desire to be able to eventually relocate back to near her family (in NC). Unfortunately much of the relocation to NC is from the Northeast and not necessarily from people with similar worldviews. BTW, I grew up in Culdesac, ID. Both my parents and several of my siblings went to the U of I. I went to many FFA events at the U of I. Several years ago I was becoming increasingly aware of the nature of working in a corporate environment and how that did not fit well with my own personal leadership beliefs and common sense thinking. I made the decision to leave my position with the company and to purchase a bread distribution territory back in the area my wife’s family lived. I would consider it semi-entrepreneurship. As it is basically a franchise style business, but with a much simpler business model than typical restaurant franchises. It was a reduction in income, but still provides sufficient income that our family needs to support ourselves. And it is inflation and recession resistant. As your profit is based on a percentage of the amount/dollars of bread sold, so as prices increase through inflation so does your income. And bread is typically one of the last things off of the shopping list when people experience financial difficulties. And it provides several layers of protection against cultural decay and pressures to conform. My business is incorporated so my franchise agreement/contract is between my corporation (not me personally) and the parent company. And my business is contractually protected, without contractual obligations around personal beliefs/statements (as opposed to at will employment). Not that anyone will be completely protected from pressures to conform, as the attacks will likely come from all angles and aspects of life. I personally feel burdened about Christian leaders in secular businesses/corporations in the coming years, as they will likely have an additional layer of pressures against their convictions/beliefs. Not only will they likely be expected to conform to the “new” belief system/worldview, like all employees of a company. But they will also be expected to teach it and eventually hold others accountable who do not conform. Which may put many in a position of choosing to stand on their beliefs in the Word and losing their job/source of income. With no opportunity to try to “lay low” and weather the storm. I could see myself being in this exact position had I stayed with my former employer. And I hope and pray I would have had the strength to quit or be fired rather than conform and do their “dirty work.” But that may be a very difficult position/decision many corporate Christian leaders find themselves in soon. And lastly, but most importantly, God has led us to a wonderful church, that has been standing firm to the Word in the onslaught of ideologies around COVID and the woke/CRT agendas. The lead Pastor/Elder is a graduate of The Masters Seminary, and I see a lot of similar leadership qualities in him that have been evidenced in John MacArthur during the past year.

  • @shannoncrawford7212

    @shannoncrawford7212

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Kizito Kanu Of course, and thank you for the prayers. As we are all going to need prayer, strength, courage, and wisdom as we navigate the upcoming years.

  • @lilachart6371
    @lilachart63713 жыл бұрын

    Totaly agree 👍 feeling pretty alone in all this at the moment ..except for my Faith and Jesus Christ standing by my side.

  • @dskipper5144

    @dskipper5144

    3 жыл бұрын

    Then you're very very alone.

  • @gloriamiller7144
    @gloriamiller71442 жыл бұрын

    My son listens to your broadcast all the time. I myself just started, but , so far I am impressed of your teachings. or biblical thoughts.

  • @gregshock
    @gregshock3 жыл бұрын

    Even more than the dictionary, the battle is over who is in control of your mind. I guess, by extension, that must be true. Control over language is control over speech and mind and ultimately, action.

  • @amarleborgne9073

    @amarleborgne9073

    2 жыл бұрын

    Controlled Language … reminds me of the Tower of Babel

  • @matthewdavidlandberg91588
    @matthewdavidlandberg915883 жыл бұрын

    We need a church with a moral backbone, compassionate towards all human beings but stay true to their convictions about biblical marriage and family. Cancel & celebrity culture is very bad for both the church and non-church going people. You need GOD to make your case!

  • @ryanedwardscott

    @ryanedwardscott

    3 жыл бұрын

    biblical marriage? What a great idea. Start with women treated as property and perhaps move to having multiple wives? genius

  • @democratpro

    @democratpro

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ryanedwardscott i bet you only wear one mask. fauci said it takes two to tango with the deadly virus. Ryan, why do you want to kill every body?

  • @voyager1420

    @voyager1420

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ryanedwardscott Yes.

  • @jerryshunk7152

    @jerryshunk7152

    3 жыл бұрын

    MATT: JW'S

  • @matthewdavidlandberg91588

    @matthewdavidlandberg91588

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ryanedwardscott biblical marriage means honoring marriage as between one man & one woman open to the gift of life not multiple wives. And not to treating women as property. That was never GOD's intention for marriage.

  • @Lightwait321
    @Lightwait3213 жыл бұрын

    Amen! Done with the charade of secularism. There is always a god behind forms of worship. Everyone is trying to impose their morality!!!

  • @johnkoenig326

    @johnkoenig326

    3 жыл бұрын

    Unlike your lot...

  • @akascotman
    @akascotman3 жыл бұрын

    Problem in my country is relocation means emigration. Americans are fortunate to be able to move to different states without sacrificing their culture.

  • @robertcoeymanjr.2550

    @robertcoeymanjr.2550

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not anymore.

  • @Whatisthematterwithyoupeople

    @Whatisthematterwithyoupeople

    3 жыл бұрын

    only until a leftist governor gets in

  • @diverdan287

    @diverdan287

    3 жыл бұрын

    That will change!

  • @robertcoeymanjr.2550

    @robertcoeymanjr.2550

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@diverdan287 it already has changed.

  • @diverdan287

    @diverdan287

    3 жыл бұрын

    God bless you all!

  • @iBackshift
    @iBackshift3 жыл бұрын

    They want you to be a mirror for their narcissism. The deranged thing about "these people" is it does not matter if you cheer them or give them heck, its about adulation "servile flattery" - you paid attention to them, regardless of "cheers or boo's". 2Ti2:23 shows who they are, shows what they ask/demand of you; the definition of narcissism is wrapped up in this verse.

  • @CornerTalker

    @CornerTalker

    3 жыл бұрын

    oddly enough, in the KJV "But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes." and now our foolish disputes ARE gender strifes.

  • @iBackshift

    @iBackshift

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CornerTalker I had a loud laugh at that one. Albe'it was a scornful laugh at the truth you speak of. 2 thumbs up.

  • @larryclarke2119

    @larryclarke2119

    3 жыл бұрын

    Spot on!

  • @polskigirl8547

    @polskigirl8547

    3 жыл бұрын

    Narcissim has exploded in the world.....

  • @mustangNJD
    @mustangNJD3 жыл бұрын

    Wow. So good Doug. Thank you. I'm getting that book now, "idols for destruction"

  • @noahjones5600
    @noahjones56003 жыл бұрын

    This guy nailed it.

  • @kate60
    @kate603 жыл бұрын

    Well done. Thank you. We all need this.

  • @davidcrutchfield138
    @davidcrutchfield1383 жыл бұрын

    A great word. Thank you and God bless you.

  • @888karminaburana
    @888karminaburana3 жыл бұрын

    The task of evil is to wake us up - when things go well we don't ask why. We start thinking and asking questions when things become really uncomfortable. Hard times are to the soul what the weigths that a body-builder.

  • @jenniferklopman2557
    @jenniferklopman25573 жыл бұрын

    This is wonderful ❤ I trust in God with everything and I am not scared. Or quiet 🙂 God bless you all

  • @PastorEdwinTheProverbiallife
    @PastorEdwinTheProverbiallife3 жыл бұрын

    This was great. Thank you brother’s.

  • @Vnm-sh1jv
    @Vnm-sh1jv3 жыл бұрын

    We're truly living in the last days. Not just a sentence anymore. How godless and deceptive we have become.

  • @consciousgentile5141

    @consciousgentile5141

    3 жыл бұрын

    Godless, no. Cowardly, yes.

  • @Vnm-sh1jv

    @Vnm-sh1jv

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@consciousgentile5141 Majority don't believe in God, anymore. I wish it were because of being cowards. They serve their own god.

  • @consciousgentile5141

    @consciousgentile5141

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Vnm-sh1jv do you believe that? No, you do not. You know we are under censorship. Even the President is deplatformed and silenced. Every person who is against the anti Christ Beast System is silenced. The majority of people are against this, but THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SAY IT PUBLICLY. People are cowards. This is a time for manhood A time for action. Instead , people are hiding in fear, doing nothing. Which is all Satan needs to establish its kingdom.

  • @Vnm-sh1jv

    @Vnm-sh1jv

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@consciousgentile5141 can't argue with that... 😔 we were not given a spirit of fear for God gave us a spirit not of fear but of power and love and self-control. 2 Timothy 1:7 ESV

  • @dongorrie1828

    @dongorrie1828

    3 жыл бұрын

    People have been saying that for centuries.

  • @branded648
    @branded6483 жыл бұрын

    Gods word said these day's would be like they are. You ain't gonna change that. Trust in the Lord is all you can do. He's coming back to get us who believe. 💯👀👍

  • @johnelliott5859

    @johnelliott5859

    3 жыл бұрын

    said christians for the last two millennia.

  • @branded648

    @branded648

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@johnelliott5859 You won't be mocking when it happens 😳👈🙃

  • @johnelliott5859

    @johnelliott5859

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@branded648 why would you call a completely truthful statement "mocking". Christians have been saying that for the last two millennia. In fact, you could interpret the bible to indicate that Christ should have returned before his followers had all died. Why do you believe now is the time?

  • @branded648

    @branded648

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@johnelliott5859 The Bible Clearly tells us what will be. We are witnessing what is mentioned through out the Bible before The Second coming. Those who believe will be kept from the hour of TESTING to come upon the whole WORLD. (Tribulation). This time will be for the House of Israel and Gentiles who refuse to Believe on the only begotten son of God. I pray that you take this seriously. There is only one way to The Kingdom of God. Through the Blood of Jesus Christ. Read it for yourself. Peace to you ✌

  • @johnelliott5859

    @johnelliott5859

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@branded648 What about the millions of humans in history who never heard the message of Christ? Are they condemned to hell? I'm not sure about the bible clearly telling us what will happen. Most is allegory and open to interpretation. Not like the condoning of slavery and genocide which is clearly stated in the bible. I'll be happy making the most of this single life I have been fortunate to have and not worrying about an always imminent apocalypse.

  • @wamdn
    @wamdn3 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely excellent points made crystal clear.

  • @KallstromSweetCorn
    @KallstromSweetCorn3 жыл бұрын

    One of the best things my father every did was move our family [ and dairy cows , farm ] from Western Washington to Eastern Washington far more conservative ! I worked in the oil fields of N.D. that is a place of Godly people .

  • @amgtowmonk2915
    @amgtowmonk29153 жыл бұрын

    We are the church each and everyone of us.

  • @notsure2105
    @notsure21052 жыл бұрын

    It’s a battle for defining truth.

  • @donnaeastridge5579
    @donnaeastridge55793 жыл бұрын

    Very smart man. I love what he is saying and I totally agree

  • @Jim-Mc
    @Jim-Mc3 жыл бұрын

    This insight about how the 'woke' are really just looking for control, and not really trying to change objective truth needs to be a part of more of the political discussion.

  • @democratpro

    @democratpro

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's what CrossPolitic focuses on

  • @jillymouseful
    @jillymouseful3 жыл бұрын

    Wow , what a very interesting conversation ☘❣🙏

  • @ChalleyFTK
    @ChalleyFTK3 жыл бұрын

    Wow very very well said. Thank you for this.

  • @jarrettjb
    @jarrettjb3 жыл бұрын

    Ahhhh good thoughts. Understand and fight with understanding. All strongholds bow at His name.

  • @jaimejaime2930
    @jaimejaime29302 жыл бұрын

    God bless you Doug just moved from the peoples republic of Austin back to my homeland of Indiana.

  • @Petertutinski
    @Petertutinski3 жыл бұрын

    As one who holds to the premill view I would just ask my postmill brothers to be willing to see the merits of the premill position where the bride of Christ will follow in her saviors footsteps and proclaim the good news of the gospel unto death. The Jews expected a kingdom and missed His first coming because he came to suffer first. Let’s not make the same mistake of embracing a victory as the world defines it but by the blood of the lamb, and the word of our testimony. Loving not our lives even unto death. Love you guys! Maranatha.

  • @Robert-ly4ms

    @Robert-ly4ms

    2 жыл бұрын

    This postmill sees a great deal of suffering, but his kingdom expanding amidst it…China in the 20th century…can’t stop the gospel..ever

  • @BreezeWithAfrica
    @BreezeWithAfrica3 жыл бұрын

    Pastor Paul Washer, Leonard Ravenhill, David Wilkerson, great fire preaching pastor.

  • @mike.chambers3605
    @mike.chambers36053 жыл бұрын

    Finally, what needed to be said. Thanks

  • @hendersonjohnson3750
    @hendersonjohnson37503 жыл бұрын

    I agree. We have to do something.

  • @michaelatkins9780
    @michaelatkins97803 жыл бұрын

    If you think that there's 10yrs left, I suggest you read Isaiah, Jeremiah, Daniel, Habukah, Mathew, Mark, Jude and Revelations. And pray like your soul depends on it.

  • @jdharris6586
    @jdharris65863 жыл бұрын

    Great discussion! Personally, I feel like we need to put on the Whole Armor of God, ourselves. Then, for every man who has been warned we must warn our neighbor. Across the millenia, prophets have seen our day and given us the advice we need.

  • @amandaatchley6873
    @amandaatchley6873 Жыл бұрын

    Great conversation!! They are trying to get us to consent to them being the arbiters of truth.

  • @commonman711
    @commonman7112 жыл бұрын

    Tell Doug thank you!!!

  • @bruce5616
    @bruce56163 жыл бұрын

    this was good! thank you!

  • @barbaraz5251
    @barbaraz52513 жыл бұрын

    Excellent observations and summation of the real goal of the people pushing these doctrines. As to the question of whether we are in a peak or a valley-- I think we are being sorted. Everyone will be forced to take a knee or stand on faith. God is permitting the power brokers to do it and he is watching to see which of his children will stand.

  • @democratpro

    @democratpro

    3 жыл бұрын

    Barbara, you are correctomundo my sister. 👍🏿

  • @GaveMeGrace1
    @GaveMeGrace13 жыл бұрын

    Thank you and I’m sharing the truth.

  • @1969cmp
    @1969cmp2 жыл бұрын

    Stand firm in the faith....don't die on the wrong battlefields and share the Gospel. And look up and know that our redemption draws near.

  • @FaithfulNation
    @FaithfulNation3 жыл бұрын

    That was really good.

  • @edcarson3113
    @edcarson31133 жыл бұрын

    Rejoice our Redeemer draweth near.

  • @lynnv8501
    @lynnv85013 жыл бұрын

    I see these times as a blessing. Without a doubt Christ followers will be forced to be stronger in their faith. There's little room to be wishy-washy and weak. God is putting the church through the fire and burning off the dross.

  • @X00000370
    @X000003702 жыл бұрын

    My church was hosting a video series on the Christian view of creation vs. evolution. One of my Leftist "friends" wanted to attend so I brought him along. In the first 5 minutes, the video presenter wanted to define terms, you know, so we would follow the argument rationally. My Lefty "friend" became disruptive and the moderator had to ask him to calm down and be considerate of the other people in attendance. My eyes were opened! (This wasn't the last time this type of issue arose and in doing some research I discovered that words like, for example, "evolution" have changed since I was in college.) Logic and rational thought were not welcome! Feelings and emotional thought were their currency of discussion. God will take care of the Tares at the end of the age but I can't help wishing they all got on a super tanked and traveled halfway to Japan... Sorry, God another sin I have to repent...