Nice one year follow-up. I do like the idea of the FFT. Thanks for the update. 73s.

It's still better than my Hantek PC-Scope. Although the layout may be funky, it's still a stand-alone scope. Thanks for the video!

Having a function generator makes it pretty good value for sure, and button layout didn’t seem a problem regarding usage.

Love watchin your Video's Bro. You actually talked me into getin a Scope for troubleshooting television circuits. I figure out what to check after I recieve it. lol

For those concerned about the layout I would recommend the DSO4104C instead, it is only slightly more expensive but comes with 4 channels. Probably they are using the same front plastic frame, that is the reason of the odd position of the buttons in the 2 channel model. The features are very similar, but with a slightly updated user interface. The early firmware was a bit buggy, so do not forget to update it. Thanks for your great videos and reviews!

@excitedbox5705

4 жыл бұрын

Yea you nailed it. The 4 channel version uses the same plastic. There is also a rare S model that has a signal amp in that empty BNC spot. I had ordered this scope for 245 but was sent the much more expensive MSO5202 instead and they let me keep it. So I used some of the 250 I saved to buy myself the fy6900 60Mhz signal generator. I really like the MSO5000 and it looks nicer and if I ever have the money I will buy Hantek again but the new 7000 series. Here in Germany Voltcraft sells the rebadged MSO5102 for 850 Euros so you can guess my surprise when I opened my package and saw the even more expensive version.

@markvlasov5848

Жыл бұрын

@@excitedbox5705 Storyteller! Well, give me the data of the company who allegedly confused the oscilloscopes so much)))

Pretty beautiful oscilloscope, dude. 😃 Looks to have everything!

Amazing, Your review is the best on KZread! Super thanks :) I got a DSO4072C (70Mhz) watching your video. Looking forward to do a firmware update to get 250Mhz out of it.

I think as far as layout goes if you get used to it then it's no big deal. My personal complaint is the all in one package. Most of those are ok at several things but not great on any. I love your videos and respect your opinion and it's influenced a few of my purchases both directions. Keep up the great work.

I bought this oscilloscope a month ago. I used your other video as a reference, so you are partially "guilty" :) I'm loving this oscilloscope, I'm still learning to use it as it is my first oscilloscope but so far I have no found reasons to regret the purchase.

@learnelectronics

4 жыл бұрын

It's a good scope, the layout just makes me crazy.

It’s pretty I’ll give it that but I think I like my rigol to much to think about changing. Great video Paul.

I was considering the 4 channel version of this scope (DSO4254C). The layout is what it is because the 4 channel version of this scope uses the extra space on the right for channel 3 and 4 controls.

This is good for the price. Still love my Hantek!

the FFT mode is awesome, you can see all te harmonics pretty good

I agree, the layout of this 'scope could have been better. I would have opted to have the horizontal and trigger controls down next to the vertical controls, and the generator controls up next to the menu controls. Though the functionality is hard to beat for this price range. The more I use it the more I appreciate its capabilities.

Just bought it after watching your video.

I am going to buy one of these, Definitely.

@bobanppvc

3 жыл бұрын

Did you buy it?

You have wonderful hand ...

2024 AND STILL ONE OF THE BEST ENTRY OSCI!

Have an old hantek 1008a scope. Windows 10 blocked my device driver from installing. Tried hacking into windows to trust my device. Haven't been successful though.

Great video. Have you ever viewed a cd player optical block rf output on this. Specifically the "eye pattern". I've seen another youtuber who showed how his old analog scope would show the eye pattern fine but the newer digital scope (similar to this unit) could not display the same pattern so he couldn't use it to troubleshoot. Thank you.

just from the video. the lay out drives me nuts.... the big empty space.. grrrr... makes me wanna mod it to put things in the space so i have more knobs to turn lol

Looks like you have booted the scope up 4 times, stands to reason you booted it up when you bought it to check it out and once for this video. Have you only used this scope twice or did you do a firmware update and it reset the boot count?

What about your MicSig Scope Paul? Can you do a similar "experience review"?

Great review, thanks! I just bought the newer DSO2D15, because of the features it has. I usually work with audio circuits, few hundred mVs. Now the DSO2D15 has a big flaw in that region: the triggering is really weak, I can't get a nice stable waveform at 400Hz, 350mV, anyways not with edge triggering. Using slope trigering makes things a bit better, but not way better. How is the DSO4102C in this regard? I still see it at Banggood for about the same price as the newer DSO2D15, and if it has a better triggering I'd rather replace my DSO2D15 with this one. Thanks!

Nice , i have the same scope. Love it , and more, for the offer, i acquired it in amazon warehouse. There is a firmware update in July 2020 , I don´t know what are the benefits of updating, because it´s not documented, nor i have tested extensively, but at least, ( in my case), didn't bricked the thing. I suppose that it correct some flaws.

@johnfiott

11 ай бұрын

I've just updated my firmware and would also love to know what was fixed or improved as a result. Did you find out anything since 2 years ago?

And the layout of the buttons is problematic because? ( I am interested to study electronics and eventually will buy one oscilloscope and will like to know why is this an issue)

Do you recommend hantek dso5102p or this one over siglent cml+ something something (sorry, siglent's model numbers confuse me.) ?

You should do the bandwidth hack up to 200 Mhz. Every once in a while they have deals on the 4 channel version for under 300. I think it was 235 Euros on 11.11 for the 70Mhz version and for a few bucks you can buy the 200mhz probes and hack the firmware. The 2 channel model was reduced to 178 Euros which is an insane deal.

Hello friend, I have the same oscilloscope, the problem is that the oscillator frequency is off with respect to the indication, do you know how to correct it? Thank you very much, Norbert PD) autocalibration does not correct it.

Wow, when googled by model, your 2 videos on it will be first!

I have a more advanced 4-channel DSO 4254C and it lacks Recorder and Filter.. Why is it so?

maybe the signal generator output was not planned from the start, so the developer was confused and rushed :)

I'm buying a digital oscilloscope this winter, as an addition to my analog Tektronix one. So videos like this helps decide what to look for and what to choose. Thank you so much for this. BTW what do you think about something like the MUSTOOL MT8206 as a simple portable scope/multimeter? maybe even one with an built in AWG...

@bzoli5706

4 жыл бұрын

Forget it, and buy a MUSTOOL MT8207. I have one, and for many purposes it is very convenient. Mostly for high voltage measurements.

@geirendre

4 жыл бұрын

@@bzoli5706 The 8207 is twice the price of the 8206 at least on BG... Is it worth the extra $50 ? And it's MDS8207 isn't it?

@bzoli5706

4 жыл бұрын

Geir Endre Jensen Yes, MDS8207, you wrote MT8206 and I wanted to change the number only. I bought it for 70.99 USD with the coupon code BG79MDS. Sing up their newsletters and you will get "e-mail only" offers like me. And see the comparison between the two model on the Banggood site!. Sampling rate 200 ks/s vs 200 Ms/s, bandwidth 20 kHz vs. 40 MHz and so on... Don't waste your money on 8206!

@geirendre

4 жыл бұрын

@@bzoli5706 Thanks, that's good advice. I was wondering why I couldn't find the BW on the 8206 specs.

Great video great comments but you cross your hand trough the screen my máster!!! The other one Is great AND im greatfull for that

Dso4102s or Dso4102c ? Qual a Diferença (brasil)!

?? Wondering .. What are the differences between the 4102C and the 4202C ?? Specifically, is there an AWG on the 4102C and is that the same, on both models? .. ALSO ... Are all of the USB PC and Printer (data storage and output) functions identical ?? .. Are there any differences between the models, other than the measurement range (100MHz vs 200MHz) ?? ... FINALLY : Can the DSO4102 be hacked or updated to upgrade the measurement range to 200MHz ?

@CollinBaillie

3 жыл бұрын

The C series all have the function generator. The B series don't have it. The final digit is the number of channels (ie 4102 vs 4104) The middle 2 digits specify the maximum frequency (ie 4084 is 80MHz, 4104 is 100MHz, 4204 is 200MHz and 4254 is 250MHz) Basically the maximum frequency is the only difference, and that can be changed by a change in the software license, which has been proven to be alterable by end user. If you want the AWG, you have to buy the C variant to get the hardware. You choose 2 or 4 channels at time of purchase, to get the hardware. They're pretty much identical otherwise. Maybe the probes are better for the higher speed units if you buy the higher speed, but you can buy replacement probes which match, but maybe the pricing works out to be similar in the long run?

Crumby Scope. You should send it to me and let it torment me for a while. 10 or 15 years or so . It beats the hell out of the scope I don't have.

For who ever can answer this question. I have always used analog scopes and I'm thinking about buying my first digital scope but I'm wonder if the probe ground lead in a digital scope is attached to the chassis ground: normally that means that the probe gnd lead can only be attached to a ground point, otherwise you be grounding any point that you attach the gnd lead to. I have always believed that when using a digital scope the gnd lead of the probe is "FLOATING" or it's not chassis grounded: this mean that you can connect this lead basically any where as reference regardless if there is voltage or not at that reference point. I have alway wonder how to referenced my scope to a none ground point on a circuit using these analog scopes with a ground lead that is actually attached to the scope's chassis gnd. Some times you must reference the scope at a point that has some potential and a floating gnd reference probe is perfect for this kind of measurements. Any one???

@learnelectronics

4 жыл бұрын

Yes the ground is connected to the chassis and to Earth.

@ezio_g

4 жыл бұрын

@@learnelectronics Thanks for you fast response. There is hidden question there too I wonder if you can answer it: How to make measurements when a "none grounding reference or reference at a potential' is used? I believe that using ch1 as reference and ch2 at the measuring point (no gnd leads used), setting the scope to subtract/add math function, I should be able to take ungrounded measurements.

That's more of a distortion generator, than a signal generator...

Paul, I have bought 4 scopes, 6 Multimters, 3 Signal Generators, and a tone of other stuff. How I convince my wife that I needed them was telling here I needed better precision and since she knows nothing about electronics, it makes buying easier. I am sort of like you that is , kind of a addiction I guess. one is never enough..........

But Uncle Paul, what happened to the fancy Micsig? :)

@learnelectronics

4 жыл бұрын

On a shelf

@jimb032

4 жыл бұрын

@@learnelectronics you don't like it anymore? I was thinking of buying it but was hoping you'd do an "after a while" review.

I just bought a Hantek DSO2c10 ... Can I capture 5-seconds of signals on the two channels to see the timing differences between the two signals?

@learnelectronics

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@waltperko8389

3 жыл бұрын

@@learnelectronics Is there a demo video for capturing 5-seconds or more of two channels on a Hantek DSO2c10 or similar scope?

this dso 200mhz ? please sir

For those who are running on Linux go for the lxi-tools software for using network interaction. About the scope. it is ok . These days we get pretty good scopes for the given price range : github.com/lxi-tools/lxi-tools

Your not gong to put a $10000 scope on your bench if you have a wife anyway. AMEN Brother! Funnest line in a scope video ever! 👏🏻👏🏻😂😂😎

If it were a choice between this scope or a 70mhz DSO5072P, which would you choose?

@learnelectronics

3 жыл бұрын

5072P

@tomb8430

3 жыл бұрын

@@learnelectronics Cheers... really enjoying the scope videos too. I'm about to pull the trigger on one soon. One other thing, is there much difference between a 70 or 100mhz scope for working on audio gear, am/fm tuners, uhf radios, etc?

@tomb8430

3 жыл бұрын

@@learnelectronics An update, for some strange reason, the 5072P went up $50 after I made enquiries about it. It's from China, and not a local dealer here in Australia. I am now thinking instead to get the Siglent SDS-1102DL+ Or the Owon SDS1102. What would be your recommendation between these 2? The Siglent being local purchase gets me 3 years warranty as well. Siglant = AUD$300 vs Owon AUD$260.

A bit of constructive feedback : People don't care about what you like and don't like about the FUNKY layout as you put it... viewers are more interested in knowing what this device is capable of and what not.

Hi sir can you recommend me to buy this oscilloscope for porpoise.

Really nice review! Heh, if you put 10 000 euros to oscilloscope and if you are married, you should fortify yourself to your "lab" and wait a week or two for better days :).

@learnelectronics

4 жыл бұрын

Indeed!

So you can you get it to act like a spectrum analyzer ?

@learnelectronics

4 жыл бұрын

I did. I showed you a 1Mhz square wave with it's odd and even harmonics

@pulesjet

4 жыл бұрын

@@learnelectronics So you did. I was thinking as in a full spectrum sense. As in over a selected band pass.

Reposition yourself, arm in the way of screen