The swearing while mounting shows this guy knows what he is doing.

@OGBhyve

3 жыл бұрын

sublockdown Yep. I believe that's standard procedure.

@matthewclarke8313

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty much a sign of qualification really

@ArtemisKitty

3 жыл бұрын

Part of the standard 3-step process. Every computer you TRULY work on involves at least 2 out of 3 of the following: blood, sweat, and tears. The swearing is just using the proper banter, so that you clearly can see someone is a pro. ;-)

@russzaccari7761

3 жыл бұрын

@@matthewclarke8313 Chuckle; the only thing that made me cringe was not power on the box before putting it in; lord knows Murphy should have put the failed box on the bottom and then he'd be fighting to get it installed again

@MikeKirkpatrick

3 жыл бұрын

Yep. If your not swearing while installing cage nuts, your doing it wrong! :-)

I ordered the case, but it did not include free cat. Did I order the wrong one?

@WillFuI

3 жыл бұрын

Romnipotent I think so

@Jahades

3 жыл бұрын

That was last month's promo

@lain328

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jahades Damn and I ordered it just for the cat.

@soupwizard

3 жыл бұрын

You have to select the "Cat-1e" checkbox for the free cat

@JKNProductions

3 жыл бұрын

Guess I can’t order the case now

Pro installation tip, take two of your least favorite screwdrivers and insert it through the Server Ear Eye Holes of your choice on both sides (e.g. bottom left and bottom right hole) of the rack to pin it in place through the appropriately aligned rack holes that will eventually have screws in them too. The screwdriver bears the weight while you fiddle with the screws. The largest diameter screwdriver that will fit through both sets of holes will glean you the least fiddling as it will achieve the best temporary alignment, they also act as handy levers for slight alignment adjustments pre tightening. If you like this idea, bend the pair into hook shapes and they won't ever slide out until you work them out.

@cfgdr3

3 жыл бұрын

Nice tip! (I know...that's what she said). Seriously, that is a good tip to know. I'll try it on my next install.

@CyberdyneSystemsSkynet

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly I prefer just swearing profusely trying to balance a 2U appliance with one hand while bracing my forearm on the switch below it and hoping I don't cause anything to power cycle. XD

@jyvben1520

3 жыл бұрын

@@CyberdyneSystemsSkynet or tear your biceps

@dirkdeboer6569

3 жыл бұрын

Even easier, just put a pair of rack screws in the ru below and hang the server off that. You'd be surprised how much wait it takes

@russzaccari7761

3 жыл бұрын

@@dirkdeboer6569 this is how I have done it in the past but not with a cage nut rack; prethreads make that approach so much easier; almost impossible to get cage nuts in place after the server is mounted even loosely; my trick is to put a shelf in below the insert, inverted and let it hold the weight

Don't lie, your case decision was solely based on the free cat.

@CraftComputing

3 жыл бұрын

You got me

Magnetic-tipped screwdrivers.... are not a backup LMAO Also, Rambo was helping LOL.

I love this channel. Thanks so much! Brings back memories of when I worked for a small server system builder for 10 years. The number of cheap Chinese cases like this that we had to find work-arounds for to get all the cables connected and everything to fit was insane. I was so glad when they fully switched over to pure Supermicro, although even that came with its challenges when the customer wanted non-standard kit in the build. This channel was an easy subscribe!

I have been doing homelab for over 4 years now, and I just want to say that you are my absolute favourite youtuber. I was in a bit of a homelab rut in the past couple of months, and you have reignited my love for networking. Thanks for the videos!

Quick way to double the cost of all these servers replace all the 80mm fans with Noctua NF-A8s

@JoaoSilva-gs5jb

3 жыл бұрын

how much do they cost?

@_mwomp

3 жыл бұрын

@@JoaoSilva-gs5jb ~$16-$30

Rosewill, such a great company. Cheap server chassis have saved my life a few times lol. I'm very tempted to follow this and make a Proxmox Cluster!

Tip on getting the significant other on board: point out that if you don't have a home lab, you'll be screwing around with VMs on the same system that your family photo backup is on.

@mikkelbreiler8916

3 жыл бұрын

And she'll say "But honey. Isn't that in the cloud?"

To overcome the airflow issue with ATX power supplies in 2U chassis, I used an SFX to ATX adapter and mounted an SFX power supply inside the chassis. This will leave about 1cm of space between the case wall and the fan for the power supply to breathe.

@CraftComputing

3 жыл бұрын

I considered that as well, but it wasn't worth nearly tripling the price of the power supply. These supplies aren't exactly going to be stressed, with 100/350W being used.

@TheRogueBro

3 жыл бұрын

@@CraftComputing Maybe some DIY "speed holes" could be added to the PSU with a drill? Lol. Also, don't think i don't see you avoiding my question about those cheap HGST drives...

@CraftComputing

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha, caught them on an eBay BIN. I bought all they had left 🤫

back in the day (1980's) you could get plastic feet for MB mount holes that did not line up to any mount points in the case (you can probably still get them). This would solve your wobbly MB corner

@thorgher30

3 жыл бұрын

still have half a gross of these for those oddball cases/betwixed form factor mb's (bought a gross back in 2001), especially helpful for those instances where 20/24 pin connectors are hanging out in space.

@elikirkwood4580

3 жыл бұрын

I need some of these for my server, as im running an xlATX board in a standard atx case and im using some packing foam to hold up the top

@dainipeagram4837

3 жыл бұрын

@@elikirkwood4580 I found their proper names: 10mm Flush Mount PCB Supports

@8point6

3 жыл бұрын

Old school checking in, a 'standard' nylon mouse pad cut into 2 inch by 1/2 inch are the perfect height to place underneath motherboard and provide adequate insulation and dampening, that's what i've always used without failure.. just glue or place adhesive tape on back

Just ordered the parts. Man am I excited !!! youre great man! keep up all the awesome homelab/server vids! :))

Great video, man. I love seeing builds like this where you're making due with low-cost hardware and not pretending like everyone needs a Threadripper.

"It was cryptocurrency e-waste, babe! Oh - those? I'm...just...recycling... these old Xeons and chipsets."

@CraftComputing

3 жыл бұрын

See, once you have a full server stack like me, you can just say "Oh that one? It was at the bottom of the rack, that's why you didn't see it. I just moved it up a bit. Yeah, that's it!"

Really nice work! I see some Proxmox HA in your future! Can't wait to see what goes on them!

21:17 *Dell R710... So both on-camera Jeff and editor Jeff are idiots this week.

@seiverdamross

3 жыл бұрын

I like my 710 with 5675s and only paid 160 for it

@rdmclark

3 жыл бұрын

I picked up a R720xd for 350. so far I love it. its quiter that the R710 and I got 6 more drive bays for my data hoarding needs

@raymondlarose9334

3 жыл бұрын

If someone is looking for a cheap 1U server, R420s CAN be had pretty cheap and low power :)

@sfp4197

3 жыл бұрын

I bought 2 used servers a hp dl360e g8 and a r610 for 320$ (total 56gb ddr3 48threads aprox. 2ghz)

@necrogami1

3 жыл бұрын

So i guess i stole my R730 for $25 then...

This is why I have things shipped to work. Happy wife, happy life. And I get new toys.

OMG. Free cats are the best bonus item! Love you Rambo

Venting for standard PSUs is why I prefer 3U cases. And room for full height cards. Totally in agreement when talking about fan noise.

I'm looking forward to videos about what you decide to use your brand new servers for. Homelab fascinates me, but always seems like too much hardware for my needs.

Keep looking at building my own NAS and that chassis is the exact one I keep looking at so good to actually see a build in 1 for once. Thanks for the video

I'm looking forward to seeing your next video about these servers.

For anyone complaining about the PSU. When you draw very little power like these servers, it's a non-issue. Generic PSUs are decent at running such low loads. They "blow up" once you put a overclocked CPU or a gaming GPU on them.

@CraftComputing

3 жыл бұрын

Bingo.

Well, it wasn't 3 servers without virtualization, but a Threadripper 1920x for $199 and a $239 ASROCK Phantom Gaming 6 motherboard using both ethernet ports and Wifi would be sub $1000 too. ;) I know, not really fair, but it's another approach and would allow for greater performance overall. Still, I can see the benefit to multiple machines when really building a network "lab", so well done and nicely executed.

I felt the dropping screws anger in my soul, one server tech to another.

@user-gi9se3mo1d

3 жыл бұрын

I've never felt sadness till i'm working on the back of a 4 post and the screws fall into the abyss

@DirkDeadeye_

3 жыл бұрын

Thats why I go in the bullpen and grab a helpdesk guy. I get a set of hands, they get off the phones and maybe learn something. Everyone wins.

You can also get ATX powersupplies with an 80mm fan pulling air through the powersupply front to back so that would remove the need for top ventilation in this case.

@SianaGearz

3 жыл бұрын

Difficult, while avoiding total junk and things that used to be good once but it was very nearly 20 years ago.

Ebay is the gold market for second hand enterprise equipment 👌🏼

Oh, I really shouldn't watch this... The wallet is in trouble.

As a fellow tech as soon as you were racking the servers I said let's see many times he drops the screws. Every tech's nightmare.

Also would like to point out that proper prior planning would take into account what you'd need in a year from now. It's pretty easy to build something that doesn't support IPMI or SR-IOV and regret it later.

A NUC based home lab would make a lot more sense for most, and as Wife Approval Rating seems to be a factor, a far easier to sell. between energy efficiency, space efficiency, heat output, noise, and flexibility of placement, they make a lot more sense. Plus companies are putting out multi-NIC solutions with 3rd party mods and 3rd party NUC-Alts like the Asus PN50.

Thanks. Realizing I need to build a homelab for my homelab myself

My first true server was an IBM PS/2 9595A with a type Y complex. It was OLD and slow, but it worked. It had a 100mhz Pentium and several 10gb SCSI-2 drives. This was back in ~2005, so that was a fair bit of space. I actually hosted my website off that server for almost 10 years. Today I have a Dell PowerEdge T320 with a 2TB hard drive and a 64GB SSD. I picked up a PowerEdge T420 that should arrive in just days along with 2 Xeon E5-2470V2 chips. I cant wait! Next month I pick up some drives and finally have a decent network storage option.

Man! I just loved when you showed your cat. Very interesting project. You have my suscription. Cheers from México.

Nice, that's almost exactly what the 2U case for my first homelab looks like. I used it as a router for a long time with Untangle and then as my Peppermint Plex Server

cat: if I fits, I sits.

I'll never forget my data center admin days mounting a top of rack Cisco switch with one hand praying I don't fumble it before mounting a screw on each ear. Enterprise Cisco switches are very expensive, as many know. I loved working in the data center.

@CraftComputing

3 жыл бұрын

I worked with some $25,000 1U Aruba switches. I totally understand 😁

Found your channel through the LTT video and been really enjoying your videos! New subscriber :)

Here's a tip for hanging servers onto rails to avoid the trouble you were having at 18:50 Get 2x 2-inch long M6 bolts and cut the heads off, or better still, just buy some M6 threaded studding. With a hacksaw, cut a deep slot to fit a flat screwdriver in the end. You've just made 2 locator studs. Screw these into the upper holes/cage nuts. Then offer up the server/switch onto the studs, which then hold the weight while you screw in the two lower permanent rack machine screws. Once they are in, remove the slotted studs one at a time and replace them with the rack screws. I used to carry 2 of these locator studs in my belt pouch and used a coin to screw them in and out. My buddy just skipped the slot and used mole grips to insert and remove the studs (and also to open the beer)

Well Jeff, you asked for video requests so here are some things I'd like to see you do with your new servers: 1. Setup centralized authentication with Port389 LDAP and MIT Kerberos (Active Directory is cool, but the cost of Windows Server licensing is not.) 2. Having 3 servers puts you in a nice "bare minimum" situation to play with Gluster, and tuning it to get decent enough performance to mount your Linux ~/ might be a cool video. 3. IDK if you do any programming in your free time, but it could be cool to get some high throughput computing software (HTCondor as an example) set up on these machines so that you can run cluster jobs (using singularity containers to run kernel jobs, running some openai simulations, who the heck knows) 4. If you wanna try out some hacking, throw up a metasploitable VM and try breaking into it with Kali, or setup some vulnerability scanners like clair and openVAS and get a report about which services have vulnerabilities delivered to your email inbox. Just throwing out some ideas, your content has definitely improved a lot over the past few years (not that it was ever terrible cringe) keep it up!

@hotrodhunk7389

6 ай бұрын

I just started using openvas. Amazing software. Luckily for me the only severe vulnerabilities are the honeypots I have.

no.1 issue - convincing my significant other i need a homeLab - subscribed

@Craft Computing You should 3D print some 1.75"x1.75"x1.75" blocks to use as supports when mounting something with a 1U gap between it and the thing below it. Stack them as needed for multiple U spacing.

Nice video!! I would like to see an option to have an add-on card or something to have IPMI interface for remote management of the server for a complete remote management

I got that exact rosewill case for my 2u server, works really well

Great job my fellow MB!

Glad to see I'm not the only adult running an MC server for friends and family 😅

cg on new lab, please make a tuto on camera surveillance, blue iris etc

And that children is why we use rack mount kits instead of juggle and hope for the best. 😆

Hah! Did enjoy the bonus cat.

Got a good laugh watching you mount that server. Now I know what I looked like dropping screws while mounting mine.

You almost made me cry trying to screw stuff in :) It's always happening when someone is watching ... :)

18:43 sorry to laugh at your pain. But dropping those screws killed me! I guess it's just that the same sort of thing happens to me. Lol thanks

Loved the free cat. I want it too!

Can I just take a moment to say.... I love surprise Rambo-in-the-box

Jeff is a very talent and fun to watch

Just started watching your channel and now I'm hooked... Sam and Max music ;-)

Right around 'cat depth' ... made my day :)

Great video

Jokes on you i don't have girlfriend.. Recently I built my first "server". I got cheap x99 ud4 mobo - 2 of the pins are missing but all memory and pcie slots are working. - 20€ (I got it localy) 128gb ECC Reg 2133mhz cl16 - 150€ (I got it localy) E5 2620 v3 - 13€ (from Aliexpress) Artic Freezer 34 - 27€ (New) PSU beQuiet 400W 80+ Bronze - 15€ (I got it localy) And some old case I got laying around (airflow is good enough) Also one thing I found this mobo (Gigabyte x99 ud4) is that it supports headless mode.

I'm surprised how much you know about server hardware and virtualization and all that. You look really young but you speak like you've been doing this since the dawn of time. I remember you saying you did this for work for the last ~14 years which is also amazing. Hope KZread proves to be very fruitful for you

Instead of mounting ATX psu inside 2U, I recommend SFX one with ATX to SFX bracket (sometimes included with PSU's). PSU will have some clearance for air and you'll have free space under it allowing you to fit an full ATX board.

Would love to see some virtual network set up in your new proxmox test environment. Maybe also setting up an ansible server to handle the maintenance of these test vms! (Keeping them up to date, easier software setup) I've seen some demos for ansible but most never get past "your first playbook"

Proxmox tends to work best in 3 node clusters. Ceph storage is also interesting to play with.

Ah, dropping screws off the old screwdriver brings back such memories. That's why I'll resort to the old trick of using scotch tape to temporarily stick the screw to the screw driver in awkward situations like this. Informative as always!

@SianaGearz

3 жыл бұрын

I have supercharged my screwdrivers. Most powerful magnet you can find (or a whole bag of nice neodymium ones), plonk it on the side, and slowly drag it up to the tip. Repeat several times. No more falling off screws, ever. But sometimes the screwdriver will just hop out of my hand and cling to a piece of steel :D Fortunately it's much harder to lose a screwdriver than a screw! Should the tradeoff be undesired, blu-tac works.

Rosewill rsv-z2700. Good name for a cat.

Uses can be setting one up as a Linux server for a password manager/NAS/Windows VM machine/code compiler. It's in my project todo list.

I swear when you said you'll have to figure the last one yourself in my head I said damn😂😂

Your cat is gosh darn adorable.

Your server rack is looking great 👍.

Security Onion Install! Great content!

I believe there were plastic spacers to populate holes in the mobo if there was no standoff in the case. They don't secure to the case but they will support the mobo.

“Which incidentally comes with a free cat” 😂😂😂

Rambo FTW lol. Awesome video man thanks.

great job 👍

hey, jeff! Thank you for the really good manual. I have build a Home-Server due to your manual. But i have changed it a little bit. I put the maximum amound of RAM(64GB) because i need it for my programs. Also i have changed the Chassis to a mATX Tower because i have no rack. I have added an old Graphics Card that i had laying arround(Also an old ATI Model). And i have added an 1Gbit NIC because the Motherboard you recommended has only 100Mbit onboard NIC and i am using my server for NAS too, so i need the Bandwidth. Thanks a lot for this great manual. Have a nice day

@ypr1962

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Kevin, Good Day. Could you please help me to find a refurbished/used server with up to : 2CPUs/ 64GB RAM / No OS with all other basic features . This is not for business,this is for education and training for a group of students in India. Please help with information useful to purchase . Thank you so much.

9:26 the solution to this problem is a front-to-back style PSU like the Antec Earthwatts 380w, for instance.

I'd like to see HA virtualised pfsense VM 's in there to offer some network redundancy of your nodes.

love your wrk

Best thing you can do if you don't work for an IT service provider is have a friend who does. I have seen countless viable rack mount and pedestal servers GIVEN away in my MSP days. 1U, 2U single socket, dual socket, you name it, I have seen it let go, free to a good home. Best case scenario is to know a sysadmin who likely has access to inventory vs a helpdesk goon who is chained to his desk

i cant wait to see the secret pc your working on with someone else :) not gunna spoil it. keep watching this space

Pro-tip, get the rack screws threaded by hand before switching to a driver(dont let the server rest on For storage, i have been a big fan of used servers from Dell HP, or IBM/Lenovo Hot swap drives because who wants to shut down a server and take it out of the rack to replace/upgrade a drive Dual PSU MANY MANY RAM slots-My Dell Poweredge C2100 has 18 RAM slots, this server does allow you to run quietly with L series Xeon processors, if you're aiming for the quietest server, use the L5620(4c8t) but a good balance i've gone with is the L5640(6c12t at a higher frequency) SLIDING RAILS-If anything goes wrong, you dont even have to unplig anything to say swap a fan(C2100 does not have hot swap fans) CHHHHEEEEEAAAAAPPPPP i dont think i paid over $120 for any of my 4 poweredge servers, all came with basic processors, some ram, SAS controller and drive sleds, one of them even came with 10G networking Excluding the drives, i think getting 12 cores (dual processors) with at least 48GB of RAM and at least 1x10G network port for under $200, probably under $150 for the non-performance 6 cores I have my storage servers set up using freenas, 12x3.5in hot swap drives with internal SSDs for caches, and anywhere between 72 and 128GB of RAM and dual Xeon L5640(6 core 12 thread and 60w each) I am actually in the process of replacing all of my servers with ryzen file servers will be a 3u whilte box chassis using hopefully a Ryzen 3600, 128GB of ECC 16xLFF hot swap drives 40G networking, and a few intel Optane drives for high IO cache and a few SATA SSDs for frequently used cache. I've already replaced my DVR+NVR server (Dell R710 with dual Xeon X5670) with a cheap 2u with 3700x, oddly, even though this is handing nothing buy video, i do not have a video card in this system The old servers will go into my disconnected garage/shop for a homelab rack making When all is said and done, i'll have two Dell R510 LFF, a Dell R710, a Dell C2100, and a Baracuda MailFilter 600(amd opteron with supermicro board)

Great video cannot wait to see the collab with ltt

If I hadn't come up with a homelab plan literally 2 hours before I saw this video, I'd be looking at this in desktop form. Nonetheless, it's good to learn I don't have to pay an arm and a leg for hardware.

Hi, Jeff. Great video as always! Are you running the rack mostly for home-needs or also use it for work-related tasks (freelance projects aside from KZread)? What about some Docker stuff (educational tutorials as an idea for your next video) ;)

Very interesting. So if just messing around and want something for a playground, or to get started - use X79 knockoffs. In your other video where you upgraded your production Promox, you mentioned, that you didn't want to risk using a cheap motherboard so you nabbed a Gigabyte board from eBay. Makes sense, if you just want to try out different features then having a bunch of NVM's around with these boards so that you can hop between projects, or at least that's another form of backup. ;] ESXi set, Proxmox set, XCP-NG set, and ??? set. Ooh, TrueNAS replication too. Now I have to decide if it'll be production with full WAF, or a playground. ;] Thanks Jeff!

Hey Craft, I'd be very interested what power draw these boards idle at without the HDDs connected. Also if you downclock or undervolt or set the power profile to power save.

Invest in some rails! I always look for rails for any servers I buy or build, even if they are shallow depth it makes a world of difference.

Hi Jeff, great video! I followed along and have one small question. Do the Super Micro heatsinks require an M4 standoff in the mobo? The ones I bought look very similar with the same mounting brackets. I'm just trying to figure out how the active coolers attach to the board and it's the only issue holding up my home lab. Thank you so much!

hehe I use books to hold a server steady while screwing it in :) Amazing video dude :D

This is great. Can you share the monitor and keyboard configuration you have at the ending of the video. I have been looking for something simple and not too much.

I lost my lab in a flood but I used Sun Fire X2200s. Everyone was dumping Sun gear when they were bought by Oracle so I picked up 3 dual quad core optron for 100 dollars each and spent another 100 bucks buying the ram to boost them all to 32gb of ram. 100 bucks for the keyboard, mouse, monitor that folded down into the rack. The rack, KVM, switch and Netapp NAS were throwaways I got for free.

Can i ask what your doing with the pretty sangoma box? Would love to know, love the video’s thx

I do basic vfx stuff and recently I got a 3 server thing to render farm. Total cost was around 1500, and considering that it is most of the time so quiet you can't hear it in a small sealed room, I think it is great. The cost includes a 27u rack, those other essential like cable management panels switch blah blah. It has a capability to store over 30 2.5 and 14 3.5 drives, has total of 120 cores and total benchmark around two xeon plat 8280s (and ofc the fact that it probably will be a little less due to latency so :p) all in used industrial servers still shiny. Total 128 GB ram and sadly not super power effecient (1kilowatt when all cores at full load). No gpu, but I don't need one when doing cpu rendering. TL;DR 1500 for all rack stuff 120 cores 128 gb ram quiet not uses a little too much power smexy pog

@voark6140

3 жыл бұрын

each server is 2u with 2 power supplies

Protip, install the bottom screws first, the rack ears will push back into the rack. if you put the top screws in first, the bottom will want to push away from the rack

nice video. Any plans to add IPMI capabilities to these servers? I love to see that.

In racks that have cooling it is popular to put 1 u spacing between servers to allow air flow through the rack which would also solve the whole the power supply cant breath issue. Just saying.

VMware ESXI install and setup would be a great test for the new machines...

i have a r630 they have pwm controled fans and is really quiet for a server. but mine is a beast it hast the 2699v3 in and the whole 768gb of ram but it is only the 8 bay system. i love this thing it is incredible fast. the power draw is on idle about 60W under synthetic load 480W but then the fans going crazy ^^

Question What about add rails to the cases? Any recommendations?