I was on the Grind King team in the late 80's when they came out with Bridgebolts. The reasons for them were simple: No screwdriver necessary so you only needed to carry a single skate tool (that also had heads for kingpin and axle nuts) and they wouldn't sink into your deck so you could crank them down a lot tighter. They were also higher quality steel than any other hardware available at the time so they didn't break as often (this was when skate hardware was still those crappy gold bolts with a raised dome head, total garbage). I still have a couple of sets of the original Grind King kingpins but had pretty much forgotten about Bridgebolts, thanks for the flashback.

@kevinandjudy

5 жыл бұрын

Who made the hardware that was flat and had wings on the bottom for the same purpose {no screwdriver required}? Was it randoms?

@Fudruckus

4 жыл бұрын

That dude is a kook. born yesterday

@timandrew4515

3 жыл бұрын

For me and my friends Bridge Bolts always seemed to break accross the 'bridge'. They were potent status though - and costly compared to regular countersunk hardware-store bolts. Not everyone could afford them.

@Dave-om4kv

2 жыл бұрын

Man this is what I love about the internet sometimes. In a normal conversation or even a television segment or something the thing would be presented with whatever info available to the presenter and that’s it. Here you scroll three inches and bam there’s information from one of the few people in the world that actually has experience with the topic.

I remember people using bridge bolts when I started skateboarding. It's not the worst concept: You only need one tool to change your truck, the bolt head can't wear out and you can simply laugh at people arguing about allen keys vs. phillips heads. I guess if the brigde part is flat enough an if they would sell grip tape with special cutting, you could minimize the disadvantiges. Generally speaking, I think there are some things that you can improve about skateboarding equipment and it is weird how people appearently just stopped trying. Nothing seems to catch on except for standard 7ply boards and shoes that are way to thin to last long. Oh yeah, there has been one major improvement I forgot: The built-in kingpin that forces you to buy a whole new truck. That really caught on.

@sinebass808

7 жыл бұрын

I rode bridge bolts and loved them. The need for only one tool was a great concept. The big problem with them was when they broke (and eventually they would), you were left with a dangling piece of metal rattling on top of your board.

@fuckenps3

7 жыл бұрын

Built-in bearings seem to be doing okay. An improvement over having 4 bearing spacers and 8 'speed' washers. My money is on Avenue suspension trucks catching on, most everyone seems to be impressed by them. The DKL griptape might fare okay too.

@marcuslange3347

6 жыл бұрын

That was the big selling point of bridge bolts. You only needed your skate key to tighten everything up. The big downside was they would crack in the center.

@elseoner2394

5 жыл бұрын

@@marcuslange3347 exactly I'm really surprised you didn't understand that it made setting up boards much quicker. Just like Thunderbolts remember those?

@d0gmantra1

5 жыл бұрын

I loved bridgebolts and would run them today if I could find them. The single tool was a big plus but as a 215# dude I found that they would help prevent stress cracks at the truck mount. Back in the day I ran those on a Tom Knox deck with "cruise missile concave" that has the little wedge that went under the base plate. Threw a cell block base plate in the rear with bridgebolts and I could do drops on that all day without cracking it.

i am quiet amazed by not making a single cut in your video while you're speaking how you do that?

@CJRussell

3 жыл бұрын

He probably has a script

ive ridden a long board with skyhooks, the board had no tail but you could jump up curbs or down a set of stair. the long board i usally ride has a tail but is so big and heavy that ollies can be very hit and miss, so if i you live in an uban area and you want to jump things skyhooks are awesome. i dont think they are all that helpful for down hill they sort of get in the way.

I had Powell's noseguard logo imprinted in my shin after a friend bailed a launch ramp and his board flew into me.

I liked the way my bridge bolts looked on my thick 1991 skateboard! Looked rugged and ready to thrash! And yeah, the fact that you didn't need a screw driver was rad.

The Skatewing was designed by Ben Lexcen, who designed the famous 'winged keel' for the Australia 2 yacht that won the 1983 America's Cup... The board was trying to capitalise, I'd say. I remember all this stuff from the late 80s, early 90s. There were also 'Ollie hornz' that held your feet onto the board too. The trouble with the copers, lappers or whatever is that half the time they would come off and bring your board to a stop as they got under your wheels. The nose guards would often break off, too. Its true what you say about the boards form that era though; I have an original Santa Cruz Rob Roskopp complete with Australian 'Cockroach' brand rails and skid plate (u shaped to cover the rear and sides of the tail) and it's still completely functional.

@SimonJHeath

3 жыл бұрын

cockroach wheels were the best ever...

the scooter board reminds of a board that I had as a kid that had like a curved handlebar run along the side of the board, kinda shaped like a cane, that you could flip up to turn it into a scooter. Thinking back it was incredibly stupid and basically combined the worst of both worlds but as a kid I thought it was the coolest thing ever

@bfarm44

2 жыл бұрын

Bought one for five bucks in a church basement a few years ago. For shits and giggles put some good bearings and wheels on it for my kids. Still gets a lot of use. Dam things sell for a hundred bucks on eBay now.

I use the skyhook on Bioshock Infinite. It works pretty well.

Skyhooks are only really useful for freebording, which is basically a snowboarding simulator with wheels where you need bindings for edge control.

Oh they’re wings. I thought it was just one hell of a concave.

I used to like bridge bolts back in the day because I was always losing my screwdriver. Rip Grip though... good lord I have no idea how much money I blew on that stuff back then. Good times.

@jamiehamm3676

7 жыл бұрын

came off or got stuck boardsliding lol

@grimcity

7 жыл бұрын

Yes indeed it did!

@jonfulkerson2437

6 жыл бұрын

I actually just saw someone on Instagram selling some “vintage” packs of it for like $30 each... I had never heard of it.

I wish those Airwalks with lace-savers would come back; the ones pictured in the video are awesome, and I always wanted a pair.

I had a dirtboard with skyhooks on it. The point was partly so my feet would stay on when I bombed a bumpy grass hill, and so the I could jump and do 180s, because an ollie just isn't possible with a board that big with wheels that heavy.

I am 42 still skate but not well anymore. I had all of those products on the first board I ever got from a guy at school . It was the caballero full dragon Powell xt. Which was a train wreck itself supposed to be stronger but just peeled up above the tar paper layer. The reason for bridge bolts as I remember was less tools required to install trucks. The boards did weigh a ton I got rid of everything except rails and bridge bolts. I kept those many because I was born in a small UP town in Michigan . So other than stuff from friends I had to get everything mail order from ccs. Anyway love the vids . Keep it up every episode I watch is like a trip down memory lane. I started in 85 so I saw pretty much of the evolution and ur vids are accurate .

@Thrashin_Victim

7 жыл бұрын

Boneite. AKA tarpaper board. One drop of water hit your board and it was like a sponge.

@jamiewhite6798

7 жыл бұрын

Yea it was a terrible concept

@sinebass808

7 жыл бұрын

I rode a Bonite deck or two back in the day

@jamiehamm3676

7 жыл бұрын

Same here. Started in 87 in upstate ny. I either had everything or my boys did!! Most of that shit sucked hahaha

@808v1

6 жыл бұрын

Per Welinder boneite board here...once the sides got chewed up the thing was done...but I loved that street version of his board.

Bridgebolts were helpful in that: 1. No screwdriver was needed 2. If you stripped out the head of the bolt you were using, or if the nut was rusted on, you had no choice but to try and hack it off w/o destroying your trucks. I still have mine from when they first came out!

i like your upload schedule! 3 videos a week is perfect! keep it up!

I'm 42 and have been skating since the late 80's and I've used a bunch of these. 1. Bridgebolts. Used these for a while. It was nice not to need a screwdriver. That was the main appeal to them. When boards were big and heavy, they didn't really get in the way. That changed once board shapes started to resemble the popsicle stick and you tried to pop and catch flip tricks instead of keeping your feet at the edges of the board. 2. Lappers were pretty dumb as were nose/heel/tail bones. Copers though, had their place. A lot of parks and pool owners in the 70's/early 80's required them if they had concrete pool coping to prevent damage. Plus they were a necessary step in the evolution of grinding in general. They bridged the gap between short grinds on untreated pool coping/curbs and ledges until skaters started waxing everything. Jeff Grosso talks about them in one of his Love Letters to Skateboarding. 3. Z-Rollers were generally thought of as stupid from the get-go. I never knew or heard of anyone that actually rode them. I just remember their ads in the back of Thrasher & TWS. 4. Grind King kingpins were cool, just a ton of work for little benefit if you were a street skater. I had one set on the Indies I was riding, but I kept the normal kingpin after I replaced those trucks. Never actually rode Grind King trucks. 5. Rip grip was fairly useless. I remember a few friends using it to get a better grip on his grabs during the jump ramp days. (Another stupid fad during the days of jump ramps was installing the front most bolts on your front truck upside down so the nuts were on the top of the board. This gave your foot something to grab so you could "get bigger airs". Thankfully this fad died quickly. I still remember an ad with someone doing a method air off a jump ramp with this set up.) 6. Lace Savers - I had several pairs of the shoes shown (Airwalk Vics). The lace protector was designed for ramp skaters to protect your laces from wear when knee sliding down the ramp during a bail. It worked, but was ultimately unnecessary. A solution to a problem no one cared about. 7. The one bearing wheels - I never bought these, but a friend of mine gave a set to me once. I rode them for a few weeks before throwing them out. I never had an issue with the wheel popping off the bearing, but the wheel would roll side to side. It would make it look like your wheels were wobbling when you were cruising. Inertia would keep you from feeling any wobble, but it would reduce your speed and caused the wheels to wear funny. 8. Skyhooks were mostly used in the 60's & 70's and, even then, they were known as the gimmick they are. Once ollies became commonplace, you almost never saw them. It seems some longboarders use them on the boards without noses and tails to get up and down curbs and such, but I still wouldn't call them "popular".

when I started in the late 80s the mantra was "plastics are for spastics" lol

Skyhooks came out in the 70s and I think it was invented about 3 or 4 years before the Ollie was invented by Alan Gelfand. They were fun to have and helped you learn air tricks a little easier, but after a while you get tired of them being bolted to your board and in the way of doing air tricks like you'd see pros doing in the magazines.

Hella dig your videos dude!

I read that lappers were mainly for riding up curbs for those that can't ollie. You manual the front up, and then the lapper does the rest. Although picturing it, it doesn't seem like it would work very well... Copers seem like a good idea to me. That said, I've never done a grind in my life. Wouldn't add that much weight being plastic.

Absolutely love your skate history videos, Do you have a Skate History Playlist? I dont see it. Keep up the good work.

I had a pair of those Airwalk Vics shoes when they came out. I paid $19.95 for them from California Cheap Skates (Now CCS) through mail order in a Thrasher Mag. Honestly, those shoes were some of the longest lasting shoes I ever skated. It seems shoes made now shred apart in days and I am nowhere as ripping as hard as I was when I was 16. I still don't see how some people pay $100 for shoes that last a month of skating.

"They're scooters, wich is bad enough as it is..." Kkkkkkkk Im so glad ur back on KZread rad rat!

The reason people used lappers is so they could really sit on rock n roll slides. The reason they used copers was because alot of those late 70s early 80s parks had pool copin blocks witch would have been almost completely impossible to grind without them and the reason for lace protectors was for knee slides in vertical skating if you look today nearly every vert skater tapes their laces because u can burn through laces with 2 or 3 knee slides or 1 on concrete.

For Part 2 you should include Wheel Shields, the Rockochet, the Wheelbone, the Ollie Board, and the Long rider. Especially the Long rider

@LEdHeadW

7 жыл бұрын

Lucius Fucius dude there has been someone trying to sell a Long Rider on Craigslist near me for YEARS. I peruse CL for skate stuff all the time (you can get good completes for a song, so many parents with kids who skated for 2 weeks and the boards have lived in their garage ever since) and literally every time I find the same person with the same ad. Nobody wants that garbage.

Great video radrat!

In an old issue of Slam Skateboarding Australia from 2000 there was a product called LOX (i think). They were skate shoes with holes in the bottom that came with rubber plugs to attach to your board, the shoes would lock into the plugs so the board was stuck to your feet.

I have a set of sky hooks. I used them on a first generation snow skate. I've also seen a dude with sky hooks shred on a popsicle in a park in Santa Cruz back in the day. He would bust these big ole lean airs with ease.

"Floam your bike, a skooter, your skateboard!" Also, I think the point of Bridge Bolts was so you didn't need to use a hex key or screwdriver - just a wrench for the nuts. Which reminds me... Remember those bolts that you had to hammer in through the hardware holes? They had grip on the tops and no holes for hex/Phillips. I'm blanking on the name. I think they were a more recent gimmick. Anyway, those things were weird. I haven't ever tried them, but I've got a bag of them in my skate stuff collection.

I do not Skateboard anymore, it's been 10+ years since, but one thing that always haunts me, is where/ or how high are these school picnic tables that I see people knocking flat tricks over. I was able to ollie up a 5 stair and frontside 180 up one in my prime, but I still doubted being able to get over a table flat. Are these lower than average tables? I never understood it.

Bridge bolts wouldn't loosen over time like regular hardware as they can't rotate in the hole (rocket bolts gripped in the hole and never had my trucks loosen) Royal now use a similar inverted kingpin, and would be helpful for smith grinds Gou Miyagi makes his own copers from pvc pipe (but also uses cloth for grip) Have you came across Jones trucks in your research? I remember seeing those in magazines back in the 90's different design to regular trucks

Back in the day the one with the most accessories on your board won. Omg. I think I've had every single thing through the years. Coopers, Lappers, noseguards etc. The most funny thing about that is when I got a new board and It didn't need rails to slide. That was the World Industries Jeremy klein (black eyed kid) Slick in 91. Imagine the relief. Back then boards and stuff lasted a lot longer. This clip was such a trip down the memory lane.

as a longboarder I would imagine commuters using them to hop up curbs in an urban environment. I've never heard of them being used for downhill or sliding.

can you do a history of famous skateparks, like burnside, or the combi bowl.

Mannnn, you could have just shown the board we slapped together in 1990 as a joke out of all our cast off gimmicks. We called it "The Safety Board". It was a Natas deck, clear grip tape, every plastic guard in eye-searing neon, tail bone, nose protector front and rear, bridge bolts (one broken), risers, these stupid tall wheels I had for some reason, and grab pads all over. It was heavy as shit. I also had those airwalks at the time. They even had those rubber ankle protectors. My best friend rode a CARBON (not carbon fiber) board with this weird center spine that made slides impossible. He was so embarrassed with that thing after the first week.

Ben Lexcen invented the winged keel which led to Australia winning the America's cup for the first time and the first time the USA ever lost the race, i imagine people threw money at him and he came up with the winged skateboard, it was a horrible thing and pretty much used for buttboarding down hills, the only really useful purpose i saw of bridge bolts was that people would use one and this would allow them to know which end was their nose quickly, XT bonite was a gimmick that Powell Peralta came up with that was horrible.

A few companies had one bearing wheels back in 92/93. I had a few sets of the Acme formula 1s, they were super fast , but as soon as any flip trick got mis timed & landed primo they would start to wear ,then pop off the bearing & once it started you needed a new wheel ,hence why I had 2 sets , though my local shop gave me the second , and when they went(half a day later), they replaced them again but with a set of normal Spitfires.

i don't know if you have ever heard about freebord... made to simulate snowboarding on street... uses that sky hook idea, maybe that is what your seeing instead of a longboard

Rip grips! I saw a mate who had some and claimed they were called gorilla grips, needless to say I couldn't find any. Ordered a couple and gonna stick one on my nose for some sick sweeper action. Thanks rad rat! 👌

@jacobjones2766

7 жыл бұрын

recently when I bought some indy trucks and I got a new version of rip grip. its not abrasive like griptape but its foamy. I don't personally use it but its kinda cool

I started skating in 87 when most of these products were popular. When I got my first brand new complete for Christmas 88 my Ray Barbee deck had half this stuff on it because my mom had come off over a hundred bucks and wanted it to last. I skated it as is with the rails and skid plate and truck copers for a while. We all had that stuff until Mike V changed the game with his double tail deck. Good times!

funny thing about a lot of the plastic accessories is that parents loved em, couldn't scratch your board or tail or nose, trucks would stay fresh no matter how hard you tried to scratch em up. BUT you had to drill so many extra holes to add these tail and nose guards and every once in a while they wouldn't get marked properly and get all fucked up... ahh late 80s skating was ridiculous.

If you wind up with enough more odd things to make a bit about, consider the v-lam or v-ply decks (and Boneite deck skins if you're looking for more). Ed Templeton had a model (riding for New Deal?), and I think Acme made one as well (and maybe others that I forgot). I, for one, loved them while I could get them - stiff AF and highly unbreakable. Unrelated - apparently like a number of viewers, I stumbled onto your videos and have been binging for literally the last 8 hours, thanks for the productions.

Those "skyhooks" are actually attached to my freeboard but their necessary on how it works ;)

Back in the day we had it all, copers, lapers, skidplate, nose bone, and we dreamed of z-rollers (never saw a real one but remember the adds)

@derekmaydaniuk4906

5 жыл бұрын

same man so much gimmicky garbage back then that felt absolutely necessary because the pros had em. Z-rollers were bad, floating axel was a terrible idea.

Oh man I remember bridge bolts. I think at the time we just assumed they were somehow stronger than regular bolts. In fact they were the exact opposite; the bridge design puts extra side force on the bolts, and so they would inevitably snap in the corner after a few months of skating, whereas conventional bolts would last much longer. They won't fit sideways, as suggested in this video, although that does remind me (related to another of your videos), there was a fad for a short while to put your front bolts in upside down so that they would catch your shoes and somehow help you to ollie higher. This was probably around 1989, after street skating got really popular but before tech skating totally took off, back when boards still had that 80s shape with a big tail but now with a small nose. There was also a fad around then to leave the grip off of the last few inches of the nose to make ollie one-foots easier to do, as they were super popular for a while. You would also usually leave the top graphic uncovered with grip. Eventually tech took over and that all gave way to the nearly symmetrical popsicle boards with tiny wheels of the early 90s that you could make do pretty much anything you wanted (except go fast).

Im 43. I quit sk8ing in 89/90. Last deck was a tony hawk street deck. It had/has all the junk on it. It is still in my parents shed . Its being mailed to me for xmas. Ill add a pick when it arrives. Sitting for 25yrs. Ive been skiing again for 2yrz now. Lobe ur vlog!

I remember seeing the skate wing in the Sears catalog in the early to mid 80s. Then I also remember seeing friends with bridge bolts. I had those plastic truck protectors. And the grind king pins were on my wish list, until I found deadbolt king pins that were the direct competition for grindking.

Growing up late 80s early 90s, those skateboard scooters were super popular. But they were for kids and sold at like KMart. I don't think it was ever really intended for tricks. Just for kids riding up and down the block before dinner time.

The skate wing! I've had this memory in the back of my head for over 30 years. Back in the late 80s I saw some show where they had a well known skateboarder (maybe Tony Hawk?) showing this latest and greatest invention in skateboarding. I didn't skate did but I wanted one. I thought it was obviously the next evolution in skateboards and all other skateboards will now be outdated. The HMS Dreadnought of skateboards. Though I never did end up skating, years later I'd laugh at how useless it would actually be and how easily impressionable I was back then.

My first skateboard was one I bought when I was in junior high in the 80's, and since money was scarce, I bought a bunch of the protective stuff to help it all last longer. Tony Hawk deck with Tracker Ultralites (plastic baseplate with metal hanger), rib bones, tail bone, nose protector and a truck protector on the back truck along with the grind guards. I was never very good back then though, never learned to grind or boardslide, so the nose and tail stuff were the only ones that actually did anything for me. And I would just ride the tail down hills and wear all the way through that guard and into the wood eventually anyways!

The skate wing was awesome as a 5/6yr old who was new to and couldn't skate we'd have a group of 7-10 kids sat on boards tearing down the hill pushing each other off trying to board the skate wing like skateboarding cowboy train robbers with the advantage of the wing being able to side swipe slam without warning. Guess it's stupid to a pro but I remember Good Times with Skate Wing.

copers were used before people would wax kerbs. Originally for pool coping, hence the name. Anything would grind, but they were mostly used by ramp skaters when they skated street... people who skated very didn't like to mess their trucks up on concrete. skate products were much more expensive back in the 80s so they sort of made sense, especially if you lived in a country where there were no painted kerbs. by the time the first H-Street video came out they were dead.

@fuckenps3

7 жыл бұрын

You can still get them in a few places online, so someone must be buying them.

Without watching the video yet I'm going to say Sky Hooks, Z Roller trucks, those asymmetrical skateboards made for either regular or goofy foot, Whale Tails, lappers, copers, nose bones, nose gaurds, rip grip, tracker Ultra Lights with the plastic base plate that you couldn't remove the Kingpin from when it broke, bonenite and boards with ridiculous designs like the Walker nightmare and The Sims Pharaoh or whatever it was called, ie The Mummy board, the Schmitt Stix Ripsaw, the Hosoi hammerhead 3, etc.

Gringking did not invent the inverted kingpin btw. G&s came out in late ‘80’s and was first truck with them. Coopers also had a purpose, wax was rarely used back then.

For the pure fun and fuckery of it, I once borrowed a friend's snowboard bindings and bolted them to my board for a mini ramp session. Must've been early 2000's.. It was hilarious. Massive backside airs ahoy! I took them off soon after. I missed the kickflip rock-fakies... :P

Bridge bolt = no screwdrivers! Back in the day skate tools didn’t have that Philips and Allen tool included.

Brewce Martin has a Skatewing™ and I'm pretty sure he once did an Andrecht invert on it, hanging onto the handle on his heel side wing...

I'm an Australian and used to skate in the late 80s and that skatewing was about as cool as taking your mum to a school dance

I think the reason sky hooks are more popular with longboarders is because drop through decks and others without tails are extremely difficult/impossible to ollie, especially with the added weight of big soft wheels and weird balance with the large wheel bases. So if you commute or something with that kind of deck you could still get up curbs and stuff. I've never seen them myself and I don't think they'd be helpful for slides. Most people use decks with W shaped concave, gas pedals, or more extreme concave to lock their feet in for slides. And I don't think it would be great for downhill either. I've seen people use one long bolt with a spare bushing mounted on the top to help lock their front foot in, for slalom too I think. I've also seen other people make footstops out of titanium and the like for the same purpose. Kind of like a skyhook but without the actual hook to help you pull the board up. It's just there to keep your foot from sliding off or to help lock it in to make pumping/slalom more efficient.

I'm actually looking for or going to build something like a Lapper because my kingpin is higher than my hanger and there's no way to shorten it. Copers were very useful at the time. Jeff Grosso did a love 'note' (instead of a letter) to copers. Apparently copers made it easier to do 50/50's and such on those old concrete bowls that had nothing but a chipped concrete corner. With the plastic being smoother and covering the truck, you could grind further and not have to replace your trucks after every run.

I was given a pair of sky hooks which I threw on my old stool with monster wheels which made riding in dirt down hills fun. But on a regular board they were just dangerous. Due to your feet being locked in somewhat made any kind of a slide hard to nail. They worked well with a longboard and having to get up curbs instead of having to get off your board.

oh and you forgot powell rat nuts! they were like the grindking kingpins but for fastening your trucks to your deck. the nut was flat on top and went into the top of your deck, bolts went underneath thru the truck and were allen key

Back in the day, many pool based parks made riders use copers so the concrete pool edging didn't get chipped up as fast. If you didn't have them, you had to *hire* a set. Even if you weren't made to use them, it was tough to grind anything but fresh cast concrete lips without them.

I had Ollie Horns, same as Sky Hooks. Mostly because I was a small kid and didn't have power to ollie that high. But in the end they just got in the way and hurt my feet.

I use one coper on the front only at some skateparks, as a lot of parks in Brisbane, Aust have shitty rusty coping. I use it kinda like wax without being inconsiderate.

It is so funny to think back and realize that I have used almost half of the stuff mentioned in this video. haha. Well, kind of..as some of it just came on the first complete board I got when I was a little kid. I was probably 8 or 9 in the late 80's when my parents bought me a neon green and pink board. It even had that lappers on it..or whatever you call those plastic king pin covers/protectors. It had neon pink rails on it too. haha. Later on when I got my first board with prominent nose that was close to the coffin shape, I bought a set of bridge bolts from a friend who had realized they were stupid. haha. Later on, I ended up skating and loving Grind King king pins and went through several sets of their trucks. I remember when Grind King came out with colored trucks too. haha. So yeah, I guess you could say that I was unintentially into the gimmicks when I was a kid. haha. That's what happen when your parents pick out and buy you your first board and think that you need all of the fancy gimmicks and gadgets on it. I wish I still had that first 'real' board. Damn. ...I just remembered another board trend. haha. I had a Vision deck in like 1990 or 91 that had neon green grip tape. But grip was the most coarse grip tape I have ever seen..even to this day. I don't remembrer what kind of trucks I had on it. .But it had 'Slimeball'' wheels. I can't remember the dimensions, but they had to be close to 70mm. hahaha Super soft wheels.

I actually had the bridge bolts and forgot about them until this video. They came with the trucks and wheels and bearings I bought used off a guy in 1992. In no way did they help. They actually made the board a tad heavier. I remember thinking they were cool since they were unique.

My neighbor had a board with handles like that when I was maybe 10. I had a walmart skateboard that I spent a lot of time on so I knew how to skate, but the couple times I stepped on that thing it was like my brain short-circuited and all I could do was try and use the handles to turn which brought me straight from the sidewalk into the grass. This was shortly after razer scooters went into full swing, so my muscle memory for turning with a scooter took over.

Bridge bolts were awesome. You don't understand their usefulness - I can't understand why they went away. No screwdriver required. Instead of 4 points of possible failure on the trucks, you had two lateral points - much stronger. No stripped heads. If a nut somehow falls off, you don't lose any structural integrity. They were a brilliant invention.

lace savers are actually sound really usefull. a lot of transition skaters will duck tape over there laces to save them from immediately snaping from knee slides

The all-time biggest gimmick is small wheels.... They came out to be able to make non skaters able to skate..... slowing down skating in general...

My buddy had a set of sky-hooks on an off-road board. It made sense because it's really hard to ollie when you have 100+mm wheels. Otherwise, they're worthless. Even on a longboard.

Using the sky hooks, I would always be afraid that my body falls a direction my foots cant follow as they are looked making a normal fall way more dangerous, breaking my ankles for example.

ok, who turned their 2 front bolts upside down?

Bridgebolts and Ubolts always snapped.Also , skyhooks came out I believe in 1976

Absolutely brilliant mate, this video is like a narrative for when I started skating. I've been sitting here laughing at the shit we used to have back in the day. The Grind King kingpin was awesome, it dropped the height of the kingpin to the point that you'd never get stuck on a Mayday (Pivot Fakie) on mini ramp:) I used bridge bolts once they were utter crap, you had smack them in with a hammer and once they were on a board they were pretty much staying there. Also with the lappers and copers if you did a grind on a curb in the 80's and it was 1 inch long you were claiming it, they were supposed to make you grind further but a plastic coper doesn't last that long on even the most waxed curb. They were also prone to coming off the hanger of the truck at the most inconvenient moment usually resulting in a massive slam, in short they were a shit idea that didn't survive the 80s. Also if you ever wore a pair of 80s Airwalks or Vision DV8 shoes you pretty much felt the board by using the force, board feel was a concept not really conceived at that time. They did have a half life of 20,0000 years tho!

Copers allow you to grind on soft aluminum rails. Not a serious problem in America, but super useful in countries like Japan where every rail is made of soft metal that doesn't grind.

Dude, you needed to spend just a bit more time researching copers. They weren't just to protect the truck, they were supposed to protect the coping in pay to skate parks. The owners didn't like having to replace cement pool coping that got worn out by grinding, so some parks had a rule that you HAD to use copers. Surf and Turf in Wisconsin (later just The Turf) being infamous for this....

that winged skateboard must be for butt-boarding only! and can you elaborate more on steel wheels? i've seen them/mentioned them to a friend before but i couldn't find any online and he didn't believe me.

Lol. I'm still stupid. Is a "bigspin heelflip" a laser flip and the body does a 180? Like a laser flip with a body varial? Or is it a laser flip and then you catch it with your feet and then turn 180? Sorry for being so illiterate when it comes to skateboarding terminology. I just love it, love watching it, too old to join in and legs and ankles knackered already.

@munkeeman688

7 жыл бұрын

Maybe this is a more intriguing question... Can someone like myself, who has already broken both legs, both ankles, and torn ligaments in both ankles (basketball accidents as a young man), attempt to try skateboarding for the first time? I'll have to tape the hell out of my ankles. I really want to try to skate because I love it. What are the odds I'm going to hurt my ankles again? Are ankle injuries a common thing among skateboarders?

@mdfkrz79

7 жыл бұрын

Bigspin heel is indeed a lazerflip with 180 body rotation. Can't imagine you'd be able to skate as far as doing tricks go, too easy to roll your ankle or for the board to hit them. Would recommend rolling around in a bowl or something, still easy to damage your ankles from say jumping off if you go to high and roll your ankle on the transition or land heavily near the bottom, could wear vert knee pads and learn to immediately go to your knees I guess.

@zackakin4382

7 жыл бұрын

Munkee Man bigspin heel is laser flip with frontside 180 body varial (bigspin always means that you are rotating in the same direction as the board). If it was a backside body varial, it'd be a laser flip sex change

@munkeeman688

7 жыл бұрын

mdfk79 Thank you for the input. So a bigspin heelflip is essentially a laser flip and the feet catch up 180? I really wish I could join in man. I've been fascinated with skateboarding for over a decade. I can push down the street, it's just don't come close to being able to ollie. I wish I had skated as a kid. My ankles are so weak that I routinely sprain them doing nothing. Old injuries you know? I got up once for the toilet in middle of the night and ended up turning my ankle, fell in the bath. It's a pipe dream really. I can't describe it. Just wish so bad I could roll around and do flip tricks. Thank you for not making fun of me.

@mdfkrz79

7 жыл бұрын

I haven't skated since the early 2000's, too fat and lazy from meds these day's, I don't get why people would make fun of you for your questions, but I guess it is youtube and there are plenty of tools around lol if you had good technique, doing flips on transition could be easy on the ankles, but the flicking motion could still be a problem i guess.

Started skating in 94 and went to the skateshop looking for a double kick tail and bridge bolts. Possibly an ever slick lol!

thanks for pointing out all the shit i was missing for my retro setup! should retitle video top retro skate innovations!!!

The thing about bridge bolts is that older hardware bolts before the had Allen heads they had Phillips heads..which would round out quickly..and with bridge bolts you could put them under your griptape..and only needed one tool.

bridge bolts and trucks changed after the k grind....they were completly impracticle for how skateboarding was changing...one time a friend rammed his bored into a wall and the bolts snapped...both trucks fell off!!!!

What about pizza grip? It worked better than regular black grip tape but when you bailed on vert the deck would take skin off!

I had one of those scooter skateboard things when I was probably 3 or 4. It wasn't the worst thing considering I'm still skating 17 years later

Bridgebolts sucked ass. As anyone says: they would brake, or the made your board brake if you put it on too tight. But it was better than rounded philips heads and you only needed one tool. It was also popular to use just one bridgebolt to mark the nose or tail. There was also the slick boards (witch i liked very much. they were little more heavy but lasted much longer and slided really well), and even aluminium/titanium boards (that got too dangerous after the edge was sharp enough). I always dreamed about Z-rollers too cause you could grind on anything (and they were more smooth like butter, not rusty and sticky ;D It wasnt also uncommon to make your own boards in the 90`s, or fix broken ones with plywood or aluminium plates. People also machined smaller wheels cause they wasnt sold in stores. People also have forgotten that Eastpack got popular too cause they made the first backbags with skateholders and lifetime warranty. There was also skate backbag with speakers, shoes with weed stash and original energy drinks like Black booster (with small left overs from cocaine). Skateboarding was much more fun then, when there was no safety checks for competitions and you could bring your own beer too.

@jamiehamm3676

7 жыл бұрын

hell yeah!!!!!!

Now I want a skate wing for my collection.

I had the skateboard scooter thing when i was like 5 lol. It was just something to ride on at the time. I dont think i ever thought i was gonna learn to do tricks on a skateboard on it

wow! my very first pair of airwalk were of that first series, all black with a small multicoloured area and the black lace-savers. I think it was 1992 or early 1993. i also remember many of those gimmicks... i cant remember precisely which friend of mine was tricked into buying those bridge bolts with the oval plaque, for some reasons i thought about some exotic type of trucks and i kept asking about those for years. This is the first time i see them again ... i mean the rusty ones

@synthandsynth

7 жыл бұрын

Also i remember those lame rip grip things... i had a pink one that i trashed with my early slides. It left an awful stain of glue and sponge material

tx for the video. Hey RAD RAT - what happened to VARIFLEX? I still have a "SPITTLE" with original XPS Signature wheels and NMB Bearings!!!

@Youstix71

7 жыл бұрын

paid the equivalent of $10 for it

Bridge bolts were made so that you didn't have to hold a screwdriver in one side while you twisted the socket wrench on the other. It made it to put your trucks on super fast all you have to do is pop those in and put the nuts on. And really they flatten down to the same level as your bored so they were pretty convenient invention.

those ollie pull-up bands are one of the worst inventions. it won't help you ollie higher unless you already can pop and lift up your legs at the same time, but by the time you can do that, your ollies are already good. the ads show skaters who already know how to ollie, but yank on the pull-up band anyway making it look like it helps, but in reality, they're ollies already stick to their feet regardless. If you can't pop and lift up your legs, it doesn't matter how hard you yank, the board is not coming up if your legs are keeping it down! it also encourages bad habits, like a weird yanking motion with your arm. trying to yank it also prob puts your shoulders in an awkward position. And how is it gonna help with flip tricks, the ones that really matter???

mad thing is I'm sure those wing boards from 80s had names called radrat

Not sure if you ever rode an original P&P boneite ( tar papper) board from the 80's, but if you looked at them the wrong way the layers would separate. Lol it's why nose guards were used.

Bolts upside down used to be called; Suicide Bolts (to help with Oliies etc.)

i had a all aluminimum board that had wooden inserts on the nose an tail. it hurt soooooooo bad gettin a shinner from it

Loved riding down steep roads with the skate wing as a kid. Definitely felt more secure with the wings and handles to hold onto :0