A Prelude to The Hobbit & Lord of the Rings - The Watchful Peace ends - Who is Elrond - Tolkien Lore
We continue with the Third Age of Middle-earth and look into the aftermath of 2nd Sauron's return, which ends the Watchful Peace. It has several consequences, some good, most are bad though. We have the attack on Elrond's wife Celebrían, the War of the Dwarves and Dragons and Gondor under Cirion is almost defeated. But there are also the forces to counter Sauron. The White Council is summoned for the first time by Galadriel and Rohan is founded by Eorl.
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► Sources:
The Lord of The Rings (1954-1955) by J. R. R. Tolkien
The Silmarillion (1977)
The Hobbit (1937; 1951)
Unfinished Tales (1980)
The Letters of J. R. R. Tolkien (1981)
The Peoples of Middle-earth (1996)
The War of The Jewels (1994)
The Book of Lost Tales Part Two (1984)
The Lost Road and Other Writings (1987)
The Shaping of Middle-earth (1986)
Morgoth's Ring (1993)
The Road Goes Ever On (1967) by J. R. R. Tolkien & Donald Swann
History of the Hobbit (2007)
The Nature of Middle-earth (2021)
TolkienGateway.net
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► Time Codes:
Introduction - 0:00
A Few Hints - 1:09
The Watchful Peace - 1:47
The Dwarves in the Watchful Peace - 2:52
The Watchful Peace Ends - 3:55
The One Ring is found & The White Council - 4:46
Sauron's Evil spreads: Gondor is under Pressure (Uruk-hai) - 8:16
Sauron's Evil spreads: Orcs in the Misty Mountains - 11:23
Elrond's and Celebrían's Darkest Days - 12:06
Sauron's Evil spreads: The Balchoth attack Gondor - 17:27
Rohan is Founded - 21:19
The Story of King Brego of Rohan and his Son Baldor- 22:14
The War of the Dwarves & Dragons & Erebor as new Home - 26:28
Outro & Credits - 30:11
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I hope you enjoy the video. There might be some mistakes as always. Thank you to the artists: Kimberly80 Ted Nasmith Jenny Dolfen Art Sara Morello Art Also shout-outs to @GeekZoneMT kzread.info
@andyknights2262
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, on my holidays do the perfect thing for my evening, thanks Chris you are a legend. Andy
@ThePhilosophersGames
2 жыл бұрын
Have great holidays, I hope you enjoyed the video. And thank you as well ^^
@vincedibona4687
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video, TPG!
I appreciate everything you do! You’ve essentially created an entire university level course on Elrond’s history, that’s amazing.
@ThePhilosophersGames
2 жыл бұрын
Than you :) It also kind of feels like that. The script is like 100+ pages by now 😅 It was really a tremendous amount of work to write and produce so far. But we are slowly getting to the end.
*Thank you* Chris!. I’ve been waiting for this and it did not disappoint 🤘
@ThePhilosophersGames
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you as always, happy you enjoyed the video ^^ Though it felt for this one that eh pacing was off at times and sometimes there was too much text on the screen that vanished too fast.
@GreatGreebo
2 жыл бұрын
@@ThePhilosophersGames The pacing was fine and text on the screen works well for your meatier topics. Your videos are brilliant because I can *listen* to them while doing chores/walking etc and I know I won’t be missing any “key” information as your visuals always follow and back up whatever your audio is discussing (and NOT vice versa). This makes your videos relaxing and enjoyable as I’m not continually worried about missing an important piece of information simply because I’m not glued to my screen. (Also, I’m rewatching the video and viewing the screen; For the text, you adequately cover it with your narrative so it doesn’t disappear “too quickly” and leave anyone confused or having to rewind)
I've been eagerly waiting for this one, and your timing is perfect. Thanks, Chris! 👏
@ThePhilosophersGames
2 жыл бұрын
Glad the timing works so well with you. I planned on releasing it Tuesday, but it needed a bit more time ^^ Hope you enjoyed it :)
I always love your Elrond content!
@ThePhilosophersGames
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you ^^ I hope it can complete it this month, but my confidence it not that high. I really still have a ton of stuff to cover.
I listened to this on my cycle to work and loved it. I can't get enough of elrond and middle earth's history. I'll definitely check out your other videos in this series!
I love these videos so much, thanks Chris 👍👍
@ThePhilosophersGames
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, happy you enjoy these videos ^^
Great work, as ever.
@ThePhilosophersGames
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you ^^
Ok, whilst watching your video my thoughts went on a random journey and I got an idea: Meteor Man from the trailer could be... Ælfwine! It would fit. A guy not looking like an elf, doing time travel stuff.
Celebrian must've thought she would have seen Arwen again someday when she sailed west, so this fact makes Arwen's decision to be mortal that much harder.
Thank you so much for another glorious entry! You know, I'm just now kind of thinking there are echos/ripples Down the line between Melian and Luthien and Galadiel, Celebrían , and Arwen but I'm not quite sure where this trend of thought is going. Something about mothers leaving children/those they've mentored at awkward times because of their own weariness, slight parental failures/seeing the results of your choices, and even between Melian and Elrond in the weight that comes with foresight and caution... This is a rather knotted ramble that I'm honestly not sure what I'm trying to get at. But it was brought on by your mention of not Knowing what Galadriel thought of losing her daughter in a way or Celebrian not knowing if she'd ever see Arwen again, as well as Elrond's attempt to heal. I will say that I've always loved how mental trauma isn't just waived off by this. Also thank you so much for weaving in history, timelines, geography, and clarifying some terms (in this case what Easterling could entail) . Top content as always.
@ThePhilosophersGames
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you as as well (for helping out modding the chat). Happy you enjoyed the video. Yes this one had some intense topics and Tolkien really manages to transport them so well in just very few lines and implications, while treating them very plausible and you feel the weight of the trauma. Bzw. do you use discord? I recently created a Chat Mod Role + special Channel on my Discord server for the few chat mods I have. I can imagine you are more than busy with Robert already 😅 And I rudely just "recruited" you in an hour of need 😂 ( discord.gg/SPW68vh ). But yes in case you have some advice or coordination, etc, feel free to join.
@reflectiverambling1148
2 жыл бұрын
@@ThePhilosophersGames Okay first off you are just the sweetest. I haven't used discord in a long time 'cause it would randomly stop working on me. I'm sorry I haven't been able to be at more lately! But I will see if I can get it working. Also you entrusted me with something and I feel very honored with that. And, really, I think we can blame Helen in the end ;)
@ThePhilosophersGames
2 жыл бұрын
haha true yes it's Helen's fault - kind off (also my incompetence of not having enough mods) 😅 I usually use Discord via a browser window. Works quite well, at least on PC.
I never put two and two together, but it might be a parallel that the both the watchful peace and the siege of Angband before the Battle of Sudden Flame both lasted 400 years. I’m sure someone else has pointed this out before but it was an epiphany for me just now
@ThePhilosophersGames
2 жыл бұрын
Good call, now that you mention it. I also did not notice before 🤔
Coffee in hand and ready for this treat!
@ThePhilosophersGames
2 жыл бұрын
haha much fun, hope you enjoyed the video ^^
I feel so bad for Elrond regarding his wife, I know he will see her again but his family was separated and would never be whole again as far as we know.
Nice.
@ThePhilosophersGames
2 жыл бұрын
I hope you like it ^^
Even if it would seem like Saruman invented Uruk-hai in the films, there are Uruks (like in the book) in Cirith Ungol, so it doesn't say werever Saruman did invent them or not in the films.
@ThePhilosophersGames
2 жыл бұрын
Yes I meant it's more an implied thing. I also showed some shots of Mordor Uruk-hai from the films as well. So they are there, but there is not dedicated dialogue for it to dissolve the potential confusion. I know some people believed they were an invention of Saruman, that's why I mentioned it.
It is said that every time the One Ring was used, it was like a beacon to Sauron. It is also said that Smeagol as Gollum used the Ring many times to help him catch prey in the caves under the Misty Mountains. Wouldn’t the One Ring flashing a few times in one place allow Sauron to somewhat pinpoint the location of the Ring? Gollum obviously used it enough that it changed him drastically. Is this ever brought up elsewhere that I just haven’t read yet?
@ThePhilosophersGames
2 жыл бұрын
That's a difficult topic I think. The films are cut in that way, that it seems like Sauron and the Ringwraiths get alerted and know exactly where the One Ring is, if somebody uses it (and there are some hints for that in the books as well), but imo the books are not too conclusive on that. There are only few situations where this is the case and only under very special circumstances Frodo is detected (e.g. on Amon Hen , which is a very special place and in Mount Doom, when Frodo claims the One Ring for himself).
@vincedibona4687
2 жыл бұрын
@@ThePhilosophersGames Thanks for the answer - and FTR, I have not seen the Hobbit movies, only the LOTR ones.
Awesome video as always!! That dislike was accidental! I was aiming for the like button! Keep up the awesome content creation!!!!
I shudder to contemplate the likelihood that the orcs probably gave Celebrían something more than a poisoned wound! What was someone of her noble descent doing travelling in the wild so poorly guarded anyway?
@ThePhilosophersGames
2 жыл бұрын
Hard to say if she was poorly guarded. We don't know how many Orcs attacked. We have no real information what happened to her, which I'm kind of happy about. Some people assume that she was raped or something, but that is in my opinion extremely unlikely. Tolkien explained in Laws and Customs that Elves were able in extreme situations to "rejected bodily life" and pass "to Mandos". "But among all these evils there is no record of any among the Elves that took another's spouse by force; for this was wholly against their nature, and one so forced would have rejected bodily life and passed to Mandos."
@keyboarddancers7751
2 жыл бұрын
It's a tough call. On the one hand, the likes of Sauron, Morgoth, orcs and other evil doers would undoubtedly be no strangers to the most heinous and cruel acts (e.g. the grotesque torture/murders of Gelmir and of Celebrimbor, the regular use of decapitation as punishment or in battle, the depravity of the Kinslayings, the "engineering" of Turin's incestuous relationship with his sister and the application of slavery) and so it would not be surprising for rape to have been as common an occurrence as in any typical pre-industrial societies. On the other hand, despite the vast scope of his legendarium, I just don't think Tolkien was particularly keen on incorporating depictions of or allusions to sexual violence. I think we can probably all agree to quietly acknowledge the Professor's sensitivities in this matter!
Hey Chris, do you have a playlist created with your "who is Elrond" series?
@ThePhilosophersGames
2 жыл бұрын
I have not. I just made one 😅 kzread.info/dash/bejne/i5uFycGlis_UqJM.html
@alexshadowfax1119
2 жыл бұрын
@@ThePhilosophersGames thank you, it makes it much easier to find and rewatch
Did you ever make the final video?
@ThePhilosophersGames
Жыл бұрын
Due to the Rings of Power show getting in the way (and then taking some time off), the last 1-3 parts are still not out yet, but I'm currently working on part 9 and hope it will be the next video that comes out on this channel. Would be great to finish them soon and then focus on Galadriel and other lore topics.
Somehow I got unsubscribed from you. Been a long time fan but I made it back
@ThePhilosophersGames
2 жыл бұрын
Oh that is unfortunate, but glad you found your way to my channel again. Welcome back 😄 Sometimes the ways of YT are unfathomable 😂
When is Elrond?
@ThePhilosophersGames
2 жыл бұрын
😂
@vincedibona4687
2 жыл бұрын
Why… is Elrond?