A new iron curtain in Europe? Finland bolsters border with Russia • FRANCE 24 English
The war in Ukraine has placed new emphasis on the security of nations bordering Russia, not least Finland, who has fought wars against its giant eastern neighbour in the past. Now, Finland is constructing a vast barbed-wire fence along the border, which Helsinki says is necessary to protect itself and monitor those crossing from Russia. France 24's Julien Sauvaget and Clovis Casali sent this report on what may be a new iron curtain forming in eastern Europe.
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Finland is doing the right thing. Love to our brothers and sisters in Finland from Sweden. 🇸🇪🇫🇮
@Nobody-Nowhere
Жыл бұрын
Sadly not. Finns got scammed again. Now that we are in NATO, we cant ever get out. Even though the opposition to NATO 50-60% year after year. And support only around 20%. No referendum, nothing. Joined NATO behind closed doors in a huge rush.
@BladeRunner21577
Жыл бұрын
Their fear is showing thats for sure.
@jooseppib1082
Жыл бұрын
@@BladeRunner21577no fear is showing
@blairmarshall544
Жыл бұрын
@@BladeRunner21577 no one want share there land with Russian peasants. It’s far from fear
@zeanu2015
Жыл бұрын
Finland and Sweden for that matter are irrelevant right now, but they're to be to be relevant by entering the conflict and triggering Article 5
"A new iron curtain?" "A new Berlin wall?" Oh, it is so often forgotten, whenever the ominous "Berlin wall" is used to make comparisons to contemporary borders, that that was built to keep people in, not to keep people out, as in "we have to fence our people in to prevent them from running away". If this wall was built by Russia to prevent Russians from running, then it would be the same as the iron curtain.
@paladro
Жыл бұрын
the iron curtain wasn't just the berlin wall... it was the blanket term for keeping out western influence in warsaw pact nations.
@s.a.3894
Жыл бұрын
Isn't it pretty strange that Putin's Russia doesn't have to shut the borders from it's citizens as "Free world" does it for them?
@Tespri
Жыл бұрын
@@s.a.3894 Putin literally did shut down it's borders
@ivonhiero1676
Жыл бұрын
Do you think Finnishs wanna to running toward Rusia border??? As I knew there is alot of Russians wanna go aboard to avoid mobilisation😮
@inso80
Жыл бұрын
It's a fence. not a wall and it has no military purpose or significance. And the fences are only near border crossing areas.
This war in Ukraine has definitely torn open old wounds in Finland, Russia has thrown away all friendship and good will that was built after WW2.
@theman2624
Жыл бұрын
they forced us to be friendy towards them after ww2. russification
@user-wy5ns3vo9t
Жыл бұрын
В России отношение к финам никак не поменялось, мы как не делали никаких шагов против этой страны так и не делаем. Это там истерия какая то, а может просто пилят бюджет.
@kishascape
Жыл бұрын
It never had any goodwill.
@TakAndrzejPolak
Жыл бұрын
@@user-wy5ns3vo9t Ты продолжаешь повторять свои русские мантры...а Финляндия только начинает защищать свою территорию от предполагаемой нелегальной иммиграции из России.
@vermilion6966
Жыл бұрын
@@TakAndrzejPolak да кому нах-р нужна твоя финляндия xD "предполагаемая нелегальная иммиграция" куришь то же самое что и зелебоба? xD
Bravo Finns!! Greetings from Poland!
@halko1
Жыл бұрын
Poland is doing fantastic job supporting Ukraine. You can be proud of your country!
@jakepistolero
Жыл бұрын
just so you know, i aint paying for the wall.
@Valdek65
Жыл бұрын
@@jakepistolero ur money ur secret
@jakepistolero
Жыл бұрын
@@Valdek65 so you didn't get the reference??
@fht71ole95
7 ай бұрын
Don't let anybody in never again
GO FINLAND. The Finnish contribution to NATO cannot be overstated.
It's funny that Soviets lost more troops fighting Finland than the US lost in entire WW2
@Chaldon-hl6yk
Жыл бұрын
Fun fact - it was ukrainian troops.
@alexsilent5603
Жыл бұрын
Let the US to fight Finns, and Americans will lose more.
@MS-jz9ne
Жыл бұрын
Besides saving private Ryan the US didn't do much in WW2. Russians save us from the Banderas. So basing any conclusion on US losses in WW2 is a delusional exercise.
@kingofdevils
Жыл бұрын
@@alexsilent5603 US did fight Japanese empire and Nazi Germany and lost less than the opponents. So you can get what you want from that
@kingofdevils
Жыл бұрын
@@Chaldon-hl6yk what's the proof and also they did fight with Russian equipment, Russian tactics and under Russian commanders even if they fought
Unlike the conflict Finland and Russia had back during the second world war today the border not only limits the territory for each country but also it marks the border between NATO and Russia.
@zoolkhan
Жыл бұрын
is that you sherlock?
We stand with 🇫🇮👍
@user-yj7um6hv1d
Жыл бұрын
And we don't
@smartguy360
Жыл бұрын
@@user-yj7um6hv1d orc sighted
@zoolkhan
Жыл бұрын
@@user-yj7um6hv1d thats fine, you are allowed to sit down. And you are not a surprise either.
@talkbigdosmall3192
4 ай бұрын
@@smartguy360 west puppy barking 😁
We are with you Finland! We used to be the only NATO force guarding the Northern Front. We are no longer alone. And the same: Finland is no longer alone. We are together in this. Glory to the North! We won't be slaves! We won't be conquered! We won't give up! Never! Big hug from Norway and lots of love to all of you, from me and my cat. 🙂
@zeanu2015
Жыл бұрын
"We are with you Finland! " for what ???? they've lost somebody ???
@inso80
Жыл бұрын
@@zeanu2015 I'm curious, how many kopeks do you make per message on average?
@mysterywalker1621
Жыл бұрын
Strong Scandinvia, EU and Nato 🇸🇪🇳🇴🇫🇮
@itsallminor6133
Жыл бұрын
This is out of control. Suddenly all of Europe thinks Russia wants to attack it. Must be some good drugs
@gazpachopolice7211
Жыл бұрын
@@zeanu2015lol i love your salty tear filled replies in every thread. Cry RuZZi cry
Good on ya 🇫🇮 Finland We love you 🇦🇺🙏🏻🪃
Finland is doing the RIGHT thing!
@fingerprint8479
Жыл бұрын
Sure, a fence against a nuclear armed nation is the best alternative... How comic!
@jibruz
Жыл бұрын
@@fingerprint8479 It’s to control masses of people. The fence will be in the south where there isn’t as much forest and swamps, while in the north, if you really want to cross the border you have to know what you are doing and where you are going.
@fingerprint8479
Жыл бұрын
@@jibruz what massas of people? Are you a comedian as well?
@calisto2735
Жыл бұрын
@@fingerprint8479 The counter to the "nuclear" property is NATO membership, not the fence... But don't feel bad! It's normal for Zbots to misunderstand a lot of things 👍
@inso80
Жыл бұрын
@@fingerprint8479 Your notion of equating fences to nuclear arms would make me say you are being intellectually dishonest, but I refuse to use the word 'intellectual' in any relation to you.
Building a great wall against the dark lands of mordor is understandable.
@inso80
Жыл бұрын
It's a fence near border crossings, not a wall and it is there to control the movement of people, it has no military purpose.
@markhirstwood4190
Жыл бұрын
Actually, Russians are elves too.
@user-zt4zr7eg6z
Жыл бұрын
@@Devi1kinso what?
@user-yj7um6hv1d
Жыл бұрын
Clowns 🤡 No one really cares about your clown country with clown wall 🤡
@sempreviva4564
Жыл бұрын
But you can’t change geography and Finland will also have to adapt to the brand new reality that they themselves made. Like higher prices and taxes, increased tensions along the borders, Iskander missiles, hypersonic missiles and warships with nuclear weapons literally at arm's length from their own home. All of this after 80 perfect years of neutrality. America and its NATO hawks seem to have thrown Finland straight to the front line. Well, as they say, "the worst is yet to come."
Nice work Finland!
Good for Finland 🇰🇷❤️🇫🇮
Greetings from eastern Finland! The fence is also helpful in the case that chaos in russia causes mass fleeing. Will help us to keep order and track the immigrants and possible asylum-seekers. That has happened before you know, after the revolution and after the fall of the ussr.
@anitagorse9204
Жыл бұрын
Every time Russia collapses, which is quite often...
@sshaw4429
Жыл бұрын
US also has a similar problem.
@darkoraonic3445
Жыл бұрын
@@qilunqiaosany Nice right wing ultra nationalism. Are you a racist as well?
@stroitelj
Жыл бұрын
haha . The immigrants and possible asylum-seekers will be waiting in front of the fence.))) You will throw bread over the fence)))) You are cruel people.
@upnorth2421
Жыл бұрын
@@stroitelj haha. We want to keep things organised. There are plenty of crossing points to use.
Much respect to the people of Finland
As an Estonian I'm REALLY HAPPY that Finland and Sweden are joining NATO!!!
@viljanov
Жыл бұрын
Sorry guys, it took us guys quite a long time to get real 🇫🇮🤝🏻🇪🇪
@kiisseli1337
Жыл бұрын
I would be happy if Estonia joined Finland
@joem0088
Жыл бұрын
Wrong. Sweden is not joining any time soon. Erdogan is in and Orban makes it a sure "NO".
@DrScarface74
Жыл бұрын
Yeah you werent be nuked alone 😂👍
@sempreviva4564
Жыл бұрын
✅ I gotta give it to Finland, it’s the 3rd best country in the world when it comes to quality of life. One of the crucial factors is your beneficial stance since WW2, like a bridge connecting West and East. But why did you decide to flush your 80 years neutrality down the toilet and join NATO like there’s no tomorrow? As far as I’m concerned, nobody in their right mind would like higher prices and taxes, increased tensions along the borders, Iskander missiles, hypersonic missiles and warships with nuclear weapons literally at arm's length from their own home. But Finland did, after 80 perfect years of neutrality. America and its NATO hawks seem to have thrown Finland straight to the front line. Well, as they say, "the worst is yet to come." ✅ Finland hasn’t been in NATO for 78 years and you had zero problems with the USSR post-WW2 or Russia since 1991 thanks to ‘finlandization’ which made it possible for you to become a capitalist country and have close ties with the West and neutral relationship with the USSR. Finland was very smart, realistic, determined and forward-looking back then, when it decided to stay neutral and root out anti-Soviet sentiment. It was a genius move. ✅ This quality’s gone to waste, unfortunately. The neutrality since WW2 was key to your successful relations with a big next door neighbour in the east. The consequences of your life-changing decision are gonna haunt you for the rest of your life. I hope you understand that.
The analogy is not apt. The Iron Curtain was created to prevent the oppressed from fleeing to freedom. Finland's fences are designed to protect the free from oppression.
@s.a.3894
Жыл бұрын
Wrong. Finnish fence serves the same purpose as the original Iron curtain. Difference is that this time it is the free world that builds the wall to prevent the oppressed to flee to freedom.
@inso80
Жыл бұрын
The fences are there to direct movement near border crossing areas. It is not a wall or a curtain. It is a fence.
@Manntashsh-Pyrre-ht3bx
Жыл бұрын
Who oppressed Finland? As far as I know, there were very good relations between Russia and Finland, both at the state and at the human level. There were close economic relations between Finland and Russia, and the citizens of Russia and Finland went to visit each other.
@Pemmont107
Жыл бұрын
@@Manntashsh-Pyrre-ht3bx Finland suffered through centuries of continuous war, occupation and threats from Ruzzia. And it was only a few months ago that Ruzzia threatened to destroy them again. There were never "good" relations between the two.
@lasse888
Жыл бұрын
@@Manntashsh-Pyrre-ht3bx Putin did end To all this by starting War In Ukraine. Is that not clear for you?
The citizens of the 5th most democratic country in the world making sure they're not overrun by the govt. and/or citizens of the 146th most democratic country. Finland median income = $US50,480, Russia median income = $US5504.
@xeero24
Жыл бұрын
All the while the rest of Europe is being overrun. Your words not mine. Why so much hate for Russians who will assimilate all the while welcoming economic migrates who hate Europe.
@user-yj7um6hv1d
Жыл бұрын
Money is not everything
@oteleaionutbogdan5381
Жыл бұрын
@@user-yj7um6hv1d Actually it is
@DrScarface74
Жыл бұрын
Would you provide me results of that referendum aboit joining nato in this 5th democraric country? 😂😂😂
@alexp7579
Жыл бұрын
@@DrScarface74 We don't have referendums, we have elections every 4 years. There were 8/200 MP's that voted against the membership. Only 3 of them got re-elected and they are far-leftists that oppose all military stuff in general, not just NATO.
This new wall does not cover the whole border, only some critical areas. And it is not designed to halt a military invasion, but to increase Finland's ability to deal with Russia's hybrid warfare with civilians.
Ukraine should build a wall between it and Russia too. And block off the Kerch Bridge entry to Crimea.
@inso80
Жыл бұрын
That Fence is only around border checkpoints and it's purpose is to control the movement and areas where crossings happen. The fortifications we have are dug into bedrock, we have been digging for 80 years. We like to be prepared.
@markhirstwood4190
Жыл бұрын
No wall will stop Russia from nuking the US and winning. Ukraine won't stand a chance after that.
@gergelyzoltan8422
Жыл бұрын
Crimea is Russian with Russian people.
@etieti8567
Жыл бұрын
Agree..👍👍
@sergueivergounov1961
Жыл бұрын
There was one. How did it help?
Finland is learning from Ukraine's mistake and are not waiting until after Russia lashes out to make preparations for defense.
@s.a.3894
Жыл бұрын
That fence is not for defence. Finns have experience in their history of defending their homeland in wars against slavic hordes pouring over the border trying to occupy their country. Those slavic hordes included also Ukrainians.
@Tespri
Жыл бұрын
fence is not for defence but for preventing Ruzzians secretly immigrating here with their spies.
@inso80
Жыл бұрын
We have known this for a thousand years. We are not "learning" we are leading by example. There is a reason Finland never gave up mandatory service and conscription. We have the strongest artillery in Europe for a reason.
@itsallminor6133
Жыл бұрын
I was unaware that Russia threatened finland. Probably because they didnt. In fact they had good trade relations on the border. From what someone in Finland told me they joined nato in support of ukraine. Basically virtue signaling. Now of course, they've ruined their trade with Russia. Though undoubtedly people are still crossing claiming "personal goods".
@Manntashsh-Pyrre-ht3bx
Жыл бұрын
@@inso80 What thousand years are you talking about. Finland's independence (which they received from Russia) is only 106 years old. Be realistic.
I hope they Finish it quickly.
@guydreamr
Жыл бұрын
The winner of the pun of the day award 🏆
@zapfanzapfan
Жыл бұрын
Badum-tsss!
@mickeyfromhendon4038
Жыл бұрын
Clint B Beware. They might finish you quickly...
@inso80
Жыл бұрын
It's a fence. Yes. It will be quick. Our fortifications on the other hand are not built that fast. We have been building them into the bedrock for over 80 years and we are still not done.
The times of naivety towards Russia are definitely over. Finland can be glad that Russia attacked Ukraine first, because Russia regards Finland as its colony, just like the Baltic States, Ukraine and the whole of Europe.
@duhni4551
Жыл бұрын
Yes and no, should Russia attacked us, the war would have been over already, Russian army would have been decimated in our borders, specially with the skills they have shown in Ukraine. Also we wouldn't had to fight the war alone like Ukraine has to, which would have only hasten Russian defeat. Also unlike Ukraine, we have ready means to bomb even Moscow with missiles if need be. Russian propaganda about some "special operation" would have been impossible and when the war would have shown in Russia, their citizens would have turned against their leadership faster.
@user-yj7um6hv1d
Жыл бұрын
That's a cliche and stereotypical way of thinking. We dislike Baltic countries, nobody sees them as a colony. We see them as annoying neighbors, they are super small and super annoying.
@eoricusaudeles4505
Жыл бұрын
@@user-yj7um6hv1d no one believes you anymore.
@smartguy360
Жыл бұрын
@@user-yj7um6hv1d the feeling is mutual orc
@intermariumfi7460
Жыл бұрын
@@user-yj7um6hv1d You think we don't hear you Russians and your leader say our country never should've existed? You think we don't know how you glorify the mastermind of the genocide against our people, Peter the Demonic as a national hero? You think we don't know who your second biggest city is named after?
Finlands sak är vår!! Leve Norden! 💛💙💛💙💛💙💛💙
Well done. Good reporting. Go Ukraine.
@GOLDEN_ROGER118
Жыл бұрын
SLAVA INFLATION
@jacqdanieles
Жыл бұрын
@@GOLDEN_ROGER118 Slava Kremlin copium😂
@metternich05
Жыл бұрын
Do you realize this coverage is not about Ukraine?
@frankb5953
Жыл бұрын
@@jacqdanieles Ukrop troll detected.
@jacqdanieles
Жыл бұрын
@@frankb5953 fascist invader simp detected
Be safe and well Finland.
It's not an Iron Curtain if it keeps people out not trying to keep them in.
@inso80
Жыл бұрын
It's not to keep people out, it is there to direct people to designated border crossings.
@vomm
Жыл бұрын
The iron curtain analogy is wrong on so many levels.
@DrScarface74
Жыл бұрын
@@vomm exactly very true 😂
@kairosquerencia4011
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, this generation of journalists need some serious history lessons. Theres a never ending use of language out of context.
It seems to me unlike the Iron Curtain they’re trying to keep people out, not force people to stay in, so there’s hardly a comparison.
@inso80
Жыл бұрын
It's not to keep people out. Its there to direct people to the designated border crossing. Has a fence actually ever stopped anyone actually trying?
Τhats brilliant. Well done Finland. Greetings from Greece and our well equipped fence.
The Soviet Union brought down the iron curtain in the 1990s and a new world began to emerge. Now we see that Russia have gone backwards and forced neutral nations to create a new one. The old one lasted some 50 years. It’ll be interesting to see how long this next one lasts.
@bestaghenbertkeushtad7201
Жыл бұрын
🙃 Nice inversion dude. You're hired to the ministry of truth. 2+2=5 damn right!
@fastertove
Жыл бұрын
What new one?
@oksana9488
Жыл бұрын
The Russians looked out from behind the Iron curtain, saw what was going on there.... and they decided to close again from the West side .🤣
Imagine that. Building a fence/wall to secure one’s sovereignty. Who would have thought that.
we don't want it, but we need it. History repeats itself
“Everything is going according to the plan” - Putin, “the greatest strategist” 😂😂😂
@inso80
Жыл бұрын
Plot twist, Putin is actually an agent set to break up russia into smaller pieces.
@jockumt7063
Жыл бұрын
He doesn'y even know his own goals anymore, but states to his brainwashed people all goals have been met 😅
@DrScarface74
Жыл бұрын
Yeah 120 free nations are in Saint Petersburg right now, and western losers are isolated behind the wall. Great job 👍
A lot of countries have fences to keep potentially unfriendly neighbors out. THE Iron Curtain however was made to keep a population in!
@myslithecat
Жыл бұрын
Excactly! And the iron curtain kept everything out, the music, movies, ideas. This is just your average fence to let you know there's a border and with passport and visa you can cross it, unlike the iron curtain that was not so easy to get over.
Love to Finnish People!❤
@rob5197
Жыл бұрын
Love your people first if u can - - - what's this nonsense calling everyone brother and sister, really.?
"At least this time we are on the right side of the curtain" - Poland
@ilinskyus
Жыл бұрын
Missiles still fall down on Poland 😂
The Finns know what Russia is like----and they should take every measure to protect themselves. While their country may not be that large, the Finns have proven they have a strong sense of patriotism and bravery.
@totomorenodosal
7 ай бұрын
as the ukrainians have proven too.
Did that system checked for safety towards birds and animals?
Do not underestimate the recent situation. Finnland is at risk as Russia is only keenly to damage the EU in every necessary possible.
Excellent fence!
Fun fact: if you look at the border in the map, Finland looks like an inverted reflection of the kola peninsula.
@inso80
Жыл бұрын
So seems to be the level of education and quality of living too, not to mention environmental cleanliness, mentality of the people, logistics and just about anything I can imagine.
@incremental_failure
Жыл бұрын
Real Finnish borders extend all the way up to Kola. Even nearly all the place names are Finnish.
Well done to our brothers and sister in Finland! Love and prayers always from the USA
@norapeters7973
Жыл бұрын
Oh. Good. Tell ur own 'president' to keep the usa safe. Dontcha think?? Instead of clapping and whooping for a clearcut Show .. keep the us safe man. Hows that.
@marcomarko1759
Жыл бұрын
WE SHOULD GO BACK IN TIME AND DEPORT YOUR FAMILY FROM THE US BACK TO WHEREVER THEY CAME FROM.....YOU NIGHT'VE BEEN A GYSPY BEGGING AT THIS SAME BORDER,,,,LOL
As an Ukrainian, I'd like to thank Suomi for all the support. Stay safe!
An Iron fence won't do much protecting but it isn't meant for that but to send a message.
Finland remembers about Karelia. Suomi ❤ Greetings from Poland 🇵🇱
You don't need this new 'iron curtain', finns are not running away to Russia.
Way to go Finland 🙌🙌👏
It's not an "Iron Curtin" when your fence is built to keep invaders out, it's an "iron Curtin" when a totalitarian country builds a fence to trap their own people into staying under threat of the misery of Socialism like the former Soviet Union. I hope you can see the difference, although this is France 24, so I have my doubts?
When the average Russian citizen realizes that because of sanctions, the economy is collapsing and there won't be enough money for pensions there will be another surge of people leaving. Finland is just preparing for for the future.
@andrebyche31
Жыл бұрын
Preparing for what? For that which is happened already ?
@spugelo359
Жыл бұрын
@@andrebyche31 For illegal immigration of people hoping for better future. How about use that brains of yours or do you require everything spelled out loud for you?
@user-oz5xr2ju2e
Жыл бұрын
Finland closing from those in risk of forced draft. And taking in african economic migrants. Really "nice" neighbourhood policy, Finland!
@onerva0001
Жыл бұрын
@@user-oz5xr2ju2eyou are not a nice neigbour. Never have been.
If I sit on the train opposite a Finish and a Russian i would not be able to tell the difference.... So why are they fighting? Because old men in the NATO and UN told them to hate each other ?
Only difference in this Iron curtain is is to keep people out not to keep them in like the old Iron Curtain.
Well done, good job brothers and sisters of Finland! 🥰from Australia🦘
Stay strong Finland from America!
Good fences make good neighbours, as the poet Robert Frost said.
Obviously this fence is not going to stop a tank but the remote sensing devices combined with the fence will likely let Finland know when Russian spies or commandos with bad intention or for that matter Russian invasion forces have breached the border and where. I do hope that it doesn't cause problems for Russian dissidents desperately trying to flee Russia for safety.
The best defense is preparation, since you don't know what's ahead, is the best option.
@inso80
Жыл бұрын
That is true, but this video has nothing to do with defense, it is literally directing traffic.
Check Greek Fence to take some ideas for efficient Fences
Awesome ❤
That is good, very good, but question is what about wild animals?
@sergeybebenin
Жыл бұрын
Something tells me wild animals will suffer much greatly if there's a war. Better be on the constant alert and readiness as a reference.
@Chaldon-hl6yk
Жыл бұрын
Orcs not wild.
@guydreamr
Жыл бұрын
Orcs would definitely fall in that category.
@vladislavovich100
Жыл бұрын
@@guydreamr Not funny. I feel bad for animals. Something could be done differently.
@dasboot5273
Жыл бұрын
Yes - the Kremlin must stop the war, withdraw the army from the territory of Ukraine (Crimea too), pay reparations for the restoration of Ukraine and create a 150-kilometer demilitarized zone on its territory along the entire border with Europe. In this case, fences are not needed and the animals will be happy.
Good jobs 👏👏👏
Greetings Russia! No worries, Finland will leave the light on for ya - the searchlight, that is...
@ispeaku759
Жыл бұрын
You will only have torches
@Fillipok
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the Russians and the Finns are enemies now. Well, it was nice to be friends with you. I hope that everything will be limited to the termination of cooperation between our countries.
@Tespri
Жыл бұрын
@@ispeaku759 Even torches would be more than what ruzkiez have.
@ispeaku759
Жыл бұрын
@@Tespri german nazis thought likewise in 1941. Now their dads rest in pieces.
@cristiangaban960
Жыл бұрын
@@ispeaku759 Now Russians are the fascists, well done .
the border fence is a total joke. And yes, it was EXPENSIVE
Unlike the iron curtain, this is ment to keep the russians out not in :D
Helsinki Conference on cooperation and security in Europe. Final act. Observe it, please. The USSR never ceased to exist.
@inso80
Жыл бұрын
It seized to exist. A lot of russians just did not realize it. It can be said, like Putler did, that the cold war never ended, but that is because the russians didn't make it so.
@duhni4551
Жыл бұрын
If USSR didn't ceased to exist, more there reason there is for that fence.
Thumbs up from Canada Finland :O)
That little thin fence is not gonna stop them😂
@ZombehFest
Жыл бұрын
The fence isn't for stopping Russia's military. That's what the nukes are for :)
Compared to the fence we've build in Greece for the same reasons, this one seems flimsy.
Great job Finland....
Good. It worked the first time around.
I hope so
Great job Finland! 🇸🇪🇫🇮🗽
What a nice looking fence too. It blends in nicely with all the natural green.
That won't keep armor out, so anti armor mines had better be put down along with Armor obstacles.
@idr121
Жыл бұрын
It's meant to stop Russia from sending refugees to Finland.
There’s an iron curtain in Northern Ireland. Been there for decades.
🤔 Finland's border fence seems way more sensible and effective than the atrocity that is the Texas border wall.
@bayafrica5909
Жыл бұрын
You made a poor comparison because the fence was built to keep Mexicans from entering the US & migration control can never be termed as atrocities. 🤓
@pohanahawaii
Жыл бұрын
@@bayafrica5909 : 😬 Texas border wall is ugly, impractical, too expensive hence unfinished and thus ineffective. 😏 People can just go around it. 🕵Finland's fence is reasonable, blends in with nature, quick to build, and easy to enforce.
@bayafrica5909
Жыл бұрын
@@pohanahawaii It's funny you're calling the "unfinished Texas border wall" as US atrocities. Try another spin next time Amigo.
@jeckjeck3119
Жыл бұрын
@@bayafrica5909 If it doesn't do its job, it is an atrocity. But it not doing its job is basically all of GOP policies in a nutshell.
@neolexiousneolexian6079
Жыл бұрын
@@bayafrica5909 Wow you're fragile. Clearly they didn't even mean "atrocity" as in war crime, but more as in "monstrosity", "disaster", "fiasco", etc.
Now Europe need to do the same but at the middle east and African Borders
@thegreatdane3627
Жыл бұрын
yup
@alexfreimanis22
Жыл бұрын
Agree...electric fenses an auto turrets😂
@alexfreimanis22
Жыл бұрын
Or we could lay mines in the water so they could blow up those rubber boats
@gfys756
Жыл бұрын
Nope. Europe needs more diversity and cultural enrichment. 💪🏿☪️👍🏿
@YouTube.watcher..
Жыл бұрын
Yep come and get the oil yourself otherwise your car is not gonna work 🎉
no wire at the top left at 0:46
@angrylionlion6109
Жыл бұрын
Спасибо за наводку, дружище. Я выезжаю
Great
Welcome into the EU NATO Family of Nations! Your Innovation, Humanity and Courage are LEGEND! The opinion that You Finns enjoy the best Quality of Living is without doubt an attribute that shall enhance the Lives of all Europeans. May the future Russia be eventually modelled after Your Finnish example. 😎
@inso80
Жыл бұрын
Thank you. It is not every day that people actually understand our purpose and leadership.
@inso80
Жыл бұрын
I feel like asking that are you familiar with U.K. Kekkonen and his legacy? Because you sound like the rare breed that could be familiar with that.
@gringo1723
Жыл бұрын
@@inso80 just did a quick refresher via googling U.K.Kekkonen; the man had a tremendous influence in the formation of modern Finland- seems he has both positive as well as negative attributes to his name. One point that stood out for me was the man's recommendation that in 1940 he voted against the Moscow Peace treaty, obviously not trusting the Soviets. Yet he maintained peaceful relations with the Russians during his long period of governing. As in all things, an individual(as well as a Nation) may be viewed over time as experiencing a process of change. That Kekkonen was a unique individual is without doubt.
Pity the rest of Europe doesn't do the same, and as for the USA so near yet so far, we'll learn the hard way as we always do, Finland setting an example.
@inso80
Жыл бұрын
We like to lead by example. And it is just a fence to help control the movement of people near border crossing areas. We have similar fences for deer and moose near crossing areas in our highways for pretty much the same reason, to direct the movement to designated areas so everything can be handled efficiently. The border is 1350km. No point for walls or fences militarily, we have been digging the fortifications into the bedrock for 80 years. The fortifications are already there. But following our example might be a good idea in other areas. Especially education, which is one of the cornerstones of a functioning society.
@filipe5722
Жыл бұрын
Most of Europe doesn't border Russia.
@vomm
Жыл бұрын
The Baltic States and Poland did the same already, what are you talking about?! Others don't border Russia.
@davidoldboy5425
Жыл бұрын
@@vomm No but they border countries these are coming from
@vomm
Жыл бұрын
@@davidoldboy5425 Yes, but they also border countries that are in the Schengen area. Do you want to abolish the Schengen area because of some Russians or what?
Finland should get back that 10%, plus interest..
The fence with my neighbours is more robust than that , no barbwire though 😂
Its great to see Conan Obrien visiting Finland again too educate the new generations of Fins in european defence politics.
@inso80
Жыл бұрын
You mean Finns educating rest of the Europe in effective defense policies instead?
@inso80
Жыл бұрын
Every generation of Finns are educated on civic defense or have military training. And it has been so, for a 100 years.
@Menape
Жыл бұрын
@@inso80 nah, im pretty sure its Conan Obrien. I can clearly see him with my own eyes in the video educating young Fins.
@inso80
Жыл бұрын
@@Menape Oh, now i get it. Olipa pitkät piuhat.
It's very funny to see that. Finland was not guarding really its own border for decades cause Russians were guarding their side. On the Russian side there's a heavy complicated defence barrier area from Soviet era, and all the illegal immigrants were stopped on Russian side. Also in Russia along all the border with Finland there's wide restricted area were nobody could walk freely. So the fence is absolutely useless thing. But if Finland's authorities have too much money, they denefinitely could spend it for a nice and useless fence
Are you trying to tell me walls work?
Nice to see
Good for you Finland,that is the way to do it.
Fences don't stop tanks, they stop people. The Nordics just never say the quiet part loud.
@tobiaslundqvist.71
Жыл бұрын
Excuse me?! The Nordic countries are known for not accepting fleeing people? Really??? Dude!! 😂😅
@behemoththekitty
Жыл бұрын
@@tobiaslundqvist.71 Fences are famously known for being of great help to those who flee oppression. You've practically oozing acceptance.
@viljanov
Жыл бұрын
@@behemoththekittyThis fence is designed to prevent a similar scenario where Belarus weaponised asylum seekers against Poland two years ago.
@behemoththekitty
Жыл бұрын
@@viljanov funny you mention that incident because back then UN and EU cricitized Poland's response to the incident. Poland's response was to built a fence.
@viljanov
Жыл бұрын
@@behemoththekitty What do you think the EU should do to prevent such operations?
This has nothing to do with hydraulic presses?!?
The fence should be 20.000 volts
We need more of these in europe great job finland greetings from the netherlands
@aristosalekou8300
Жыл бұрын
Thousands if not millions have died for one united and free Europe, we dont need borders, we need bridges.
Way to go finland nice to see glory to ukraine ❤❤❤❤❤
@thomastruong8382
Жыл бұрын
ruins are glorious?
I remember a similar wall by Arsenyy Yatzenouk, then PM of Ukraine. How did it help Ukraine?
why the EU is not outraged? we did the same and all were outraged
heh i remember when in Poland we were building wall on Belarusian border, western medias and politicians were crying in outrage about fascism and human rights violation, now when Finns are doing same thing ( and baltic countries + Ukraine as well ) somehow same medias and politicians are silent. Wonder why, maybe something to do with double standards :)
@theRAV4000
Жыл бұрын
gościu to była zupełnie inna sytuacja, wypychaliśmy ludzi z powrotem do lasu
@yansed666
Жыл бұрын
@@theRAV4000 gościu, tak się dzieje gdy chcesz przekroczyć zieloną granicę. Niech sie cieszą że nie dostali kulki w łeb bo dokładnie to by ciebie spotkało gdybyś chciał przez las na białoruś lub do królewca się wbić. Gościu.
@hendrikbijloo
Жыл бұрын
Possibly you’ve receiver a handpicked selection that have the impression that there was outrage. I live in the West and most defenitely did not perceive it as outrage! Some fairly mild criticism if people were pushed back over the bordet, but certainly not with regards to building a fence and preventing people from illegaly crossing the border that way.
@theRAV4000
Жыл бұрын
@@yansed666 nie zmienia to faktu że sytuacja nie jest porównywalna i to jest głupota to porównywać Bez względu na poglądy moje czy twoje takie rzeczy się u nas działy a w Finlandii nic takiego miejsca nie ma.
@Solid_Snake88
Жыл бұрын
I am western (italian) and i love poland building a WALL! Illegal immigration is not a human right. Especially from nations threatening to Nuke europe.
Great job. Know the history and do what has to be done to protect your country. Bravo from the USA
BUILD THAT WALL!
Fence is great, now we just needs some ai controlled survaliance and weapons systems that can detect and take out every threat
Imagine a world without Putin. With a democratic peaceful Russia. Too bad.
@eclatinternational.875
Жыл бұрын
You have no knowledge about the world. Putin is the most peaceful Russian politician. I'm a Nigerian living in Russia i can tell you that with proves. Be careful what you wish for.