'We can't trust them': Anti-Russia sentiment grows in Finland • FRANCE 24 English
Finland shares a 1,300-kilometre border with Russia. During the Cold War and until recently, its so-called "Finlandisation" doctrine meant neutrality, but the war in Ukraine has changed everything. Today, Finland is on its guard. Anti-Russian sentiment runs strong among the population, which has not forgotten the country's previous armed conflicts with Moscow, as FRANCE 24’s team on the ground reports.
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they call it 'anti-russian sentiment'. In Finland you call it 'common sense'.
@pavelslutsky3114
Жыл бұрын
In Russia we call it Goebbels pride. Sure, he would be proud of Europeans today.
@haven_lady675
Жыл бұрын
Centuries of being colonized and being bullied, I understand why.
@haven_lady675
Жыл бұрын
@@pavelslutsky3114 "We"? What? You become a commie now?
@st-ex8506
Жыл бұрын
@@pavelslutsky3114 If someone is imitating Goebbels today, it is definitely ruSSian state propaganda. It would make the old doctor proud!
@andresr.viguera9791
Жыл бұрын
@@pavelslutsky3114 In Russia basically you have a big epidemic of self-projecting at the moment
There is a reason why Finland continued with their military build-up after the Cold War when the rest of Europe ditched their militaries instead.
@jonydory622
Жыл бұрын
💯 they know
@ThomasWright-jw6eo
Жыл бұрын
Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me
@Balnazzardi
Жыл бұрын
At the same time its good to remember that Finland also did everything during Cold War to appease Soviets....thus the term "Finlandization" And Im saying this as a Finn, we just have to be honest with our history and during Cold War Finn political leaders did everything possible to have as good ties with Soviet Union as it was possible, except joining Warsaw Pact...and thus we didnt join EU until in 1995 and it took monumental shift in security situation for us to join NATO...thats how hard struck the "Finlandization" was here. You could ofc say Finland played it smart back then during Cold War, and even more so after Soviet Union fell apart by keeping our defense forces not only in good shape but impoving them beyond what was possible during Cold War, but either way the good thing to remember that during Cold War days Finland would have done nothing to aid country invaded by Soviet Union because we would have done everything possible to appease them.
@handlesarefeckinstupid
Жыл бұрын
Yes, because it was tiny compared to the rest of Europe and they distanced themselves from NATO
@aviira
Жыл бұрын
@@Balnazzardigreetings from Estonia
Finland remembers its history.
@vesakaitera2831
Жыл бұрын
Ed C, true, and that is one of the biggest reasons, why there still exists a country called Finland.
@Katoshi_Takagumi
Жыл бұрын
Except what it conveniently forgets. Something it has in common with almost every other country, though, to be honest.
@oldbloke135
Жыл бұрын
@@Katoshi_Takagumi What, that a few Russians lived there once, so it is now part of Russia forever. The same way as the USA is part of Britain? That's not the way things work in the civilized world.
@mv_5878
Жыл бұрын
@@Nobody-Nowhere Actually Hitler never wanted to annex or destroy Finland, so German victory wouldn't have been disaster for Finns.
@SergeyPRKL
Жыл бұрын
@@Nobody-Nowhere Soviets didn't defeat Finland. Finns just gave "lost" some forest to them and kept their Independence. EVERY russias european neighbor were invaded for 50 years, except Finland.
History confirms Finland's attitude to Russia is correct. 🔱
@jimcazador6057
Жыл бұрын
You don't know history very well then.
@IbnBahtuta
Жыл бұрын
@@jimcazador6057 If you must post, could you at least make it an intelligent post. 🤣
@alvarosantos78
Жыл бұрын
@@jimcazador6057 Do I feel a distinct communist scent?
@tichtran8792
Жыл бұрын
Stalin had a TREATY with Hitler.
@st-ex8506
Жыл бұрын
@JZ's BFF There was a time when allying with an enemy against a greater enemy was the ONLY option! Do judge history by putting yourself in the given situation, at the given time. Judging history from your sofa in 2023 is all too easy... and dead wrong. At the time, the Finns had no better choice!
We in the Baltics have the same shared history and remain united. 🇱🇹🇪🇪🇱🇻🇫🇮
@anssiluomaranta34
Жыл бұрын
You were smart to join NATO when you did. We should have done the same long ago. Oh well... at least we kept our defences up.💪
@onerva0001
Жыл бұрын
Finally together in NATO!
@justus_x
Жыл бұрын
It's always better to get an umbrella before it starts to rain
@ingvarlin5401
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, all four ex-fascist supporters
@accarze3645
Жыл бұрын
@@luciuscornelius4037 Bro, you high?
If you invade, threaten and bully your neighbours and blatantly lie about everything, you shouldn't expect sympathy. Simples.
@pauldhaasbroek
Жыл бұрын
U talking about USA or UK?
@mv_5878
Жыл бұрын
@@pauldhaasbroek Russia/USSR has invaded so many countries that no whataboutery is needed.
@mv_5878
Жыл бұрын
@@Nobody-Nowhere USSR was allied with Nazis until 1941 and they invaded Poland together. What goes around comes around ;)
@yellowscott
Жыл бұрын
@@pauldhaasbroek You sound about as smart as pootin!!
@pauldhaasbroek
Жыл бұрын
@@yellowscott are u a 5y o? Well u as smart as Biden
The majority of Finns have never trusted our eastern neighbour.
@Tamachii12
Жыл бұрын
Well can anyone blame them ?
@arikotiranta2689
Жыл бұрын
Russia can look at mirror.
@haven_lady675
Жыл бұрын
Baltics too. Hell Latvia has a gay president and we all know how the Russians feel about that 😏
@hfricke2661
Жыл бұрын
@@msdgroup9164 lol another try to split us in the west... sorry, try again
@Duhclay
Жыл бұрын
@MSD Group
"Anti-Russia" otherwise known as logic. 😂
@lukeamato2348
Жыл бұрын
The Finns are very logical people
@CyberBeep_kenshi
Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@jonburton9411
Жыл бұрын
The only anti logic is your comment
@suicidalbanananana
Жыл бұрын
@@jonburton9411 Okay Sergey Burton, thanks for the help!
@thrillereighties8241
Жыл бұрын
Anti-Russia" otherwise known as US propaganda. Fixed it for you.
1:32 I agree with the Finnish gentleman, it's the people of Russia who keep the dictator in power, the majority support him, therefore they're to blame.
@AbbeyRoadkill1
Жыл бұрын
No doubt there is a percentage of Russians who don't support Putin but won't say it openly because they're scared of the repercussions. That said, I bet that half (or very close to half) of the Russian population fully supports him.
@borisstanislav4560
Жыл бұрын
@@AbbeyRoadkill1 60 % fully support the dictator, the rest dgaf or are too afraid.
@suicidalbanananana
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. As much as i want to give them the benefit of the doubt, i just cant anymore, several neighboring countries have literally given them recent examples of how you deal with a government like that (mass riots instead of a few dozen people at a time) and they still dont care enough about THEIR OWN COUNTRY AND FUTURE to do something, let alone all the atrocities committed by their child soldiers. At this point its really hard to see the Russian government as separate from the Russian civilization. Im glad to see these "rebel" groups stand up recently, but i fear they are greatly outnumbered by Russians that either dont care or actually support the government.
@andrewcrus
Жыл бұрын
@@borisstanislav4560 this cannot be, we all know that their elections are fake and no one actually voted for Putin, how then can 60% support him?
@stevemcgowen
Жыл бұрын
@@andrewcrus you clearly don’t know many Ruzzians. The vast majority support the war, their dictator and think they are fighting the West in a great patriotic war. These people have been like this for generations and never change…
Finish citizens seem to be well informed and awesome people. They have suffered from Russian imperialism so they know what they are talking about.
@romanz9342
Жыл бұрын
still hurst I guess🤣
No matter what else happens in this war, Finland going from neutral to NATO will be seen by history as a major defeat for Russia.
@Katoshi_Takagumi
Жыл бұрын
True. This is probably one of the key elements of Putin's legacy.
@josephstalin9357
Жыл бұрын
Finland hasn't been neutral since the 1990s
@Katoshi_Takagumi
Жыл бұрын
@@josephstalin9357 No, but they were non-aligned till 2023, though. Things changed with the not inconsiderable help of Mr. Putin. In recent memory, no one else has done more to promote NATO than Mr. Putin.
@frankhoffman3566
Жыл бұрын
@@josephstalin9357 ... I've been to Finland. This was some time ago. The Finns I talked to then saw no threat from Russia. Whatever the official state position was, they saw themselves as neutral. Look, before this current war started, Russian media was openly discussing which nation would be next after Ukraine. All border nations picked up these transmissions. It is no shock that Finland and Sweden looked at that and said NATO. Now Moldova and Ukraine are becoming more vocal on their desire to join. Other former Soviet republics are also - including GEORGIA, the birthplace of STALIN.. Putin created this movement.. Whatever else happens in Ukraine, this will stand out as Putin's failed legacy.
@bambinaforever1402
Жыл бұрын
Finland actually never was neutral. Finns were always antirussians. But there were so many politicians bought by russians. I m disgusted
"We can't trust them" words spoken by all of Russias neighbors. NATO is a collection of countries that don't trust Russia. When mistrust expands, NATO expands. Russia is not trustworthy.
@countsmyth
Жыл бұрын
Who trusts Nato?
Жыл бұрын
NATO is a collection of countries who like the taste of murica's boots.
@YT-mn4eq
Жыл бұрын
@@countsmyth the developed world 🌎
@CyberBeep_kenshi
Жыл бұрын
@@countsmyth sane people.
@aquaminesands6141
Жыл бұрын
The same words spoken by Napoleon which was as true then as now.
Old Finnlander saying "A Russian is a Russian even if you fry him in butter".
The Finnish are a very smart people, proud to welcome them in NATO !
@aa1greg
Жыл бұрын
Cringe
@theflipeechestlanjao7754
Жыл бұрын
@@aa1greg Finland is already in NATO cope 🤗
@matejasaric22
Жыл бұрын
You are all degenerates
@user-mj7dt8of8e
Жыл бұрын
@@ax1066a-ghd2 Are you suggesting not to let the Russians in, that is, to discriminate on the basis of nationality?
@sonnyblc7287
Жыл бұрын
@@user-mj7dt8of8e yes
Finns have never forgotten how the Red Army attacked them in 1939. Of course they don't trust them.
@mv_5878
Жыл бұрын
Russians haven't forgotten that attack either. For a reason.
@stefansollberger5658
Жыл бұрын
But the time has changed since then. The same thing you could also say about the German. They attached in 1914 and in 1939....of course history is a bit more complicated...
@signorasforza354
Жыл бұрын
@@mv_5878 well ruzzkie are trying to forget but it’s hard to. Too painful for them 😊
@signorasforza354
Жыл бұрын
@@stefansollberger5658 Lmao, clown
@saulimikkola6451
Жыл бұрын
Ruskies also started Continuationwar.
When i was just a small kid my Finnish uncle would sometimes say "remember Never trust the russians" Some deep wounds left in his generation. Wounds that were never forgotten and made them wiser. I would kinda laugh at those times until it was proven to be right, now i will pass down those words when it is appropriate.
@B1gLupu
Жыл бұрын
It sounds much better in original Finnish "Ryssään ei ole luottamista"
@billybonds4449
Жыл бұрын
Your uncle was a very wise man indeed.
@mankki53
Жыл бұрын
@@B1gLupu "Ryssä on ryssä, vaikka voissa paistais" used to my aunt say. She had to leave Viipuri as a child, like my father.
@oldbloke135
Жыл бұрын
I feel quite guilty about laughing at the "anti-Russian paranoia" you see in 1950's American movies. It turns out they were right all along!
@Anthony-jo7up
Жыл бұрын
@oldbloke135 Exactly. The US figured out the Soviets from Day 1, and when we collapsed them, we figured it was over. What a mistake it was to build up Russia and China, and what a mistake it was to diminish our military and industrial capabilities.
The question I've asked myself is, "Could Russia become a reasonable neighbor even if Putin wasn't in power?" And I can't honestly say that it would be any different. If it wasn't Putin, some other Russian strongman would take his place. I'm not saying that all Russians are like this, but the Russian government has done its best to drive any opposition out of the country. Generations of Russians who might have been able to reshape Russia have left the country, been imprisoned or murdered. Even the war in Ukraine with thousands of their own sons dying, from reactions I've seen they're either too scared to say anything or completely apathetic. As long as Russian culture stays unchanged they'll continue to have this type of leadership.
@suicidalbanananana
Жыл бұрын
Its gonna take a few generations for the average Russian to develop common sense and mutual respect, that much is certain.
@JRBendixen
Жыл бұрын
The US can fund UN. Its NATO that is the big item on the budget. Then there is the US pasific presense which is just as big as the NATO one.
@JRBendixen
Жыл бұрын
Why on earth would you want to destroy the US?
@Katoshi_Takagumi
Жыл бұрын
It's about whether Russia will become a western democracy or not, and what it takes for Russia to get there. Obviously, the time Mr. Putin has been in power, and the war in particular, have made reaching that goal nearly impossible. I wouldn't want to bet on any outcome.
@oldbloke135
Жыл бұрын
It is a multi generational thing. Sheep used to be able to defend themselves. Shepherds killed the aggressive sheep and now they can't survive without the shepherd. They don't even notice that the shepherd kills their babies. The Soviet Union and now Putin's Russia have been breeding sheeple for fifteen generations.
Bro even china doesnt trust russia
@tnickknight
Жыл бұрын
It should be the other way around, as it's only a matter of time before China starts to liberate parts of Russia
@slimjimnyc270
Жыл бұрын
@@tnickknight To paraphrase Putin, "China only wants Russian land which was historically part of China."
@MsNinich
Жыл бұрын
Oh, lake propaganda is all that h have in the West. So sweet
@tnickknight
Жыл бұрын
@@MsNinich I think the mountain of dead thanks too Putin might think otherwise
@fz7091
Жыл бұрын
@@MsNinich Lake lol
Joining nato was definitely the right decision. We are both stronger by it. 🇳🇱❤🇺🇦
@Piccyman1
Жыл бұрын
@MSD Group With what army?🤣
@Jahvec
Жыл бұрын
@MSD Group Have you ever heard any objections of CSTO growing from the west? Find me one.
@vm6418
Жыл бұрын
As a citizen of Finland Nato is not welcome in Finland regardless of your negative thoughts. Go away Nato Finland does not need you.
@mrchoudhury6611
Жыл бұрын
And we seen how it reflects in Finland election 😂
@user-xq2pl1fp1n
Жыл бұрын
Finland will spend billions of euros to attack the next Yugoslavia, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan together with NATO
Love Finland. Wish they were our neighbor in the states
@duhni4551
Жыл бұрын
We are not that far if you look at it through Arctics =D
People of Finland, there are 30 countries having your back, don't be afraid.
@MTMF.london
Жыл бұрын
The Finns have never been afraid of anyone. They will fight to the death for their country - SISU is in their blood. Joining NATO is a practical insurance policy against a historically aggressive country with imperialist ambitions.
Neither Finns or Swedes have ever felt any love for Russia. The hatred against Russia in both countries is well established since centuries . The difference between today and two years ago is that we once more express ouer true feelings .
@Katoshi_Takagumi
Жыл бұрын
After the Bolshevik revolution in 1917, the Finns murdered and looted the refugees escaping Russia. I don't have much sympathy for such 'true feelings'.
@BlutoandCo
Жыл бұрын
@@Katoshi_Takagumi and i cant find a single source for that, other than ruSSia propaganda. How strange.
@jespergranstrom5267
Жыл бұрын
@@Katoshi_Takagumi probly some anti-finnish propaganda u only see in russians books. why? becuse their not true.
@Ks73468
Жыл бұрын
Russophobia is a bad look, at least we finally see through the facade of liberal, tolerant Europe
@trogdortpennypacker6160
Жыл бұрын
@@Katoshi_Takagumi Finland I believe at the time had it owns internal civil war going on with Finnish communists until 1918. Could have played a factor? Finnish history is a bit of an unknown though to me I admit. As it's a pretty minor country though I've never looked into the country's history nor is it covered in mainstream history books.
As a New Zealander with Finish ancestry, bloody proud of the Finns. You as a country showed Russia , 80 plus years ago not to mess with you and if you do it will cost you dearly.
@aleksiheija8170
Жыл бұрын
Yep. Also ever since WWII ended Finland has prepared for an another invasion. In other words 80+ years of preparation. Everything Finland has built it built it with a russian invasion in mind. Nearly every single apartment building, store, library, church etc. Has a bomb shelter in it. Kilometers and kilometers of underground bunkers and tunnels under the biggest cities. Helsinki alone has an underground facility that can house over 900k people. Bridges are built with a place for mines so they can be destroyed quickly and easily. Roads are built in a manner that every road eastward is like a funnel where a coming invasion is easy to stop. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
@Kamellion
Жыл бұрын
Always trust the power of PERKELE. It will never fail you!
@signorasforza354
Жыл бұрын
@@aleksiheija8170 You are unbelievable people.
@BoloH.
Жыл бұрын
A Kiwi with a Finnish ancestry is probably the last thing I expected to hear anywhere ever
As long as Sweden exist Finland will never be alone, we will always be by their side🇫🇮❤🇸🇪
@mandelorean6243
Жыл бұрын
Just tell Sweden, it'd be really nice if they stopped selling critical war parts for evil aggressor countries, somewhere between invading and genocide should've been the last straw
@jtkfox4717
Жыл бұрын
Hmm... does 1939 remind you of something? If I'm not so wrong Sweden didn't do that much when USSR invaded Finland.
@CyberBeep_kenshi
Жыл бұрын
Sweden joins nato soon i hope. Then you have even more friends that have your back 😊 🇳🇱❤🇺🇦
@jtkfox4717
Жыл бұрын
Or anyone else for that matter. Norway didn't do anything or US, UK, France the only thing they did was talking. And as everyone know, Talk is cheap.
@jtkfox4717
Жыл бұрын
@@mandelorean6243 What about the rest of the world did that, like US, UK, France, China, Russia and a lot of other country's, Sweden does not sell that much compared to US,Germany, China, Russia or France.
Just a bit of context: the Soviet Union invaded Finland under pretty much the same pretext Russia is using right now. And despite Finland giving the Soviets a bloody nose, they still ended up losing territory. So their attitude is surprisingly pacifist considering the circumstances.
@OurThirdPlanet
Жыл бұрын
May be this territorial gains saved Saint-Peterburg from been destroyed, when Finland allied with Hitler sieged the city. The north border of russian novgorod is a long discussion, this year is 700 years of the oldest document, Treaty of Oreshek, established the border between Sweden and Novgorod.
@p.strobus7569
Жыл бұрын
@@OurThirdPlanet But maybe the war to gain the territory made a neutral neighbor into someone who sought revenge against the USSR for its unprovoked war. And while we’re talking about history, the USSR allied with Hitler to invade Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia.
@Zubbidubbi
Жыл бұрын
@@OurThirdPlanet Lets not forget that Saint-Peterburg would had had nothing to worry about from Finns, we are not imperialists who crave other peoples land like Russians. The whole winter war started by no notice from Soviet Union, but fire bombing Helsinki civilian targets, and the very first victim of the war between Soviet Union and Finland was 7 years old little girl. Shows the trend they still keep up, murdering innocent civilians who pose no threat to them.
@Kmasse8
Жыл бұрын
”Bloody nose” is a pretty diplomatic expression for around a million soviets dead.
@alexanderqwarfordt2037
Жыл бұрын
I think the finnish nationalism, or atleast patriotism is very subtle and quietly talked about compared to other cultures.
If pootin attacks Finland I will be the first foreign volunteer to fight for my brothers... and Im German!
@romanz9342
Жыл бұрын
make sure you let mommy know first, okay ?
In reality Finns just continue being wary and alert about possible Russian hybrid operations. That's it. Russia has pretty good track record for making people distrust it, so they can blame themselves
"Anti-Mordor sentiment grows in the Middle Earth. Mordor dismisses it as propaganda and proceeds to behead children, while talking about the infinite and long awaited benefits of a multipolar world".
Greetings to the Finnish people from Bulgaria
@intermariumfi7460
Жыл бұрын
🇫🇮❤️🇧🇬
Finland is a Great Nation , and is now a member of the great West and all Free Nations of this World , Long live Finland .
@kimmorepo6870
Жыл бұрын
@Vel ez Al Asif don't cry, nothing.
@mikkojnen1110
Жыл бұрын
Actually we have already been a member of the west. At least we like to think so. Western country but not a member of NATO until now.
@eln5343
Жыл бұрын
Only 6 000 BC kids remember that the ancestors of the Uralic people came from North Asia
@butterflies655
Жыл бұрын
Finland was always a western country.
@diamondsarenotforever8542
Жыл бұрын
@@eln5343 All the europians came from Asia. By the way Finns are the blondiest ppl in the world.
As a Pole the only what I can say, it is fully approval to Finnish position. I'm happy Finland decided to join NATO. We recognize Finland as strong ally. Greets and respect from Poland.
@mv_5878
Жыл бұрын
Czesç! ✌️
@revolution1423
Жыл бұрын
So the Americans can continue to supervise Europe? Russia isn't your enemy.
@erikafinland2162
Жыл бұрын
Thank you 💗 we stand together with you ALWAYS against the evil in the East..
@henriikkak2091
2 ай бұрын
❤
Good stuff Finland 👍
Our prayers go to Finland verry beautiful country and very strong people
@Blaindworld
Жыл бұрын
Hii sir my from bangladesh my i lost my house plz help mee
@jmespoo
Жыл бұрын
Kind of you, thank you, Ryan Davis!
@sepi477
Жыл бұрын
No need for prayers, at least for now
@Blaindworld
Жыл бұрын
@@jmespoo plz help me
@a.p.3004
Жыл бұрын
Don't send your prayers to Finland as 90% are not believing. The Scandinavian countries are nearly atheist.
Well the Finns know their bloodthirsty neighbor quite well.
Thank you Putin for recruiting Finland to NATO.
@KirosanaPerkele
Жыл бұрын
@@sanyafrag1 Will have to? We have been buying weapons from NATO countries long before joining.
@sanyafrag1
Жыл бұрын
@@KirosanaPerkele Therefore, the United States celebrates Independence Day, but Finland does not 😂
@KirosanaPerkele
Жыл бұрын
@@sanyafrag1 Except Finland does celebrate its Independence day.
@sanyafrag1
Жыл бұрын
@@KirosanaPerkele nominal holiday) but Finland is not independent, it is a colony) there is nothing of its own in Finland, except for fish sprats
@KirosanaPerkele
Жыл бұрын
@@sanyafrag1 Except Finland is independent.
I by no means hate Russia, but I share that gentlemans sentiment. Russians not daring to demonstrate against Putin in public I can understand, but at least the Russian people could go on a strike followed by maybe don't go shopping during the weekends or something similar to at least show that they have had enough of Putin's military adventures, yet they do absolutely nothing, it's business as usual and all their neighbouring countries are proclaimed as being Nazis which is totally laughable. At one point they have to wake up!
@xYarbx
Жыл бұрын
The time of demonstrations being able to change things has long gone away. They need to organize them selves into militias and have an armed revolution. After which preferable Russia gets broken into republics so that they never poses the man power to just throw enough meat at the grinder to make the enemy run out of bullets.
@Katoshi_Takagumi
Жыл бұрын
Two reasons, life in Russia is getting harder for people, and they also try very hard not to notice anything going on around them.
@jagan2
Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you! They should not go to military parades, stop watching propaganda on tv, do not participate to gatherings with supporters of the war, do not enter shops that collect food supplies for the military or posters for recruitments, and so on. The reality is that such things do not happen. There are many russian bloggers on youtube that proudly show the new russian shops and bars that substituted the american ones that left the country. And they speak proudly about them. Instead of boycotting their government by avoiding participation in unnecessary things, they stupidly support it.
@MTMF.london
Жыл бұрын
@@msdgroup9164 You're not making any sense dude.
@romanz9342
Жыл бұрын
@@xYarbx You'll see an immigrant from middle east dating your mother before all that happens.
Im German and I speak russian, I keep hearing them support the war amongst themselves, they feel so comfortable thinking no one speaks their language.
It is a very small raise though, from 99% to 100%
@kingkreole9121
Жыл бұрын
Yep. Basically all Finnish people hate Russians, they're not wanted in Finland. And that is a fact. But because of the Finnish laws against discrimination, people talk about it among themselves, not so much in public. Now it is more acceptable to talk openly what people think of Russians.
@signorasforza354
Жыл бұрын
@@kingkreole9121 And that’s great
My stepfather fought in both the Winter War and WWII against the Soviet Union. Being a Swedish speaking Finn, he then moved to Sweden to become an engineer. He always expressed a distrust of Russia and said that he admired America for helping Europe militarily and, afterwards, economically.
@q___m2158
Жыл бұрын
Something to be proud of, for sure. He fought alongside Germany in WWII, probably took part in the siege of Leningrad. Look up Tania Savicheva's diary, you'll be even prouder
@oakleyreal
Жыл бұрын
@@q___m2158 Please understand that the only reason Finland joined Germany was due to the unprovoked Winter War, where the USSR attacked and stole 9% of Finnish territory. Who wouldn't want to retake lands stolen from them when they have the chance?
@TheGamer2001
Жыл бұрын
@@q___m2158 Do you know that a disproportionately high number of ruzzianz callaborated with the German nazis? 😃Very evident by what they are doing today!
@anthonyfuqua6988
Жыл бұрын
America also offered funds from the Marshall Plan to Russian and all the eventual Warsaw Pact members. Czechoslovakia and Hungary wanted to accept the money but Stalin wouldn't allow it.
@anthonyfuqua6988
Жыл бұрын
Also you can't blame Finlands decision to join Germany. They were attacked by Russia who had also invaded and taken half of Poland. Let's not forget Russia was a major cause of WWII by the Ribbentropp-Molotov Pact and the Invasion of Eastern Poland. The Finns never fought in major formations with the Germans and mainly concentrated on recovering their own territory.
What was the main excuse to illegally annex the Crimea by Russia ? To protect Russians who at one time decided to move to Ukraine. I'd be very careful with how many russians are living in my country nowadays because history tends to repeat itself.
@t34r
Жыл бұрын
History doesn't repeat but it sure does rhyme.
@Katoshi_Takagumi
Жыл бұрын
There's a little more than that involved when it came to Crimea.
@oneGodtobe
Жыл бұрын
@@Katoshi_Takagumi yeah but the less delusional reasons to annex a foreign land for Russia the safer. I hope there is more brave and honoruable Russians to join Freedom of Russia legion to get their country back from the dictator and his cronnies.
@tuijasaari1463
Жыл бұрын
Those Russians are there because first Stalin’s regime starved millions of Ukrainians and to compensate the lack of inhabitants in those parts, they moved Russians there.
@jelena7440
Жыл бұрын
When West illegally took over Kosovo and Metohija by force from Serbia to give it to Albanians they made a precedent for the other countries to do the same thing.
Love for Finland!
@QbertZ-zi2sy
Жыл бұрын
Do you really love Finland or are you just saying you love whichever country you see in the news?🫵🤣🤣🤣
@romanz9342
Жыл бұрын
@@QbertZ-zi2sy farts and prayers
@mikkojm
Жыл бұрын
Finland loves you back!
If Russia destroys one of its neighbours and you happen to be another of Russia's neighbour ....
I love Finland even more than before after this ❤
Welcome to NATO Finland! 🇺🇸❤️🇫🇮
Greetings to Finland from Poland Its good to see others with the same mindset when it comes to Russia
@jukkaramo3351
Жыл бұрын
Hello from Finland
@romanz9342
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, your “mindset” is roughly the same 😂
@JorgeCampos-eu7id
Жыл бұрын
hatred is not wise!
@TheKaczmarr
Жыл бұрын
@@JorgeCampos-eu7id being realistic and prepared for an enemy is wisdom my friend We didn't ask to hate them, but they give us all the reasons to do so
@Rigel_6
Жыл бұрын
@@romanz9342 Ever considered that the world wouldn't hate and mistrust you if you didn't constantly threaten and invade everyone around you?
Anti Russia sentiment... Not only in Finland...
@ivan_gdan
Жыл бұрын
but why?
@tombranch2261
Жыл бұрын
@@ivan_gdan Might be the fact the Russians literally invaded them in the past, and the fact Kremlin state TV has regularly threatened them with death.
@MTMF.london
Жыл бұрын
@@ivan_gdan Because they are warmongering thugs.
@sielukettu
Жыл бұрын
@@ivan_gdan seriously? Ask any Ukrainian.
@user-mj7dt8of8e
Жыл бұрын
The true face of European chauvinists
"You can't trust them" are words that ring very true these days where the Russia is concerned.
@romanz9342
Жыл бұрын
But you sure can trust uncle sam and their promises not to expand nato to the east
@christophercharles3169
Жыл бұрын
@@romanz9342 I don't believe the promise was exactly as you've stated. I believe it was more along the lines of "we won't actively pursue new members". Anyone wishing to join simply has to make the request and it will be considered. Russia's actions prompted Sweden and Finland to do just that. I honestly can't fathom why you would conflate the two "trust" scenarios. Its not even close.
Old Finnish saying: "the enemy always comes from the east"
@SurvivorIce
Жыл бұрын
But majority of their recorded history, they were conquered, occupied and ruled by Sweden for 7 centuries.
@jopeteus
Жыл бұрын
@@SurvivorIce That is correct too. But being under Russian rule is in more recent history
@mv_5878
Жыл бұрын
@@SurvivorIce During the Swedish time Finns weren't slaves or serfs. They had same rights as Swedes and didn't even regard themselves as a nation. The Russian empire period was mostly extensive autonomy with exceptionally good circumstances, considering the times. The Finnish animosity towards Russia stems 100% from the WW2, Stalin and Soviet Union.
@Pikkabuu
Жыл бұрын
@@mv_5878 No. The Russian period in Finland ended with the Russification where the Russians tried to turn Finns into Russians. That is another source of animosity and also one of the main reasons why Finland wanted to become independent.
@signorasforza354
Жыл бұрын
@@SurvivorIce Are you comparing Swedes with ruzzkie orks?
Absolute common sense by Finland ! Welcome ❤
Finland has never trust Russia or Soviet union. We have no reasons to do so.
If Russia tells you the sky is blue...you better believe it is red.
I am Russian, who used to livee 150km from the border in Saint-Petersburg, it feels painful to watch people of the Lappeenranta that were so welcoming being on high alert, and I can't blame them. It is indeed a shared responsibility and Putin is dangerous, better safe than sorry.
@viljanov
Жыл бұрын
Yes, it's a deplorable situation. Putin has taken the Russian people as his hostages. Some are suffering from Stockholm syndrome, while others just suffer.
@signorasforza354
Жыл бұрын
@@viljanov Lmao, serial killers are “suffering”.
@user-jo2nw4gz2o
Жыл бұрын
It’s not ‚shared responsibility’ when they talk sh*t about their own citizens, members of this accosiation. This so-called shared responsibility is nothing less than a moral simplification. It’s emotional reaction to fear and has nothing to do with law or common sense. But nothing new here.
@chourtout
Жыл бұрын
"shared responsibility" lol
@georgiymatveev8627
Жыл бұрын
@@signorasforza354 150 mln of serial killers, hehe, at least we are suffering.
It is funny hearing Russians talk about Russophobia. Phobia means an irrational fear or hatred. Sometimes it is just prudent.
@davorcro4115
Жыл бұрын
Mi sa Balkana volimo Ruse i Rusiju
@user-mj7dt8of8e
Жыл бұрын
Russophobia is an already established term denoting hatred of Russians, that is, it is xenophobia.
@rendsmachaine1872
Жыл бұрын
No it's called racism
@signorasforza354
Жыл бұрын
@@rendsmachaine1872 😂😂😂
@AlexanderSergeevRus
Жыл бұрын
According to Your words, homophobia doesn't exist?
1:38 The man in red is absolutely correct! "The country is the people."
The Russians did not gain so much land from their neigbhors to form the largest country in the world through peaceful negotiation. Annexing neighbors by force is their habit, even into the 21st century.
Even Russia's best friends don't trust Russia
Only Ruzzia's neighbors know the True face of Ruzzia 😢 ✌️🇺🇦🇪🇺🇺🇲🇬🇧🙏
@Katoshi_Takagumi
Жыл бұрын
What we are seeing is the True Face of Bolshevism.
@annabelle164
Жыл бұрын
🤮
Finland is so self reliant and independent thinking, a macro representation of its individual citizens and the way they think. Finland has looonnnggg resisted joining NATO despite the advances and overtures by numerous NATO members including the USA. If Finland feels the need to join NATO now, other countries need to pay attention to Russia.
@user-mj7dt8of8e
Жыл бұрын
Finns are a nation of chauvinists
@intermariumfi7460
Жыл бұрын
@@user-mj7dt8of8e get lost Russian
@TN-bp2cf
Жыл бұрын
You nailed it. This is exactly how finns think.
When could you have trusted Russia? Baffles me people ever trusted this nation. It's historically traumatized its own people and that of other nations. Other countries do the same, but not on the lasting scale Russia seems to do.
@owenthomas5103
Жыл бұрын
I think people used to trust it not to act clearly against its own self interest, but even that trust gas been shattered.
@lawtraf8008
Жыл бұрын
You want to talk about countries historically traumatising other nations ? Other countries do the same but not on the same scale of Russia ? You forgot Western European countries colonising, genociding and oppressing the whole entire world ? The US invading and destroying nations left and right ? I can assure you that The US, The Uk, France, Spain, Portugal, Belgium, Germany and else have done 100 times worse than anything Russia has ever done and is doing to Ukraine.
@AbbeyRoadkill1
Жыл бұрын
@@lawtraf8008 Every single one of those countries is glad they were colonized by the West and not by Russia.
@Frog89mad
Жыл бұрын
@@lawtraf8008 Actually Russia has always belong to that same "evil group" you talk about. They have for their whole history been oppressing their smaller neighbors by force
@t34r
Жыл бұрын
@@lawtraf8008 You realise that russia was also a colonial empire? And that the sovietunion was basically also a colonial empire? And that they also commited genocide? They even did it to their own population what is basically even worse for a country to do. They just mastered the art of pretending they aren't because they hid everything under the red carpet.
We danes love Finland 😀🇩🇰 Kind, polite, funny and smart people. If you have any beef with them, it means you must’ve done something very wrong 😉
@user-saramguy
8 ай бұрын
@@estoy_aprendiendo_espanyol🤡
Well if I was a Finn, I wouldn’t trust Russia either. Invaded once. Invasion can easily return. As for Russians, in general, they’ve supported Putin for decades. Continue to support him. They act as if they got no power to change. But do Russians, as a majority, really want to change?! Being suspicious of potential 5th column is a real thing when your neighbor has shown the willingness to wage war.
@Kamellion
Жыл бұрын
Once? If only. We Finns have been invaded dozens of times by those cunts. We have known for many centuries, that "the enemy will always come from the East". And then the Finnish joke usually goes: "Unless it somehow makes a cunning flanking manoeuvre and comes from the West."
As a Finn, I feel very disappointed and sad because of the horrible war started by Russia. When the Soviet Union collapsed in the 90s, I was hopeful about the future. Trade and other normal interactions with Russia increased. Some years ago, I started studying Russian and I'm still doing it. My intention was to travel to different parts of Russia. But now - a lot has to happen before that.
@user-zx6fg9lv4d
Жыл бұрын
Why then your country gave refuge to Chechen terrosists, acountable for multiple atrocities and terrostic attacks? Doesn't look like someone wanted to build trustworthy relationships in the first place.
@signorasforza354
Жыл бұрын
@@user-zx6fg9lv4d They are not welcoming ruzzkie terrorists) Chechens are heroes. They will be independent😊
I had guys from Finland on deployment.... One of them told me "You have to expect war when your neighbour is Russia" .... I thought to myself man this guy is exaggerating.... Don't think so no more ....
Great, greets from Poland.
Well being of a nation bordering Russia is directly tied to strength of it's artillery, and that is why Finland, with population smaller than London, has stronger artillery than British and French combined. Its not anti-Russian sentiment, its political realism.
Finland is not "anti-katsaps", they just humanity and smart! 🇺🇦♥️🇫🇮
Hyvä Suomi!🇫🇮👍
Lappeenranta is a city, not a town. A bit bigger than what Ukrainian city of Bakhmut was before the war. Very sad when you think of it.
@GugureSux
Жыл бұрын
By the official English definitions, Finland doesn't really have "cities" at all. Just some larger and smaller "towns", and a ton of "villages".
I really enjoyed my trip to Finland. What a huge blunder Putin made starting this war and alienating a great, peaceful neighbor. The Finns are right to be wary of Russia now and prepare for living next to a country that has always been ruled by despots whether czars, Stalin or Putin. This makes Russia somewhat unpredictable as a neighbor.
Native russian speaker from Ukraine here, soviet Ukraine to be exact. I grew up mostly in the US, had Latvian and Ukrainians diaspora friends who's parents held very unkind views of Russians. Honestly, I always viewed that as a bit of hysterics. Even up to the actual invasion in 02/22, I thought western hysterics were fueling this talk of invasion. And then...the invasion happened. And with this invasion, as my aunt's town took missile and drone strikes, as the Russians had their convey so close to Kyiv before they were repelled, I started watching man-on-the-street interviews in Russia on KZread channels like 1420. Now granted, obviously these are not interviews of ALL Russians, but still I was shocked by the broad slice of population presented, showing either utter apathy or flat out venom. This just turned my stomach is all I could say. I've now witnessed how bad they are as a society, and I cannot unsee it.
@alexandraschall7896
Жыл бұрын
The same.
@signorasforza354
Жыл бұрын
Never let ruzzkie lie to you.
@erikafinland2162
Жыл бұрын
Same here. 😔
Finland do the right
1:55 - If they attack. Well, the Danish and Norwegian governments have already said, that it will see an attack on Finland as an attack on our own land.
@starvictory7079
Жыл бұрын
Same in Sweden.
At the end of the day, its up to the people to hold their leaders responsible. The Russian people, by saying "I'm not political", just mean they're afraid to hold their government responsible for anything. And its tragic and terrifying
@user-xm9ed8ej6p
8 ай бұрын
What is responsibility in this case you mean?
It is True 'We can't trust them'
"Who can trust them?" Nobody !
Finns dont forget who bullied them, who helped!
Unforttunately I agree with the guy who says it is the people, I met a Russian lady at an airport in Australia as I was leaving and we had a conversation, she said she does not beleive that Russia attacked Ukraine and that NO Russia did not invade Poland along with Germany in 1939, when you get the people staring the truth in the face and utterly denying it you can't trust them!
@romanz9342
Жыл бұрын
But didn't poland attck the czech before that ?
@HenriHattar
Жыл бұрын
@@romanz9342 You are missing a pretty BIG point, the Germans were on the ram,page and the prospect of total war is Europe was the worry, hence the British "gaurantee" that if Germany invaded Poland they would declare war on Poland - and they DID! So the issue of if in 1939 Poland attacked Czech ( which as you say is correct , although it was a minor conflict) had nothing to do with containing the growing European conflagration, which DID turn into a world war, so your point is irrelvevant and the tagging of Russian with German as the calayst for WW2 is appropriate.
Big hugs from Poland! to all Suomi people!
🇺🇸❤️🇫🇮
For Finland, Ukraine, chechnya, Georgia, Kosovo, japan, korea, Philippines, sudan, cyprus, Afghanistan, Burma, and especially me and my family: most precious blood of Jesus Christ, save us and the whole world.
Just look at the comments here and on every video about Ukraine or Ruzzia. There’s good reason for anti Ruzzian sentiment in the developed, civilized world…
@samipan3410
Жыл бұрын
@Vel ez Al Asif its called the truth
@QbertZ-zi2sy
Жыл бұрын
@@samipan3410 yikes. Get an education before you embarrass yourself further
@qbert8695
Жыл бұрын
If that is what "Civilized world" looks like, I would rather call myself uncivilized.
That Russian claim of "security guarantee from EU" was exposed as a scam the time Finland noticed that Kremlin attacks Non-NATO nations one by one. We just loved the courage of PM Sanna Marin. Go Finland!
Finns are much, much wiser than French regarding RuSSia.
@alejandrosotomartin9720
Жыл бұрын
French are just feminine and coward.
We tried trusting the Russians. We really tried. Look what happened.
Latvia 🇱🇻 ❤Suomi 🇫🇮
@mv_5878
Жыл бұрын
Sveiks
Glory to Ukraine !!!
@tarasbulba7476
Жыл бұрын
Glory to the Heroes !
@stevanrozic4638
Жыл бұрын
F*kin Na*is
@scandinavianstacker8485
Жыл бұрын
@@stevanrozic4638 less internet and more outdoors for you
@stevanrozic4638
Жыл бұрын
@@scandinavianstacker8485 Yep
@jormaanimehomoilija
Жыл бұрын
@@stevanrozic4638 The R*sshітs you mean?
Arm up my Finland friends. Don’t trust them for a second. Finland are fantastic people. Hi from Australia. Sydney
@merjakotisaari9046
Жыл бұрын
I hope that Five Eyes will grow as good and wide as NATO, not only in terms of intelligence, but also militarily
The sentence "a ruski is a ruski, even if it's fried in butter" a familiar saying that almost every Finn has heard from their grandparents. Meaning that there is no way of changing the nature of Russians, it does not get better no matter what you do. And yes, there is nice individuals in Russia, but as a Nation, statement is accurate.
@naqoyqatsi123
Жыл бұрын
It's racism, just in case if you don't know
@Giganibba511
Жыл бұрын
@@naqoyqatsi123 russophobic
@msaar1303
Жыл бұрын
@@Giganibba511 no, just realism. Phopic is irrational, this is realism and learning from experience.
@msaar1303
Жыл бұрын
@@naqoyqatsi123 , no it is not. Like I just said, individuals may differ, but look at the last 100 years, how many independent country has suffered Russians powerpolitics? Nothing has changed, Russia comes up with excuses to conquer independent Countries like now in Ukraine, how is it different from what happened to Estonia or the Czech Republic? Or to Finland? It is realism and if you don't know last 100 years history, back to school.
@gfys756
Жыл бұрын
@@naqoyqatsi123lol racism doesn't apply against white people.
🇫🇮 Finland without NATO = 1. Finland has street party 2. Putin declares street party "terrorism" and "provocation" and RU invasion begins
@thetoughcookie3665
Жыл бұрын
Exactly Russia in 2022 🤣
@lavozdelsur168
Жыл бұрын
@@thetoughcookie3665 I wish!
The anti-Russian sentiment in Finland is apparently rearing its head after having been on the decline during the last few decades. But there's a reason for it: Russia has attacked the lands that are now Finland so many times over the centuries. The centralized power in Moscow has also attacked numerous peoples - in fact, probably all of them - around and within its borders for over half a millennium, ever since Ivan the Terrible rose to power. The list of these attacks is long, and the attacks are always brutal. They almost always follow the same strategy: Russia makes up an excuse to send in the troops (for example, to "protect" certain people or to fight against "terrorists") or creates a false flag attack, then Russia executes thousands of civilians, deports the same amount, razes the cities to the ground, and finally erases the culture. This is what Russia has done almost too many times to count, and this is what they are now attempting to do in Ukraine. As a result, people around Russia have gotten used to not trusting Russians. Now because of the invasion of Ukraine, the emotional reactions to Russia's historical behaviour are returning to the surface. Russians have to stop the whining "why does the world hate us?" when they have done it to themselves. They could play nice, they could evolve to become a rule-abiding country which wants good. Nothing's stopping them. But instead they steadfastly and gleefully hold on to their imperial, colonial oppressor mentality. For generations Finnish people have taught their children to "never trust a Russian" and used an expression which roughly translates to "a Russian is a Russian no matter what you do to try to change them for the better", meaning Russians are deceptive, it's in their nature, and nothing will change that. Shame that they have to think that way, for sure, but it's an understandable attitude for those who are neighbours of Russia.
@0013dancer
Жыл бұрын
Happened before Ivan as well.
@signorasforza354
Жыл бұрын
Finns are BASED😊
I deeply feel with the Finns, and with polish people, and with baltic people. I have strongest sentiments anti-Putin and anti russian imperialism. Sentiments that overwhelm my soul. They are the most overwhelming negative feelings i have ever felt in my live. I guess i would have felt similarly against Hitler and nazi Germany if i was from that generation.
There is a saying in Finland: Ryssä on ryssä vaikka voissa paistaisi.
I like it when the old man said "the country is the people" but I guess the Russians don't know that...
Hey there. Finn here. We've had a pretty tense relationship with Russia at the best of times since the end of the Continuation War in 1944, and ther fact that we have had to balance our relationship with the Kremlin and the West for almost 80 years means that we have some incredibly unique insight into the mind of Russia. We Finns have always been wary of Russians and now that Russia has invaded another sovereign, neighbouring country, which we all recognise could have just as easily been Finland, we've had our worst fears confirmed.
"common sense grows in Finland"...good.
Putin and Lavrov to the Hague!
@Cornelis56
Жыл бұрын
No. Biden, Blinken and all the others of that US warmonger clique should be there.
Good for them! The Finn’s are great people.
The world is just a little safer with finland joining. Maybe we could stop the next war from ever happening.
@jettserUK17
Жыл бұрын
Indeed, with Sweden and wild card Ukraine hopefully being next.
@Galaxylord2
Жыл бұрын
@@jettserUK17 I one hundred percent agree nato can only get stronger.
@hfricke2661
Жыл бұрын
indeed eg MiddleEurope now can feel saver too, and not only the obvious Baltic states. It is a win win situation. Thank you for joining.
Right words, right words.
Growing?! How does it get above the already 100%?