A Chess Problem That's Hard To Believe

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Puzzle FEN:
k7/8/2K5/pp3q2/8/8/8/2Q5 w - - 0 1
Puzzle Details:
J. King, B. Horwitz, 1851
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Пікірлер: 204

  • @hggnigan
    @hggnigan Жыл бұрын

    A perfect moment to put Hikaru's "check, check, check, check, check, check" in

  • @Player-df7ny

    @Player-df7ny

    Жыл бұрын

    i promise i was thinking the exact same thing

  • @davidjames149

    @davidjames149

    Жыл бұрын

    that really blew my mind the first time I saw it

  • @justinwong3540

    @justinwong3540

    Жыл бұрын

    Hikaru: Oh! It's a staircase right? We go check check check check check check check Qe7 and that's how you win that's it yeah

  • @patosmanh

    @patosmanh

    Жыл бұрын

    Dude I saw that clip a few hours ago and that made me think of the staircase

  • @TheMapGod275

    @TheMapGod275

    Жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @tanquangvuong7983
    @tanquangvuong7983 Жыл бұрын

    3:35 its actually a draw Nelson after we trade the queens we can capture the pawn on b5 and attack the a pawn

  • @okamtzy

    @okamtzy

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah but its not a win anyway, so…

  • @BigDBrian

    @BigDBrian

    Жыл бұрын

    @@okamtzy it's still better to say things correctly. Nelson said it was a loss which was incorrect as it takes only a few seconds to find the draw, which feels sloppy. on the bright side, it does farm comments from people pointing it out over and over, though that's very annoying as a creator IMO

  • @stevenfisher7828

    @stevenfisher7828

    Жыл бұрын

    That's what I was thinking

  • @luqmaanhay4957

    @luqmaanhay4957

    Жыл бұрын

    No because you can play brook to j16

  • @nemuonakpoya8592

    @nemuonakpoya8592

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly

  • @MessLeadingProgramming
    @MessLeadingProgramming Жыл бұрын

    Saw the staircase, unfortunately, went all the way until the king and could not see how to finish it up!

  • @mtaur4113

    @mtaur4113

    Жыл бұрын

    Me too, lost sight of the problem we needed to solve.

  • @loqueestamal3465

    @loqueestamal3465

    Жыл бұрын

    "Knowing what to do is wisdom, but knowing when to stop doing it is freaking genius." (Shakespeare, or Plato, or Confucius, or someone else)

  • @gamgamesplayer4506

    @gamgamesplayer4506

    4 ай бұрын

    Almost same as i found the e7 but delayed by staircasing all the way to d6

  • @daboffey
    @daboffey Жыл бұрын

    One small point, at the end of the study, Black can avoid Qa7# by making luft... Qg8 or Qh8. This enables the alternate mate, Qb7#.

  • @FehAzeved0
    @FehAzeved0 Жыл бұрын

    First Study I immediately saw the correct queen move and all correct follow-ups. I am very proud of myself right now.

  • @Narufannykulapu-lapu

    @Narufannykulapu-lapu

    Жыл бұрын

    You aint the only one

  • @FehAzeved0

    @FehAzeved0

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Narufannykulapu-lapu Good job, dude

  • @abdush3268

    @abdush3268

    Жыл бұрын

    I found the maneuver myself when I looked at board at 6:18 and paused the video, put the position against highest level Stockfish and I failed to find the Qe7 move for white after 10mins of practicing.

  • @kaser_fx
    @kaser_fx Жыл бұрын

    3:25 actually, after the queen trade the king can go down and capture both of the pawns since the black king is too far.

  • @sulik682

    @sulik682

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes but that's still just white to TIE, not white to win.

  • @user-sk9oc3kr2q

    @user-sk9oc3kr2q

    2 ай бұрын

    Its a draw but we want win

  • @bhgtree
    @bhgtree Жыл бұрын

    This is so practical (and interesting), I found Qh1 when starting considering avoiding the WQ forking and trading. Thanks.

  • @kpscjto1237
    @kpscjto1237 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing puzzle Nelson. I loved it❤❤

  • @drziggyabdelmalak1439
    @drziggyabdelmalak1439 Жыл бұрын

    At 8:36, it may not be a win, for White, if Black forced the Queen trade, but you said White would lose. Surely a draw? Q xQ check; K x Q; the K can take both pawns.

  • @Herezjush

    @Herezjush

    Жыл бұрын

    Wanted to write same thing

  • @trottedazur5183
    @trottedazur5183 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing study !!

  • @Thuxo
    @Thuxo Жыл бұрын

    Bruh that was crazy. I saw the staircase in advance after we got partway through the study, but the coolest part imo is when and how it stops. Really impressive stuff

  • @yangli6428
    @yangli6428 Жыл бұрын

    At 3:28, after the queen trade, Kxb5 deaws the game if white plays correctly and white doesn't lose.

  • @arminulrich2319
    @arminulrich2319 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot - great puzzle

  • @realteamwall
    @realteamwall Жыл бұрын

    i love your puzzle videos

  • @marcojacobs5443
    @marcojacobs5443 Жыл бұрын

    Love the story with the 3 Fishermen Am curious how you made up the story :) Really a good story 👍

  • @cwalenta656
    @cwalenta65611 ай бұрын

    Queen showing some elegance in that one.

  • @Polish_internet_troll
    @Polish_internet_troll Жыл бұрын

    I'm glad that I've noticed everything, I'm slowly improving

  • @hero-gaming_yt8377
    @hero-gaming_yt8377 Жыл бұрын

    I solved this INSTSNTLY when I looked at it because I am very familiar with this pattern and the qe7 maneuver.

  • @MaxIronsThird
    @MaxIronsThird11 ай бұрын

    found this one straight away happy noises

  • @kingxgameryt4596
    @kingxgameryt4596 Жыл бұрын

    Nice puzzle keep it up ❤❤

  • @ElPanaCanta
    @ElPanaCanta Жыл бұрын

    I actually was able to find all the moves, including the staircase in the end and was really excited about it

  • @1a1u0g9t4s2u
    @1a1u0g9t4s2u Жыл бұрын

    These are great chess puzzles. Just wish I had memories like GM chess players. Thanks for sharing.

  • @xnick_uy
    @xnick_uy Жыл бұрын

    Nice one! I got them all correct, even the ladder part, but I failed to find the last blow.

  • @gamgamesplayer4506

    @gamgamesplayer4506

    4 ай бұрын

    Almost same as i found the e7 but delayed by staircasing all the way to d6

  • @ivorsimic
    @ivorsimic Жыл бұрын

    probably the first time i managed to predict every single move

  • @bhgtree
    @bhgtree Жыл бұрын

    The Queen in chess is never happy with a draw.

  • @lucid8015
    @lucid8015 Жыл бұрын

    Nitpick - at 3:33 after the queen trade white will not lose; it will be a draw since King can take two black pawns.

  • @Grasstheblock
    @Grasstheblock Жыл бұрын

    this looks like the hikaru game where he ran the king into the corner

  • @TheEthikos
    @TheEthikos Жыл бұрын

    Wow, that’s some incredible queen precision!

  • @prasenjitsengupta6123
    @prasenjitsengupta6123 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing!

  • @sulik682
    @sulik682 Жыл бұрын

    Great niche you have, doing these wierd puzzles. Like the content.

  • @paulfaulkner6299
    @paulfaulkner6299 Жыл бұрын

    I find Nelson's analyses fascinating

  • @anastasiose4489
    @anastasiose4489 Жыл бұрын

    One of the best chess quiz ever

  • @DaDitka
    @DaDitka Жыл бұрын

    One of the things I am learning is that the checkmates in puzzles like this come from ways I never expect, which of course is why it is a puzzle. I was thinking, "Okay, you are going to have to position your queen in such a way so as to skewer the black queen and get it off the board." Stupid me. The way to win puzzles like this is to take advantage of the positioning of the opponent's pieces, not necessarily look for ways to trap their pieces. But I only have a score of 24, so that shouldn't surprise anyone. Lol. Thanks, Nelson. Great puzzle and great job as always. Your channel is so much fun.

  • @zsoltbihary3347

    @zsoltbihary3347

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree. Most good puzzles are solved by a "paradoxical move", that seems "beautifully weak" at first. But then you start realizing the concept, and that is the learning experience.

  • @geoffsaemann4241
    @geoffsaemann4241 Жыл бұрын

    “Classic right triangle” -Hikaru, probably

  • @kristofferkarlsson4260
    @kristofferkarlsson4260 Жыл бұрын

    00:09 Imagine playing black, white offers a draw and you arrogantly decline with two passed-connected pawns up, Then your opponent thinks for a while, moves Qh1, and smiles back at you. 🤩

  • @zelandakhniteblade5436

    @zelandakhniteblade5436

    Жыл бұрын

    You should never decline a draw offer until your opponent has made a move. The offer remains binding.

  • @jamesbell1613

    @jamesbell1613

    4 ай бұрын

    White can force a draw from this position, which is a fine result.

  • @Clodd30
    @Clodd3010 ай бұрын

    If trade is accepted then it’s a draw. Check, black king take’s queen and white king takes the pawn which also makes him get closer to the other pawn

  • @jamesbell1613

    @jamesbell1613

    4 ай бұрын

    If black plays for a draw in this position white cannot prevent it?

  • @MichaelHarrisIreland
    @MichaelHarrisIreland4 ай бұрын

    I was so happy to find the stairs I became a beggar on horseback and rode the thing until it collapsed.

  • @alex_zetsu
    @alex_zetsu Жыл бұрын

    You should have put the Queen on h1 and have black to move and ask people to find the best move. He's ahead by two pawns, has the move, and not in check. And yet despite this, he's still lost. I think you can even put an extra black pawn on the f file and have him three pawns ahead and still doomed.

  • @binnibach5957
    @binnibach5957 Жыл бұрын

    Staircase puzzle, Nice

  • @fantomghost6213
    @fantomghost62135 ай бұрын

    Another great puzzle

  • @rainerausdemspring3584
    @rainerausdemspring3584 Жыл бұрын

    The famous book by Kling and Horwitz is on-line. However, ist is written in the infamous descriptive notation.

  • @drjukebox
    @drjukebox Жыл бұрын

    Nice one

  • @teomartini1105
    @teomartini1105Ай бұрын

    3:33 I dont think you would lose as after the king takes the white king can take both pawns

  • @danielestrada3390
    @danielestrada3390 Жыл бұрын

    I havent played seriously for over 6 months, like, if i didnt start training again a week ago, id prolly miss that move, glad that my effort is paying off again

  • @rssl5500
    @rssl55006 ай бұрын

    The staircase is the hikaru moment

  • @gonzalotapia1250
    @gonzalotapia1250 Жыл бұрын

    As a 600 elo player, I can't believe I found the first move

  • @SevenSizzler
    @SevenSizzler Жыл бұрын

    Nice puzzle. I think i need a meme for that moment 8:09 :D "tututututu"

  • @VinodKumar-eh2dx
    @VinodKumar-eh2dx Жыл бұрын

    Awesome 👌

  • @shaileshraut7590
    @shaileshraut7590 Жыл бұрын

    Superb

  • @hinyuchin4724
    @hinyuchin4724 Жыл бұрын

    where is bobby fisherman?? I know people sometimes ran out of story idea but you already the officer going to average joe to give him a puzzle and at bobby fisherman side, there is the competition.

  • @barun9665
    @barun9665 Жыл бұрын

    Solved everything 😊

  • @misharatkevich9808
    @misharatkevich9808 Жыл бұрын

    And if black responds with 1... Qf7 (to prevent mate on b7), then 2. Kb6 Kb8 3. Qh8+ and black is a goner. Took a few seconds to see this... anyway, what a position.

  • @andreimcallister1365
    @andreimcallister1365 Жыл бұрын

    3:33 bro that’s clearly a draw. You can take both of those pawns

  • @BobChess
    @BobChess Жыл бұрын

    This is why king safety is the most important thing in Chess. In this puzzle, black is up 2 pawns but because of very poorly black's king position. Black loses!

  • @andrewwong6500

    @andrewwong6500

    Жыл бұрын

    Unless if black has 5 more queens guarding your king

  • @aronuchukwuezugo615

    @aronuchukwuezugo615

    Жыл бұрын

    Not king safety, king activity in the endgame

  • @Kat-dp4rh

    @Kat-dp4rh

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@aronuchukwuezugo615 King activity is important, but king safety is more important. Having an active king doesn't matter, if you get checkmated

  • @ThatCozyNoob
    @ThatCozyNoob Жыл бұрын

    im surprised i actually found the first move instantly

  • @irar4665
    @irar4665 Жыл бұрын

    Great one... And it made me feel good that I immediately saw that the answer had to be Qh1 to avoid the Black's checks , and then I saw the staircase idea seconds later. I did miss the idea that Black could move his king, but once he pointed it out, was able to see what to do in that instance.😎

  • @bene2451

    @bene2451

    Жыл бұрын

    does it make you feel good to blatantly brag in the KZread comment section

  • @Kat-dp4rh

    @Kat-dp4rh

    Жыл бұрын

    ​​@@bene2451 why do you care, if they are proud and want to share it, good for them. I could ask you a similar question, does going after people in the comment section make you feel good?

  • @mdtaj7563
    @mdtaj7563 Жыл бұрын

    I immediately beat this puzzle

  • @girasol1869
    @girasol1869 Жыл бұрын

    I'm glad that I found Qh1

  • @jmw644
    @jmw6444 күн бұрын

    Queen trade does not lose (3:35), White will win both pawns

  • @theredalarm1977
    @theredalarm1977 Жыл бұрын

    Hell yeah, I calculated everything, im so happy

  • @scolley0616
    @scolley0616 Жыл бұрын

    Could Peter Patzer or Average Joe solve this?? Love that series, Nelson.

  • @ianfiguera3172
    @ianfiguera3172 Жыл бұрын

    idk if i am missing something but in 8:27 can`t the black queen move to c7 and force a queen trade?

  • @GoldSite
    @GoldSite Жыл бұрын

    @Chess Vibes theres a Rare Alekhine's defence that only happens on 10 games which is called the "Monkele MBembe", can you make a video about that?

  • @flamingepicgame7097
    @flamingepicgame7097 Жыл бұрын

    Ina time he had quenn a8 for forced stale mate

  • @renerpho
    @renerpho Жыл бұрын

    Stockfish says it's mate in 12. Amazing. 1. Qh1 Qc8+ 2. Kb6+ Kb8 3. Qh2+ Ka8 4. Qg2+ Kb8 5. Qg3+ Ka8 6. Qf3+ Kb8 7. Qf4+ Ka8 8. Qe4+ Kb8 9. Qe7 Qa6+ 10. Kxa6 Kc8 11. Kb6 Kb8 12. Qb7# The funny thing is, if you put the b pawn on b5 (which looks like an even better position for black), it's now mate in 11: 1. Qh1 Qc8+ 2. Kb6+ Kb8 3. Qh2+ Ka8 4. Qg2+ Kb8 5. Qg3+ Ka8 6. Qf3+ Kb8 7. Qf4+ Ka8 8. Qe4+ Kb8 9. Qe7 Qe6+ 10. Qxe6 a5 11. Qe8# And if you move the paws further forward, it can even become a mate in 10. If you start with the pawns on a4 and b3, Stockfish gives this line: 1. Qh1 Qc8+ 2. Kb6+ Kb8 3. Qh2+ Ka8 4. Qg2+ Kb8 5. Qg3+ Ka8 6. Qf3+ Kb8 7. Qf4+ Ka8 8. Qxa4+ Qa6+ 9. Qxa6+ Kb8 10. Qb7#

  • @renerpho

    @renerpho

    Жыл бұрын

    Moving the pawns to a3 and b3 would be bad for black, as it allows this mate in 5 via a different idea. Same for a2 and b3. Most other arrangements of the pawns are mate in 10 for black(!)

  • @rainerausdemspring3584
    @rainerausdemspring3584 Жыл бұрын

    The first move is obvious - 0.5seconds. The staircase manoeuvre is very nice, though.

  • @Robi2009
    @Robi2009 Жыл бұрын

    4:42 agadamator's vibes :)

  • @kuei4604
    @kuei460411 ай бұрын

    Super Mario in the background XD.

  • @tigerelly6778
    @tigerelly6778 Жыл бұрын

    Holy crap THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IVE ACTUALLY SOLVED ONE OF THESE PUZZLES! I don’t care if my elo is low I’m proud of myself 😌

  • @hx823

    @hx823

    Жыл бұрын

    Me too, I found Q-KR1

  • @jasongoodacre
    @jasongoodacre Жыл бұрын

    Queen to h8 doesn't lose it ends in a draw. Both pawns can be taken.

  • @user-de1vt1xb4q
    @user-de1vt1xb4q2 ай бұрын

    I have always thought of the chess queen as a vampire, because of the kiss of death checkmate, in which she moves directly adjacent to the king, and then she gives him a venomous kiss on the lips, and then she bites his neck and drinks his blood. If the queen is aggressively pursuing the king, then she is a thirsty vampire queen.

  • @peterschreiber8336
    @peterschreiber8336 Жыл бұрын

    not J. King, B. Horwitz, 1851 but J. KLING, B. Horwitz, 1851

  • @cerberusarvizu3924
    @cerberusarvizu3924 Жыл бұрын

    Very nice.

  • @comradebagelmuffin7382
    @comradebagelmuffin7382 Жыл бұрын

    as a 700 it was nice to have a puzzle that I was able to keep up with.

  • @mbeaulieu22
    @mbeaulieu22 Жыл бұрын

    I knew the move!

  • @thatstardewguy3833
    @thatstardewguy3833 Жыл бұрын

    at 3:01 cant black move queen to c8 to stop checkmate?

  • @0638
    @0638 Жыл бұрын

    my first instinct of Qh1 was somehow correct lolol

  • @jordansinghROCKXXX
    @jordansinghROCKXXX Жыл бұрын

    What If white QH1 then black to QF7

  • @renerpho
    @renerpho Жыл бұрын

    Here's a fun variant. It looks even scarier, but it's white to play and mate in 5: k7/8/2K5/1p3q2/2p5/1p6/p7/2Q5 w - - 0 1

  • @Kat-dp4rh

    @Kat-dp4rh

    Жыл бұрын

    But it's totally different then, as Qh1 doesn't win anymore, and you only win thanks to Qa3+

  • @jaythanesperon1232
    @jaythanesperon1232 Жыл бұрын

    i would have just played queen a8 forced stalemate

  • @fellowshipofthetables6198
    @fellowshipofthetables6198 Жыл бұрын

    Fun problem!

  • @ankurganju6906
    @ankurganju690610 ай бұрын

    What about queen to f7 for black?

  • @IamnotfromUSA
    @IamnotfromUSA11 ай бұрын

    qh1 I think is first move

  • @Jan_Heckmann
    @Jan_Heckmann Жыл бұрын

    I can proudly say, that I figured this one out!

  • @HangPham-he4jk
    @HangPham-he4jk Жыл бұрын

    How about queen c8

  • @zerotms5145
    @zerotms5145 Жыл бұрын

    Damn, I feel like I should've been able to see that, but NOPE. Excellent video...

  • @CT-zd8jn
    @CT-zd8jn Жыл бұрын

    Why doesn’t QH8 work? I’m sure it does. Black queen blocks white queen takes black king takes white king takes b 5 and then on to take -a5 (a4)

  • @MinhLe-cf5nt

    @MinhLe-cf5nt

    Жыл бұрын

    Because you change a forced mate into a draw?

  • @arnavnandan
    @arnavnandan Жыл бұрын

    Im sorry but can someone explain why the staircase is not considered draw by repetition?

  • @ryanstejskal1506

    @ryanstejskal1506

    Жыл бұрын

    Draw by repetition involves repeating the same _position_ three times (specifically: all the pieces are in the same place, the same player has the move, and any castling/en passant move rights are the same). Although the white queen's moves during the staircase maneuver are similar moves, no position is being repeated because the white queen lands on a new square each move.

  • @shyamsundardharmadhikari4010
    @shyamsundardharmadhikari4010 Жыл бұрын

    At 3:35 it's a draw. If you have common sense to grab the b5 pawn after queen trade and then to take a file pawn also. NOT EXPECTED FROM NELSON TO SAY LOSS.

  • @plaguemandudeguypersonthin8878
    @plaguemandudeguypersonthin8878 Жыл бұрын

    First one of these which i got all of them right.

  • @teh_kaczuch
    @teh_kaczuch Жыл бұрын

    Got it! My 2000elo is working

  • @oskar8421
    @oskar8421 Жыл бұрын

    Why not start with queen h6?

  • @arcanum814
    @arcanum814 Жыл бұрын

    3:36 I am pretty sure you can draw but you said you will loose. Just take their queen, king takes, you take pawn, and then the next pawn. ??

  • @TeakBumblebee27
    @TeakBumblebee27 Жыл бұрын

    Im 200 elo (i just reached yesterday), and i found out 3 moves that he said, im just better, im just that guy

  • @mujtaba21_05
    @mujtaba21_05 Жыл бұрын

    6:19 why don’t you force a stalemate by Qa8+ ? More funny 😆

  • @Kat-dp4rh

    @Kat-dp4rh

    Жыл бұрын

    It wouldn't be stalemate, king can take the pawns

  • @victorpolyakov3031
    @victorpolyakov30316 ай бұрын

    Why we cant go to h6??

  • @radmehrhakhamanesh6816
    @radmehrhakhamanesh6816 Жыл бұрын

    Is it Qh1?

  • @amanmalekikhajkolaee7523
    @amanmalekikhajkolaee7523 Жыл бұрын

    I love it and I actually say right answer❤🎉

  • @andyclark8991
    @andyclark8991 Жыл бұрын

    Chess Vibes what an awesome awesome video. No didn’t spot the win by white. Pausing it.

  • @arseniylanin
    @arseniylanin Жыл бұрын

    I completed this puzzle for 95%, I just haven't seen the last move Qe7, it was amasing, thank you!