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Puzzle FEN:
8/5R2/1r6/8/3R4/q5kp/7p/7K w - - 0 1
Puzzle Details:
Y. Hoch, 1980
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  • @ashvinla
    @ashvinla8 ай бұрын

    Couple of questions: 1. In an actual game, how do I realise that I need to seek a draw instead of trying to win? 2. How do I see the difference between RC1 and RE2? Does that come with practice?

  • @strange9863

    @strange9863

    5 ай бұрын

    if u lose your piece for nothing you might seek a draw

  • @prathyush4583
    @prathyush4583 Жыл бұрын

    nise puzzle! i thought i found some loopholes, but when i went back and checked, they were all covered.

  • @philippevanelderen6052

    @philippevanelderen6052

    Жыл бұрын

    I was about to ask the same question but then realized that when the king moves it's no longer defending the h pawn hence rook b1 is no checkmate

  • @yyyy-uv3po
    @yyyy-uv3po Жыл бұрын

    A really peculiar puzzle! I would have needed several magic blueberries to solve it.

  • @soogers

    @soogers

    Жыл бұрын

    Assuming your elo is 100 and assuming u meant like 5 blueberries, you would have 2500 elo. If the multiplications didn't stack together, you would be 312,500 elo. (The magic blueberries multiply ELO by 5)

  • @shreyjain3197

    @shreyjain3197

    Жыл бұрын

    magic blueberries dont exist grow up

  • @rockmcdwayne1710

    @rockmcdwayne1710

    Жыл бұрын

    @@shreyjain3197 Who knows these days. Some individuals are suspected of putting things in their anus... whos to say you cant swallow couple of ''berries'' that start beeping morse code in your gut?! Call it... magic.

  • @hassanalihusseini1717

    @hassanalihusseini1717

    Жыл бұрын

    @@shreyjain3197 They do....and better than Hans Niemnanns method. 🙂

  • @soogers

    @soogers

    Жыл бұрын

    @@shreyjain3197 Know what you're talking about bruh There's a series on this channel involving magic blueberries, that's what we were talking about

  • @Qoko88
    @Qoko88 Жыл бұрын

    Crazy qeens and rooks is probably the weirdest tactical concept chess has: one of the reasons I'd absolutely hate for the stalemating rule to change (which has been called out for a couple of times). In this case, it shows that planning a deperado spree is necessary at times which is, looking at other games of similar origin just a mind blowing concept. As for the puzzle itself, I got the Kf3 line quite quickly, but seeing the subtleties in the Kf2 line went over my head.

  • @simonghostriley25

    @simonghostriley25

    11 ай бұрын

    Ah yes, the qeen is my favorite piece

  • @prithvirajs

    @prithvirajs

    11 ай бұрын

    It’s annoying but the rule makes sense

  • @dragansimeunovic3255

    @dragansimeunovic3255

    11 ай бұрын

    Great analysis

  • @aidangraham9270
    @aidangraham9270 Жыл бұрын

    At 2:53 there is a quicker way to draw the game with RG3+ KxF4 and RxA3 but as you said black with best play will play the other move

  • @ParthkrGarg

    @ParthkrGarg

    Жыл бұрын

    yes i thought the same you win the queen but you also loose a rook and black will secure 1 pawn so you wont be able to draw.

  • @dieschachbrettfee2060

    @dieschachbrettfee2060

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ParthkrGarg Actually the situation would be the same if Black plays Kf4 at 2:57. I think it's a draw because black won't make progress after securing the pawn.

  • @ParthkrGarg

    @ParthkrGarg

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah actually black will losse the pawn as well and then both will have one rook And i think it will be a draw not sure about rook endgames

  • @dimitriskontoleon6787

    @dimitriskontoleon6787

    Жыл бұрын

    ​​@@ParthkrGarg easy draw from sure not even need to watch endgame tablebase the black have to lose the h2 pawn next move, and the H pawn was full guard from king.

  • @alexanderklychkov6716
    @alexanderklychkov6716 Жыл бұрын

    Ok, I heard about this case. It's named "Frantic rook" 😅

  • @gamerplayer3
    @gamerplayer3 Жыл бұрын

    although its pretty hard to do so in a game this is a good example as to why doubling up pawns is bad (especially at the edge of the board)

  • @ianorr1388
    @ianorr1388 Жыл бұрын

    Quite Incredible.

  • @dermexikaner9279

    @dermexikaner9279

    Жыл бұрын

    Agree.

  • @aguirejamiryo-bf7jt

    @aguirejamiryo-bf7jt

    Жыл бұрын

    Indeed so

  • @stockpisces

    @stockpisces

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep

  • @stockpisces

    @stockpisces

    Жыл бұрын

    But easy to see sacrifice for draw

  • @BobChess
    @BobChess Жыл бұрын

    This is an incredible puzzle. Which rooks should be moved which checks you should delivery are the main ideas of this puzzle! If you move the wrong rook or wrong check, you lose.

  • @JustAnotherCommenter
    @JustAnotherCommenter Жыл бұрын

    Don't you love it when there's a crucial h2 pawn from your enemy that you want DEFENDED and every move you keep sacrificing your ROOOOOOOOK just to keep yourself (as the king) trapped?

  • @christopherheckman7957

    @christopherheckman7957

    Жыл бұрын

    I got to do something similar in a tournament game. I blundered early on, and my opponent swarmed in, surrounding my king and taking most of my pieces. The fun (for me, playing Black) begins with the position 8/7k/4R3/2N1B3/1P4R1/2PP3P/r1K2P1P/8 . White blundered with 43. Kd1?? Rd2+ 44. Ke1 Re2+ and I keep my rook on the second rank, checking. (I capture the pawn at f2.) When I got to 48. ... Rg2+ (White king on g1) 49. Kh1 Rg1+ (not Rxh2, because Bxh2 releases the stalemate) and no matter how White captures the rook, I'm stalemated.

  • @virgodem
    @virgodem Жыл бұрын

    The stalemate wasn’t exactly the only trick white could use to draw. It could also trade the rook for the queen if the black king was far enough. Then the white king could take the two pawns and it would again be a draw.

  • @virgodem

    @virgodem

    Жыл бұрын

    Also at 2:10, if you use the left rook first to fork the queen and king, with the intention of getting black to take with king and skewering to take the queen, black will simply take with the queen.

  • @aaronscott7467

    @aaronscott7467

    10 ай бұрын

    If the black king ever got too far at the end it's actually a win for white because you can checkmate with just a king and a rook

  • @Reversed-Reality
    @Reversed-Reality28 күн бұрын

    5:35 rook e5 also makes a stalemate right after queen takes

  • @user-fm3no5gm9t
    @user-fm3no5gm9t8 ай бұрын

    INCREDIBLE!

  • @sirranhaal3099
    @sirranhaal3099 Жыл бұрын

    Now that was a crazy puzzle

  • @mono1931
    @mono1931 Жыл бұрын

    anyone notice the exact same position is on the board in the background?

  • @shreeshaurya1270
    @shreeshaurya1270 Жыл бұрын

    this type of chess puzzles makes my mind bow🤯

  • @come.inside.me.join.now.
    @come.inside.me.join.now. Жыл бұрын

    Oh yeah a great puzzle from Chess Vibes 👍

  • @shady8045
    @shady8045 Жыл бұрын

    this one was really good, well done

  • @brianbeltran7337
    @brianbeltran73379 ай бұрын

    At 3:03 when you illustrate e3 you can come down and check with g3 and once the kings moves out of the way the queen falls.

  • @WithYourArms
    @WithYourArms Жыл бұрын

    Hi nelson love your vids!

  • @f3m7ar
    @f3m7ar10 ай бұрын

    Kf3 line, if black leaves the queen hanging for the second rook attack (fork): that option was not explored. Stockfish is disappointed. It has many potential if you are not thinking as a human.

  • @VoidDragonFunds
    @VoidDragonFunds Жыл бұрын

    Me getting deja vu:

  • @user-gm8qm8dv4u
    @user-gm8qm8dv4u8 ай бұрын

    5:59 but nelson you can go on c file for couple of moves and keep checking with your rook and keep sacing it so it cant go under the queen

  • @NoobNormalGuy
    @NoobNormalGuy Жыл бұрын

    So amazing!! 🤯

  • @magicmulder
    @magicmulder11 ай бұрын

    The funny thing I got the first couple moves right despite only being a lowly 2000 player (and waaaay lousier at fast time controls).

  • @GuyThatCREATESRandomStuff
    @GuyThatCREATESRandomStuff Жыл бұрын

    i paused at 0:09 and i think you give up the rooks so you can draw.

  • @awequayzngs1780
    @awequayzngs17807 ай бұрын

    The beauty of Chess !.

  • @MichaelHarrisIreland
    @MichaelHarrisIreland3 ай бұрын

    A bit like finding a needle in a hay stack for me.

  • @user-fm3no5gm9t
    @user-fm3no5gm9t8 ай бұрын

    4:13 What if Black continue moving the King? Then White play Rook to e1 or Rook to e2!!!

  • @ahmetemirylmaz9115
    @ahmetemirylmaz9115 Жыл бұрын

    I thought it was hopeless but Nelson, you tricked me!😂❤💭

  • @walterengler5709
    @walterengler570911 ай бұрын

    You never showed why the Queen pinned due to the king while on row 2 also leads to a draw. Say the king moves. Rook takes queen, king takes rook, king takes pawn, king moves, king takes other pawn .. two kings only stalemate.

  • @reubenmanzo2054
    @reubenmanzo2054 Жыл бұрын

    2:50 What about Rg3+, skewering the queen?

  • @bhavadharanim9884
    @bhavadharanim9884 Жыл бұрын

    Incredible puzzle 🧩

  • @mujtaba21_05
    @mujtaba21_05 Жыл бұрын

    4:00 Ra7 Qa7, Rb1 Kb1 stalemate😅

  • @RUSSIA-007

    @RUSSIA-007

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah it's too good if you want to get mated in one move 😂

  • @mythbusters866

    @mythbusters866

    Жыл бұрын

    That is not stelemate Kxh2

  • @prithvisinghpanwar6609
    @prithvisinghpanwar660911 ай бұрын

    alternate title: how can white farm brilliant moves?

  • @kiffygreene4598
    @kiffygreene4598 Жыл бұрын

    Could you still get a draw after check on E2 by taking the pawn with the rook and queen can’t take bcuz she and the last pawn would be captured

  • @fantomghost6213
    @fantomghost62133 ай бұрын

    Nice puzzle

  • @hyzercreek
    @hyzercreek11 ай бұрын

    Ay 2:00 Kxp is pretty good

  • @locrianphantom3547
    @locrianphantom3547 Жыл бұрын

    I looked at the thumbnail for 5 minutes. Just find a way to sac the rooks. Rf3 obviously because black is forced to take that, but idk how to sac the other one before checkmate.

  • @sergeyshimanovski6883
    @sergeyshimanovski6883 Жыл бұрын

    Great video. There is no way I would find it in a real game.

  • @vantrinhthe1948
    @vantrinhthe1948 Жыл бұрын

    0:21 F3 isn't actually a threat, since white can take back with the rook and check, buying white some time.

  • @stonvasila9631
    @stonvasila963111 ай бұрын

    It's not the only way to draw cuz u can also do this backwards with rd3 forking queen and king forcing capture then after qxd3 another forced move with rf3 and then takes with king to f3 and making it stalemate

  • @stonvasila9631

    @stonvasila9631

    11 ай бұрын

    If black doesn't take rd3 then u take blacks queen and ur already winning

  • @stonvasila9631

    @stonvasila9631

    11 ай бұрын

    It's wrong actually cuz there's the rook which can mate u and instead of the king black can capture f3 with queen so Im wrong I'm a shitty player and I should quit

  • @stonvasila9631

    @stonvasila9631

    11 ай бұрын

    Oh I'm actually right if you sacrifice the rooks in the third move u will only have the king making it stalemate cuz the king has no moves yeah I'm great cuz I saw this

  • @alimollahosseini7838
    @alimollahosseini7838 Жыл бұрын

    great and cool

  • @cxpKSip
    @cxpKSip10 ай бұрын

    I was thinking e1c1 c2c1 stalemate, but black can run.

  • @pptai
    @pptai10 ай бұрын

    Black can't checkmate in Qf3, because the rook captured the Queen. 0:18

  • @nwoDekaTsyawlA
    @nwoDekaTsyawlA Жыл бұрын

    I thought you would address the case when you fork the queen and king with the white rook, but instead of taking the rook, black lets you take the queen. They still have another rook and the white king is trapped. Perhaps it's trivial but I think we have homework.

  • @peterhawes9680

    @peterhawes9680

    11 ай бұрын

    I noticed that possibility but if you take the queen, the black rook gives check but Kxh2 is available and you draw easily

  • @OrganAndyG

    @OrganAndyG

    11 ай бұрын

    King and rook vs King and rook and (multiple) rook's pawn is a draw when the king blocks the promoting square.

  • @samirlofty8899
    @samirlofty88995 ай бұрын

    RF4. Re4

  • @kirilgeorgiev751
    @kirilgeorgiev75111 ай бұрын

    Why at 2:56 King F2 doesn't work?

  • @jebbush3130
    @jebbush313011 ай бұрын

    Rg7, Kf3, Rd3, Qxd3, Rg3 But I'm not sure about Kf2

  • @gamingwithhamim5188
    @gamingwithhamim518811 ай бұрын

    In 2:52 why can’t we just skewer the back king and take the queen?

  • @Trixbeat
    @Trixbeat Жыл бұрын

    What if black plays kc2 after rd7+? Edit: figured it out. Re2+. If black king stays on c file, check with rook on e file, if black king goes to b file, check with rook on d file. Black king can't reach a1 or a2.

  • @SenseiSathya
    @SenseiSathya Жыл бұрын

    If Rook on f7 was on e7 its too easy but this tricked me . Like always stay sharp, teach smart and take care !! (Ref:Nelson)

  • @m.z.671
    @m.z.671 Жыл бұрын

    All these stalemate shenanigans are soo boring! I really wish chess had the same "skip" rule as Go, so that any player can skip turns, and if both players skip, well, in chess that would be a draw and in go it's the end and start of points counting.

  • @IamExeller
    @IamExeller Жыл бұрын

    Even though I am a 1400 player but I still manages to do all of it right! IT'S NOT LUCK!! It's about deep calculating that I made.

  • @sillum
    @sillum Жыл бұрын

    On the queen skewer, cant you just sack the queen and checkmate with the rook if they take it?

  • @Darthrevan333

    @Darthrevan333

    Жыл бұрын

    There is no checkmate since white can take the pawn on h2

  • @flyurs1675
    @flyurs1675 Жыл бұрын

    Best chess channel

  • @tahmidahnafalvi4187
    @tahmidahnafalvi4187 Жыл бұрын

    Bro if black king steps out of the way and white rook takes the queen there is rook b1 and the game is simply over for white.

  • @aaronbreider4788
    @aaronbreider4788 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome

  • @zagrosqazy3798
    @zagrosqazy3798 Жыл бұрын

    How on earth did a position like this come to be 😂😂🤣 And if you had the chance to look at that 😂

  • @morange6837
    @morange683718 күн бұрын

    1:21 what if black plays Kf4

  • @morange6837

    @morange6837

    18 күн бұрын

    Nv mind white takes the queen as there is no mate threat

  • @nicholasgad2781
    @nicholasgad2781 Жыл бұрын

    Nelson, I love your puzzle videos, however the recent few have excessively artificial setups. Can you try to do more puzzles from real games? They are far more enjoyable.

  • @YashaswinPathangi-hi4kl
    @YashaswinPathangi-hi4kl9 ай бұрын

    Actually if it was black’s turn at the start of the puzzle black could win

  • @samirlofty8899
    @samirlofty88995 ай бұрын

    Rd3+ Rg3+

  • @kenzionn.c6366
    @kenzionn.c6366 Жыл бұрын

    No the white lose the black just move the rook to check and checkmate

  • @sahasmajety8857
    @sahasmajety8857 Жыл бұрын

    1:34 you dont take right cus of the rook checkmate threat you cant take the queen?

  • @sahasmajety8857

    @sahasmajety8857

    Жыл бұрын

    so blakc wins right?

  • @sahasmajety8857

    @sahasmajety8857

    Жыл бұрын

    you can always sac the queen cus of rook check mate just ignore the skewer for black

  • @sahasmajety8857

    @sahasmajety8857

    Жыл бұрын

    im 800 elo btw so im prob stupid

  • @truthterrain3484
    @truthterrain3484 Жыл бұрын

    At what level can players calculate all this in their mind before making the first move shown here?

  • @Ibrahim-ld9vz

    @Ibrahim-ld9vz

    Жыл бұрын

    Probably Cn or even im if they are in a tournament

  • @RitmosMC

    @RitmosMC

    Жыл бұрын

    Calculating it all at once is incredibly difficult, but intermediate players can probably follow steps towards the general direction of stalemate and come up with the correct moves as they go.

  • @Ibrahim-ld9vz

    @Ibrahim-ld9vz

    11 ай бұрын

    @@RitmosMC yeah but that guy asked at what level one should to be able to calculate it all at once

  • @letsplaycz1695
    @letsplaycz1695 Жыл бұрын

    Somehow i got it correct lol

  • @anshdhall8932
    @anshdhall893211 ай бұрын

    Rook to c2 I see but I thought rook Can work straight but when I saw rook to d2 I shocked and now I know chess is ultimate game many things matter 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮

  • @GreenMango27
    @GreenMango27 Жыл бұрын

    1:10 Couldn’t black just move the king down and sac the queen, once rook takes queen then rook b1 with rook is mate for black no?

  • @Darthrevan333

    @Darthrevan333

    Жыл бұрын

    White can take the pawn on h2 so it's not checkmate

  • @GreenMango27

    @GreenMango27

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Darthrevan333 ohhhh I see now ty

  • @divyanshagrawal982
    @divyanshagrawal982 Жыл бұрын

    Continue fisher ,story

  • @grossmutter3279
    @grossmutter327911 ай бұрын

    huh just blunder both of ur rooks?

  • @rekopolis3793
    @rekopolis379311 ай бұрын

    When are you gonna do a puzzle where black is winning. Every one of these was white winning. I wanna see the black pieces get some love. 😊

  • @mythbusters866
    @mythbusters866 Жыл бұрын

    2:50 what if Rg3+ Kxf4 Rxa3 is this white lose?

  • @mythbusters866

    @mythbusters866

    Жыл бұрын

    Nalimov say white can play draw

  • @TheYondaime
    @TheYondaime11 ай бұрын

    Rook d4>d3 Rook d7>d3

  • @samirlofty8899
    @samirlofty88995 ай бұрын

    Rg7+===

  • @vgamerul4617
    @vgamerul4617 Жыл бұрын

    very nice one

  • @athenaprastiti2191
    @athenaprastiti219111 ай бұрын

    69k views when I'm watching this

  • @kimbirch1202
    @kimbirch1202 Жыл бұрын

    Why couldn't black just sac the Queen, and mate with his rook ?

  • @Darthrevan333

    @Darthrevan333

    Жыл бұрын

    Because there is no mate. The king can take the pawn on h2

  • @kimbirch1202

    @kimbirch1202

    Жыл бұрын

    @DarthRevan Yes, you're right . I checked again, and realised this.

  • @asuu5379
    @asuu537911 ай бұрын

    this puzzle was actually very easy compared to the other puzzles you have made. (600 elo)

  • @bhawanakumawat6674
    @bhawanakumawat667411 ай бұрын

    Q ×R

  • @gmdFrame
    @gmdFrame Жыл бұрын

    Cool idea! UwU

  • @ContentX94
    @ContentX94 Жыл бұрын

    3rd like i love this channel

  • @mohammadmuhtadi6928
    @mohammadmuhtadi6928Ай бұрын

    White white again... Boring

  • @PramodKumar-qe2tz
    @PramodKumar-qe2tz Жыл бұрын

    Please explain everything. I am not watching your video after you explained first Black's mistake . Please don't be careless.

  • @MAML_

    @MAML_

    Жыл бұрын

    he did, though?

  • @rRemains

    @rRemains

    Жыл бұрын

    The video is, actually, 9 minutes long! Shocking right!?

  • @etrestre9403
    @etrestre9403 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Jenny!

  • @dannyxxstupid9977
    @dannyxxstupid9977 Жыл бұрын

    This was interesting