60 Amp Sub-panel Install with Inspection

What's going on guys. Today I've got a little sub-panel installation action with an on-camera city inspection. Tried to make this as beginner friendly as possible, so I apologize if it comes off as slow-paced or repetitive to those who already have a good idea of what's going on.
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  • @snowgo5922
    @snowgo59223 жыл бұрын

    Just awesome! You have a gift of explanation! This is the number one explanation video on KZread, no doubt! You are just amazing!

  • @jcleave22
    @jcleave222 жыл бұрын

    I want to compliment you on the quality of your completed project. I'm an instructor with a union electrical apprenticeship. There are a ton of videos out there with misinformation. You really put some time into understanding the current code. I don't know that I could find a single mistake in anything your showed or explained. Excellent explanation of the seperation of Equipment ground and neutral bars in the subpanel, and removal of main bonding jumper (green screw). Also- nice job with the afci breakers. The work is super neat, and everything is routed cleanly and supported properly. You should be proud of your finished product. I was a little suprised the Inspector didn't want to pull the covers!

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @Patrick-wc9xf
    @Patrick-wc9xf3 жыл бұрын

    I have zero electrical experience. In the middle of upgrading my woodshop in my garage and need have a sub panel installed. This video is great! hopefully after taking what I've learned here and doing more research I can complete this project. Thanks again for the great video.

  • @LaughingblueSu

    @LaughingblueSu

    3 жыл бұрын

    How is the sub panel going? I am still watching videos, don't have the courage just yet to tackle it.

  • @1r1shm0n1
    @1r1shm0n13 жыл бұрын

    Kudos to you for a great instructional video. I appreciate it and this definitely helped!!!

  • @cliffodell8593
    @cliffodell85932 жыл бұрын

    I have never had an inspection that didn't require the cover to be off. Great job in explanation and execution. Two thumbs up.:)

  • @alhawkins3376

    @alhawkins3376

    Жыл бұрын

    yes I saw that too.. I think he had a date waiting.

  • @KevinCoop1
    @KevinCoop12 жыл бұрын

    With the exception of mis-using the term phase and phases instead of L1 and L2, the rest of the video was very very good! You told what you did and why you did it. Respectfully, Kevin

  • @juscallmeric
    @juscallmeric3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly what I'm looking for. Great detail

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad I could help

  • @mikelonna1
    @mikelonna13 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Something to remember for safety reasons is to always probe the ground and then the voltage (hot) when checking for power. In the video you probe the voltage (hot) side first and this could cause you to become the ground.

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good call

  • @chucknades117

    @chucknades117

    2 жыл бұрын

    Great point and well written.

  • @seanj-ski1352
    @seanj-ski13524 жыл бұрын

    Geez this is very well done. You put many professionals to shame. Great job.

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, I've come to believe the licensure doesn't directly correlate to competence. I've hired some contractors that left me totally impressed. I've also hired some that made me wonder if my dog could have done a better job.

  • @garthp9874
    @garthp9874 Жыл бұрын

    This video is very well made. Having said that I would caution anyone watching the video about using a non contact voltage tester. Yes it may tell you there is voltage present but it does not tell you how much voltage is present. As an electrician I am required to use the live dead live system. First you take your meter to a known live circuit and verify that your meter is working and showing the correct voltage. Then you take your meter to a circuit that you have removed the power from and verify that there is no voltage before any work is done on it. Then you take your meter and test it again on a known live circuit. This may seem silly but this is the rule that I am required to follow as an electrician. It is a rule to live by.

  • @rrmajiros
    @rrmajiros3 жыл бұрын

    Once you pull a permit you can contact the inspector with any questions and find out exactly how they want to see the work completed. This can save a lot of time and money.

  • @Bianchi77
    @Bianchi7710 ай бұрын

    Nice video shot, well done, thank you for sharing it with us :)

  • @usmarinekenny
    @usmarinekenny3 жыл бұрын

    Just a correction to something you said. The two phases are 180 degrees out of phase since that is a single phase panel. Only 120 degrees out of phase on three phase systems. Residential is what is called split phase wiring. In other words they take a single phase from the 3 phase lines and splits it into two in the transformer; And the neutral is the center tapped point of the transformer. This is why in most residential roads and such the are only two lines on the power pole. A hot on the top and a grounded neutral on the bottom, where as when you have three phase power available you have three hot wires on the top and one grounded neutral on the bottom for all three phases. But just thought I’d throw that out there. It’s 180 degrees out of phase. In the single phase system in your house.

  • @user-dr2pg8fk2i
    @user-dr2pg8fk2i3 жыл бұрын

    How did you pull a sneaky on being strapped down/secured within 12inches of boxes? Best practice for relabeling neutral wires is marking them as red and having them phased same-same.

  • @joshuacassino7297
    @joshuacassino72973 жыл бұрын

    Hello. I currently have a 40amp sub panel and need to accommodate an extra 60amps in it. In the 40amp sub panel there is a 15 amp and a 30amp. What size breaker do I need in the main?

  • @joelpersinger7434
    @joelpersinger74343 жыл бұрын

    Awesome, detailed video. thank you!

  • @jeepxj
    @jeepxj3 жыл бұрын

    With your 30a outlet how did you get away with it not being stapled within 12"? General rule of thumb I thought was to always staple it on the same stud the box is mounted to.

  • @07Convertable
    @07Convertable3 жыл бұрын

    Most excellent job A-A-Ron!!! Sorry, I had to say it. Great video.

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. Glad I didn't "done messed up"

  • @mikespencer5293
    @mikespencer52932 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video thanks

  • @SquirrelsForAll
    @SquirrelsForAll4 жыл бұрын

    Good job!

  • @joek7999
    @joek79992 жыл бұрын

    Great Video.. Are you using a 100 main lug 8 circuit panel fed by that 60 amp breaker? Did that pass inspection? If so what was the approximate cost for the panel and breakers?

  • @heroknaderi
    @heroknaderi4 жыл бұрын

    Good job 👍

  • @raymondbucher8073
    @raymondbucher8073 Жыл бұрын

    What would you recommend for mt 14’ enclosed motorcycle trailer I want to add 110 outlets for inside and outside lights

  • @tvm2209
    @tvm22093 жыл бұрын

    Can I pretty much use this as a guide if I go with a 100 Amp sub-panel?

  • @edwinsGT8866
    @edwinsGT88663 жыл бұрын

    Great video. #6awg cu. good for 65amps in the 75 degree column

  • @surferdude642
    @surferdude642Ай бұрын

    I think you did a really good job and it your explanation is quite good also. Like you, I'm not an electrician either. Just a couple of nitpicks: The neutral cable doesn't balance the load, but rather it returns the unbalanced load, maybe that's what you meant. The other is regarding the 20 amp dedicated circuit and duplex 20 amp receptacle. Technically, it should be a single 20 amp receptacle if it's a dedicated circuit, but I'd probably just leave it as is, since you know what you're doing.

  • @dun-rightalarms1713
    @dun-rightalarms17133 жыл бұрын

    What Kind of wire did you use in the pvc pipe Thhn or Thwn.

  • @divhandyman
    @divhandyman4 жыл бұрын

    I am looking at your sub panel which is 125 amp panel, which would normally accept like a 2/0 wire, did you have to change the lugs in the panel to accept the smaller 6 gauge wire, or did the existing lugs tighten down OK on to the 6 gauge wire?

  • @gatsbylight4766

    @gatsbylight4766

    10 ай бұрын

    For anyone reading this: This panel is sold as a *convertible main lug only* panel (does not include a main breaker - since it's use will be as a subpanel). Therefore, it does not _"normally accept"_ 2/0 wire, but rather _it can accept_ *up to* 2/0. There is no "normally uses". Anyone buying this load center to use as a subpanel will have varying requirements - some might need it for a 60 amp subpanel, others a 100 amp subpanel, and others a 125 amp subpanel. The lugs on this panel accept *6 AWG to 2/0 AWG wire.* This panel appears to be a Square D Homeline HOM1224L125PC.

  • @jonathanbriones1151
    @jonathanbriones11513 жыл бұрын

    I was wondering if you could clarify something. The 60 amp limit will require you to isolate the breaker you will be using in order to keep the 60 amp breaker from tripping right? as using two breakers will surpass the limit and cause the breaker to trip?

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    Potentially, but not necessarily. The size of the downstream breaker isn't really important, it's the actual current that you'd need to watch out for.

  • @nimitkhaen
    @nimitkhaen2 жыл бұрын

    Hi sir please tell us in detail that # 6 wire how many wires in there and what colors and where you connecting them to where do you connect the green and where you connect the newtral can green and white go to the bar because both bar screw to the same box. Thank you.

  • @tr3470
    @tr34703 жыл бұрын

    Great video, but truly odd the inspector didn't have you pull the covers. In my experience with several inspectors I've dealt with over the years there are inspectors that truly know what they are inspecting and verify everything and then there are inspectors that have no idea what they are doing and don't even know how to interpret a code book. Overall great video 👍

  • @kommoncents5853
    @kommoncents58533 жыл бұрын

    Does a sub-panel need a dedicated outlet like you have, as well as the main panel ? Also I thought it needed to be GFCI, but since I saw the Arc breaker maybe that is OK. Can the dedicated outlet be a 15amp outlet, I noticed you have a 20amp for the sub-panel.

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    TBH, I'm not sure what you're asking in the first sentence. Otherwise, yes, a GFCI is required in the garage. I used a combo GFCI/AFCI breaker. Most new installations will run 20-amp branch circuits to outlets. But I'm not sure if that's code or just standard practice. Either way, I don't know why you'd run 15 unless you were really keen to save a couple dollars on wiring.

  • @futbol1972
    @futbol19723 жыл бұрын

    My brother in law run water lines and electricity to my garage where my parents live. The problem is that when my mom turns on microwave and minisplit ac it trips the breaker and also a combination of other appliences. The garage has a lot of outlets and I think they are on a 20amp breaker with a 14 gauge romex cable and brother in law also got electricity from the exiating 220 0r 240 outlet in garage to add more stuff. When breaker trips the whole power goes out in garage and also in kitchen of the main house. I think circuit is overloading.I was thinking of adding a 60amp circuit to main box and running a new line to garage and in garage add one of this boxes Eaton Corporation Br816L125Fdp 6 Circuit Main Lug Load Center, 125-Amp??? Also will I need to cancell all existing outlets and start from zero or is there a way to just add the new line to existing outlets in garage??? Thank u

  • @paulgrose7512
    @paulgrose75123 жыл бұрын

    NEC 300.15(C) permits using a listed conduit or tubing without a box where the conduit or tubing is used to protect a nonmetallic-sheathed cable against physical damage

  • @user-dr2pg8fk2i

    @user-dr2pg8fk2i

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, but pulling Romen (NM) through conduit is a fools-errand.

  • @davekimball3610
    @davekimball36103 жыл бұрын

    With a 60 amp breaker feeding the sub, do you fear that you could draw more current than that can handle with the circuits you put in the sub panel? Just wondering how you chose the breaker size you went with for the subpanel feed.

  • @Boristhaspydr

    @Boristhaspydr

    3 жыл бұрын

    If this were to be the case I believe the 60 amp circuit breaker on the main panel would (theoretically) trip?

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Steven K - Correct. Remember, breakers protect downstream wires. So the 60-amp breaker in the main box protects the 6-gauge wire in-between it and the sub-panel. The 30/40 amp breakers protect the 10/8 gauge wire between them and the outlets. If both of those (sub-panel) breakers were supporting loads near their max rating, theoretically the 60-amp main breaker would trip. In reality, not much would actually pull that many amps all at once.

  • @nemarec
    @nemarec4 жыл бұрын

    Im my state. Ispectors like panels boxes open so all wires are exposed. Good job.

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    4 жыл бұрын

    It was the first time I've had anything inspected..didn't know what to expect

  • @nemarec

    @nemarec

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@aaronstestlab i think you did well. I just remod my kitchen and i needed to upgrade from 100 amp service to 200. My first time doing it with a little help from a friend. The inspector said it was the best install he has seen in a while, better than most contractors. They required the new panel next to the old one with just 1 small receptical connected. 👍

  • @ClownWhisper

    @ClownWhisper

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@aaronstestlab I have a question I have recently lost my house due to a horrible woman that stole it from me even though I paid for the whole damn thing I'm very stressed out I'm disabled and I have to make sure that I have a subpanel in my attached garage. I only have a hundred amp circuit running to my house I cannot afford the $1,700 upgrade. I can run my welder on a 30 amp circuit that's all I need for my Mill as well. I will never run these at the same time obviously. A mill always has to be fully attended at all times so it's not like I'm going to be welding there will only be one outlet and it'll be shared for either welding or running my Mill. Would it be better for me to just run these circuits through the wall or should I put a subpanel in my garage period and if so can I run another hundred amp sub panel or should I drop it to 60 like you did?

  • @ClownWhisper

    @ClownWhisper

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@aaronstestlab also I forgot to ask does this need to be grounded separately if not it seems like it's merely like a utility strip otherwise. Wouldn't I need to run an additional rod or run at least a four wire circuit to the sub panel so I could take advantage of the ground on the other side of the wall?

  • @AGCampagna
    @AGCampagna4 жыл бұрын

    Great video, thank you. What type of breakers are used with the square d?

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    4 жыл бұрын

    Usually load centers and breakers are matched. So Squared D breakers go in Square D panels. Also need to watch out for product lines. For example, Homeline vs QO load centers(both Square D products)

  • @gatsbylight4766

    @gatsbylight4766

    10 ай бұрын

    Piggybacking on what @aaronstestlab said, it is best to use the breakers from the same manufacturer as the load center. That said, breakers are often interchangeable. The breakers compatible with Square D *"Homeline"* (not Square D *"QO"* ) are Cutler Hammer, Eaton, Siemens, GE Breaker, Westinghouse, and a couple of others I believe.

  • @truthsayers8725
    @truthsayers87252 жыл бұрын

    just picked up a Siemens branded breaker that has identical mounting system as the SquareD

  • @johndavies2949
    @johndavies29498 ай бұрын

    He's right about those afci breakers. In my area the local authority has waived that requiremdnt because of so much nuisance tripping.

  • @nickbailey202
    @nickbailey2023 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for explaining so clearly. I need to do exactly this for my new Tesla. I'm stuck on understanding theoretical load restrictions. If you're running the heater and charging the car, you'd be over the 60 amps that you ran to the subpanel, right? You're fine if your not using at the same time. So how many circuits can you put on the subpanel? Seems like you could have 20+, as long as they aren't all under load at the same time. But I'm sure that isn't permitted.

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m actually not sure if there’s a limit on the number of circuits you can have in a panel. But if you were to go down and add up the ratings of all the breakers in your existing panel, I’m sure it’s far more than 200.

  • @nickbailey202

    @nickbailey202

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@aaronstestlab Right. And that's ok? I can't find anything that addresses this.

  • @asg3hb
    @asg3hb3 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video!! Curious about the usage of 6awg wire with 60A breaker protecting it if the wire is rated for 55A. The breaker would allow upto 60A through it (for which, as you said, the wire is not rated).. Is there not a problem with that?

  • @hunter.on.channel.19

    @hunter.on.channel.19

    2 жыл бұрын

    If rated for 90°c it can pull 60

  • @KevinCoop1

    @KevinCoop1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@hunter.on.channel.19 Im sorry but you are not correct. The lugs in panels, and in breakers are rated at 75C. Therefore you can not use the 90C column ampacities to size conductors.

  • @KevinCoop1

    @KevinCoop1

    2 жыл бұрын

    NEC answer. The section he referenced about next size is Article 240.4(B) and he is correct. Since the breaker lugs and the panel lugs are 75C rated, the 75C column of 310.16(B)(15) can be used. #8 is rated 50a and #6 is rated 65a. So technically, you could use #8 on a 60 amp feeder because of the 240.4(B) article. But as a designer, the cost would be minimal difference and I would use #6 copper.

  • @martingonzalez529
    @martingonzalez5292 жыл бұрын

    well done

  • @bwest9840
    @bwest98403 жыл бұрын

    What kind of disconnect switch did you use for the outer building (shed)?

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just a regular 20A rocker switch

  • @bwest9840

    @bwest9840

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@aaronstestlab good to know, I was thinking you had to put a Square D disconnect safety switch panel out there as well, which was confusing me - I’ve just installed a 100amp sub panel for outside shed, landscape pillar lights, water feature with waterfall and some extra play room for future. I was just expecting to run a line out to shed - now I will ask, do you have your 20amp rocker switch set up to shut off power to all shed outlets, for safety? Curious if that’s a good idea or if it can just run like a typical house setup - hope that question made sense.

  • @DM-kb4ck
    @DM-kb4ck3 жыл бұрын

    Your are awesome man, Thanks

  • @waynef8686
    @waynef86863 жыл бұрын

    What type 60 AMP Breaker did you use in the Main Panel. Also I am doing the same but installing sub in a detached shed. Do you need to add a grounding rod connected to the sub-panel.

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    Square D Homeline 60A breaker as it's a SD panel. Usually detached buildings require separate grounding.

  • @benjaminhoyt1421

    @benjaminhoyt1421

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes.

  • @randybeard6040

    @randybeard6040

    3 жыл бұрын

    According to National Code, all Sub Panels are Required to have a Separate Ground Rod -wire running to Ground Bar in Load Center also Neutral and Ground must not be connected together...

  • @miket5506

    @miket5506

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@randybeard6040 only if the subpanel is in a separate building. in the same building it can utilize the ground conductor coming from the main panel...

  • @DJ-rd8vb
    @DJ-rd8vb2 жыл бұрын

    Best video 👍. I have 2 separate meters with 2 main panels for a 2 family house. Now I use it as one family and closed one meter/account. So I want to convert one of panels as Sub-panel. Do I need to get additional ground bar for this converted sub panel? It’s in same house and 2 panels next to each other and they are all connected to metal conduit, then to the ground. Thanks 🙏

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    2 жыл бұрын

    That question is above my pay grade, I'd try asking it on one of the electrician subreddits/forums instead.

  • @DJ-rd8vb

    @DJ-rd8vb

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@aaronstestlab thanks 🙏

  • @josemontiel8958
    @josemontiel89582 жыл бұрын

    What can I do if the sub panel doesn't have ground wire(2 hot/ neutral). Can I run separate ground from main to sub? Thanks

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    2 жыл бұрын

    A) Thats really weird and B) Im not an electrician but I would think you could run a ground from the main provided they’re in the same structure and theres enough room in the conduit

  • @bklyn2va2dc
    @bklyn2va2dc Жыл бұрын

    Great video, thanks for posting! I have a question: if your main panel is completely full with no room for the 60 amp breaker to feed the sub panel, what do you do? Can you not add a sub panel? I have no empty slots to add the 60 amp breaker to feed the sub panel. Thanks

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    Жыл бұрын

    Often times people will open up spots in their main panel by replacing a couple breakers with tandem ones.

  • @bklyn2va2dc

    @bklyn2va2dc

    Жыл бұрын

    @@aaronstestlab thank you!

  • @gatsbylight4766

    @gatsbylight4766

    10 ай бұрын

    There are a few variables to your question. *A)* Some panels have (or allow you to add) "feed-thru lugs". These lugs, usually at the opposite end of the bus bar from the main lugs in the panel, which allow you to connect wires which "feed thru" from the main panel to a subpanel. *B)* When the panel does not already come with feed-thru lugs, some models of load centers have (or allow you to add) "sub feed lugs". *C)* As @aaronstestlab said, you can otherwise move a couple of existing branch circuits onto "tandem" breakers *IF* your load center allows the use of tandem breakers. Not all load centers do, so *it is important to check the specs for your box.*

  • @concerned_2023
    @concerned_2023 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve understood the 60 amp breaker requires 4 gage wire when taking into account the wire must be rated for 80 percent of its capacity.

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    Жыл бұрын

    As far as I know the 80% rule only comes into play when sizing branch circuits supporting continuous loads...ev chargers/ACs/etc.

  • @chollyeva
    @chollyeva3 жыл бұрын

    did you scrape away paint before installing ground bar?

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    No, cutting threads of the mounting screws bond it to the box

  • @PinchTune
    @PinchTune3 жыл бұрын

    Question. I'm wiring a 60 amp out like this. But the feeder wires that I have going out are 6 AWG and 6 AWG for the two hots, 8 AWG for neutral and 10 AWG for ground. This was recommended to me by my electrician. Yes, I have the option of running all of them 6 AWG. Could you shine some light on this? Should I have them all be 6's or my combination is good?

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    10AWG for the ground sounds right. Google "ground wire sizing" and you'll find a chart. 8AWG for the neutral sounds wrong.

  • @PinchTune

    @PinchTune

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@@aaronstestlab I just watched another video and was thinking the same. I did pull the 6-6-8-10 through the conduit, but I haven't cut or connected anything. I think I'm going to pull it right back out and go 6-6-6-10. But I'll look up that chart first. For reference, I just watched another guy do a 100-amp sub panel and he went 4-4-4-6.

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    4-4-4-6 sounds undersized for 100 amps. Take a look at this chart for sizing: www.cerrowire.com/products/resources/tables-calculators/ampacity-charts/

  • @PinchTune

    @PinchTune

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@aaronstestlab Hi, that was my mistake. It was 3-3-3-6 in the 100A video. My bad. Thanks. I'm pretty sure I'm going to go 6-6-6-10 for my 60A. I just have to go remove that 8 neutral wire and run a green 6 I have here.

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    Don't run a green 6, run a white 6

  • @MyGarageWorkshop
    @MyGarageWorkshop3 жыл бұрын

    I thought AFCI not required in garages per NEC. Is that a local code or just for peace of mind? Nice video, thanks!

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    Piece of mind. Combo breakers are like $2 more than GFCI breakers so thought why not. Actually wish I hadn't though, have had some trouble with nuisance tripping when attaching motor loads to them.

  • @chollyeva
    @chollyeva3 жыл бұрын

    how did you determine that 60 amps was sufficient for the sub-panel? With a 40 amp breaker and a 30 amp breaker going at the same time for a continuous load wouldnt that trip the 60 amp breaker, maybe even with the 20 amp as well? just a question seems a little overloaded..? just asking..

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's really a question of what's actually going to be drawing current simultaneously and planning for that. Sum the rated current of all the breakers in your main box, and I'm guessing it will be 2 or 3 times the rating of the main breaker.

  • @rodstephens6612

    @rodstephens6612

    3 жыл бұрын

    The key here is what is 'continuous load' that has a specific meaning in electrical circuit planning. It means something that will run at maximum load for 3hrs or more. Aarons circuits would rarely be in concurrent use, let alone be at maximum load.

  • @jasonhilliard8522
    @jasonhilliard85222 жыл бұрын

    Is that a 100 a service? Coming in ? I just bought a house with a shop .I'm no electrician but was just wondering if 100 amp service will run my welder and air compressor

  • @rogerthehandyman4190
    @rogerthehandyman41902 жыл бұрын

    Hi, what kind wire you use for the sub panel with 60 amp breaker?

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    2 жыл бұрын

    6/3 NM-B(Romex)

  • @rogerthehandyman4190

    @rogerthehandyman4190

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@aaronstestlab ,thanks

  • @fja4916
    @fja4916 Жыл бұрын

    Thoughts on AFCI Breakers? Overkill? In some areas I hear you don’t have to put it on a refrigerator circuit, because of the risk of food going bad. Not sure how true, but that’s almost an admission that it’s not needed, or over-protected. But that’s just my uneducated thoughts. I’d appreciate any thoughts?

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    Жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't use them again in the garage. Brushed power tools tend to trip them.

  • @johndavies2949
    @johndavies29498 ай бұрын

    So on the feeder supplying your panel it's coming directly from your power meter? You don't have a disconnect at your meter? How old is your house?

  • @BigAlz11
    @BigAlz1128 күн бұрын

    It's my understanding that all sub panels have to have a separate bus rail for ground and neutral, did you bond this sub panel? How do you have the neutral, and ground, on the same rail on a subpanel?

  • @alhawkins3376
    @alhawkins3376 Жыл бұрын

    In addition to the covers not pulled the inspector didnt even test the EV, He had something else on his mind, i liked the way he said he' tested the house before ' like that justifies the rush.

  • @kommoncents5853
    @kommoncents58534 жыл бұрын

    I have a 200 amp main and installing a 100 amp sub-panel using 2-2-2-4 AL with a jacket, my panels are recessed into the studs just like in your video. If I run the 2-2-2-4 AL wire through the studs as you did, do I need to use conduit to protect the wires or leave the wire the same as you have, with nail plate protection if needed? The Walls will be dry-walled later.

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    4 жыл бұрын

    If the cable is within 1-1/4" of the face of the stud then it needs a plate. That's why I only used them when I notched the stud to get around the corner(as opposed to boring through the center). Don't run jacketed(romex) cable in conduit, that's a code violation. If you want to run conduit use individual conductors.

  • @KevinCoop1

    @KevinCoop1

    2 жыл бұрын

    #2 aluminum for a service is good for 100 amperes(service conductors for the full load of a dwelling can be 83% of the rated current of the main breaker. #2 for feeders is only rated at 90 amperes and the next size,#1 Al is rated at 100 so, you must use #1 aluminum for 100 amps.

  • @kommoncents5853

    @kommoncents5853

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@KevinCoop1 Thanks, yes I did use 1-1-1-3 Aluminum

  • @KevinCoop1

    @KevinCoop1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kommoncents5853 Happy to hear that you got it right!

  • @lesterwatson8519
    @lesterwatson85198 ай бұрын

    They make covers for the main lugs that can be installed, they must be brand specific to the panel.

  • @cheeseman9967
    @cheeseman99673 жыл бұрын

    Shouldn't you have a 4th wire (ground) coming from the main panel to the subpanel

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    I do

  • @randybeard6040
    @randybeard60403 жыл бұрын

    Small Probe unit is called a Continuity Light...

  • @chipjumper
    @chipjumper4 жыл бұрын

    Handyman CPA? That’s one in 10,000,000.

  • @KameraShy

    @KameraShy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Make that two in 10,000,000.

  • @rmkensington
    @rmkensington3 жыл бұрын

    I guess it is ok for a homeowner in Seattle to do their own electrical work as long as its inspected? I am needing a subpanel at my house in the garage, pretty much exactly as you did (not doing a outdoor shed though).

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    As far as I know, most jurisdictions will allow some degree of homeowner-performed electrical work provided there's a permit/inspection. It's usually gas work they get really worried about.

  • @rmkensington

    @rmkensington

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@aaronstestlab How much was the permit and how long did they take to show up? Did you just request the permit online? I just had an electrician quote me $3600 to do this, which is crazy.

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    Permit was $105. Basically, you pull it online and then schedule the inspection when you're done. If you request early enough, they'll do it same day. For me I sent the inspection request in at night which meant they came out the following afternoon.

  • @rmkensington

    @rmkensington

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@aaronstestlab awesome, thanks for the help!

  • @picnicin

    @picnicin

    3 жыл бұрын

    I am trying to do something similar and in Seattle area. I have few questions if you could help - 1. When selecting permit, what options did you pick? I saw the options for additional circuits but nothing about subpanel. 2. As my main panel is full, I want to replace a 2 pole 30 amp with 50/30 quad breaker and use the 50 to feed the subpanel. Have you run into information that says 50 amp subpanel may not be allowed and minimum you need is 60 amp?

  • @melectrok6859
    @melectrok68593 жыл бұрын

    Did you install this panel "upside down"? This panel does not have a main but it has main blank plate in the cover. However you feed the source in from the bottom. Does this mean the main blank is on the bottom and the original removed breaker slots are on the bottom of the stack? Cannot say it is wrong, but I have not seen it, and wondering if you found something saying this was ok?

  • @DM-kb4ck
    @DM-kb4ck3 жыл бұрын

    Why did you have to use neutral as hot? Thanks man

  • @miket5506

    @miket5506

    3 жыл бұрын

    Really comes down to not having to buy the 3 conductor w/ ground and then never using the white wire. As long as the white wire is taped black or red to indicate it's hot then there's no issue. My water heater, heat pump, and air handler are all wired like that.

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yup, what Mike said

  • @WHH203
    @WHH2033 ай бұрын

    How many amps is the main panel?

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    2 ай бұрын

    200

  • @geraldgeorge4042
    @geraldgeorge40423 ай бұрын

    My question is why didn’t you put the ground and bounded it to neutral

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    2 ай бұрын

    That only happens at them main panel. The neutral and ground are not bonded at subs.

  • @ryanmacewen511
    @ryanmacewen5113 жыл бұрын

    A friend had an inspection done. He failed. The inspector was insistent that his wire nuts be changed over to Buchanon branded wire nuts. Talk about a nightmare. He 'felt' IDEAL branded wire nuts were less than ideal. Apparently, lol. Some impectors... sheesh.

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    For real? That sounds like BS from the inspector.

  • @gamerbeast3234
    @gamerbeast32343 жыл бұрын

    Not to nitpick the video the installation was great but the 2 hot wires or (legs) coming in are not separate phases they are the same phase your whole house is single phase 240 being the whole phase 120 being split phase

  • @giovanigomez6485
    @giovanigomez6485 Жыл бұрын

    Can you install a sub panel upside down

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    Жыл бұрын

    Interior ones: sometimes. Exterior ones, never.

  • @BAKERHUSKIE
    @BAKERHUSKIE3 жыл бұрын

    I have never heard of concrete, but tape to as a warning.

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've got to be honest, I have no idea what this comment means.

  • @BAKERHUSKIE

    @BAKERHUSKIE

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@aaronstestlab you mentioned that it is required to do concrete where power lines are buried. In TEXAS, You need to do some kind of tape yellow or red as a warning as long as you follow the NEC code. Well, sorry I just read your name.

  • @rodstephens6612

    @rodstephens6612

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BAKERHUSKIE Aaron said (correctly) that the concrete was required on shallow buried feeders but only allowed for low ampage GFCI protected circuits. It is a very narrow definition. Often used where you might need to run underground thru rocky ground to a small shed.

  • @MovingToMnPro
    @MovingToMnPro3 жыл бұрын

    That inspector needs to be FIRED! Inspectors need to inspect. Good job on your part though and great video.

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've got mixed feelings on it. I know what you mean, inspectors are supposed to inspect and 90% of the reason I even bothered with a permit was because I wanted someone to double check my work. On the other hand, I appreciate that he was in and out. I can now rest easy knowing the insurance company can't use any self-performed electrical work as an excuse to avoid payment if something ever happened.

  • @LaughingblueSu

    @LaughingblueSu

    3 жыл бұрын

    Maybe the inspector watched this video on KZread. 🤣

  • @chrisguinotte9515

    @chrisguinotte9515

    Жыл бұрын

    @@aaronstestlab Did you wire your house? I did and when they inspect something else I did, they didn't open the box, saying they knew I did a good job. After all I am the living with doing it wrong.

  • @jordanwalter4381
    @jordanwalter43814 жыл бұрын

    Surprised you didn't have to have the covers off for inspection.

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    4 жыл бұрын

    Truthfully I didn't know what to expect. But I agree, did think it was kinda weird he didn't pull the sub-panel cover.

  • @KameraShy

    @KameraShy

    3 жыл бұрын

    I likewise am very surprised. I would have had them already off.

  • @Holop88
    @Holop884 жыл бұрын

    Inspector was to busy it seems but he was suppose to ask you to remove panel cover and at least check if your neutral was floating in the sub panel also surprised he didn't make a big deal about you burying your pvc conduit. Very surprised how easy you got him out of there. They are way harsher on electricians.

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    4 жыл бұрын

    I was surprised about not being asked to remove the sub-panel cover as well. But why would he have made a big deal about the pvc conduit?

  • @dannycalk8051
    @dannycalk80513 жыл бұрын

    Wow the inspector didn't even ask to remove the panel covers. What city do you live in. because where I live you wouldn't get by with that.

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    Burien, suburb of Seattle

  • @dannycalk8051

    @dannycalk8051

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@aaronstestlab Nuff Said.

  • @keonedwards4619
    @keonedwards46193 жыл бұрын

    Great job, I'm looking for someone to do something similar. Do you know anyone? I'm south of you in Tacoma.

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sorry I do not. Knew I'd be giving it a go myself so didn't really shop around.

  • @hillbilly9074
    @hillbilly90748 ай бұрын

    Wow. Canada sucks. I just bought the exact same panel for my barn. Was $114 on amazon with no breakers

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    8 ай бұрын

    That is extremely expensive for this panel, lol

  • @hillbilly9074

    @hillbilly9074

    8 ай бұрын

    Yea welcome to british columbia. Taxed out the ass from old trudy

  • @KameraShy
    @KameraShy3 жыл бұрын

    Reportedly equivalent style non-Square D breakers do not fit in their panels because of a bump they deliberately put on the bus bar.

  • @DM-kb4ck
    @DM-kb4ck3 жыл бұрын

    I get it, could you get the right color...

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's pretty much always going to be the case when running a strict 240 outlet wired with romex. 2-conductor wire will come with one white/one black plus ground.

  • @garykuehn1081
    @garykuehn10812 жыл бұрын

    You talk a lot about code however it does not appear that you are following it. The video shows or appears to look like you have the neutral and ground in the same bar. Code says on sub panels they have to be separated and a separate ground rod installed. Am I wrong? 🤔🤔

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @garykuehn1081

    @garykuehn1081

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@aaronstestlab do not believe I am. When I have a master electrician tell me that, I tend to believe him.

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    2 жыл бұрын

    The neutral and ground are separated in this video/my panel. Also, you only need to drive a separate ground if the panel is in a detached structure. You're wrong 2x.

  • @johndavies2949
    @johndavies29498 ай бұрын

    You do not bond your neutrals and grounds at main panel . You bond them at the first service disconnect which should be out by your meter. That's why the meter that the utility feeds is referred to as meter base main. Meter and main breaker combination. For safety. To disconnect all power to your house in case of fire or emergency or so those lugs you illustrated as being live are dead when you want to work on panel. If you do not have a main breaker outside turn off all breakers inside and remove your meter or call the power company to pull it. You shouldn't cut the seal unless it's in an emergency situation. The power company gets upset. Some meter rings that hold the meter tight to the base have a special locking device so you can't remove the meter and thus you have to call the power company.

  • @BryanSambat-ue7hz
    @BryanSambat-ue7hz3 ай бұрын

    You're a CPA?

  • @scottbarker9058
    @scottbarker90583 жыл бұрын

    where i live i have a federal pacific...STAB-LOCK!!

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    TBH, I have no idea what that means, but it doesn't sound fun, lol.

  • @farmerdave7965

    @farmerdave7965

    3 жыл бұрын

    House fire waiting to happen. That panel has been recalled.

  • @dannycalk8051

    @dannycalk8051

    3 жыл бұрын

    Federal Pacific Electric went off the market many years ago, and is not permitted any more . They have been considered a fire hazard, and use of FPE is prohibited. If you care about your family you will change it all out, they're very dangerous because they won't trip. Also Zinsco has been outlawed. Faulty equipment.

  • @scottbarker9058

    @scottbarker9058

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dannycalk8051 yep....caps...we are always blowing a breaker in the restroom.....when the bedroom turnns 2 much on....i guess we got lukeee???

  • @KevinCoop1

    @KevinCoop1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@scottbarker9058 Strongly suggest you replace it!

  • @mkl5448
    @mkl54483 жыл бұрын

    What kind of inspection was that??? Never even opened the panel.

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    The best kind

  • @Organplayer1947
    @Organplayer19473 жыл бұрын

    You failed to show how you sourced the subpanel voltage!!! That is what I was trying to learn11

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sourced the subpanel voltage? Not sure what this comment is referencing.

  • @Organplayer1947

    @Organplayer1947

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@aaronstestlab Well.....you didn't detail what may be obvious and this not needing detailing. But I was interested in seeing just how you powered the subpanel: how you sourced power. Obviously it comes from the main panel. But.....it just wasn't clear whether you needed to separate the gnd and the neutral for example (as I understand is required in some jurisdictions). DId you come directly off the mains to tne master panel or did you source voltage (to the sub) from a breaker?? I have no more room in my main breaker panel to source in that way. Thus....my keen interest. see? O..one more thought: IR you DO source directly from the mains to the master box, does yours have terminals for that purpose. Mine does not. Also: you can't legally connect a pair of wires to the same mains connect as you know (eg: one wire is the utility drop and the other being the feed to you sub. So ...this is why I wonder. NOthing about the integrity of the pres....I am sure it meats NEC in your jurisdition. THank you.

  • @edwinsGT8866

    @edwinsGT8866

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Organplayer1947 Skip to 5:00

  • @natewoi4119
    @natewoi4119Ай бұрын

    YOU HAVE YOU NURTURAL AND GROUND BONDED ON A SUB PANEL FAIL

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    Ай бұрын

    NO I DON”T - ATTEMPTED SMUG COMMENT FAIL

  • @ClayAdams-zj8yf

    @ClayAdams-zj8yf

    24 күн бұрын

    No he doesn't and if he did you wouldn't notice any ill effects. Chill Karen.

  • @joelee1406
    @joelee14063 жыл бұрын

    …々 c ,🎶😘😉 廾BC 一😳一

  • @johndavies2949
    @johndavies29498 ай бұрын

    Why not make a beginners guide for doing your own taxes?

  • @watchyourbackmike
    @watchyourbackmike3 жыл бұрын

    I hate square d I like murray

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cool story bro

  • @WardCo

    @WardCo

    3 жыл бұрын

    Except, of course, Murray has been bought by Siemens and their line discontinued. (Siemens has equivalent breakers though.)

  • @johndavies2949
    @johndavies29498 ай бұрын

    Not an electrician, not licensed to do this. CPA. Well even as a licensed electrician I have my income taxes done by a ,CPA. I hire a professional, why wouldn't you?

  • @joshmartin7558

    @joshmartin7558

    3 ай бұрын

    Well thanks to guys like this sharing their knowledge, home owners that are handy can save themselves thousands of dollars

  • @shaun7611
    @shaun76113 жыл бұрын

    Heavy Filipino accent

  • @edwardcudeyro5113
    @edwardcudeyro51133 жыл бұрын

    The minimum requirement today is 100 amp sub panel you’re not allowed to put less than 100 and he’s not following the electrical code if he’s installing a 60 amp that’s an violation.

  • @aaronstestlab

    @aaronstestlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    This comment is incorrect

  • @TheTubejunky
    @TheTubejunky5 ай бұрын

    I love the non electricians installing equipment. The powers that be want large amounts of money to do something that isnt equal to a 75k$ whitehouse hammer. Learn learn learn then do SAFELY. Done.

  • @edwardcudeyro5113
    @edwardcudeyro51133 жыл бұрын

    Electrical work is not a Harvey consult with a license electrician.