Just found your channel. Licensed electrician going on 40 years. Nice job !

As an electrical guy, we get to install what the customer wants inside code. I would encourage a homeowner in this situation to consider larger conduit. With all that digging and concrete cutting and all, it was only a 60 Amp panel. With electric cars needing a 50 Amp circuit, upsizing th pipe will allow the 60 Amp wire to be used to pull in a larger wire for the electric car without re-digging. A power up-grade would just need to pull larger wire and swap the panel for a larger one. Also, consider 2 or 3 extra pipes while the trench is open.....maybe a hard-wire server or security cameras or some kind of diner bell/distress warning system (flashing light for high noise areas). Love the work Joel.

@EverydayHomeRepairs

Жыл бұрын

Really good advice Keith, Joel and I (Scott) appreciate the feedback 👍

@victornaja7927

Жыл бұрын

can he gotten away with 100 amp sub panel instead of 125amp

@keithharrington8715

Жыл бұрын

@victornaja7927 there is a load calculation in the National Electrical Code chapter 2 i think section 220 (not by my book). That can be used to calculate the loading expected on a sub panel or to a house. This is the section that expects some loads not to work when others are running (a/c running, no need for heat). The panel installed should be able to handle at least that much load. You can go bigger, not smaller. So, a 100 Amp breaker and 100 amp supply can feed into a 125 panel, but all the supplying breakers should be sized for the wire supplying, including the isolation input breaker in the panel. So, some lights and a car charger, can have less amps than a workshop and car charger. In this video, I think it would be okay if I remember correctly. However, I would encourage you to involve a pro to at least make sure you get the correct stuff for your project. PS. I always recommend bigger conduit and multiple conduits for future upgrades and things like security, internet, and maybe a warning light for trouble in the house. A light can be "heard" over any noise. While your trench is open, you can drop in many pipes and cap them off for future use or..... re-dig later?

@victornaja7927

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I'm a diy to the core. I'm planning to build my garage n as I'm trying to figure out the sub box n cable I'm already preparing to to have pipe fir ethernet cable n separate pipe fir electric

@keithharrington8715

Жыл бұрын

@victornaja7927 I often recommend getting a pro involved. You can involve them only at the level where they advise you and allow you to do everything yourself. (I understand very well both the self pride and joy in doing things yourself) They may have solution to problems you do not know you will have.....do you need an external disconnect on the building, type of wires to run, and more. One man called his "barn" an agricultural building for taxes or building money discounts. That title enacts extra electrical requirements and has its own electrical section. Again, while the trench is open, consider a bigger conduit.....(200 amps). This will allow major upgrades no matter the panel load you install today. Extra pipes for cable tv (waiting room), internet for sales, security cameras, dinner bell (flashing light), etc. It is easy to drop in an extra pipe and put string/rope in it today and easily pull in what you want/need tomorrow....minus extra digging. Hope you have a good build.

I was watching this and thought hey you just tied your neutral and grounds together, that's not right. Then you fixed it. Thanks for showing us all of this including your mistakes. We are all human and constantly learning. Great video and collab.

@EverydayHomeRepairs

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@kailaharvard

Жыл бұрын

I thought they tie together in main box anyway🤷🏾🤷🏾🤷🏾

@kailaharvard

Жыл бұрын

Oo nevermind, I see your working off of the sub, not the main...🤦🏾🤦🏾🤦🏾

@rickvug

Жыл бұрын

It made me feel good to notice this myself based on comments earlier in the video. Accidental confidence builder!

@mattthomson1689

10 ай бұрын

Nothing quite like a HOT project!

Excellent Job all the way around, I found it very interesting at 15:13 regarding the expansion and contraction of the conduit due to seasonal warming and cooling. Brushing up for some out-building wiring jobs. Your tips are golden! Another pro-tip for some extensive digging and excavating small scale, buy used equipment that runs well, keep it as long as you need it, and then sell it off after the job is complete, It's far cheaper than renting for several weeks. :)

@EverydayHomeRepairs

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. If you want more of Joel (the guy in the video) check out his channel at @ElectricProAcademy

@EverydayHomeRepairs

10 ай бұрын

Over 1,000 videos published 🤯 nice work with the channel!

Kudos for citing N.E.C. So many folks on videos just say or show how to do things. Citing N.E.C fully with numbers gives great reference points for others to go do more research.

Nice video, believable cost breakdown from an actual electrician is valuable, almost missed it snuck in the end

Absolutely the best video I found on youtube regarding how to install a sub-panel!!! Thank you!

This guys the best! Thanks for teaching me the correct way to install sub panel. Followed your directions and it wen't really well!

Joel is by far the best I’ve watched on the tube. Great teacher.

@avramsnegirev3930

Жыл бұрын

He is good teacher on the labor part, but regarding code i would recommend an actual code instructor. Some of the stuff that he claims is code isnt actually code.

I've been doing a mountain of research for exactly the same project. This is far and away the most informative video I have watch about doing a subpanel job

@cantlean4440

Жыл бұрын

I'm an electrician who just watched this video. How did your subpanel install go?

@victornaja7927

Жыл бұрын

@@cantlean4440 hi guys may i ask how high was his subpanel at in the new subpanel at the garage from the ground up i did not catch that please

This was probably the most perfectly explained and detailed video I’ve ever watched! It wasn’t overwhelming at any point. Just specific and explained very very well. Great video!

@EverydayHomeRepairs

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!, Joel did a great job and has a TON more videos over on his KZread channel as well www.youtube.com/@ElectricProAcademy

Joel is a fabulous teacher!

Good work..!!!✅ And good shot at 24:42 of the power IN hookup on this Sub Panel 😎👍👏

Amazing work. I did the same thing but an easier run in 2019. One thing I would definitely suggest is to run an extra piece of conduit (I did 3/4 and 1.25" for my needs), the extra piece being for Ethernet wires for POE powered cameras and connecting to my big inverter on my main solar array (data tracking, updating). May be great to have a WiFi access point in the garage or cameras or future needs and just keep it empty! Oh, and one safety thing not mentioned - if you get an SDS max hammer drill to do large drilling, be extra careful that it doesn't bind and twist on you - that can break your arm off! Didn't happen to me but I used one for drilling 4-5" hole through 2 cinderblock walls at work and man the thing was crazy powerful. Only power tool that scared me to use a bit, even with being careful.

@anthonywinters3288

2 жыл бұрын

You have never used a Harbor freight angle grinder before then…🤣… you feel death standing behind you.

@whattheschmidt

2 жыл бұрын

@@anthonywinters3288 lol I have a Harbor freight one actually, but I paid for the 'good' one, not the $10 one. I use hammer drills a lot but the massive ones are beasts and the twisting can be dangerous.

@brazyflow2850

Жыл бұрын

I agree being scared of the bigger hammer drills cause hitting a rebar man it will twist your arm off lol.

@MukYJ

Жыл бұрын

@@anthonywinters3288 I have an orange HF grinder that is noisy as hell but absolutely will not die. It’s about 15 years old and has not let me down yet.

Thanks. Should mention that call 811 system for public utility location. Was contemplating a 75 foot buried extension for an RV pad. Gave me a ton to think about. Down here in Central Texas the frost line isn’t an issue. But ground shifting between dry and wet a deal that would force a gravel base to the trench on my run which has a 10 foot drop in the run.

you provided me with information that i had forgotten. very well done.

Pro tips from Mr Underground. Don't always use fittings for bends. On the bend by the drainage pipe you could have easily dug a sweeping curve and eliminated 90% of the drag when pulling wire. Same with the 45s approaching the garage. Also, that trench isn't 18" deep :) Also, I think it would be easy enough to "shoot" that wide sidewalk instead of removing and replacing the concrete. Dig the trench at the proper angle and depth (where the drain pipe was). Glue a male adapter and brass spray nozzle on one end of a piece of PVC and a hose adapter on the other. Lay it LEVEL in the trench and start working it through. If it is hard soil, let it sit for 30 seconds if and work it forward. Repeat as necessary. In 10 minutes, your pipe is under the walk. It's messy but quick and cheap. I learned that in the olden days installing irrigation systems. I don't know all the details but I may have chosen to come from the main panel. It's easy enough to make a couple spaces by moving two circuits to the original sub. But, it was probably a mess in there and easier to use the sub. I'm old and retired and came here to bust your balls, but I can't. I'll give you a 10 out of 10 :)

This was an extremely helpful video! The host doing all the work and talking is amazing at explaining everything and giving us tips. Overall a 10/10 video and I appreciate the work that went into this for all of us!!!

I'm a subscriber to both of you guys. Retired 25 year commercial electrician. You guys keep me up to date on codes, how-to's and trends.

@BDBD16

2 жыл бұрын

Whats Joel's channel link?

@americandreamsicle1

2 жыл бұрын

@@BDBD16 electric pro akademy

@americandreamsicle1

2 жыл бұрын

Academy

@EverydayHomeRepairs

2 жыл бұрын

Joel's Channel = kzread.info

@EverydayHomeRepairs

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the support Roxanne 👍

This was great I was looking for a video to wire 240 to my garage these guys have the panel in the garage already easy work... I am going to have to do some digging since I'm doing that might as well do a subpanel. The price you quoted surprised me

Awsome video! One of the best I've seen. You gave so much great information.

@EverydayHomeRepairs

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Joel is a BEAST 💪

Amazing advice. Thanks for sharing.

Great video. Well explained and helped me out enormously

@EverydayHomeRepairs

Жыл бұрын

That is what we are here for, happy to help 👍

Great instructions! thanks

You did an excellent job step-by-step explaining and especially delivering those NEC Codes more videos, please

Great Video, Thanks for the info.

Thought was good video.. clear .. nice clean job! Seen other comments that said negatives… tend stay on the positive note… keep on my man!! Def learned from it!

You totally threw me off, thinking this was gonna be an Electric Pro Academy video, seeing Joel in the thumbnail, then when I clicked it, seeing you with Everyday Home Repairs. Between you two, Stud Pack, Dustin Stelzer's two channels with Electrician U, and a few others, I am so in love with learning all this stuff about electrical!

Great video full of information. My question is how do you compensate for drainage around the foundation of the house? On my house the drainage at the back of the house where I have to run the conduit is at the 24 inch depth.

Had to pull SEU for my dad from our panel to his new workshop about 200ft away. Even lubed up it still took two grown men pulling in unison to get it to go.

This so good, thank you!

I like how you explain the codes.

I learned so much from this video. I'm now confident to do this myself.

2:15 doubles as a pickup line for the ladies

@Raindancermusic

2 жыл бұрын

Classic 🤣

@dormbasedbusiness

5 ай бұрын

You read my mind. 4:36 for part 2

Man this is awesome. Thank you for the step by step with simple explanation as to why things are done per code. Helps me understand for sure. Great video.

oh thats sick, you both are my favorite

In Canada we are fortunate to be able to use Tech Cable for underground which eliminates the conduit and the need to pull wires thru conduits.

Best video I have seen on this topic.

@EverydayHomeRepairs

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I actually did a similar project myself a few weeks ago, good to see we almost did it completely properly. I opted to lay UF cable underground because that turned out to be a fair bit cheaper than getting separate conductors and conduit, and it skips the hassle of pulling cable all that distance.

@joelwalsman773

2 жыл бұрын

Righto! There’s a new product I love called Trable Cable with a direct burial, sunlight, damage resistant and joist pull rating. Super stuff!

One of the best explanations for this job that I've seen. Good job.

Excellent video and details. Thx. What about the grounding to ground rods at the garage?

Great video! So I was watching when the sub panel in the house was being wired and I thought to myself "I thought that since this was a sub panel grounds and neutrals were supposed to be separate" and sure enough he called it out as a mistake - AWESOME! What a great way to reinforce that concept (if he didn't actually do it by mistake).

@michaelking42

Жыл бұрын

I just did the same thing.

Good stuff. Subbed immediately!!!!

Very informative. Why no main breaker in the garage? Even if not required, would seem like a priority need.

why did you not need a main breaker shut off on sub panel in separate garage building

Consummate professional...he toned it down and kept it pro. On his channel he's having a ton of fun.

Thanks for cutting the video. Is a expansion fitting not required where it enters / exits the ground into the building?

Joel, in Arizona we don’t license electricians, only electrical contractors. So, if a master electrician were to move here from say Indiana, and want to pull wire on his own, he would first have to get a contractors license, post a bond, get a business license before doing any work that required a permit or cost more than $1500. The local junior college runs a two year certificate program but after graduation, you’d still have to work op for a contractor before going out on your own.

Joel, that cut you made of the conduit stub out from the house was angled with the reciprocating saw, doesnt allow for full seating of the pipe when glued into the LB conduit body and as you said the weakest point in the connections, but thank you again for sharing the install of this job!!

The install was excellent! The electrician has been doing commercial work! Residential is “120/240 volt Single Phase 3 wire system”. Single phase, not 2 phase. There is no phase A and phase B. It is Line 1 and Line 2. Respectfully, Kevin

@EverydayHomeRepairs

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback Kevin.

Really good video! Love the insights, tips and how-to’s. Well Done! Thanks! 👍💪👌

Nice! I hired an electrician but got stuck diggin my trench with a pick and shovel to save a few bucks.

@EverydayHomeRepairs

2 жыл бұрын

Sure the electrician was happy 😂 I do the same thing on some projects to save a few bucks #sweatequity

I really like your video. You cover so many of the issues we find trying to troubleshoot the mistakes by non licensed person. The sch 80 is a huge miss by people and when the sch 40 shatters in the freeze or heat after a few years? FYI, Texas does not allow homeowners to perform their own electrical. Two issues I need to comment on. 1. NEC table 300.5. all direct burial wires, PVC conduits, and rigid metal conduits etc. under a driveway shall be 24" depth, not 18" as you stated. Landscaping is 18". It's under the vehicle traffic, highway, roadways, and driveway column. 2. All the Romex wire (non metallic sheathed cable) entering the house panels are using PVC connectors and not strapped. This is incorrect. NEC Art 312.5C Cables entering a cabinet, panel, or box shall be secured at entrance and then secured again at 12" leaving the panel. There is the exception for using non flexible raceway more than 18" in length. Having all the wires entering the panel unsecured is a real issue. Good luck, keep the great videos coming. Customers really need to know how much labor and work these jobs are to do. Because suddenly homeowners think... that's not hard?

@yourchannelhasnocontent8536

Жыл бұрын

Hi John. 1) NEC table 300.5 also states "One- and two-family dwelling driveways and outdoor parking areas, and used only for dwelling-related purposes" requires burial cover of 18" as he stated. 2) The main and sub are "old work" and likely passed inspection at the time of install so wire strapping is likely a non issue in this case. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I'd be more concerned about metal panel being fastened directly to below grade masonry but hard to tell if anything was done to help prevent corrosion

@SeanFitz-vo4fm

6 ай бұрын

I believe the most recent code now calls for 'expansion fittings' installed on the pvc conduit where it is above ground, to prevent damage from expansion/contraction.

I enoyed the project video. i also am doingthis kind of project too oneday.

amazing video! would you tell what gage did you use for two hot wires, ground and neutral wire? else where did you buy the sub panel?

Awesome video I'm doing something similar & love to find videos that support my project. Fortunately I only need a trench less than 30 ft every thing else is inside. Yes it will be in PVC inside & out.

Heres a question for you. My garage is a metal building kit. The building dept had me tie a ground to the rebar in the foundation. What are the connection points for that ground along with the 2 ground rods? Does the foundation ground tie to the ground rods then the ground rods to the panel ? Or the foundation ground to the panel ground and the two ground rods to the panel ground as well. Then I'll also have the ground from the main house panel to the sub panel as well !? OR. does the foundation ground tie to the metal garage frame and continue on to the sub panel ?

Your videos are really great. I was wondering can you do a video on how to wire a 12/3 wire to a junction box to two separate lines off of a 2 pole 20amp ?

I an electrical contractor from England. That was so long . We would just run a steel wire armour cable. Much easier. The cable is protected by wire mesh which you can Also use as the earth ( ground ). You just bury the cable straight into the ground. Also we would have to test the earth loop impedance to make sure the MCB protecting the new board would disconnect quickly enough under fault conditions.

@IGoProEVERYTHING

Жыл бұрын

How long does this steel armour cable last?

@markgayle5453

Жыл бұрын

@@IGoProEVERYTHING 50 yrs minimum at least depends like all cables how much it is used.

Good video. Good you mentioned checking for utilities. In my state,Dig Safe (covers 5 states in NE) will check for all utilities and other cables (ISP cable services) that are underground. I installed an independent ground for my solar panel/turbine set up, Dig Safe was very thorough.

Super thoughtful video. You can use a rod push system to avoid cutting the drive. Cable pulling lube is essential for making pulls easier. Step drill, will be getting one now!

@thezfunk

2 жыл бұрын

But the lube is so nasty and gets all over everything.

This guy is great

Local rental stores are absolutely the way to go. We rented a stump grinder from home depot and it was missing 1 of 3 cutting teeth. Took it back and every one they had was missing at least one tooth. Went to our local rental store and the guy rented us this absolute beast of a stump grinder on tracks and a hydraulic cutting head. It even came with its own trailer, and it maybe cost $10 more. What started out as us removing one stump, turned into 15+ trees because that first stump took us 10 minutes and we wanted to get our money's worth.

Really good step-by-step. Noticed two grounds at the sub-panel, one (green wire) obviously comes from the main along with the two hots and neutral. I'm assuming the bare copper ground wire came from a separate ground rod outside of the second structure. Can someone verify please?

Thank you brother.

@EverydayHomeRepairs

7 ай бұрын

👊

You could move a couple of 120v circuits to the sub-panel and then run the garage sub-panel from the main.

So I installed a Spa Disconnect box using 6 GA THHN for the Hots and Neutral and 8 Ga for the Ground. The box is rated for 50 Amps. Are you saying I could change out feed breaker and GFCI breaker to 60 amps using the same 6 GA wires?

Great video! thanks for sharing. I have a somewhat different situation. I have my main, basement panel as a sub panel from a newly installed 200amp upgrade in the garage. The garage is attached to the house with wires running under a concrete slab. Is it possible to use the existing 1.5" conduit running under the slab, for a 30 amp power backup from an inverter located in the garage? Sadly, the primary 200amp panel has about 3 circuits on it while the original basement panel is fully loaded. any suggestions, folks?

@cantlean4440

Жыл бұрын

What is the inverter for? Solar panels or electric car charger?

I have a question I have a meter combo that is 200 amps and has 4 spaces. Out of those 4 spaces, 1 is available. Is it possible to run the 4 breakers in that panel to a sub-panel net to it? Put a 200 amp breaker in the combo meter panel. To power the 200amp sub.

How did y'all get the cord through the conduit that you used to pull the wire through?

@EverydayHomeRepairs

Жыл бұрын

Just fished the fish tape through from the garage side. This usually is fairly easy but will get harder and you increase the number of elbows.

In need install 100A sub panel in my garage and distance is main panel to garage is 65 feet. Which wire should I use.

I’m a rookie, but at least I pulled wire during the conduit install.

How do we water and air tight the holes those we drill in the wall? Caulk, spray foam or any other material ?

Needs a main disconnect in the garage sub or less than 6 handle throws. If NEC 2020 the 6 throw rule is voided.

Regarding the ~3:20 part about the cover on the panel, @Joel/@Electric Pro Academy, would there be any problems with adding a bit of a ledge/support as like just a flat board underneath and along the bottom of the panel's cover, onto the nailer board (if one's house has it), just to make the removal of the panel cover that much less straining and dangerous?

Great Video......But, I missed the line that was used to pull the 4 conductors to the garage through the conduit.....when was that done? Thanks Much!

Wow, I am happy I took the time to watch this. I just saved myself from getting taken to the cleaners! Had a company I didn't know anything about estimate a solar job and thanks to my late father, a "Local 58 Detroit Electrical Workers Union" a 60-year master electrician, oops an industrial electrician. I turned the job down because we felt I was going to get the shaft. And you just confirmed it! Cool! By the way, we're now in AZ. Yavapai County, the home of the shaft..... Why is it that so many have to try to stick it to the little guy! So Thank you again for this video! And yea, our id here is on my hat pic, I have been into better health for 2 decades now!

Just wondering; when you checked the subpanel and had voltage between hot to ground, I found that in my detached garage. I didnt know if that was correct or a wiring problem. Are the outlets downstream suppose to also be with voltage between hot to ground? You are good as an instructor! Glad I found you channel.

I did not see what you used to connect to the your electrical cable before you pulled it through (I watched twice). Did you have an electrical snake or just some bare wire you purchased? When and how did you push it through?

Great video I was wondering can I use a 60 amp breaker sub panel instead of lug panel

@pld8993

10 ай бұрын

yes

I must have missed it but what size wire was used and what size breaker was used in the basement to garage sub panel?

Hey there Scott, first, thanks for sharing this video. Now, my question. In the video where you put a subpanel near (next to) the main, you run the subpanel supply CB at the main panel. Yet in this case I see the subpanel main breaker is located in the subpanel, not the main panel. What gives? Thanks in advance. Daniel

Any videos on exterior sub panels? I guess more or less best practices on the install as i know code will change on location.

If the sub panel is for an attatched garage do you tie the ground from the main panel or are you creating a new ground in the sub panel with additional grounding rods? I am looking to add 240 to my garage for my tools.

@pld8993

5 ай бұрын

If it's an attached garage you run a ground with the circuit conductors, no additional ground rods required.

I like that shirt that Mr. Scott is wearing.

Love your step by step explanation style! You do good work! I’ve done a lot of electrical projects over many years, electrical engineer, Army trained electrician, many DIY projects. One question about your cable pull step: why deal with the struggle of the heavy pull? You could simply run the cable through each 10’ section of conduit and then lay it in the trench with no pulling? Your thoughts? Thanks! Dan

@golftor

2 жыл бұрын

Conduit must be installed as a complete system before pulling wires. (at least according to Canadian Electrical code)

@michaelking42

Жыл бұрын

It is definitely an option to do it this way in Australia. Run it through each length first then glue it.

When you put a sub panel in a basement, obviously there are no “ground rods”. Does it need additional grounding beyond the feed conductor?

@26:10 he states the main lugs in the existing sub panel are energized, which is surprising because you'd think they were fed from the existing main panel at a breaker that could be switched off

I usually remove the two middle screws last on panels installed higher up. Now about separation of grounds and neutrals....what difference does it make when the neutral and ground bus bars are bonded to the panel...which electrical inspectors look for! Another observation is why ground the sub panel when your sub panel is bonded to the main panel? I realize this extra bit of protection is needed on certain applications...but I don't see the grounding issue! I believe the NEC clearly states if a grounding is used, it must be solid #6 copper!

dude 6:50 that machine was impressive. it was like the brick was butter. I know it was sped up but still.

I have a subpanel in the garage that I want to replace. It has its own ground rod and is neutral bonded, it only has 3 feeder wires coming in from the Main Panel. I am confused to whether there should be a neutral - ground bonding or the the neutral and ground should not be bonded.

Use white electrical tape for pulls as it leaves absolutely no residue after coming off. You can even write on it with a sharpie.

Hi there my breaker is Jose nice to see you, a question is there a way to connect a sub panel to a main fuse panel?

excellent

@EverydayHomeRepairs

11 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Did you eventually remove the garage sub-panel green bonding screw?

Always get a kick out of watching how easy you guys have it when digging a trench. I live in a Canadian province nicknamed The Rock and all you need to do is try to dig and you'll quickly find out why it has that nickname. You couldn't go 2 feet without finding boulders the size of your head or larger. That trencher would have a nervous breakdown.

Won't lie... I enjoyed this video

In your video. What or style torque tool did you use. Torque Screwdriver?

Why did you not have to install disconnect or main panel in garage NEC 225.30?

Would this wire work for a 180’ run to power a 100 amp panel?