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@prezmrmthegreatiinnovative3235

23 күн бұрын

Id Like to see a vid bout this: NATO and EU should Send more Their old and new ww1 interwar ww2 COLD WAR etc equipment and tech to ukraine aswell As thousands to millions of volunteers

@Paulftate

23 күн бұрын

​I'm thinking the difference in population sizes ... Ukraine operates more like the IDF .... operates more in a specialty capacity instead of Banzai charges

@merafirewing6591

23 күн бұрын

​@@prezmrmthegreatiinnovative3235 the problem is the matter of ammunition and rounds, all the old equipment they had will be lacking in shells.

@giovanni-ed7zq

23 күн бұрын

it was effective when ukraine was low on artillery shells and had to rely on drones, but with resupply of shells arriving, you are seeing those turtle tanks are not faring as well now. i assume the experiment ends soon.

@Paulftate

23 күн бұрын

Resupply of shells you say .... America is not serious and their endeavor ... Jihad Joe Supply moves as slow as he does in real life on stage doing the Pee Wee Herman Shuffle

3:30 - so... tanks return to original role: breaching no man's land.

@koalakyle19

23 күн бұрын

Spot on

@miriamweller812

23 күн бұрын

Never were made for much else, the sole reason people think that Tanks are something else was NATO fascism slaughter third world countries and when the main weaponry of your victim are old asssault rifles with at best a few 100m range, than a tank is godlike. Against a real army, a tank becomes a joke alone by its extremely limited firing range in comparison to all other units. In that case the main goal is to be send against the enemy and take as many hits as possible, while the other system analyse the attacker for their strikes.

@ShmuckCanuck

23 күн бұрын

@@miriamweller812 tanks were made for lots of other things and most tanks wernt made for that That’s also not what tanks were originally for ; tanks are for dealing with machine guns That’s what they were for ; that’s it It’s nothing fancy it’s just guns were invented that could fire thidands of bullets super rapidly And so somethkng was needed to make somdiers bullet proof (remeber early tanks were literally just really shitty armored personell carriers None of them had cannons ; most didn’t really have machine guns They just had a bunch of infsntry and firing ports

@ShmuckCanuck

23 күн бұрын

@@miriamweller812 but they weee aware before the First World War they just; wernt common and nobody was excited about them

@ShmuckCanuck

23 күн бұрын

@@miriamweller812 also tanks rarely get used in third world wars Because poor countries have really shitty roads When your trying to back an unpouor leader you just give trhrm helicoters and light aircraft The enemy has no anti air ability and you can just wreck him from the air without risk of ambush or getting stuck in the mud

"If it looks stupid, but it works, it isn't stupid." - Engineers everywhere.

@prokremelskidezolati1426

23 күн бұрын

2 drones and it is stupid

@kaihiwatari3841

23 күн бұрын

Lol ever seen a battlefield video of this tank . I have seen this survive more than 3 drone strikes and recently saw a video of this tank go over some half a dozen mines and still crew walked away .

@lancerevo9747

23 күн бұрын

​@@prokremelskidezolati1426but it still works after 2 drones. Maybe it's you that's stupid.

@mrgamingking18

23 күн бұрын

@@prokremelskidezolati1426I feel like you are pretty stupid

@Theaverageazn247

23 күн бұрын

@@kaihiwatari3841 its a trade off. the tank becomes extremely drone resistant but weak to traditional AT weapons.

Somewhere out in the world are a few hundred engineers that spent their entire careers painstakingly shaving millimeters of height off of the tanks men are now building barns on top of.

@terjeoseberg990

22 күн бұрын

LOL

@Dr.Kraig_Ren

21 күн бұрын

They did it to make them look cool and sell it to governments at overpriced rates

They do actually do a good job against FPV drones tbf. They also fare badly against anything like a tank shell or artillery, because all of this armour makes you slow, it covers your sensors giving you less visibility, and you’re a bigger, taller target. Also artillery doesn’t care how many shed roofs you strap to yourself, you’re still just as dead. So these tanks can exploit the fact that Ukraine has a lot of drones, and not a lot of artillery, and they do it well. The solution is we need to restock them with more artillery and tanks, so these things can go back on the scrap heap.

@radicalantitheist

21 күн бұрын

"The solution is we need to restock them with more artillery" where do you get "more" from? the previously promised artillery is not even produced yet, and then russia will simply go back to attriting over advancing

@quoccuongtran724

17 күн бұрын

it was just an extreme modification choice against an extreme situation (drones are everywhere, artillery is few), which comes with massive trade-offs (taller profile, bad visibility & as much gun traverse as a ww2 casemate tank destroyer/assault gun) a striking comparison would be ukrainian tanks that have to face against a more widespread russian artillery, they dont have this kind of extreme modification if ukraine were to be stocked with more artillery shells, these turtle tanks would die out and the remaining russian tanks would simply adapt into new forms

@LukeTEvans

4 күн бұрын

nuh uh

Like the old saying goes: "If it looks stupid but it works, then it ain't stupid"

@t.n.h.ptheneohumanpatterna8334

23 күн бұрын

Hi Mao I’m a huge fan

They have rediscovered the stug life

@angmori172

23 күн бұрын

Well, it's the 'stug we have at home' in that case

@MauiWowie51

23 күн бұрын

@@angmori172 Stug crews wish they had a t72 with cage armor...

@angmori172

23 күн бұрын

​@@MauiWowie51 damn, do you have a license for such quantities of autism?

@galactic-guy

23 күн бұрын

​@@MauiWowie51any WW2 tank crew would wish to have a tank from the cold war so what's your point?

@worldoftancraft

20 күн бұрын

it's called samohodnaâ ustanovka, mister Jorman

The fact that they work was really the biggest surprise of the war to me. I thought they looked so ridiculous but then I saw videos of them shrugging off dozens of drone attacks that would have destroyed any other tanks. I guess if it looks silly but it works, it ain't silly.

@louiss.w1944

23 күн бұрын

Saw a clip on r/combat footage of a drone flying under the cage revealing a dozen Russian conscripts before exploding and the video cutting out. Maybe it was lucky but godamn the cages aren’t foolproof..

@giantWario

23 күн бұрын

@@louiss.w1944 ...under the cage is the tank. You wouldn't see some conscripts just sitting on top of the tank under the cage, you'd just see a frigging tank. If you're gonna lie, try to make it a believable one.

@louiss.w1944

23 күн бұрын

@@giantWario believe it or not but the Russians were atop the tank and caught completely off guard. Want the link to see for yourself?

@raysides3159

23 күн бұрын

​@@louiss.w1944 yes you fkn liar

@giantWario

23 күн бұрын

@@louiss.w1944 Of course I do. But of course, you can't send external links on KZread so I don't know why you're acting like that's an option. Once again, you're a bad liar.

its not about making an invincible tank , it just has to take a few more hits AND be in the front to buy time for the rest of the assault.

@Mcsqw

23 күн бұрын

Indeed. People get a bit obsessed with Mobility, Protection and Firepower, when Cost and Speed of Production are ultimately more important than either. A T-14 Armata would be vastly superior to one of these bodge jobs, but that's irrelevant when you've got zero Armata's and a few hundred tanks that already exist and a few blokes with some welding gear.

Basically less MBTS and more IFV/APC on the modern battlefield now... As always, it all comes down to the infantry and his rifle!

@davidford3115

23 күн бұрын

Because the people who advocated mass tank battles haven't read Heinz Guderian's book, "Achtung Panzer". Guderian said that tanks should ALWAYS be escorted by an infantry platoon.

It keeps the turret from landing on nearby troops. Genius.

@RizZRizZ-

20 күн бұрын

Hahaha

@user-cd6nk4hu7b

20 күн бұрын

It gets blown up in 5 directions because you can only look straight ahead also makes the tank slower and more clumsy

@joseaca1010

20 күн бұрын

You know whats the biggest survival adaptation of this tank? Its not the shed, its the fact they are sent to the front without ammo, so unlike most russia tanks, they dont blow up completely when struck by FPVs, thats literally much more effective than the shed

@user-qi2gq6ef3w

20 күн бұрын

​@@joseaca1010but they are firing shells in video....

@joseaca1010

20 күн бұрын

@@user-qi2gq6ef3w oh sorry, must be the minority, the videos ive seen of these thing being hit never show em firing, in fact, often the only person inside the tank is the driver it seems

The experts: Drones have rendered the tank obsolete! Some front line grunt: Hey Yuri, we should slap together a sheet metal cover for our tank so we don't get blown up when drones drop explosives on us.

@merafirewing6591

23 күн бұрын

Only Ivan can cook up such a plan.

@Warren_Peace

23 күн бұрын

A little correction... Drones made expensive, over-engineered tanks obsolete. Cheap tanks that could easily be repaired and built still works fine.

@merafirewing6591

23 күн бұрын

@@Warren_Peace meaning a ww2 or early cold war era tank would be viable again?

@MauiWowie51

23 күн бұрын

@@merafirewing6591 they were never "unviable". ANY tank is better than no tank. would you rather be in a t34 or on foot vs a machine gun crew?

@Warren_Peace

23 күн бұрын

@@merafirewing6591 Short answer, yes. It is pretty ironic that the supposedly backward Soviet strategy has proven more prophetic than the much praised NATO ones when tested in a peer/near peer modern conflict.

a story of how small changes make a huge difference. in ww2 the British lost a number of tanks whilst the crew were on the outside having a tea break. post war all british tanks have an internal boiler to ensure tea can be made at any point rather than hopping out and geting out the stove. small change saves lives.

The battering ram analogy is apt

Because they work? Definitely protects from small drones. Especially when theyre stuffed with jammers.

@ShmuckCanuck

23 күн бұрын

I mean they don’t “work” in that sense but they do work strategically In no way ; are they impervious of even that hard to destroy You can one hundred percent take them out but according to numerous ukranian sources , it went from 1-2 drones to 6-8 Thre way the Russians seem to be using them ks they’ll send them in first or alone They fuck about and do what damage they can , clear a rout supoort infsntry And Ukraine then either has to just lead them to do there thing; and take the consequences and deal with it without drones Or; it does take it out but then it’s used up a good chunk of the drones it has on hand and easily deployed In which case Russia can then exploit that momentary weakness by Russian uo more conventionally outfield vehicles and make an attack during the period where Ukraine has less to no drone support

@ShmuckCanuck

23 күн бұрын

Presumably that’s why there’s so much footage of them moving around in Russian areas in company with little battle groups of other vehicles that mostly arnt turtle tanks

@Dr.Kraig_Ren

21 күн бұрын

Explosives lost most of the power when they hit the cage

ukraine soldiers even admited these things are eating up lots of drones and munitions. its a good strategy

well, that standoff distance is going to absolutely ruin HEAT jets... demolition ranch proved that standoff distance is REALLY important

@edc1569

23 күн бұрын

Demolition what?

@someguydino6770

23 күн бұрын

@@edc1569 demolition ranch is just a simple minded narcissist, good old boy, selfie fest, youtube channel- yeehaw

@levoGAMES

23 күн бұрын

demo ranch fell off. I remember microwaving random stuff and custom shotgun shells.

Works on absorbing 6 FPV drone hits and survive. Concealment of vulnerable parts

@goomyman23

22 күн бұрын

also prevents AI from hitting the tank, when a drone loses connection it will often resort to AI to hit the target. Its likely trained on tanks / vehicles, it wouldnt be trained on metal blobs. Having a unique look may help defend against AI training.

@itsQuilow

22 күн бұрын

@@goomyman23 This reminds me of americans testing AI automated detection systems. Soldiers were to get from point A to point B without being detected by AI. Some of them used MGS cardboard boxes tech and it worked 100% of the time

@benwinter2420

22 күн бұрын

But point missed . . under the shed infantry packed tight . . that get turned into pink mist

@user-qi2gq6ef3w

20 күн бұрын

​@@goomyman23it's a very short time problem for AI training

i'll save you all the time. the answer is 'because they work'

@davidford3115

23 күн бұрын

As an "assault shed" for tanking trenches? Sure. But for its primary purpose as an MBT? Hardly.

@robinx961

23 күн бұрын

@@davidford3115 yeah but tank-to-tank battles honestly have become scarce anyway. But yeah for a tank battle i dont see them viable in any imaginable way

@davidford3115

23 күн бұрын

@@robinx961 Massive Tank on tank battles are as Soviet Red Army wet dream. Even Heinz Guderian, the father of tank combat, never advocated for that instead arguing that EVERY tank needed an infantry squad escorting it.

@tristanyoung9673

23 күн бұрын

@davidford3115 yea and so what? Get with the 21st century old man. Tank on tank battles are less than 1% of tank engagements and artillery is still the biggest battlefield killer

@yarnickgoovaerts

23 күн бұрын

@@davidford3115you shouldn’t consider it as an MBT. It’s built on an MBT, but it’s turned into something different

Because it works, that's why

@thinkerly1

22 күн бұрын

Not much, Ivan. Effective against drones? Yes. Artillery? No.

@joebanuelos5614

22 күн бұрын

Maybe the threat from drones is greater than artillery. I think Ukraine has used a lot of the shells they had, and I don't think they produce their own

@yellowtunes2756

22 күн бұрын

​@@thinkerly1no tank can survive artillery shells. Wtf are you on about? Should it survive nukes or fab1500 too?

@user-uf7fs9kc6z

22 күн бұрын

​@@yellowtunes2756 yeah where Warthunder😂😂,, imagine a 25kg explosive hitting your Top tank in ballistic Trajectory,, you are The most confident yet Stupidd Person ive seen this day,, You earn my Respect🎉🎉

@user-uf7fs9kc6z

22 күн бұрын

​@@thinkerly1 That makes russian tank the best in the world😂😂,, What? Beat me man, even Your Abrahams and Rare Panther Died of drones,,

And here people were calling Marvin Heemeyer crazy for designing the Killdozer! Turns out he was years ahead of the curve.

Maus: you do not live with your own failure. And what does did brings you? Back to me.

Russia went as far back in time they started bringing medieval battering rams to the battlefield

@user-re3nl6oy9r

20 күн бұрын

And shovels 👍

The turtle tanks vs waves of drones before they reach and clear a trench line will be a great future RTS campaign mission.

@Zach2Wheels

23 күн бұрын

Simp

Because they force drones to target it keeping other vehicles safe. They also have mine rollers. Ergo they soak up more fire so more mobile vehicles can be safe. There. That's all.

@davidford3115

23 күн бұрын

Heinz Guderian, the father of tank warfare had ALWAYS advocated for tanks to be but a part of a larger combined force. In "Achtung Panzser", he said that every tank should be escorted at all times by an infantry squad.

Ahh the Blyatmoble

War isn't about looking cool.

Answer: Because they work 😮

Нет смысла рассуждать о долговременной эффективности каких-то технических решений. Это вечная борьба меча и щита, и развитие обоих направлений ускоряется в периоды активного противостояния - реалии заставляют. Черепахи эффективны в моменте, мы видели это на видео, а сколько не попало на видео, кто знает. Очень быстро найдут решение по атаке таких целей, и так же быстро найдут новые решения по защите.

@user-qi2gq6ef3w

20 күн бұрын

Самый адекватный и скорее всего самый правдивый комментарий, который можно написать в принципе. Понимаю, что он поверхностный и подойдёт к любой ситуации на войне, но тут прямо в точку.

Ahhh, yes. It's useless because it cannot survive a direct hit by a 5000 kiloton nuke.

If it looks stupid , but works - it ain’t stupid.

@smyers820gm

23 күн бұрын

No mudda fvka. Turtle tanks are stupid 😂😂😂😂😂

@humphreybumblecuck5151

23 күн бұрын

In fact it’s even more based

@SniperFallen06

23 күн бұрын

​@@smyers820gmlooks stupid but it works well

@smyers820gm

23 күн бұрын

@@SniperFallen06 it would not work against a well trained and supplied military

@SniperFallen06

23 күн бұрын

@@smyers820gm Most of the well trained and supplied ukr Army it's Gone already so this turtle it's making things easier

Because they are an effective breaching and mobile FPV drone jamming platform for infantry and other armored units.

The Turtle Tanks do resemble some of the tank destoyers and SPGs of World War 2, but they also bring to mind the combat vehicles designed by Da Vinci.

If it's dumb and it works it's not dumb.

If it works…. It works.

@filipbitala2624

12 күн бұрын

I am sure thats what they said about the tiger two

Fun fact: in russian you can use adjectives as nouns by themselves. It makes the text somewhat hard to translate, as evidenced by this comment section.

@worldoftancraft

20 күн бұрын

Oh, really? Guess what English has. You can use anything as you want.

@logon-oe6un

20 күн бұрын

@@worldoftancraft Yes, but "stupids" has a very different perceived level of intelligence, so there was a lot of comments using "the stupid ones" as a subject, which felt unnatural. The comments have since been deleted.

It looks like a Jawa Sandcrawler.

When Russia started digging trenches, people laughed, when Ukraine started digging trenches, people clapped

@juliusbenedico5329

21 күн бұрын

true

@phuchong5267

21 күн бұрын

True but trench tactics has been used in the Ukraine war before 2022

@goodintentions5189

21 күн бұрын

@@phuchong5267 When Russia started using dragon teeth they laughed, when Ukraine started using dragon teeth they clapped.

@waltonsimons9082

21 күн бұрын

@@goodintentions5189 Having 'the second best army' as was often touted, even be comparable to Ukraine is still a laugh all by itself mate. Thank god they don't have capable leaders, otherwise the west would have a real problem.

@user-re3nl6oy9r

21 күн бұрын

@@waltonsimons9082 I thought you were talking about the West for a second. I must be watching a different war.

No one can really occupy no mans land with firepower, so when the turtle tank does it, infantry can capture points.

@joseaca1010

20 күн бұрын

This isnt a battlefield game, bro

@Unknown-gi1uj

19 күн бұрын

@@joseaca1010 Actually it is a battle game, fact of the matter is humanity has weapons so powerful that it makes war redundant. Political bias in our education and governing systems leads to clashes by those who are the more serious. But its the gamers who play around on the battlefield that makes gain. The Western side, like in many battlegames is obsessed with K/D ratio, rather then whos winning.

@joseaca1010

19 күн бұрын

@@Unknown-gi1uj battle game? Bro, what an odd way to talk

@Unknown-gi1uj

19 күн бұрын

@@joseaca1010 I guess, but Chess masters have used their talents in war. Maybe you just take everything a bit too serious.

Russian Army adapting the *Stug life*

@lolasdm6959

23 күн бұрын

Stug life chose them

@merafirewing6591

23 күн бұрын

​@@lolasdm6959 it was calling to them and they welcomed it.

It has been said that the Russo-Ukrainian War is a redux of World War I. This adds to that because these Russian "Turtle Tanks" look hauntingly like the German Sturmpanzerwagen A7Vs!

They may look ridiculous but if they work then it doesn’t matter

@benwinter2420

22 күн бұрын

Invader talk

Turtle tanks are a short term event in a long conflict in response to the drone threat. They are just an extension of the cope cage concept, this war has shown that those tank adaptations provide protection for a limited period only. Given the pace of innovation by Ukraine and its allies turtle tanks are halfway through their Andy Warhol moment and will just end up being significant for a short period at the midpoint of this war.

@CountetPK

22 күн бұрын

темпы инноваций у Украины нулевые

@yihchiehseeto225

22 күн бұрын

To create a “stand off” distance, so the AP mortar just punctured the shielded turtle surface.

@tullyDT

22 күн бұрын

@@CountetPK Благодаря их нововведениям Украина практически сократила российский Черноморский флот до нуля, несмотря на отсутствие военно-морского флота. Лучшее, чего может добиться российская инновация, это прилепить садовый сарай на крышу танка. 🤣

@CountetPK

22 күн бұрын

@@tullyDT "их" кроме иностранных беспилотных дронов что-то будет? Мега инновация. Гордиться подобным, это как гордиться наличием фпв дронов, просто клоунада, а не инновации. Инновации мы видим на укреплениях Харьковского направления.

@D64nz

22 күн бұрын

​@@tullyDTtell that to the factories, warehouses, and Power plants of Ukraine who suffer missile attacks every night from the Black Sea fleet. 😊

instead of hitting it top down, a mobility kill might be a better option since the tracks were more exposed than the hull in these turtle modifications.

A lot of the "turtles" i see in videos are older t60's series which are considerably less survivable than an upgraded t72 or newer. Usually they are going for more direct attacks on turtles and more mobility kills for t72, too many videos of drones dropping grenades into abandoned 72-80-90's. Spaced armor is a good way of turning an obsolete system into a functional one.

@davidford3115

23 күн бұрын

Perun calls them "assault sheds".

Turtle tanks flourished in the temporary window when Ukraine was dry of artillery and ATGM which they are now getting again and things are resetting back to the pointless grind

@cuoresportivo155

22 күн бұрын

The grind isn't pointless, one resource Ukraine can't get from the west is men. And if they get men from their population, production will suffer. Sure, women can replace men in the workforce, but a lot of them have left Ukraine aswell. Without men, you can't defend (let alone attack) efficiently. It's a matter of time really.

@worldoftancraft

20 күн бұрын

Literally, where are they more vulnerable against ATGM than a classical tank? You make no sense here.

@knightlypoleaxe2501

9 күн бұрын

Ukraine does not have the artillery you think they do, and turtle tanks are even more protected from ATGMs due to standoff distance.

I am old enough to remember how two years ago, everyone was saying that tanks where now obsolete. Yet, now they are evolving to meet the newer threats.

@benrodir2

22 күн бұрын

"meet new threats" literally hundreds of videos of them lying dead in ditches, but I guess you did say meeting newer threats not surviving them rofl

@nunya3163

22 күн бұрын

@@benrodir2 Apparently you missed the part in the video, where he states that they are working, and helping the Russians to take new ground. Every weapon system is going to take losses, even the M1 has.

@quoccuongtran724

17 күн бұрын

@@benrodir2 literally millions of scissors have been broken by rocks in any past rock-paper-scissors game, yet that doesn't discourage people from whipping out scissors, because there are still papers to cut the thing with tanks is the same, its a game of rock-paper-scissors where tanks help with frontline breakthrough, infantry direct-fire-support and other stuffs, and tanks also get pounded by drones, artillery & ATGMs

I mean it's pretty simple. Put more distance and material between you and any FPV drones coming in from the majority of directions

Battering rams, shovels and chips from Washing machines. The Russians are unstoppable 😂

I wonder if Russia will show its military advancements in the next military parade in Moscow.

I have to admire Russia in trying to adapt, especially given that this is a clear signal to me that they are hurting when it comes to developing a more 'elegant' anti-UAV system or TTPs.

@MauiWowie51

23 күн бұрын

when in history has russia ever gone for the "elegant" solution vs the cheap and easily producible one?

@DaniEles-rc7ij

23 күн бұрын

@@MauiWowie51 in the movies.

@-Zardoz-

23 күн бұрын

It’s good that Ukraine is adapting to the shortage of soldiers by forcing elderly men and convicts to the fronts…..

@ShmuckCanuck

23 күн бұрын

@@-Zardoz- there not doing either of those things Ukraines max age for conscripts is 38 Russias is 60 You can’t enlist in the ukranian army with a criminal record Russia literally emptied out its prisoners of violent offenders and famously sent tens of thousands of people from maximum security prisoners to the front lines in Ukraine

@m16-a2

21 күн бұрын

@@ShmuckCanuck Not true, ukraine have been recruiting criminals

Great video. I really enjoyed watching and always look forward to new videos.

they work in specific situations and probably for limited time... but during that limited time and purpose they do work.

@alex-fs5bl

10 күн бұрын

They do not work...

@Fesko-ly1wr

10 күн бұрын

​@@alex-fs5blthey do Look up what its actual purpose

The real question is 6 weeks in how is it that every armed forces hasn't ditched their equipment for superior Russian treaded garden sheds.

@mw9297

22 күн бұрын

There’s an Abrams with a cope cage on it or isreal putting them on their Markava tanks

@Jamesthechef0311

22 күн бұрын

Applying just a quarter inch of steel 18 in away from the tanks hole will stop the mean threat for most anti-tank missiles. This isn't about talking shit this is completely functional

@viktoriyaserebryakov2755

21 күн бұрын

@@mw9297 It's fine when the West does it.

@user-qi2gq6ef3w

20 күн бұрын

​@@Jamesthechef0311I highly doubt it would save tank from a tandem anti-tank munition like tow. But it definitely helps to stop more simple rockets like PG-7 that FPV drones are often carrying.

after all this years, now i know how StarWars AT-AT Walker ( The All Terrain Armored Transport) got its design from!!!

A7V: I'm back.

War thunder should make a special competition to win a turtle tank it would become the most sort after tank in the game

@MauiWowie51

23 күн бұрын

sought.

@jonathon5411

23 күн бұрын

​@@MauiWowie51twank you

@Smi3tankoweCjastko

23 күн бұрын

they wont do it because theyre ruzzian patriots

I call the one with slug/sheet armor and 2 rolls in front "The King Turtle"

Practically they are reinventing the "Sturmgeschütz" (Assault Tank) from the 2. WW.

THE BLYAT MOBILE LOL

@EyFmS

19 күн бұрын

"Holy bottle of Vodka Blyatman!! An FPV Drone just disabled our tracks, we've become a turtle shack now!!".

@tomaszstarling1343

19 күн бұрын

@@EyFmS HA HA HA HA

@tomaszstarling1343

6 күн бұрын

@@EyFmS So Good Ha Ha

I appreciate that you keep calling for peace at the end of the videos. Keep it up!

funny how all the "experts" are consistently wrong about this. 1 drone to take out a tank. 40-50 drones to take out a turtle tank.... pretty easy math.

@minhducnguyen9276

23 күн бұрын

They are like the point man entering the building with the shield. The point man is not immune to bullets but his increased survivability allows him to spot ambushing enemies for the men following.

@crodude9847

23 күн бұрын

You can track a turtle tank with a single drone Idk what are you on about

@MauiWowie51

23 күн бұрын

@@crodude9847 "can do it" and "can easily do it" are two different things. From Ukraine themselves it takes on average ~40 or so drones to take out a turtle tank.

@crodude9847

23 күн бұрын

@@MauiWowie51 on average you pull out 40 made up numbers from your ass on a hourly basis This statement has the same credibility as your made up number lmao

@crodude9847

23 күн бұрын

@@MauiWowie51 the 40 number is just as factual as flying pigs lmao

its allways stooopid when RUS does it😂😂😂... 2 months latter Israel and others start to use it😂😂

@Jay-vt1mw

23 күн бұрын

why would israel use it? it literally stops your tank turret turning imagine that in an urban environment

@HATCH5T

23 күн бұрын

​@@Jay-vt1mw they started using cope cages if the hamas war goes on, who knows 😂

@Jay-vt1mw

23 күн бұрын

@@HATCH5T cope cages don't stop the turret turning

@voidtempering8700

23 күн бұрын

​@@HATCH5TThe warfare in Ukraine, and the use for the Turtle tanks is the exact opposite of the war Israel is fighting.

@HATCH5T

23 күн бұрын

@@voidtempering8700 Well people said that about the cope cages, hell they made fun of it and now India and Israel have started employing it

Blyatmobile.

@Hsecrpntr

23 күн бұрын

Assault shed

@Artsyca

23 күн бұрын

To the Blyat!mobile!!

15:30 - on the subject of the Turtle-Tank (Blayt Mobile) jammers - most of them seem to have a requirement of a fair amount of electricity - more than is apparently available from the tank’s existing systems - so they’ve been adding small generators under the shed’s “protection” - but that introduces a long cable, and a number of new vulnerabilities.

@secondlook

23 күн бұрын

Thanks!

What looks like a tank is actually a mine clearing vehicle that clears passages through minefields. He doesn't even need to fire. And these videos always show only part of the process or simply the defeat of such a tactic. Statistically, this gives rise to what is known as “survivor bias,” which occurs when conclusions are drawn only from a portion of the sample.

@filipbitala2624

12 күн бұрын

Thats not what survivor bias means

If it looks stupid but it works then its not stupid.

@Nobleheart111

21 күн бұрын

And if it doesn’t work, then it is stupid.

So the next evolution in asymmetrical drone tech is small armor-piercing warheads? Necessity invokes ingenuity 🤷🏻‍♂️

If it works it is not stupid.

It all looks like something out of Mad Max.

What's wrong Binkov they not turtley enough for your turtle club

@Freddy184YouTube

16 күн бұрын

Bot

One thing I don't understand is that it's said that these tanks are used to lead a column to clear mines and protect itself against drones, in exchange for limited combat capabilities. But even if the lead tank is protected, what is stopping the drones from attacking the following tanks that don't have this makeshift armor on them? I know you mentioned the jammers, but sounded like they weren't particularly effective. If the tanks that are actually dangerous is taken out, then what good does the turtle tank do alone? also, unrelated question, but can anyone tell me why it seems like there is no kind of air combat in this war? I can't recall ever seeing any videos or jets, helicopters or even conventional UCAV's for that matter, maybe only one or two early in the war.

@ivanstepanovic1327

23 күн бұрын

Well, the first tank in the column is usually the one that takes the most enemy fire. So, once this thing (that attracts a lot of attention anyway) shows up, everything is pointed in its direction. Also, it is very likely that it is not the only vehicle with jammers; some others in the column behind it are likely to have it, too. No air combat... Well, who? Ukrainians are in deep you-know-what any time they take off. Ground and or radars mean they have very little chance of not being detected. Then, you have all sorts of air defense, different ranges. From long range (S-300/400) through medium (Buk) to short (Tor) and so on. Going through all that is suicide. Then add Russian long range air-to-air missiles (MiG-31 with R-37M for instance)... They stand no chance. So they relied on low level flying and sudden attacks, but still paid the price. On the other hand, Russians didn't achieve full air superiority thanks to Ukrainian air defense, occasionally strenghtened with Patriot. And one more thing - doctrine. Their air power is there to support ground operations. So they use glide bombs, making it needless to even enter Ukrainian defense...

@WynnofThule

23 күн бұрын

The airspace on both sides is reasonably well protected and neither really has the capability to intrude into each other's airspace There has been more air to air action in the war than you appear to have seen, but not that much more

@mrpocock

23 күн бұрын

The idea is that trailing tanks are protected by ewar on the turtle tank. So that all works brilliantly against threats that can be neutralised by that ewar. It's useless against everything else. Turtle tanks don't help against artillery, for example, or against following vehicles driving over mines, or anti-tank rockets. They are an artifact of a weird period where virtually all Russian losses were due to drones. Against a mixed threat, they're a liability.

@Leelan1250

23 күн бұрын

They have jammers on the turtle tank.

@MrFritzthecatfish

23 күн бұрын

What you need to understand is that this war is unlike any other war before, i.e. no fog of war. each side can see everything, there are practically no surprises.

The only reason the Turtle tanks worked was Ukraine didn’t have HIMARS munition due to America stalling funding, once the munition turned up the Turtle’s ended up as soup

Battering Ram was my first thought as well. It helped that the 1st one looked straight out of Age of Empires. Basically a evolution of the cope cage.

Who would have thought that there would be turretless main battle tanks again? However, the Swedes produced the last turretless main battle tank with the Stridsvagn 103.

Of course, remote mine laying is another countermeasure. If the column is spotted then the road ahead can be mined with mines including delay. The roller hits, activates, tank moves above, tank destroyed.

The same reason Ukraine is adopting it, its a good strategy.

it simply works for now. And is cheap too, so why not

@thenextgeneration9030

11 күн бұрын

thank you FirstNameLastNameNumbers. 100 rubles have been deposited into your bank account

@francescozambaldi8212

11 күн бұрын

@@thenextgeneration9030 thanks but i need more than 10 euros bro. You kids never learn. Just botting all day

@alex-fs5bl

10 күн бұрын

When did one of them "work"?

@francescozambaldi8212

10 күн бұрын

@@alex-fs5bl there are many videos showing a turtle tank in front of a couple of not armored ones to demine and are pretty successful. This doesnt mean they will be succesfull in the future but if its cheap and helps with at least some offensives why not

People saying it doesnt work has never seen the Free Wifi APC in the Battle of Marawi in the Philippines

The question is why the US hasn't provided Ukraine with their own turtle tanks.

@nobodyherepal3292

14 күн бұрын

Because we actually care about their lives?

@BigBruh47

14 күн бұрын

​@@nobodyherepal3292 hahahahahah usa cares about lifes

@nobodyherepal3292

14 күн бұрын

@@BigBruh47 if we didn’t, we wouldn’t be helping the Ukrainians defend themselves

@kasauerkrautimgulasch

13 күн бұрын

​@@BigBruh47 An important point in the development of Western tanks is the survival of the crew if the tank is destroyed. This is no different with US tanks. Just because they don't treat parts of their people well doesn't say anything about their military technology, which isn't bad for the soldiers, unlike Russian material. You don't know what you're talking about and you're making a fool of yourself...

@5.45x39_

13 күн бұрын

@@nobodyherepal3292 if you did care about Ukranian lives you wouldnt overthrow legitimately elected president and replace it with far-right organisations and provoke Russia into levelling the country to the ground

It really only makes sense in light of Ukraine’s reliance on FPV drones.

@wwlb4970

22 күн бұрын

Yeah, it's a thing that often happens in engineering contest: you design things to compete versus a certain problem, completely forgetting there are another threats and needs. Like in this case: it can withstand 2 drones instead of 0, but completely useless against: tanks, atgms, automatic cannons, mines; cannot shoot, can drive mostly straight, cannot see anything and does so mediocrily.

Turtle tanks + soldiers armed with shovels = deadly combination

@prokremelskidezolati1426

23 күн бұрын

looooooooooool

It just works. People were laughing at cope cages. Now everyone is using cope cages.

@SinkingShips1998

11 күн бұрын

Still laughing

@alex-fs5bl

10 күн бұрын

Cope cages, turtle tanks, T14's, Su57... none of them work.

@StanislavG.

7 күн бұрын

Lol, no it's not. It's literally built from random garbage by random samodelkins in the field out of desperation. Poor bastards. If you take russian army's approach as a whole, it's like -We tried nothing and already ran out of ideas

The turtle tanks weld metal sheets or siding above the tank leaving only a narrow open front. The goal of this shed like structure is to stop an FPV drone from making a direct strike on the engine, tracks or turret that would disable the tank or in some cases cause a chain reaction with the tanks own ammunition.

It's rather obvious to anyone who understands how and explosive shape charge with a molten copper projectile works. In just a few inches of air that molten copper will cool enough to not penetrate the next layer of armor. You get that cheap charge too detonate outside of the actual tank and 6 or 12 in man there's no penetrating power anymore. Oh am I saying too much again

@terjeoseberg990

22 күн бұрын

These turtle tanks are only useful against drones and possibly Javelins. Artillery will go right through them. During Ukraine’s artillery shortage they gave Russia an advantage. Now that Ukraine has started receiving more artillery, it’s pointless.

@JayJay-xy5ch

22 күн бұрын

​@@terjeoseberg990lol, pointless? Even if Ukraine has not shortage at all, the fact that they can't pushback Russians out of their territory is not a good signal. Y'all western people are full of excuses.

@TukihaMaza

22 күн бұрын

@@terjeoseberg990 good luck hitting a moving target with arty.

@terjeoseberg990

22 күн бұрын

@@TukihaMaza, Ukrainians have been hitting Russian tanks with artillery this entire war. Russians, on the other hand, have bad aim and inferior quality artillery.

@terjeoseberg990

22 күн бұрын

@@TukihaMaza, Ukrainians have been hitting moving Russian tanks with artillery since Putin started this war.

they work because people underestimate it

@Jamesthechef0311

22 күн бұрын

No it's not underestimating it's creating barriers between the explosive shape charge and the internal components

@terjeoseberg990

22 күн бұрын

@@Jamesthechef0311, These turtle tanks are only useful against drones and possibly Javelins. Artillery will go right through them. During Ukraine’s artillery shortage they gave Russia an advantage. Now that Ukraine has started receiving more artillery, it’s pointless.

@JayJay-xy5ch

22 күн бұрын

​@@terjeoseberg990​​@terjeoseberg990 lol, pointless? Even if Ukraine has not shortage at all, the fact that they can't pushback Russians out of their territory is not a good signal. Y'all western people are full of excuses.

@JayJay-xy5ch

22 күн бұрын

​@@terjeoseberg990​​@terjeoseberg990 lol, pointless? Even if Ukraine has not shortage at all, the fact that they can't pushback Russians out of their territory is not a good signal. Y'all western people are full of excuses.

@waltonsimons9082

21 күн бұрын

@@JayJay-xy5ch "Even if Ukraine has not shortage at all, the fact that they can't pushback Russians" They have some pretty big shortages. Hell, western countries have mostly been giving 'old stock' 1980's tier weapons to Ukraine, and Russia still can't beat them? That's really not a good sign for Russia. But i guess, y'all Z people are always full of excuses.

Reminds me of the wooden clad AFVs of the Philippine Army during the Battle of Marawi in 2017

Shaped charge jet gets hugely dispersed after a certain distance, especially if not precision machined liner or some random stuff in between. That chart is extremely optimistic, likely measured in lab conditions. So turtle tank makes a lot of sense, in that aspect.

They work spectacularly, so why wouldn't Russia keep using them?

@Zack_Wester

23 күн бұрын

Wild guess to heavy and cumbersone to put on back in the Factory plus it probably makes the maintenance clock spin like a kid whit a credit card and no limit. so you first ship the tank as close to the front where you need it. put the armour on (this takes time) hope the front line workshop does not get spotted and blown up by artillery (high chance) especially if you do the mistake of putting more then 1 tank there. Drive the armour to the battle and join the next offensive. also hope that the engineer that supposed to put the armour on did not pocket all the wielder gas and left before you got there or the logistic officer or stockpile chief. so you might get the tank the the workshop and go okey put the Turtle cage armour on and then nothing happen. because the engineer is not there, the tools to wield are not there, the cage itself is not there. a new engine to pull that darn thing for longer then 5 min is not there.

Land drone in front of tank. The new configuration to aim the charge should also be a matter for common sense.

Because theyre effective

The point of the turtle tanks was that while Mike Johnson was refusing to allow a vote on aid for Ukraine, Ukraine was running extremely low on artillery shells and had to rely on drones to take out tanks The shells for the Czech Shell Initiative should start arriving next month and aid for the U.S. is flowing again The turtle tanks will be less effective now that they are getting hit by artillery instead of just small drones

@MauiWowie51

23 күн бұрын

dang it mike johnson!

@fakecubed

23 күн бұрын

Ukraine should be paying us if they want our stuff.

Never thought I would see barns or warhouses on the battlefield.

It's a siege tank that's why it looks like it's from 40k

they do say _"necessity is the mother of invention"_ and sure, it may not "look" good but if its doing the job it was intended to do, successfully, what more can you ask for ? lol

@BenersantheBread

5 күн бұрын

The problem isn't that it doesn't "look good"; it's that it's a blind, death trap.

Because they work?

@andyo8141

23 күн бұрын

Against cheap fpv drones they work. Unfortunately for turtle tanks Ukraine just received more than two thousand new Javelins.

@rjald4910

23 күн бұрын

You sound so smug, but in 99% of cases you would just be blatantly wrong and you will be wrong the moment Ukrainian or Russia is in a different position to fight the war. For example, why did the Americans put cement, logs, etc. on the Sherman armor? Not because it was the little bit, that would stop the German anti tank guns. But because the crew felt safer doing so. Same with cope cages pre drone warfare. Rpg-7 doesn't care about some 5mil metal rods, it can punish through 900 mil steel. Same with most if not all anti tank weapons. A javelin doesn't care about no cope cage.

@berserkasaurusrex4233

23 күн бұрын

@@rjald4910 The "cope cages" were all on tanks from Syria, that were using them to stop drone attacks there. They are effective, obviously, hence why everyone is putting them on now. Doesn't matter about the "99% of cases", all that matters is this case, this reality. You fight the war you are in, not the hypothetic war of tomorrow or yesterday. Javelins have been surprisingly unreliable in this war, they seem to be mostly saved for taking shots at helicopters, and NLAWs saved for the tanks. Javelins might be too complicated to use effectively without more training than Ukraine wants to bother with.

@rjald4910

23 күн бұрын

@@berserkasaurusrex4233 I wouldn't call an overall success rate of 75% ineffective. Alone in 2022 380 javelins were used and 270 tanks destroyed. And this is only the reported number.

@andyo8141

23 күн бұрын

@@berserkasaurusrex4233 Any evidence to support your claim that Javelins are unreliable? All I've seen is video after video of Javalins popping the turrets off of Russian tanks. Ukraine just got another batch of 2240x Javelins as part of the latest US aid.

Assault sheds Continuing Adventure

The turtle tank shed should also, at least in theory, stop many types of cluster munitions as well. Individual submunitions, like DPICM, are frequently even less powerful than FPV warheads. Sure, there are smart cluster munitions that are more powerful (like BAT, BONUS and more), but these are also more expensive and in limited supply.

@milankopper589

22 күн бұрын

The plates are so weak that even kinetic power alone of submunition would penetrate that.

@jannegrey593

22 күн бұрын

submunitions of 155mm DPICM is specifically designed to punch through thin sheet of metal. Whether it's enough - that I'm not sure, since some of those tanks would likely be safe from such submunitions. But only because they have additional layer of slat armor.

They should just add a hedgehog like spikes made out of fishing poles. I per sq foot. They will bend and whip around while moving hitting the drones

The "tank destroyers" shown are actually "assault tanks", and not even really tanks. They are infantry fire support vehicles, and not intended to do the primary mission of tanks, exploiting breakthroughs.