I'd say the 5th, accepting failure is the most important. Higher difficulties are amazingly fun, but there are times when your party almost irreparably (save for a carry dwarf saving the day) gets screwed by the game director; horde, binding specials and elites at the worst place and worst time. This is the time when you should just sigh, shrug and try again because it wasnt that anyone in your team didnt do well, its something that happens. Eventually youll get the hang of it and learn V2 is in fact a rythim game and your brain will automatically make you turn 180 degrees and pop the leech in the head as soon as you hear the fat bastard teleport

@hegemon3

2 жыл бұрын

Nah, everyone can do it. We need more science like those first 3 tips, not shitty motivational speech like 4th and 5th tips.

@Setnja92

2 жыл бұрын

There are very few spots, where the game just slaps you and wipes your team. If all four players: 1) know, how to build (or recognise and copy) and use all around build or at least how to use rightly their specific builds, 2) know what targets to mark and to prioritise, 3) let other team member deal with certain situations (do not step infront of Sienna or flame cannon during the swarm, or bounty hunter during monster encounter ever or do not cry because of ff) and rather cover the other paths with which enemies can come, 4) spread with monster on scene and stick together when you hear specials, 5) know where to fight which enemy (ledges, corners, open space, doors, ...), 6) grab and cary, if not using, the consumables, they can be given to players with "sharing perks" (later). Then the game can be so easy and nice even on "pub qp" legend 9/10 times. You could say in short: Just know your build, for what is bad and for what is good. Use your brain and inventory slots ...

@Z3ZP

Жыл бұрын

@@Setnja92pub qp never has what you just explained there, not even on cata. Its a miracle if 3 people are on the same page in qp.

@Setnja92

Жыл бұрын

@@Z3ZP No one is perfect, including me or you, everyone has room for improvement. I am comfortly sitting on the Legend (because it's most fun diff to me, combat flows nicely) so i can't speak for Cata. But there are quite capable palyers in qp. Surprisingly even new players below lvl 35. Usually one or two of them can do majority of these tasks. The biggest problem is 5) bad place for fight, the most common are 2) marking and 6) carry. But i've been lucky to join some really crazy teams in qp and every missions with them was smoot like the android's butt. If you do majority of these tasks the rest is experiences and bit of skill or reflexes.

@Z3ZP

Жыл бұрын

@@Setnja92 But individually good players ≠ good teamwork. I see really good players on both cata and legend, but the problem is most often in teamplay, not because they’d be bad, but just because they have a different idea than the others.

I’m gonna try to use this to jump from veteran to champion lol

@erik34350

2 жыл бұрын

The jump from veteran to champion isn't much, just don't get hit by stormvermin overheads or chaos knights (ESPECIALLY chaos knights' overhead attacks) and you can outheal most damage with temporary health generation provided you aren't getting hit constantly. Learn how to dodge specials, hook rat, gutter runner and life leech can all be dodged if you dodge to the side (DO NOT DODGE BACKWARDS VS ANY OF THESE). And if you grab monster attention, kite it and try your best to dodge the hits (dodge backwards).

Another important reason worth mentioning to run block cost reduction in higher difficulties is because enemies' attacks cost way more stamina to block in legend and cataclysm.

@thefrenchbastard1646

2 жыл бұрын

but guard break are increadibly lenient it really shudn't be the causse of your death

@axiosespada7651

2 жыл бұрын

Unless getting pounded by a group of storm vermin + a horde on cataclysm as iron breaker trying to revive the elf that went down to that one random slaverat that managed to get behind the group. While I as the ironbreaker was controlling the horde +patrol. when your ult is almost used up after using it to control the horde and patrol. BCR is a lifesaver. Bcr and stamina recovery is very important for frontline's/tanky medics.

@sbraypaynt

2 жыл бұрын

The only time I'd choose stamina over 60% BCR is if I'm playing shade with duel daggers. Pushing to control a horde with those weapons is important.

Another tip that I find useful is to not panic and rush to kill specials all the time. Move around a corner and the gunner cannot get you; a storm can sometimes even be in your advantage if you stumbled upon a Stormvermin patrol, etc. Just assess the situation and ask yourself what the immediate threat is. Assassins and hook rats are usually the ones that can end the game quickly, but the others can often be dealt with in a calm and planned manner.

@MrKOLCOO

10 ай бұрын

Yeah thats good and nice advice but 19/20 times you will get paired ( if you don play with friends) with some try hard rushers. That just trying to rush the map and don't even bother with reviving or rescuing if they don't need to.

Another tip I would add is Don't overcommit to killing Elites/Specials/Bosses. In a controlled setting, your team will be able to suppress specials and hold down elites no problem. It's when you can't successfully do this due to sheer numbers, Armor, HP, Bosses, etc. Is when you have to start picking your battles. By this I simply mean that repositioning during a fight of any kind is more important than trying to go for a sacrificial play where you go all in. Stalling is a key tactic I see for some team comps since they're unable to deal with certain groups of enemies, EG: Melee focused team with little to no range, Tanky team but lack of DPS/Burst, Or a Boss Killer Comp but poor wave clear/no frontliners. I watched Royale w/ Cheese's latest video and I commented on how his team took to kiting and repositioning constantly in order to wear out the hordes and he responded that his comp lacked elite killing power which I did indeed see.

thank you for this. having recently gotten back into this game, I have struggled jumping from champ to legend, while quick there was some great info here. most important of which is how big of a jump it is, now I can relax and feel less terrible for struggling.

@DoctorNedev

2 жыл бұрын

You can do it mate. Just take your time and enjoy the game :) (legend player here- cata is too difficult for irregular player such as me).

@daggumnametaken

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoctorNedev I have a batch of legend under my belt, but I can't use anywhere near as many classes as I used to. Did Skittergate last night though so that felt awesome.

@daggumnametaken

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoctorNedev Quick update, today I was doing Cataclysm maps. You were right. Once I got red jewelry it was a game changer. Now I'm just focused on getting reds of the weapons I like. I just can't decide which character to get armed first.

#1 don't live in Australia #2 don't play on xbox #3 don't quickplay #4 see #1 #5 I really can't stress how important #1 is

Yeah I have a couple hundred legend runs and a few cata clears and I still have no idea which stagger talents complement which weapons

@PlatypodesReges

2 жыл бұрын

It's almost always best to take Smiter or Assassin if they're available. They have by far the best damage outputs which is all that's important outside of very fringe cases.

@Managarm1999

2 жыл бұрын

just use the ,,Armory,, Workshop Mod, there u can see how much stagger and Cleave your weapon does and so u can decide if u take temp health through Slaying enemys,Hitting Multiple Enemys or Stagger Multiple Enemys

I feel that the jump from champion to legend was way bigger than the jump from legend to cata. A good rule of thumb i used is to look at how much damage i took in a game, i started to transition to legend when i could get champion runs with less than 200 damage taken fairly reliable. The main difference between champ and legend for me was positioning and dodging, on legend you want to be somewhat tactical as to where to fight a horde or monster and ideally you want to dance around a horde or lock a monster by baiting overheads and dodging backwards before running back in and repeating the process. Cata really wasn't that much more difficult, you still want to prioritise not getting hit but you have to learn to deal with more mixed hordes and tune your builds accordingly.

I do duo cata and solo stuff all the time and this video definitely helped, I didn’t realize that block cost mattered so much

I miss the ritual. Damn. Hope they incorporate it into the game somehow in the end. Really was a great event.

Damn the gameplay really makes me miss Geheimisnact

@jtcLIVE

2 жыл бұрын

They need to put it in the weekly rotation, its so fucking good

@thehazellator

2 жыл бұрын

Is this why their eyes are green?

@rumbling9879

2 жыл бұрын

@@thehazellator The collectible skulls buff all the enemies and they get the green glow The buffs are very significant and it’s a lot of fun

The description of breakpoints feels imprecise - it should be the utilisation of any damage that results in killing an enemy type faster by reducing the number of attacks to kill it.

great work on getting this Video on the Vermintide 2 launcher!!!

wow, this is super useful. thank u so much!

Yo I just got into Vermintide because of the sale and this video helps a lot with moving out of Champion. Ty and best of luck out on the hunt everyone

even tho I already know all of that, I still enjoy clicking on new jtc videos *widepeepohappy*

Another very important don't rush to higher difficulty, i see people 10 lvl into champion, i only stepped there when inh hit 35 with a character

I just started playing Legendary, and it has been a learning curve, and ive struggled lol, but i think im slowly getting better

Nice bro thanks you should make a vid about going to champion. With all the new players its surprisingly hard to complete runs right now

There’s nothing wrong with learning with some of the best players Mabie I’ll get the courage too

I'm struggling at the moment transitioning to Cata. I'm playing solo with bots and while I've done a few maps on Cata there are some I just can't do. I'm tedious about playing online with random players because I want to be more consistent and comfortable playing Cata first, it's also annoying that all my friends that play the game aren't particularly good at it. It's definitely the biggest jump in difficulty I've found.

This was a really helpful video unlike the other one I watched telling people to kick new/low level playerz.

Hey there, do you have a video about #1? I am playing on legend and I am doing quite well there. But I have a huge problem with generating as much temp-health as you in your videos. Some guidance would be greatly appreciated

I’m gonna be doing way more of #5 soon.

Well not totally related i guess but do you know if does Boon of Shallya trait affects The pale queen's choosing for Sister of the thorn?

Yup, I only play on vet or recruit because I find it more enjoyable. Never tried champion or legend before and now I’m at the point that I want those cosmetics BADLY so I’m skipping champ and went straight to legend. Trial by fire does no justice to the slaughter that followed. The amount of times a slave rat with a pointy stick sneaks up behind me and pokes me in the spine one tapping my foot Knight in full fucking plate was unbelievable. Legend is rough man. Not fun, not fun at all. But I’ll be damned if im not gonna get those damn cosmetics!

I’m proud to say legends feels like champion and cataclysm feels like legends.

I like these basic tips. And i hope, they will get a lot of views! Because it is pain these days to do public quick play. It is nice that new DLCs and updates atracts new players, but ffs, finishing only 1 of 6 games with full books on legend difficulty is terrible. I am really loosing my patience and passion for the game with a lot of new guys playing badly on legend.

@jtcLIVE

2 жыл бұрын

if you're tired of dealing with randos you can always join my discord (or anyone else's really) to find other people to play with!

@Setnja92

2 жыл бұрын

@@jtcLIVE I will think about it for sure. Thanks for invite and idea.

Hm, think the video would've been better if you talked about tactical tips instead of the technical side of it. Like understanding how push needs to be utilized vs the horde, managing mixed in elites, understanding where in the team you should be positioned, using resources more liberally etc. Still, I guess knowing about talent synergy, running block cost and all that is useful. Kinda copped out on the 4th and 5th tips though.

How do the difficulties compare to vermintide 1? Just started and my lil group i have beat up to Cata on V1 on some missions, but I have no way of knowing how hard cata in this is compared to that!

cataclysm seems fine for me since i have good teammates and we improve our skills through many runs

can someone explain tip 1 more would help a lot. does it have to do with cleave attacks or no cleave attacks?

does anyone know what is that magic circle pattern on the floor at 58s into the video?

Cata seems like legend to me. I don't see any big diff. The biggest diff is that I have a harder time finding a party. Especially when they fall once and they insta leave when we can revive them and 3 if us are up

I came back after playing in 2019 and I feel like people are better overall? I struggled with Legend along with the teammates I was matched with often but nowadays everyone is fighting for kills since its so easy.

I'd say that no. 5 is the most important rule! I see so many players that quit and leave at the very first sign of failure. It's almost like they're so used to being carried by others that when they're forced to pull their own weight they fold. There is so much in Cataclysm that can screw you up completely, and you're often in situations that even the best player cannot get themselves out of. Failing is just a part of the experience!

I skipped champ and went straight to legend that was fun lol

I’m gonna rely on the best players champion is too toxic btw cause when it comes time to legend people rage quit the game I rather do legend with the best players so I get the feel too

My greatest advice is to just get in there champ! Only Legend will prepare you for Legend, only Cata will prepare you for Cata. Get in there and slay some rats!

I wish more people would do #5 most lol, I don't care how good you are, if you ran off and got specialized and snowballed a wipe, don't shit on the rest.

Accept Failure.. there is no failure.. if i go Down, i die like a warrior poet. I give them an end, they'l remember. Exhapt some combination of brutal shit is happening. With sepiacls and stuff. But well.. STILL DIED FIGHTIIIIING! march into the afterlife. Brrr brr brr

Huh Moopshark, i was steam friends with this guy since vermintide 1. Is he a vermintide celebrity now?

That block cost reduction point was so braindead. Fatshark must have forgot to send me the memmo about 60% block cost reduction allowing me to push 6 times in row. Oh wait it doesn't.

The amount of people playing CW legend/cata that take for example crit power or block angle over block cost reduction is astonishing and you cant reason with them...

@scientist368

2 жыл бұрын

Well I got bored at trying to get it after 50 rerolls. I mostly want to get rid of block angle but it's always one if the 2

@lizabeth529

Жыл бұрын

@@scientist368 no on the map

Any tips on playing in 200 ping? 😭

and the more important: TEAM PLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY, PLAY WITH UR TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I really dont find block cost all that helpfull compared to endurance to spam more pushes

@jeremytan739

2 жыл бұрын

Bcr also helps with reviving more than extra stamina shields

@secretlythreeducksinamansu3546

2 жыл бұрын

Likewise. I don't really get it when people talk about BCR being the most important thing at all, I play cata and almost never run out of block.

Is it normal that in big hordes that your fps drop to around 40~? It’s kinda annoying trying to move up in difficulty when the game doesn‘t run smooth in the important moments. Is there for example an setting that helps stabilize fps in hordes?

@Combine96

2 жыл бұрын

Yea, gotta play on potato settings. Make sure you have no windows open in the steam overlay (chats, friends list) for some reason that eats FPS

i hate failing/dying so that rule doesn't help with me

So would the next step in difficulty be to phase block cost reduction out of your builds? It's very powerful but people tend to have a hard time adjusting to Chaos Wastes when they suddenly dont have it.

@jeremytan739

2 жыл бұрын

I would say thats a separate issue entirely, no reason not to use the optimal build for one game mode just because you can’t use the same for another game mode

@Raelyn

2 жыл бұрын

Chaos Waste is just entirely different. At the beginning you are weaker than your regular campaign build, but by the end you should be nearly double as strong with potentially game breaking boons. You could make the game harder for yourself without block cost reduction if you like, but what would be the point in that?

Never been first.... It's a nice feeling ngl 😁

Not that much a difference between Cata and legendary. Honestly I think it is normal diff.

did u know

I didn't even have a Champion stage when I played, so I can't really tell how the leap woulda been. Just went from Veteran to Legend. Suppose I should be mildly worried about the leap to Cata though

run? 😂

Tip 6: Dont be the Elf with natural bond

@Avoozl

2 жыл бұрын

"Don't be the elf" is enough. Natural bond is fine as it is.

@scientist368

2 жыл бұрын

I play Waystalker with natural bond and I am always the one that makes it through. You are just bitter because when your elfs go down you can't continue as 3 I guess

Champion is way to easy. Legend is way to hard :(

#6: Pray for no Slayer Bardins to join your game.

@Managarm1999

2 жыл бұрын

if he wields 2x1h weapons u are right but with 2h Axe and the Coq Hammer he is very Strong

@Avoozl

2 жыл бұрын

As with all classes, it all depends on the player. Slayer is a fantastic career, and the dual axes are great! I'm sorry that you've only experienced the bad ones.

@Managarm1999

2 жыл бұрын

@@Avoozl no Dual Axes/Hammer are way worse in Boss and Horde DPS than 2h Axe/Coq Hammer and thats a fact and not my opinion. ofc u can play with them but u will miss a lot of dmg and usefullness for ur team

@Avoozl

2 жыл бұрын

@@Managarm1999 If it's all about damage, then sure, but a great axe is worse when you're surrounded, whereas the dual axes help you maneuver easier. All weapons have their strength and weaknesses. Also I'd rather have a dual axe slayer than a footknight with mace/shield that runs around doing nothing or a Kerillian that runs off by herself and gets killed. In the end it all comes down to the player and their skills.

whyyyy areeee youuuu dutchhhhh

For those who wants an easier solution, Just spam dodge gg ez

@heartydumpling6297

2 жыл бұрын

And then learn that most weapons have limited amount of effictive dodges in a row

@TheBrotbert

2 жыл бұрын

@@heartydumpling6297 jump to reset

Not really a comparison between the 2. Cataclysm is about 3 times harder than legend. You can get away with not synergising weapons and talents and legend. Block cost isn't as important in cata imo. I still run it on one item or weapon but not both. It you're blocking you ain't killing. The best thing about cata is the pub players. Legend pub players are annoying and the team rarely plays as a team. Cata is much much different. Having ppl run off is much rarer imo. Hard running into cata players that suck as well. Lots of legend players are horrible, but cata they are good because they have to be.

I'm actually confused. When i got into the game, I went up level by level. And when I unlocked a new difficulty, I played on that exclusively. That includes Legend. Do people actually find Legend hard? I can understand cataclysm, because I'm failing at it. But Legend???

@ClayInvictus

2 жыл бұрын

I guess that depends on your playstyle. When I played in Champion I relied overly much on stagger. I played mostly GK, FK and Merc, and used stagger-oriented weapons and traits like sword&mace, shields, opportunist, stamina regen etc. In Champion you can stagger almost anything and keep them staggered at all times, but you can't do that in Legend. I had a really hard time adapting and had to re-learn the game a bit. Now I play on Cataclysm, and I felt I didn't had to do as much adaptation between it and Legend. If you had a more dode-and movement-oriented playstyle I guess Legend wasn't much of a difference. Enemies just hit a bit harder and took one or two more hits to kill.

are you male?

another tips : do not play as bad as this video show pls