5 Forgotten Romance Languages: Part 3.
Today, we finally return with a long awaited Part 3 to the award winning series. Learn about these 5 Romance Languages that are often forgotten in the world of languages and how we should protect them from extinction.
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Disclaimer: I am a training linguist so not fully professional, so before you comment about me using the wrong past participle or that my ergative verb was 3 declensions too high, take your degree from the University of Reddit elsewhere, this content is to help people whom are getting into languages and not to overwhelm them with overly specific definitions.
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5:36 You said Macron but showed Bashar Al-Assad. 😅
@CheLanguages
2 жыл бұрын
All intentional my friend.
@kylerk576
2 жыл бұрын
@@CheLanguages ha
@C_B_Hubbs
2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was Macron for a few seconds but then I thought it was Erdogan from Turkiye. Is it actually Assad?
@003mohamud
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@@C_B_Hubbs ye
@yvesremy7096
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And - we don't see it here - he's twice as tall as Macron ;-) ;-)
Sardinian being the closest language to Latin is a dubious claim, as it is the last remnant of the Afro-Romance family, which was the first group of languages to diverge from that Latin spoken in Europe. Polymathy has a video somewhere explaining that the Latin of 5th-century Italy was written the same as Classical Latin but pronounced much more similarly to modern Italian.
@CheLanguages
2 жыл бұрын
Latin was used as the Lingua Franca of Europe all the way up into the 19th Century in some cases as a written language, though no one had used it as a spoken language for some very long time. Even in Italy, evidence that the dialects split off fairly early, even perhaps during the late Western Roman Empire, is very possible. The scraps of information we have about African Romance (there is a good NativLang video on that) paired with Sardinian shows similarities. It is tricky to say which language is the closest to Latin, I read somewhere that Sardinian is 85% compatible but I couldn't find this source again for the video and I doubt it personally. The whole c/k distinction is what does it for me, except fir the now extinct Dalmatian, this does not occur anywhere else, they also end many words in u which is a shortening of Latin us or um endings, I would say it is closer than modern Italian to Latin but it is hard to say when you break down all the grammar and vocabulary etc.
@shpilbass5743
2 жыл бұрын
וואו, לא ציפיתי למצוא אותך פה. אני ממש אוהב את הסרטונים שלך, ממש גרמת לי להתעניין בהיסטוריה יהודית.
@giuvannicammora2821
2 жыл бұрын
Not realy. After my Dialect is sardinian and italian (i am from Rome) ... My Dialect Is Archaic and not toscanised.
@viperking6573
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@@CheLanguages I'll add something to that, sardinian has also the -us ending where accusatives had -us in latin, like sard. Tempus, corpus (body), pettus (chest) and so many more 🤔
@viperking6573
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It's hard to say how close Italian really is since it is very, and I mean very latinized. Italian was used as a literary language, those writers would often change italian characteristics to imitate latin. From my perspective it's really hard to say since I just finished light reading the book of the historic phonology of sardinian by Wagner which goes really in depth on the change from latin to sardinian phonology. I should read such a book for Italian. All I can say is that vowel-wise, Sardinian is closer to Latin than Italian, since the vowels staid the same. Consonant-wise, Italian should be closer in some cases but I should really check, but for example filius>figlio/fiλλο/ mod.ital. Again here for example was it figliuo(?) The o>uo is super common in italian, but in sardinian it doesn't happen old sard. Supposedly by wagner >filiu/fiλλu or fiλu/ But modern fizzu,figgiu /fidz:u/ and fijju with j like in just., And also fillu /fillu/ in the south Although, strictly speaking, the words, syntax, pronunciation/k,g in front e and i and so on/ is way older than italian, also the verbs are closer to latin : to run is 'I run' sard. Ego curro, it. Io corro, nois currimus, noi corriamo in italian, there's no comparison in there right? It's pretty clear what's closer to latin imo
The "Fala" has a strong similarity, sometimes the same, with the dialect of my region in Portugal (Beirão Dialect), they use the same words as us and even certain phonemes. "Fala" is a synonym for "idiom" in Portuguese. The valley of Xalima, where "Fala" is spoken, was once Portuguese territory during the Middle Ages.
Which language from this list is your favourite? Do you speak any of them?
@ugniusmarcinkus6731
2 жыл бұрын
I think my favourite is occitan, because it sounds like a mix of french, spanish and italian.
@darkkestrel1
2 жыл бұрын
Arpitan due to it being from my region and I'm learning it, and the dialectal wealth it has is amazing, someone from the Valais would have a lot of difficulty speaking to someone in northwest Savoy. Though I love the sound of Occitan when spoken with the traditional tapped r
@CheLanguages
2 жыл бұрын
@@darkkestrel1 I thonk it was you who told me to make a video on Savoyard. Franco-Provençal/Arpitan is a beautiful language indeed.
@darkkestrel1
2 жыл бұрын
@@CheLanguages yeah haha, i don't think I called it savoyard though coz it's not something I'd do but whatever glad you put my hometown's photo btw ;)
@jennareiner7067
2 жыл бұрын
Occitan, Arpitan, and Walloon!!
I don't know if this was mentioned but there is a Walloon dialect in the Door Peninsula of Wisconsin. Unfortunately as of 2021 it has less than 50 speakers.
@CheLanguages
10 ай бұрын
I didn't know about that! That's awesome, hopefully it can be preserved. Does it differ widely from the Walloon in Wallonia?
I think you should do Chiac, which could be considered a dialect of accadian french in Canada. It has a ton of English loan words, so it is a language that both francophone and anglophone speakers can kinda get the jist of it. :)
@CheLanguages
Жыл бұрын
I'll look into it...
Loved it. Part 4, please.
@CheLanguages
2 жыл бұрын
You've probably seen it but it's released!
It's always fun hearing about the more obscure romance languages, also, did you talk about Sardinian in another video?
@CheLanguages
2 жыл бұрын
No, I talked about Corsican lol.
@GavinPetty
2 жыл бұрын
@@CheLanguages Ah, right!
It’s amazing to me, being in the US, how many different languages are in close proximity to each other. As a language lover, I’m envious!
@CheLanguages
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Well, go into any major American city and you'll find hundreds of different languages next to each other!
@nickimontie
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@@CheLanguages True, but it’s not the same. Looking for a good reason to travel! 😁
At Villefranche sur Mer it should be Provençal, like on the Riviera, Occitan is rather in the southwest...Around Toulouse.
@CheLanguages
6 ай бұрын
When I went to Villefranche sur Mer, people just spoke standard French LOL. That's what happens I guess
great video! would love to see how you evolve as i only recently found your videos!
@CheLanguages
Жыл бұрын
This is an old video too, check out my latest and see what you think!
Nice video😁
La Fala es muy similar a cuando algunas personas hablan un español poco ortodoxo en los Andes de Colombia. Y me pregunto si algún día también pudiera originarse una lengua derivada del español en nuestro país 🇨🇴.
@CheLanguages
6 ай бұрын
Interesante, quiza este dialecto viene de gente en el region de la lingua Fala
I don't think it's unfortunate they are disappearring. More people speaking one language means more communication, peace and unity.
@CheLanguages
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That's true and it's a good argument, but at the same time, losing a language means losing a large part of your culture. For example, I think it's a good thing that all of Italia now speaks Modern Standard Italian, but it is still sad that some of the unique languages are being lost in replacement for the common language
@latronemastrucato7288
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Sadly I think your point is doubly wrong. People not understanding each other hasn't ever really been a great cause of strife. Neighbouring peoples who speak related languages are just as likely to go to war, if not more so than people who don't speak intelligable languages. Just look at the Balkans, the Serbs Kroats and Bosnians speak languages which are totally mutually intelligable that hasn't ever stopped them from warring. Secondly claiming that it's a good thing to see a people's language and therefore culture go up in flames is profoundly hurtful as a statement. What is being destroyed is the intangible heritage of a people. That's not something to be happy about. Sincerely a speaker of a language close to extinction.
"Walloon" is actually a group of dialects. I myself understand (and speak a little) of what could be called central Walloon (roughly around Charleroi and Namur), but can hardly understand the Walloon from Liege to the east, and have a lot of trouble with the Mons version to the west...
@CheLanguages
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I never realized this, it was a long time ago when I made this video to be fair. Have a great day!
@ValeriusMagni
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All the languages are group of dialects till someone usa a standard.
@yvesremy7096
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@@ValeriusMagni Yes and no. French may be a group of dialects, but there is a standard official version. Not in Walloon.
@ValeriusMagni
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@@yvesremy7096 all languages are a group of dialects, evereyone
My favoriet is sardinian, but I like the name of that other one , xalimeGOH! 😁
@CheLanguages
2 жыл бұрын
Which other one?
In Italian we have the word Fola, that means fantastic, unbeaveble, speech.
@CheLanguages
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Interessante
@ValeriusMagni
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Fola? Che cazzo dici? Mai sentita
@aldocuneo1140
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@@ValeriusMagni Guarda su un vocabolario.
@aldocuneo1140
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Sostantivo femminile. Bugia, affermazione incrediibile, discorso basato su pura fantasia eccetera. Modo di dire " Non contar fole". Magni, di grande c'è solo la tua magna ( per grande non per magnare ) ignoranza e maleducazione.
@ValeriusMagni
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@@aldocuneo1140 ma chi usa fola? In tutta la mia vita mai sentito. Ignorante? Pensa per te
A Bible in Romansch
@CheLanguages
2 жыл бұрын
What about it?
@kevinbram2433
2 жыл бұрын
@@CheLanguages To Be A Language Never Fogotten
France is the only European country which doesn't recognise any minority languages.
@CheLanguages
11 ай бұрын
That's true, shame on them!
I really like your channel and video, and it's full of content, positive ebergia and success to you. Just informing and correcting you in a small detail and I ask you a favor with your international influence and outside your channel and within it, make an appeal to the onube the european union to protect minority languages and Europe and in America and Oceania, many languages in fact are dying in the world. The indigenous languages of America America of Oceania are not even spoken, with their influence combat linguistic ethnocide. Going back to Sardo and Corsican, Latin came from Corsican, Sardinian and Elbano, and of course all Latin languages are grandchildren of these other languages, such as Italian and French, but what about Corsica Island, the French government cowardly stole the island from Italy and tried via Latin and French to destroy the Corsican language. Then the poor Corsicans migrated to Sardinia and there Sardinian mixed with Corsican, from this mixture of Sardinian and Corsican and Elbanian I came out and came the true Latin, the proto-Latin in fact from the Romans. But then the Roman church destroyed the Latin of the Romans by imposing its false phonetics, that in the Middle Ages and there in the Modern Age, the Roman Church encouraged Italy and, France and Spain and Portugal to have their national languages. In the Middle Ages Napoleon decimated the Corsicans, almost all of them did not succeed because many Italian ethnicities never let that happen, starting with the Sardinian people and the Ligurian people of Genoa and Piedmont etc. In Corsica the clerical false Latin and the French try to destroy the Corsican. In Sardinia Italian is false Latin clerical try to destroy the Corsican, Sardinian and Galures which is the fusion of the 2, on the island of Elba Galurese mixed a little with Elbano and formed pure Latin, and on the island of Elba, elbanian is galures they are spoken in a pure way the island is small, at least there italian and latin does not come out as persecutors the island has no financial attraction. But we must never trust the politics of Italy, the Vatican and France if they committed crimes in Sardinia and Corsica they can repeat this on the island of Elba. Nothing is guaranteed in these countries. Defend Corsica's liberation from France and its return to Italy. Success and hugs my friend, peace, health.
@CheLanguages
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That's a lot to read and I noticed some things that seem a bit off, like Latin coming from Corsican, but I'm an Italian nationalist and fully support Italian restoration in Corsica, Nice, Savoia, Istria and Malta
למה ״צ״?
@CheLanguages
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כי השם של הערוץ הוא שפות עם צ׳ה. אות צדי לשם צ׳ה
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@CheLanguages
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צ
@Dan-hispano.
6 ай бұрын
ץ
Not a picture of Macron. Picture of Hassan of Syria
@CheLanguages
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You mean Bashar al-Assad. And it's something called sarcasm
Just an observation, at about 5:30 into the video you start to speak about the poor job President Macron of France has done in protecting minority spoken languages while simultaneously displaying a picture of Syria's President Assad; These two gentlemen look nothing alike. Interesting video nonetheless.
@CheLanguages
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It's an inside joke intended for one person only who used to mix them up
That is Assad, dictator of Syria, not Macron, President of France.
@CheLanguages
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It's an intentional joke...
@ulrichschnell2331
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@@CheLanguages Got ya!😁😯
France is try to dominate Europe by their language. In Belgium, the French speakers, are less than Dutch speakers, but they try to manipulate the politic position, the same to Switzerland, german speakers are far more numerous than French speakers, but they do the same thing as well, manipulate the political influence, also! In Luxembourg! French speakers try to create that! The top ranking of social life is French speakers! Their number is shrinking! But try to bring back their hournest ! Oh----- bye bye!