The flavour of plot is that you are the big villain, monologuing about your plans to the hero.

@madgodloki

12 күн бұрын

Very true, I was originally thinking it was plot like a plot of land you're settling down but they're actually plots like evil plans lol

@zeusalternative1270

12 күн бұрын

You're planning for the future, and is fun that is mostly used to make combos so you're literally and metaphorically plotting.

@braddtheodd3390

12 күн бұрын

The Flavor is that if it was facedown you'd confuse it with Foretell.

@laurentrobitaille2204

12 күн бұрын

@@braddtheodd3390 Imo, mechanically foretell and plot should have been swapped. When you foretell something you know something in advance whereas you don’t want someone to know you’re plotting something against them.

@laurentrobitaille2204

12 күн бұрын

It’s still weird because if you’re “revealing” your plan, then you’re not plotting anymore.

Foretelling an event is secretive, plotting an event is public knowledge. Got it.

@laurentrobitaille2204

12 күн бұрын

WotC moment

@jaysonking4055

12 күн бұрын

Was going to comment literally the same thing. Cause it makes absolutely no sense

@malcomchase9777

12 күн бұрын

Foretell means a seer told you what's coming, Plot means you are a villain monologing about your plan. Yeah, the names work better backwards, but the mechanical implementation of the free spell needs it to be face up, or it would be too overwhelming.

@laurentrobitaille2204

12 күн бұрын

@@malcomchase9777 Would’ve been smarter to make another mechanic altogether or reuse an older mechanic that would work thematically like raid.

@TheGrifcannon22

12 күн бұрын

Instead of plotting, it should be scheduling.

Screaming at my screen that picklock prankster's adventure is an instant...

@Samst0n

12 күн бұрын

It’s basically engagement bait at this point. Read the cards Seth!

@MTGGoldfish

12 күн бұрын

@@Samst0n Never! (Okay, maybe sometimes...)

@deadneck13

12 күн бұрын

Glad I wasn't the only one screaming....

@YohWolf

11 күн бұрын

The term is non pretentious if you watched the video

For anyone curious I looked it up and the difference between vermin and varmint is that vermin refers specifically to small pests like mice and insects. Varmint is broadly just any troublesome animal like a wolf to sheep even, technically.

@mostlyholy6301

12 күн бұрын

"Varmint" is actually just a variant spelling of "vermin", they have the exact same meaning.

@RedWurm

12 күн бұрын

@@mostlyholy6301 yes - a fun relic of changing pronunciations. 'Vermin' kept the same spelling but changed the vowel sound, 'Varmin(t)' kept the old vowel sound, and updated the spelling to match.

@derrickthewhite1

12 күн бұрын

I've heard "Varmit" used as a legal term meaning "An animal you can shoot without worrying about hunting licenses, hunting tags, or hunting seasons". As in a coyote, prairie dog, skunk or jackrabbit.

@MurdoktheMimicKing

12 күн бұрын

And as the English language tends to go, there seems to be a hundred definitions that nobody can agree on lol who knows the real mystery behind the elusive varmints...

@WusigiDr1

11 күн бұрын

So I’m a varmint to the closest pizza place got it.

Varmits were unrionically my prerelease draft all star. Its so easy to get a massive amount of bodies on the board.

@51gunner

12 күн бұрын

I'd kind of dismissed it as a "whatever" uncommon, but seeing it in a self-mill style deck is really cool. That really is a lot of 2/1s. Part of me wants to brew it Gruul or Naya-style and see if I can use green's self-mill tools well enough to fill the yard, then rock something like Plotted Varmints into Imodane's Recruiter for a ton of hasty 3/1 Varmints. I may not even need the white mana for Recruiter's adventure.

I wasn't expecting the first 20 seconds 😅

Were you really out of the game at 29:00? You have all these potential vigilant (can't be exiled to gain life) flyers and opponent is at 4 with 2 cards?

@holopldl

12 күн бұрын

Yeah, it's not over until the flyers are also answered.

@OGNoNameNobody

12 күн бұрын

This Comment is Correct; Opponent had only 3 cards left & no *Deluge* in yard. Seth was about 17% to win, but its a shot.

@Xorthis

12 күн бұрын

He doesn't seem to realize Free the Fae is an instant too. He complained about not being able to mill enough in the second game, but passed through the opponent's turn with the mana to cast it, then main phased it in the next turn instead of holding ertai and deciding if he wanted to mill or not. But yeah that was totally a saltyscoop despite having lethal in 2 in hand.

@claytortise154

12 күн бұрын

Yeah I was thinking the exact same thing. He's 100% still in it

@TransformersBoss

12 күн бұрын

Yet another preemptive scoop. Salty because his varmints died

Seth just shipped a winning game at 29:00... he had 2 adventure fairies and a fairy in hand against an opponent with 4 life.... seth why?

@vipershark1

12 күн бұрын

1 blue

@TheCarJesus

12 күн бұрын

Agreed... just cos your salty that your big play didn't end up winning doesn't mean you can't chip away with tiny creatures. Won like that many times, and the opponent had a mere 3 cards after burning most of their hand trying to cope.

@ruthpol

12 күн бұрын

Jep, definitely salty ... I guess he says his stupid catchphrase "people yell at me when I scoop early!" now only when the match is almost unwinnable, which is ironic ...

At 50:05 I love the new lore that “The Magic Gods” are the ones asking if you had fun at the end of a match 😂

I love all the recent budget episodes. Sometimes it's just a different take in monored, but these have all been so good

@MTGGoldfish

12 күн бұрын

Thanks!

That intro was peak

@jakecollin5499

12 күн бұрын

I checked like 5 times to see if it was an ad or I was on the wrong video

Plot is face up because every good villain monologues about their evil plan before it's realized

Thanks for teaching us about ground squirrels

When Seth finally actually said 'Analyst' instead of 'analysis', I literally felt a knot in my shoulder vanish

Attacking with the 0 power Archeologist probably confused the heck outta that opponent, what a power move! 😂😂😂

When you said Varmint Time it just made my mind to to Muddstah's "game review time"

29:03 with 3 1/4 fliers and opponent t 4 life. Like that was one of the weirdest positions to concede in.

Seems like in a lot of game this deck is starved on blue sources, this deck could use more of then

The sourcing of that intro clip is already impressive.

@MTGGoldfish

12 күн бұрын

It made me laugh, I wasn't sure anyone else would get it.

@HurricaneGregor

11 күн бұрын

Marty Stouffer's Wild America. Now THAT is pure nostalgia :)

6:16 the disbelief in seth's voice was so funny to me

Yeahh you mention the bo3 grave hate: one of those was def me, it's a shame since just as you mentioned it was incidental casualty from temur analyst :( I was playing a bant Flicker list which can do really cool stuff but g1 was decided quickly then G2 I just hit the turn 2 RIP and it was over. Still fun to run into you on ladder!

I was looking at this card with Immodane's Recruiter and Bitter Reunion They let you give your Varmints haste, and Immodane's Recruiter makes your varmint swarm 3/1s with haste

23:55 Opponent steals an island and plays it "What are they gonna steal from us?" later "Jokes on you opponent we got no blue mana" 😂

Only time I ever play standard or historic or anything really on arena is when Seth puts together a budget deck. Love it.

This reminds me of a deck I played back in the 90s. It used Ertais familiar to mill a lot of creatures into the graveyard, then I smacked Tombstone Stairwell on the board and attacked with a lot of zombies for lethal. I might craft this.

I feel like there should be more than 2 islands in this deck considering the number of blue spells present. Seth was pinched on blue mana literally every game lol

@derrickthewhite1

11 күн бұрын

totally. the blue cards are key to the deck. you never need double blue, but the blue spells tend to be either very cheap or things you want to do twice in a turn.

Great Deck and love the idea behind it!! As always, awesome content guys

@MTGGoldfish

12 күн бұрын

Thanks!

I would try to combo with Imodane recruiter to increase the damage even more and have letal in that one turn.

Interesting deck. Even more fun to watch

It’s so overtly crazy, the opponents never believed it was coming.

"unpretentious main phase play with fire" KILLED ME LMAO

Could be fun to add red for imodane's recruiter. when you cast the varmints for zero you have mana up to give them haste.

@chartypeplays2396

12 күн бұрын

It's always fun to haste up your massive board, but I don't think that imodane's recruiter is optimal for this deck. Having haste doesn't usually make a difference unless your opponent has a board wipe, and ertai is a better answer to that. It's within the colors that this deck wants already, and it has a useful effect when you don't have your lethal board assembled.

@brenton6016

10 күн бұрын

@@chartypeplays2396 Oh yeah I wasn't going for optimal, I was going for fun haha.

Analyst❤! Oh, and I think the difference is that Varmints can be vermin, but not the other way around, because varmints live outside and prefer it that way, vermin invade homes and cities and sewers. It’s a subtle difference, but it’s like the difference between rats/mice and something like prairie dogs, possums, and armadillos. 😀 Squirrels and chipmunks are both at the same time, it depends on if they’re in the woods, or stuffing your attic with nuts.😂

The little varmints that could

I haven't had a chance to play games with it yet myself, but another card I wonder about a lot for this (especially as a budget option) is Slickshot Lockpicker. Still a creature, can plot for when it's needed, and will let us directly flashback some Varmints.

Magic's flavor is peak, "I have outlaws, dragons, machine beings, angels to help me to victory!" "...so I'm going to maul them, and then you, to death with squirrels"

I dont know if anything is funnier than Atraxa being overwhelmed by a large pile of homey badgers.

Case of the Locked Hothouse + Tatyova, Steward of Tides = create 2 4/4 flying creatures with haste for free ... tech: Lost in the Maze(which you can play off the top with case) to tap any flyers in the way, or buy time on defense

Surprised more people aren't talking about Rise of the Varmits. I've been brewing with i a ton. I've found Gruul is the best combo allowing to give your varmints haste, plus the thrill of playing a Devilish Valet then dropping a Rise if the Varmits feels soooo good!

Tip: if you click the number next to a stack of units, you can declare the whole stack to block, or attack. And then you can individually split the units out to the stack.

I’m getting Innistrad Spider Spawning vibes from this deck. Cool budget brew Seth!

For future reference when gang-blocking, you can just click the number above the tokens and click what you want to block.

Vermin are small, rat creatures in nature, and Varmints are slightly larger rats that are a cross between a squirrel and a possum

I’m thinking about making this deck. I was considering, because I’m cheap, replacing some of the rares with bitter reunions to give the varmints haste. You’re already running riveteers land, so throwing a couple of mountains might not hurt that much.

Fun list. Makes me wanna experiment with a Gruul list. Use the plot and use the mana to sac a Bitter Reunion for some haste

23:53 The most excruciating thing here is seeing them take YOUR ISLAND

Exceptional opening

Honestly it would have been better thematically to have swapped the definition of Plot and Fortell. It would make more sense for Fortell to be known to all, but the Plot would be hidden.

@galacticgamer6635

12 күн бұрын

Wow, what a bold, radical take. I’m sure wizards will hop in their Time Machine if enough of these get made.

Vermin has a negative connotation, meaning the creature is a pest or unwanted creature. A varmint can refer to the same kind of small, furry, troublesome creature, but it lacks the same negative connotation usually. It's more like just a wild animal in general, if that makes any sense, while vermin is very specifically an unwanted pest. Some vermin are varmints and some varmints can be vermin as well, but on the whole they're distinct groupings. For example, a Rat might be both vermin and varmint, a regular mouse is a varmint that could be vermin but isn't necessarily vermin, and the same might go for a raccoon (some people keep raccoons as pets), and a cockroach or mosquito is an example of a vermin that isn't a varmint.

Wild America shoutout! Nice!

Wow I literally already have all the rares for this. The deck seems super fun

53:10 there is a cut that made my brain break

Love that intro 😭😀

i would love to pair a one of turtle for bouncing in the early game and shegeky loops later

Best intro EVER!

No Vilespawn Spider from VOW? {u}{g}, 2/3 creature with reach, at the beginning of your upkeeep mill a card, then {2}{u}{g}, {t}, sac ~: create a 1/1 green insect creature token for each creature card in your graveyard. No, 1/1 insects are not 2/1 varmints, but it does self-mill, puts a creature card in the graveyard when it sacs itself, and does a decent Rise of the Varmints approximation in mid-to-late game. You could use them in place of Blanchwood Prowler, which underperformed every time it showed up.

Varmints should have been squirrels. That way we could get some cross synergy with Bloomburrow in the next set. Thank you fir coming to my ted talk.

Does this card work in modern? Is there any reason to use it instead of some other mass-reanimator like all the cascade decks?

8:43 The standard legal mono red sweeper for you would be End the Festivities, not likely main deck, but i could see it in sideboards to use against go wide token decks like this

@LordZurkov

6 күн бұрын

I'm honestly surprised it doesn't see more maindeck action. Hoses boros, cleans up low PWs, and worst case scenario it's 1 to face and a prowess trigger.

@ReyosBlackwood

6 күн бұрын

@@LordZurkov those are reasons id expext it in a sideboard

Plot and foretell should swap hidden and revealed. Makes way more sense flavourwise that way

So sad to not see ol 'stick here but the deck looked great

@33:00 Ertai can counter abilities

Other than the mana base what upgrades do people recommend?

What's funny is that at the end of game 2 against domain, they were just dead on board if you swung out *through* the Atraxa. The best they could do is block one of the 14 varmints and the Echo and Ertai, which would put them exactly dead to the 27 damage from 13 varmints and the archeologist 😳

@22:10 you had exactly leathel even if you didn't kill Atraxa, that's how overwhelming the varmints were

The artistic design of Varmints is kinda strange. They have a big, beaver-like tail, but otherwise are a cross between an armadillo and a Gremlins gremlin. They're cute in the Rise of the Varmints art, but gross looking on the token.

Varmints plus Devilish Vallet is my favorite deck right now

I need Seth to write a children's book called "Everyone Punts". To go on shelves next to "Everyone poops".

29:05 You had a good chance of winnign with Picklock beeats. They were at four life and you had three in total. Picklock has flying and vigilance so Wandering Emperor cant exile them or make tokens to block it. Your life total was high enough that even if they did deal with the faeries that gives you tons of time to rebuild for another varmit wave or just beat them down with creatures.

i tried building sultai graveyard/varmints in standard but i was really unimpressed. 2 mana 18/18s with no evasion that either get chumped for days or die to removal.. I was hoping varmints would help the deck push through, but i didn't get to cast it very often.

I am shocked founding of the third path isn’t in this deck! It works with adventure cards mills for cards and lets you recast the varmits. It may not be a create itself but it does pull it’s weight!

Could you do another Pioneer budget deck next?

Wish I could See a Varmints and first day of class deck

Make a version of this deck that has a actually functioning mana base please.

Isn't the flavor of the "Plot" mechanic related to land? Like plotting a stretch of land for development.

Someone steamrolled me around a week ago by playing this game plan but all the Rise of the Varmints are plotted to then put a Devilish Valet on the battlefield and swing with a stupidly lethal threat

Met someone with Temur version of this while playing Grixis Poison, i thought i was against Temur Worldsoul combo but they then cast Devilish Valet and cast Rise of the Varmint. Too bad i have Invoke Calamity in hand, dude scooped immediately when i recast Ill-Timed Explosion from my graveyard lol

There is also a new creature that costs 3 mana its name has lockpicker in its name unsure of what its full name is but it is uncommon in ourlaws and has an etb that gives spells in our graveyard flashback... for 3 mana and leaves behind the 2/3 body ...its actually how i have been playing limited with rise.ofnthe varmints 😅

I want to see this deck concept, but with Anger. XD

33:06 Ertai can counter abilities. It could have countered that land effect and blocked

Love the deck, but I don't think Seth knows the spell side of Picklock Prankster is an Instant (unless he's just being unpretentious).

Wonder how good rosenof varmints is with the legendary creature that changes all of the tokens you create into a 3/1 dog with vigilance or 2/2 cat with haste suddenly youre able to win on the spot

@zigzag2370

12 күн бұрын

Jinne fay jetmirs second

Aw, when I saw Varmints I thought you were playing the interesting combo deck I saw on ladder that uses Rise of the Varmints+Devilish Valet to OTK you out of nowhere. That was an interesting deck.

@Tinil0

12 күн бұрын

Also daily reminder that I am committed to having you actually pronounce Takenuma right for once in your entire life. Just one time. I would give anything. It's my life's mission. Please give this to me. It can be your birthday present to me.

Says there is no combo with analyst.. proceeds to play 12 + sac lands 😂 love the deck idea

Amazing intro

Hi Seth! Thoughts on Bitter Reunion in the deck?

@MTGGoldfish

11 күн бұрын

Giving all the varmints haste does seem pretty sweet :)

@bjarkov12

10 күн бұрын

@@MTGGoldfish After watching I've built the deck using 2 Bitter Reunions as well as some jund and grixis triomes and a mountain or two in the mana base to support them. It has been really good for me (Reunion is also mill if you squint) - as you yourself experienced the turn you have to protect your varmints can be a problem and Reunion solves that nicely Urborg Lhurgoyf is the first card to add when going further above budget, btw. I think it plays even better than the Somnophages

12:00 foretell and plot should switch names

I feel like you could fuse this with the insidious roots deck to make a really powerful self mill brew.

@11macedonian

12 күн бұрын

I thought the same at first, but they do kinda work opposite each other since insidious roots beeds creatures to leave the graveyard

At game 2, did seth forget that picklock prankster's adventure is instant speed? He kept ertai up to counter board wipes but kept forgetting to cast the prankster at end step.

@GaleeStorm

12 күн бұрын

Also, the deck def looks like it needs more islands lol, game 3 opp stole an island and i think he milled another one so seth was stuck with one island the whole game

@29:00 Why concede? Am I missing something? Oppo only has one mana and you could topdeck a sorcery, blue mana, or another creature; or just run out your fliers one by one? You have life total and untapped advantage. Isn't he in a better spot than the oppo?

it’s the plural tense i believe right ? vermin is plural varmint

Every match “missing blue mana”

Why ertai as your counter - just because it's one more varmint if milled? Negates would be easier to hold up and not risk drawing your opponent into another wrath.

There are already a lot of comments about 29:00 but I have to wonder at this point is he throwing to make us comment more? You have 3 flyers in hands ( hands adjacent) and you're opponent is at 4. To quote Jim Davis I don't think we're done her but okey.

@kanyda1

12 күн бұрын

Yeah I was wondering if he just forgot he had those on adventure.

run aftermath analyst as removal protection

Maybe after rotation kills the Analyst deck, graveyard hate in bo3 will dissipate.

what on earth was that first monored opponent doing

But of course "Plot" is out in the open, What villain or outlaw doesn't brag about their master plan?? It just smacks of the foretell counter-spell "Saw it coming"

I think I can fuse this with my insidious roots deck😮

I love me a good build-around uncommon