Mono-Black Devotion, but it's Rush of Dread Combo, Actually | Much Abrew

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Rush of Dread combo has fallen flat in Standard, but what if that's because people are playing it in the wrong format?
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  • @MetaPixel7
    @MetaPixel715 күн бұрын

    "Is high noon even good?" Proceeds to get demolished by high noon.

  • @ther3aper561

    @ther3aper561

    15 күн бұрын

    It's one of my favorite Seth-isms honestly lol "is ____ even good?" And then gets beaten pretty handily and then wants to try it out

  • @AaronRotenberg

    @AaronRotenberg

    15 күн бұрын

    I think Seth now has to do a "Teaching Arena Zoomers about Rule of Law effects" video.

  • @louisdooner3029

    @louisdooner3029

    14 күн бұрын

    That point at the end of the High Noon match where he had just given up. Feel for you Seth.

  • @Oxygen1004

    @Oxygen1004

    13 күн бұрын

    @@AaronRotenberg "Teaching Arena Zoomers about the law"

  • @jrjamesson

    @jrjamesson

    12 күн бұрын

    @@AaronRotenberg seems like he already got taught himself

  • @matthewgaughran4903
    @matthewgaughran490315 күн бұрын

    I absolutely would watch an Oregon trail play through

  • @dylanmahoney4889

    @dylanmahoney4889

    14 күн бұрын

    Same!

  • @Buddybeej
    @Buddybeej15 күн бұрын

    The Oregon Trail: Congrats, you have dysentery.

  • @DemonBlanka
    @DemonBlanka15 күн бұрын

    Opponent #1's red eldrazi list was really cool, I've been playing Abzan Eldrazi for a while now so seeing a completely different spin on it is awesome and I love the cards that the red uses.

  • @leonorhelling982

    @leonorhelling982

    14 күн бұрын

    Your list Also sounds Pretty cool, if its on mtggoldfish can you show me the name?

  • @ThisAintAStupidName
    @ThisAintAStupidName15 күн бұрын

    Cool to see Seth playing Mono-Black Deviation, hiding a Rush of Dryad combo :)

  • @RafitoOoO

    @RafitoOoO

    15 күн бұрын

    Best deck since Murders at Markov Manor dropped.

  • @ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle

    @ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle

    15 күн бұрын

    ​@@RafitoOoOblack has been the best deck for like the past 3 years now

  • @Tinil0

    @Tinil0

    15 күн бұрын

    @@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle I don't think you understand, Back hasn't been the vest deck in a long time

  • @ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle

    @ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle

    15 күн бұрын

    @@Tinil0 really? Remind me how long rakdos was the meta for? Or esper? Ain't no way you're trying to tell me black isn't the strongest color right now

  • @ronald_grinder

    @ronald_grinder

    15 күн бұрын

    @@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle It's good, but Aftermath Analysis is good too.

  • @jasonoshman1079
    @jasonoshman107915 күн бұрын

    Please PLEASE do an Oregon Trail playthrough! Oregon Trail 2 is so fun to watch people play!

  • @chris7372
    @chris737215 күн бұрын

    Mono black devotion is maybe my favourite deck so pretty hype to watch Seth (probably better known as SaffronOlive) !

  • @S4DC4T

    @S4DC4T

    15 күн бұрын

    mono black devotion is my go to deck in pioneer

  • @chris7372

    @chris7372

    15 күн бұрын

    @@S4DC4T Mono black devotion and waste not is my jam

  • @luvurnignog
    @luvurnignog15 күн бұрын

    Oregon Trail playthrough would be fantastic!

  • @erfunk

    @erfunk

    15 күн бұрын

    Patreon video or bonus stream are the obvious ways, but I'm sure it can get shoehorned onto the channel. ;)

  • @TransformersBoss
    @TransformersBoss15 күн бұрын

    Cleansing Wildfire on your own Indestructible land is something I haven’t seen before, pretty cool!

  • @darkanayer5867

    @darkanayer5867

    15 күн бұрын

    It's my little trick for my sliver commander deck, slotted a few indestructible lands just for the one that destroy artifacts and enchantments on ETB. If there's nothing else to destroy you are forced to destroy something of yours since it's not a may effect. But indestructible doesn't make things illegal targets for effects like that, just like you can cast a counterspell at something that can't be countered, which is useless but it can have its uses (for example, mana drain still gives you the mana even if the spell isn't countered)

  • @TransformersBoss

    @TransformersBoss

    15 күн бұрын

    @@darkanayer5867I have a 5-color Artifact Commander deck that runs all 10 Bridges and Darksteel Citadel, I’m seriously considering slotting this in. I almost always have an Indestructible land, and I have 1 of each Basic in the deck… this might work

  • @jonarbuckle320

    @jonarbuckle320

    15 күн бұрын

    its a pauper all star with the MH2 artifact lands

  • @ferdithetank7535

    @ferdithetank7535

    15 күн бұрын

    Essentially a Rampant Growth that draws you a card in specific decks that run it

  • @alejandrovallejo6763

    @alejandrovallejo6763

    15 күн бұрын

    Very used in mono red prison/control decks, not only ramps but in relevant formats can help stop tron, urzas saga, depths, etc.

  • @swampybwoy
    @swampybwoy15 күн бұрын

    I love how this is one of those decks Seth keeps coming back to and updating every year or two

  • @DrAngryMongoose
    @DrAngryMongoose15 күн бұрын

    MBD without Obliterator. I don't care if it's suboptimal how could you?

  • @DonovanPresents
    @DonovanPresents15 күн бұрын

    50:27 I've never seen Seth give up quite like that 😆

  • @keilanl1784

    @keilanl1784

    14 күн бұрын

    Yea right? I get OP could've exiled a card to Otherworldly Light to exile the Gifted Aetherborn and sacrificed one of the High Noons to kill the Eye Tyrant, but it's not guaranteed OP saw that line. Plus, Seth had the upper hand and was causing OP to answer everything he was drawing with Castle Locthwain lest he take a few damage points and die. That scoop seemed way too early to me.

  • @sveltemax3606

    @sveltemax3606

    13 күн бұрын

    I think he also edited out a lot of that opponent slow-roping the game and was just moving on with his life. Do-nothing, no wincon control players don't make for very good content (or friends, or people...)!

  • @CDShap

    @CDShap

    7 күн бұрын

    @@sveltemax3606 I am honestly surprised he didn't pick a different match to put in the video

  • @AutkastKain
    @AutkastKain15 күн бұрын

    I'd watch an Oregon trail playthrough. Also, I've already gone like 4-2 or something in BO1 while watching the video. Love this archetype, and it gave me a good reason to craft the bloodletters (I already had the Rushes from just craving packs and the mana base from a previous devotion deck),

  • @flipwhatthezipp4609
    @flipwhatthezipp460915 күн бұрын

    Seth repping the days n' daze shirt gives me lots of joy. Great choice!

  • @randomsocknr.3334
    @randomsocknr.333415 күн бұрын

    That mono red eldrazi deck looked really sweet

  • @jarvvoitlus9458
    @jarvvoitlus945815 күн бұрын

    i'd watch oregon trail

  • @bf5826

    @bf5826

    15 күн бұрын

    do it!

  • @TheARodSupreme
    @TheARodSupreme15 күн бұрын

    I would 100% watch an oregon trail playthrough

  • @carissamace
    @carissamace15 күн бұрын

    I would love an Oregon trail playthrough solely to hear you say "Or-gon Trail" for multiple hours.

  • @charlenegregory5318
    @charlenegregory531815 күн бұрын

    I would DEFINITELY watch you playing Oregon Trail…on a magic channel.

  • @jacefairis1289
    @jacefairis128915 күн бұрын

    is that a Days 'n Daze shirt that Seth is wearing?? hell yeahh

  • @maxlancaster975
    @maxlancaster97513 күн бұрын

    Combo decks are good when they have a shell that’s good regardless 99% of the time I feel, really smart to find that home in this deck, nice brew!

  • @jek15origami
    @jek15origami15 күн бұрын

    Great vid! I loved how you worked the combo into an already viable deck so it has backups. Would def watch an oregan trail playthrough also.

  • @jaxsonbateman
    @jaxsonbateman15 күн бұрын

    Oof, match 1 game 1 opponent getting three Cleansing Wildfires + indestructible land is pretty nuts (especially when their deck can't have too many of them due to needing colorless mana producers), as well as double Forsake Monument. They ramped harder than a lot of green decks do.

  • @miguelfreitas5343
    @miguelfreitas534314 күн бұрын

    I find it amazing how much diversity you have in your Explorer games... *MY* queue is nothing but Greasefang or Amalia combo

  • @GryphonicDesign
    @GryphonicDesign15 күн бұрын

    I would watch an Oregon Trail stream. Seth will butcher the names of everything there too.

  • @TransformersBoss
    @TransformersBoss15 күн бұрын

    47:49 Should’ve cracked the map token, Seth

  • @chasebethersonton5169

    @chasebethersonton5169

    15 күн бұрын

    Several times.

  • @eduardoriemenschneider6101

    @eduardoriemenschneider6101

    15 күн бұрын

    Map tokens can only be activated at sorcery speed

  • @TransformersBoss

    @TransformersBoss

    15 күн бұрын

    @@eduardoriemenschneider6101 I meant before he attacked. He always forgets to crack his maps before he attacks. Animate the land and crack the map during the precon at main. Still would’ve been killed in response, but would’ve been the best move, given his options

  • @overtone55
    @overtone5515 күн бұрын

    Love the update to the deck! This is the only deck I play in pioneer. My version has a few underworld dreams / Shelly + a peer into the abyss, so you have a few other combo kills. It's nice to be able to board into a decent mid-range deck with some good creatures and card draw

  • @sambarney8244
    @sambarney824415 күн бұрын

    I would absolutely watch an Oregon trail video

  • @coreysierchio4650
    @coreysierchio465015 күн бұрын

    To Quote Troye Sivan, "I feel the Rush, Addicted to your touch!"

  • @Rokuro1
    @Rokuro115 күн бұрын

    Mono red eldrazi sounds amazing

  • @nikhilchhagan7371
    @nikhilchhagan737115 күн бұрын

    I’ve been running a version of this deck that includes the Sorin Vein Ripper combo and it’s felt pretty great. Highly recommend

  • @Jerrysaurus
    @Jerrysaurus15 күн бұрын

    I absolutely loved the Oregon trail. It's probably not very exciting now, kinda like how the ninja turles were not as hard-core as I remember.

  • @noobtube2799
    @noobtube279913 күн бұрын

    37:17 tap all the swamps plus a castle to play bloodletter and nykthos (plus activation), then activate a castle and you can cast the card because you will have 7 mana left over to cast what you draw

  • @FETUSSTATUS
    @FETUSSTATUS15 күн бұрын

    Definitely building this deck ❤ I love mono black

  • @jaxsonbateman
    @jaxsonbateman15 күн бұрын

    That opponent was basically just playing High Noon to turn Spell Queller into straight counter (instead of temporary, O-Ring style counter), right? Definitely a fun idea, but seems more cute than anything. Probably the only thing that might make it less cute and more viable is that if they don't draw their Quellers they can at least use the High Noon as expensive removal.

  • @jjzwak
    @jjzwak15 күн бұрын

    This is totally been the deck I wanted to brew for a while and was thinking explorer for nykthos as well so I appreciate having a better deck builder to copy from! 😅

  • @Sabadasz
    @Sabadasz13 күн бұрын

    I'm a huge fan of Rush of dread, even when played fairly. It's super useful removal that gets around protections/indestructible. at worst it's a Sheoldred's Edict for 4 which kinda sucks, but more often than not you can at least get 2 or more sacs if the opponent has 3 or more creatures, making it even out with the cost of '2CMC destroy a creature' but on a single card. Late game it can be a super good discard spell, getting 2 or more cards discarded for 5 mana. Because of rounding up, you can even hit people with a full hand size with a 'discard 4' which is BRUTAL. The loose half life effect is probably the best play even without the combo in place because it can make almost any deck race-able. if they've had no lifegain for the entire game so far, you're at least guaranteed to drop them to 10, usually less because of shock lands or other small life cost effects. very easy to clean up at that point. It can even swing a game that's stalled out as a topdeck if you can spree for all 3 effects

  • @Firstonetolive
    @Firstonetolive15 күн бұрын

    Seth's play in the next to last match was kinda baffling. I think he must of have been tired and frustrated.

  • @jvt3888
    @jvt388815 күн бұрын

    Brings me back to the days of trying to jam scourge of the sky claves with warlock class

  • @michaelbetzer2704
    @michaelbetzer270410 күн бұрын

    Oregon Trail playthrough we need it!

  • @maruleonard6327
    @maruleonard632712 күн бұрын

    I absolutely love Phyrexian Arena. As a mono black player, I run 4 of em a lot. Probably not a good idea, but it does work so I will keep doing it

  • @rubeshere
    @rubeshere15 күн бұрын

    Is it worth it to put some white dual lands in to put in Revival/Revenge for a redundant win-con? The Revival side also has some value.

  • @AbyssalFury
    @AbyssalFury15 күн бұрын

    I would watch an Oregon Trail play through!

  • @Houororoiocoaonoe
    @Houororoiocoaonoe15 күн бұрын

    Would definitely watch an Oregon Trail playthrough!

  • @r1nsync
    @r1nsync13 күн бұрын

    I love anything with Phyrexian Arena. Such a great card.

  • @nikitamiller3207
    @nikitamiller320714 күн бұрын

    I'd love an Oregon trail playthrough

  • @DamienRowley
    @DamienRowley15 күн бұрын

    I've been toying around with a similar list, which I kinda shelved in lieu of Waste Not, but I might go back and make both.

  • @stevenjones4953
    @stevenjones495315 күн бұрын

    Yes please play Oregon Trail. I would love to watch a gameplay video of that.

  • @eotkavle5712
    @eotkavle571215 күн бұрын

    I'm already playing a version of this for pioneer 😁

  • @kennycolburn4109
    @kennycolburn410915 күн бұрын

    Hell yeah I'd watch an Oregon Trail playthrough

  • @williamnordhorn3391
    @williamnordhorn339115 күн бұрын

    Do you think that lively dirge has potential in standard? - it basically is 5 mana to tutor up any 4 drop creature from your library to the battlefield - you could get Sheoldred, bloodletter or any other 4 drop creature on turn 5, but it also has flexibility as a tutor

  • @dustindavis3537
    @dustindavis353715 күн бұрын

    10/10 would watch an Oregon Trail video.

  • @nalbas828
    @nalbas82815 күн бұрын

    Any chance we can get playlist that just groups stuff together by format. Like modern only playlist

  • @christianbraun8067
    @christianbraun806715 күн бұрын

    Orgon is my favorite state

  • @LK90512
    @LK9051214 күн бұрын

    İ will never fully understand Seth's hatred towards black enchantment removal 😂

  • @SilverAlex92
    @SilverAlex9215 күн бұрын

    I love the redundancy of this deck. Warlock class looked really janky on the deck tech but those games against stone brain show its real power. Plus the level 2 impulse turned out very good.

  • @lucasdunk2536
    @lucasdunk253615 күн бұрын

    I played against Seth running a Smugglers Surprise deck in standard the other day, waiting to see if it is included in a video since he wasn’t streaming.

  • @ther3aper561
    @ther3aper56115 күн бұрын

    That failed meathook against High Noon was sad. If they didn't have a counter you win there.

  • @ShadowH271
    @ShadowH27112 күн бұрын

    When is the Oregon Trail video going up?

  • @ecoKady
    @ecoKady14 күн бұрын

    100% will watch Oregon trail. The better you do in the game, the more rares you get in you next league.

  • @stonerainproductions
    @stonerainproductions15 күн бұрын

    Sign me up for the Oregon Trail stream!

  • @dantehidemark1397
    @dantehidemark139715 күн бұрын

    Invoke despair would be a fantastic sideboard option against Waste Not, maybe it could be a consideration?

  • @Deargo_Prime
    @Deargo_Prime14 күн бұрын

    thanks seth

  • @gregthewalnut603
    @gregthewalnut60315 күн бұрын

    I’d try and fit sorin vein ripper into this

  • @jack229111
    @jack22911115 күн бұрын

    I'd watch an oregon trail video, and an organ trail video, as long as the characters are named after mtg character lol

  • @hollowedassassin
    @hollowedassassin15 күн бұрын

    Hate how fast he scooped to draws game one has plenty of time to come back with the combo

  • @DanielGalllego
    @DanielGalllego12 күн бұрын

    rush of you area dead is fun af but i personally wouldn't call it a combo card since it has good power by itself and not only due to it's versatility. dread and avarice are themselves both great awesome black cards that solidify the identity of black of "while you play magic i'm here playing poker"

  • @DrAngryMongoose
    @DrAngryMongoose15 күн бұрын

    I'll playing the bad version with Peer into the Abyss bc it combos with more cards, but maybe I should adjust

  • @englishrobin96
    @englishrobin9614 күн бұрын

    I fully support an Oregon Trail playthrough!

  • @uruguaydan2796
    @uruguaydan279615 күн бұрын

    38:53 Wouldn’t meathook x=4 give three drain triggers tho?

  • @MrPhethean
    @MrPhethean13 күн бұрын

    Interesting. What about Coffers in Modern?

  • @RBGolbat
    @RBGolbat13 күн бұрын

    30:45 Seth still unwilling to accept Black gets limited Enchantment removal smh

  • @probablynox8744
    @probablynox874413 күн бұрын

    Just wondering why not run invoke despair?

  • @CDShap
    @CDShap7 күн бұрын

    I feel like Tithing Blade would be good in a deck like this

  • @raynmanshorts9275
    @raynmanshorts927515 күн бұрын

    >"It looks like mon-black devotion, but it's not!" >It's actually just mono-black devotion

  • @davidlee9591
    @davidlee959115 күн бұрын

    Yeah I'd watch Oregon Trail. might want to stream it though because you can just take it easy and talk to chat

  • @yinxellsco3977
    @yinxellsco397711 күн бұрын

    i could see this brew getting competitive, maybe i could benefit getting more ways to tutor nykthos or combo pieces, or getting more agressive card draw

  • @adamtobiasz8793
    @adamtobiasz879315 күн бұрын

    The deck is too expensive. Rush of dread worked out in my seal but card is too narrow in usage.

  • @Namedonelettere
    @Namedonelettere15 күн бұрын

    Please do make an Oregon trail video and name the other pioneers MTG KZreadrs

  • @jamham99
    @jamham9914 күн бұрын

    "Teaching Arena Boomers About High Noon"

  • @caleb7882
    @caleb788215 күн бұрын

    Deck should definitely be playing sorin ripper

  • @suNn.K.O
    @suNn.K.O15 күн бұрын

    I see MonoB Devotion, I click. Personally I prefer to play Hopeless Nightmare in the main over thoughtseize/duress. Sure, you don't get to pick what they discard, but it gets another black pip OTB.

  • @DrAngryMongoose

    @DrAngryMongoose

    15 күн бұрын

    I run deep-cavern bat, with the aim of protecting combo

  • @solarfyre2136

    @solarfyre2136

    15 күн бұрын

    I play 2 Hopeless Nightmares maindeck as well, alongside 3 Thoughtseizes. Works really nicely. Also, I play 2 Vitos in my list - it does enable some really crazy lines

  • @tysonkrunek4132
    @tysonkrunek413215 күн бұрын

    Warlock class, any other wound reflection effect.

  • @TransformersBoss
    @TransformersBoss15 күн бұрын

    24:05 Your opponent isn’t casting anything for the same reason you’re not casting anything: you both have hands full of removal and you both know it. He Duressed you and you Thoughtseized him.

  • @obadijahparks
    @obadijahparks15 күн бұрын

    Tymaret, chosen from death. All I'm saying....

  • @noobtube2799
    @noobtube279913 күн бұрын

    "Gary Merchant" Look seth, its either Gary or Gray Merchant. Not both

  • @michaelsimao495
    @michaelsimao49514 күн бұрын

    I really fill like we are on different ladders i fight against so manybof these decks

  • @njnjhjh8918
    @njnjhjh891815 күн бұрын

    watched

  • @mickrutowski6295
    @mickrutowski629513 күн бұрын

    Please play Oregon trail OR organ trail

  • @MaxDunk
    @MaxDunk15 күн бұрын

    Oh shit Seth, is that a Days and Daze shirt?

  • @DemonBlanka

    @DemonBlanka

    15 күн бұрын

    Good catch, that's sick.

  • @MindstabThrull
    @MindstabThrull13 күн бұрын

    I still disagree with black "breaking the colour pie" with respect to having enchantment hate. Being stuck playing white or green - two colours that share a LOT in terms of what they can do - to get an enchantment off the board I think is a crime, and not the Thunder Junction type. Black being the colour of decay seems to make the most sense to get enchantment removal compared to red or blue, as enchantments can decay over time for various reasons - time, for example. Also Duress and Thoughtseize can already get rid of them from the opponent's hand. Incidentally, I would not be adverse to one or two copies of Karn the Great Creator or something similar so you can turn your opponent's artifacts into something you can remove via Murderous Rider et al. About 49 minutes in, maybe you could have Shot the Murderous Rider to stop the opponent from gaining life with the Helix?

  • @NartFOpc
    @NartFOpc14 күн бұрын

    Double it and take it from the next person.

  • @NathanJenkinsonAnalytics
    @NathanJenkinsonAnalytics12 күн бұрын

    Oregonian here… It’s not pronounced Oregon… it’s pronounced Oreg’n… Oregonians are very particular about that in spite of the fact that it’s a totally fabricated word with an indeterminate origin… But yes, I would definitely watch an Oregon Trail video!!

  • @oridrake7735
    @oridrake773515 күн бұрын

    Love seeing this channel going from "Would this great card go well in this great archetype" Much Abrew to "Can JUJU BUBBLE win in Timeless?" Against the Odds over the course of a set

  • @chasebethersonton5169
    @chasebethersonton516915 күн бұрын

    Gary lol

  • @Jim_Owen
    @Jim_Owen15 күн бұрын

    Dammit just what I didn't need, more mono black decks on Arena completely killing my mono red magda land hate deck. Literally this was the first deck I queued into today.

  • @ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle

    @ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle

    14 күн бұрын

    Oh the irony of a ponza deck being salty about not being able to play the game

  • @Jim_Owen

    @Jim_Owen

    14 күн бұрын

    @ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle hey I'm just out here keeping people's mana base honest with a bunch of field of ruins, demolition fields and 4/4 scorpion dragons. I'll crawl back into my hole for now and wait until arena players start getting greedy again. Then I'll strike

  • @unbenknownstofficial9959
    @unbenknownstofficial995915 күн бұрын

    Idk if you're reading these comments anyway Seth, but if you do I apologize if my other comment was offensive. I have met a lot of people in person that I have asked a similar question to and haven't elicited anything other than understanding conversation. Didn't think it would hurt anyone's feelings, I'm just curious.

  • @Bubblenuts13
    @Bubblenuts1315 күн бұрын

    Instead of playing Phyrexian arena you should try Treacherous Blessing, along with a four of Beseech the Mirror. Than you can play an even stronger sort of toolbox build with toolbox removal and essentially 8 Bloodletter. You might need some more enchantments or artifacts to make beseech more consistent, though you already have plenty of Mai deck enchantments. You could even play a one off Phyrexian Obliterator to tutor up with mirror when you need a super strong blocker/attacker.

  • @chrishoye55
    @chrishoye5510 күн бұрын

    SETH PLEASE 😂😂😂 it's pronounced oreGUN not oreGONE

  • @JesseARTDIY
    @JesseARTDIY15 күн бұрын

    Literally faced this deck yesterday lol it was not fun 😅

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