Indeed, respect to the mono w humans player (Asabin) for sticking through that. Great sportsmanship.

@wesc8111

Ай бұрын

I'm sure they wanted to see how that turned out haha

@TheyCallMeDio

Ай бұрын

That was you, wasn't it?

@VictorianoOchoa

Ай бұрын

@@TheyCallMeDio Wasn't me. I am just genuinely happy to see good sports on MTG Arena because my experience is that many of them are the opposite of good sports.

@number4497

Ай бұрын

@@VictorianoOchoa​​⁠agreed. Like I totally get it, most of the time I’ll concede when it’s clear I don’t have a way to win, but sometimes you’ve just gotta let people have fun with their bullshit

@DesArthes

Ай бұрын

Maybe monowhite player waited for brave the elements card. He really needed do 1 damage :D

.....Anyone want to tell Seth his Deck Editor grabbed the _wrong_ *Pick Your Poison* ?

@Hylianlink51047

Ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing

@MindstabThrull

Ай бұрын

Yes but no.. it's kinda funnier with the wrong one up :D

@nokiafusionreactor5447

Ай бұрын

Intentional asf

@dangeresque429

Ай бұрын

I'm confused what's the other one?

@MFSIMBA

Ай бұрын

There's a card from the mystery booster play test cards with the same name​@@dangeresque429

Typical gamer: Wow, this guy sucks Seth: Our opponent has made some choices this game that would be very different from the choices I would make 😂

"Our opponents hand dies nothing" Not even 2 secs later "Our opponents hand plays a turn 3 Vein Ripper" 😂

@MTGGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Can't Thoughtsieze the top of the deck ;)

golden goose seems like a much better mana dork if your goal is to cast a tri-color or double-U spell on turn 2 or 3

I'm not sure why I heard Pugnacious Hamburgerskull and I was here for it.

@AulaGeschrabbel

Ай бұрын

It's Seth, every pronunciation is possible

@Alikaoz

Ай бұрын

That is or will be a YGO card.

That vein ripper promo art looks like he's pulling off a sick kick flip

being able to cast the adventure half when a card is plotted is very dumb and also very funny

@g.n.s.

Ай бұрын

Yeah I’m hoping they don’t “Nerf” it to some kind of Companion-esque additional cost. Would it work with like Sea Gate Restoration then?

@Il_Dilettante

Ай бұрын

​@@g.n.s.plot says cast so no it can't play the land. also the companion rule is not the relevant rule, the cascade one is.

@g.n.s.

Ай бұрын

@@Il_Dilettante I thought about it after a while and was so thankful someone had the same conclusion. As for the Companion rule I guess I sort of used that as a blanket term for making a card essentially cost more for being in your hand, regardless. Cascade is a better description, so I agree! Plot still seems pretty flexible which I think is going to ignite a lot of home brews. I’m excited.

@zackestin1368

Ай бұрын

If they made an adventure card have a combined cmc that would be even worse for game balance, because it means adventure creatures can just freeroll into cascade and discover decks, to be fair ​ @g.n.s.

@joshrivet4011

Ай бұрын

Plot into Adventure has the same energy as a forced camping trip.

Unfair, he has plot armor!

You know what modern magic needs? Circles of protection

@stevenyukabacera160

Ай бұрын

Teaching Arena Zoomers about Sleight Knight

@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle

Ай бұрын

Also ensnaring bridge

@AndrewS-vu4ji

Ай бұрын

Circle of protection: affinity

when against the odds becomes meta

@aidan_savage

Ай бұрын

The second time in explorer involving casting cards from exile 🤔

That win percentage. Nice.

fun fact if you give jace flash you can flash it out turn 1 (you have to cast it on your opponents turn as its not your turn)

I'm very confused by the fact that once you were on 1 and couldn't cast the Atraxa, that you kept her in hand instead of discarding her off Jace, which woulda let you cast her when Tibalt went ultimate

@jrjamesson

Ай бұрын

good point, though the singleton golden goose would let him cast it too if he drew it

As soon as I saw Kellan Joins Up I thought the card should merge with the Reenact the Crime archetype in standard. I haven't tried it yet, but Kellan/Familiar paired with Reenact/Jewel+Vault should provide an insane amount of consistency with the added benefit of partially avoiding targeted graveyard hate

Epic thumbnail on this vid 🎉

The thumbnail is so wild lmao

If this had been a Crim deck, it would have been called “The plot: it’s thickems”

Now this is pod racing

I know Ulamog seems like such a big really good creature to put, but I just feel like something could be put at this place. Not sure what, but it felt dead a lot of the time except maybe the last game ?

Release to the wind could be good here if you can find room, works with both bramble familiar and valki

53:20 - While I do agree that the mana base seems to be working overall, there were multiple instances of color screw when Seth needed to Supreme Verdict. I think that card in specific may be a bit to greedy on the mana base. Can the deck work with a more castable wrath? Or are there that many aggro decks in this format that have counterspells?

@Duall8

Ай бұрын

As weird as it is, the other 4-mana Wraths are harder to cast (Kaya's Wrath) or have downsides like Shatter the Sky or Depopulate. Actual Wrath of God and Day of Judgment aren't in Pioneer.

@NMS127

Ай бұрын

@@Duall8 Shatter the Sky can also have upside in this deck.

@Duall8

Ай бұрын

@@NMS127 If you have Ulamog in play? Seems like winmore to me. Or Ulamog is bad if it can't win the game against aggro by itself given you could have cheated in virtually any creature.

@MTGGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Yeah, a less color-intensive wrath might be worth considering.

@PhetaFox

Ай бұрын

Needs 4 Thran Portal to cast Kellan more consistently. Card is slept on for 3 color decks in Pioneer. Basically a 3 sided pathway.

I get so excited to hear the intro , and then its really sad :( . Love the content Seth, but please I need an AAAAGGAAINST THE ODDS TIME

Seth I'm working on my Birgi Ignus Combo deck for Timeless, its quite fun and consistent. It mulligans really well, and its so satisfying to grapeshot or imact tremors somebody for 20.

This deck is sick

How did you get the Mystery Booster playtest card on Arena lol I think Pick Your Poison is the first play test card to have its name get used on a real card.

@MetaKaios

Ай бұрын

It's tied with Red Herring, also printed in MKM.

This deck has single handedly got me interested in Explorer again

@trondragon44

4 күн бұрын

Was this in explorer? Deck tech said pioneer and he calls it out as pioneer multiple times. Was confused by this being on mtga if its pioneer.

The humans game was really good

I was just feeling that no don't do it, when you had the option to play the vein ripper and took the cards instead. 😅

:D I was happy that my fplth the lost on the range, threw me alot of cards... Now i know i missed one big fact. So gonna make a plot deck with the adeventure sites in mind now xD.

why don't you run the pathway lands more? they enter untapped and you can choose the color you need.

@MTGGoldfish

Ай бұрын

I don't really like pathways in three color decks, I'd rather just play more "real" dual that always make multiple colors.

@snoozer0101

Ай бұрын

@@MTGGoldfish ok I was just wondering

this deck is hilarious

4:51 ah yes my favorite Gruul deck, the ones that are black and green. 😅

So usually when I see people try to get Tibalt into play, it's through Bring To Light. Is the plot version better?

any chance to make deck with maskwood?

Didn't Wizards have changed the rules so double-face card mana value was the sum of both costs?

@xchronox0

Ай бұрын

Nah, that was for split cards, not double-face cards. Split cards used to have three different costs (left side, right side, both sides) that you could choose from when a card asks for mana value. Now it's always the combined cost.

at 24:30 we put ourselves dead on board but they punted by not tapping down a creature with giant killer

It's a counters deck with extra steps!

Needs 4 copies of Thran Portal

I had the idea for a deck like this before the set released but it was waaaaay more all in. With a mana base of all early untapped lands to support it. I haven't played it because it's very wildcard intensive but looks like a good time and not as bad as I had originally conceived. It doesn't look to have the peaks of your deck cheating Atraxa or Ulamog early but it aims to whiff way less often. Instead of having a deck more dedicated to Bramble Familiar and it's payoffs like your's, mine aims to be more consistent at hitting that turn 2/3 plot, even including blue leyline for a turn 2 flash Jace because why not if the deck is all in anyway. It was really just an concept of "How can we abuse these Plot 3 or less cards?" and as I found out doing research the answer isn't great besides Valki. Bramble is decent but requires significant deck building commitment of additional payoffs. I went the other direction. Including more cards with a cheap, plottable front half, therefore making Bramble bad but making a card like "Release to the Wind" another enabler for the deck. And to be clear I don't expect it what I've made to be good. Just an idea of "How far can I take this Jank concept?". Kinda wish I could test my deck but alas. At least I can share my thoughts...and the list. www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6400273#arena (Sideboard is just examples of other potential cards that work with the plot cheat idea rather than a real sideboard.)

Curious as to why no flicker of fate in the deck to flicker and retrigger Kellan joina in for more plotting?

@MTGGoldfish

Ай бұрын

I don't really think it's necessary. If we get a Tibalt or Ulamog we pretty much with with a single Kellan Joins Up.

i thought it was mildly bm to keep stylin on the opponent after getting the gg in game 5 but seth just didn't realize how big the team was lol niceeee win rate

How are you playing pioneer on arena?

If you wanna have a higher chance of turboing out Jace or Kellan Joins Up wouldn't Goose be better to have a 4 off than running 8 elves? More consistently the right colors, though you do lose some long game.

You should make an Open the Way Goldfish Thing

leyline of anticipation can get around the jace restriction

@MTGGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Yeah, I tried it. It's funny when it works, but overall it's pretty inconsistent.

hilariously during the final game seth's devotion to white was actually higher than his devotion to green, not that impacted much

So I don't think I'm going to use this in Pioneer, way too expensive, but this might have just solved a Commander I was debating selling and was gonna be sad because while he's my first I've never done a lot with him due to not having the right stuff/knowing the typical stuff you do with him. I think with this combo though this could be what we've been looking for all this time.

When you said Tibalt, I thought you meant Tibalt's Trickery.

On the game 2 against golgari vampires rigging (first bo3), you could've just transformed valki into the hammerskull AFTER attacking and wouldn't get a stun counte

@MTGGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Isn't that what I did?

@xaropevic7918

Ай бұрын

Yep, it was the case, sorry lol

Why not side in the Leyline against the red deck and vampires?

Does this work with cards plotted by the legendary homnuculs

@TheTunaSaladin

Ай бұрын

Yep

@MTGGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Yeah, you can play a Valki or Bramble Familiar with Fblthp and then cast the other side the following turn.

Why all the elves?

36:27 I wish we had the original emrakul on arena.

@Gryphoon

Ай бұрын

Not legal in Pioneer/Explorer anyway

Wait is pioneer on arena?? I thought they only had explorer

Waitaminute. Didn't they despark the big 5 walkers? Did they backtrack on that after the backlash?

@TheTunaSaladin

Ай бұрын

They never confirmed whether or not Jace was desparked when that happened

@thaddeusgenhelm8979

Ай бұрын

For the Desparking stuff, it's been mostly inconsistent, we know Nissa lost hers, but like Chandra, Kaya, and Ajani kept theirs, Jace kept his, Vraska lost hers. It was less "the big 5 all got desparked" and more like "we desparked people at completely random."

What is twara?

at 27:20, why aren't we casting the life-linking 7/7?

@verdiss7487

Ай бұрын

He doesn't have a source of black mana other than mana confluence, which would kill him

@user-pv3yt3ol4h

Ай бұрын

Because it requires black mana, and Seth only has a Mana Confluence to generate it. It would kill him if he used that land.

@derrickthewhite1

Ай бұрын

Thanks

@KhanShotFirst

Ай бұрын

Better question is why he didn't loot it away to cast it at 30:00, lol.

Isn't the halfling better than the lanawar? Every relevant card is legendary. Edit: NVM I thought it was historic.

@lorei1556

Ай бұрын

Who plays with alchemy cards

@kaemonbonet4931

Ай бұрын

@@lorei1556 halfling is from lotr, it's modern legal!

@lorei1556

Ай бұрын

@@kaemonbonet4931 yes but historic = alchemy trash

this deck feels like it could be good

@MTGGoldfish

Ай бұрын

I think it's got a chance.

I'm surprised you're not trying to abuse Leyline of Anticipation for a turn 2 Jace

@yoyoguy1st

Ай бұрын

He already has 8 unplayable bricks in the deck it’s probably not great to have another one, especially one that only helps with jace and doesn’t help any other part of the deck

@RedPandaStan

Ай бұрын

this is a terrible combo that doesn't help at all. kellan joins up does the exact same thing on turn 2, and doesnt need some janky terrible 2 card combo that normally doesn't win the game bc u had to put 4 dead cards in ur deck for it to work.

It will be even better with esika

Stop making unbeatable decks!!! I’m only kidding. Every time I log on to Arena to try something like this out I’m immediately paired against someone with the same deck but with like 12 more mythics, lol.

There is another adventure card that works with this interaction, but it just gives you 3 2/2’s

@hyenal.k.3738

Ай бұрын

Is it the green one drop from Throne of Eldraine? I don't remember the name off the top of my head.

@zawarudo497

Ай бұрын

@@hyenal.k.3738 yeah

@TheTunaSaladin

Ай бұрын

Flaxen Intruder, adventure is Welcome Home

@MTGGoldfish

Ай бұрын

Yeah, I considered that one, but I didn't feel like three 2/2's was impactful enough to make it worth it.

Great thumbnail

You all know this interaction is going to have a rules change just like cascade had to be changed

@lesternomo6578

Ай бұрын

unlikely

@itze_

Ай бұрын

I lost to a tibalt like this and it was just dumb, I hope it changes

@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle

Ай бұрын

​@@itze_simply run interaction

@adambryant6854

Ай бұрын

But discorlver didn't get changed

@eggu1828

Ай бұрын

Pretty likely. It was pretty much same with Brain in the Jar that could cast split cards

You have a play test card in your sideboard?!?!!?!? The opening decklist shows that.

@domotoro3552

Ай бұрын

are you talking about pick your poison? a card from MKM which is legal in the format he is playing…?

@glitchyikes

Ай бұрын

@@domotoro3552 there are 2 pick your poison, 1 is as you said, another is a playtest card shown 2:52

@domotoro3552

Ай бұрын

@@glitchyikes yeah? I think you should be able to figure out which one is actually in the deck, unless you’re truly missing something in your brain.

@glitchyikes

Ай бұрын

@@domotoro3552 of course i know, it is you who doesn't know of the error

4:12. Letting it rip.

@MTGGoldfish

Ай бұрын

It's by chair!

@sloth9669

Ай бұрын

@@MTGGoldfish riiiiiiight 😂

47:00 You hurt yourself for 2 damage for doing the get lost before combat instead of during, letting them use the maps before attacks.

Deck needs manamorphose

26:50 You are desparate for lifegain and your opponent was so nice to give you a 3/2 life linker. Why you no exile with Tibalt???? Edit, and then you still don't play it when you ultimate Tibalt...

You CAN NOT be salty about losing a game against mono-white against a greedy mana base. You literally taught zoomers about it a few weeks ago!!!

No fblthp? Lol

Did anyone else catch Seth say this was a Pioneer deck? 🤔

@MTGGoldfish

Ай бұрын

At this point I basically use Explorer and Pioneer interchangeably. I think they are close enough to being the same for it to work.

@TheDamianMichaels

Ай бұрын

@@MTGGoldfish I'm glad you acknowledged it, I was curious if they had full pioneer on the client yet and I just missed something, lol (Btw, there's a video on my channel called Karn's Caffeine Addiction. It's a Dynavolt Tower + Paradox Engine deck. I think you should check it out and try to improve upon my list, I think the deck is solid but could use some tweaking and I have faith in you to do that better than I did)

@TheDamianMichaels

Ай бұрын

​@@MTGGoldfishfair enough, I wasn't sure if full pioneer was on the client at this point or not so I was curious

🤔

Plotting these multi-modal cards via the cheap side and then casting them for the expansive side is so busted. Seems like a design mistake.

@gooob7548

Ай бұрын

Multiple cards on one card (split cards, adventures, DFC,etc) have long been known to have good interactions with ways to cast free spells. So at this point if it is a design mistake then they really don’t know their game.

@kylegonewild

Ай бұрын

@@gooob7548 Except they had to make a rule change to cascade because of it lol. It just shouldn't work that way at all or it *should* work that way but in all circumstances.

BTW, it's re-con, and not ret-con :D . You got the aftermath analyst right now, let's not also mistake this card.

@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle

Ай бұрын

Oh sweet summer child

the biggest problem w this deck is ur filling up 8 slots w completely dead draws, and jace is a dead draw turns 1-3. 12 cards, or roughly 20% of your deck, is completely worthless most of the game. def better than the leyline of anticipation bs, i still dont get how some people think that's good, but i dont see it being seriously good.

First! 🎉

69 views 2 mins ago. Nice 👌

How does seth manages to get paired with so many terrible players?

Do you have any idea how infuriating it is when you pronounce soft "A"s as hard "A"s and vice versa.

@p0rtugazz

Ай бұрын

B

Gotta love MTG's bugs and horrible coding, like letting the adventure of Bramble Familar be cast for free from plot... imagine being made by WOTC and still allowing stuff that isn't allowable in paper.

@zawarudo497

Ай бұрын

That isn’t a bug, this interaction works in paper

@alaraplatt8104

Ай бұрын

LOL

@henrye3935

Ай бұрын

It works perfectly fine in paper. What are you on about.

@christiandfeliodfelio3055

28 күн бұрын

@@zawarudo497 No it does not

@zawarudo497

28 күн бұрын

@@christiandfeliodfelio3055 no, you’re just wrong about this, you can cast adventures and the backsides of MDFC’s of plotted cards for free, it isn’t an arena only thing, you could bring it to an in person tournament and it would work exactly the same

I can’t watch any more of this. At 23 minutes I have to face the fact that despite playing magic for much of his adult life, Seth is very bad. I know the deck is complicated and the video is just for fun, but it’s not for me, it’s just painful to watch. See ya ✌️.

@EmilFreiesleben-vp5hk

Ай бұрын

Please explain to me what the mistake was

@jonarbuckle320

Ай бұрын

@@EmilFreiesleben-vp5hk there is always one dork who always comments this on every single MTGgoldfish video, probably just wanting to farm comments

@joshmg5465

Ай бұрын

Ur just mad he's better then u

@henrye3935

Ай бұрын

@@EmilFreiesleben-vp5hk I think he's referring to Seth playing the new Tibalt without activating his first one, thus missing one activation. I picked up on it, too, but Seth isn't just playing; he's creating content at the same time. There's a lot going on, so he's going to miss things occasionally.

@PeterTeePee

Ай бұрын

you must be fun at playgroups..