Can We Beat 3 Good Decks With Mono Black?

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Thoralf brings the classic 8-rack strategy to play against 3 of the best decks in modern. Can he beat them all?
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  • @CardmarketMagic
    @CardmarketMagicАй бұрын

    Find the decklists here: bit.ly/4aHkghD

  • @mattialinari9310

    @mattialinari9310

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you Magic Guys

  • @BaalRoi

    @BaalRoi

    29 күн бұрын

    Love these videos (especially if they're modern related) but it was sad to see a strange G-tron list being played :(

  • @CardmarketMagic

    @CardmarketMagic

    27 күн бұрын

    ​@BaalRoi Jamin simply accidentally shuffled the sideboard into the mainboard 😅 outside of that, it was a standard Tron list :)

  • @dylancurtis9024

    @dylancurtis9024

    14 күн бұрын

    I don't know if someone has already said it but in game one Thoralf had the win if he played the rack after having Carl discard a card. I know it's not a big deal and we all miss play, heck maybe I'm not seeing it all but as far as I can tell the third Rack would have made the life total difference, carl would have lost during his upkeep. All the love and keep playing magic!

  • @revanel
    @revanelАй бұрын

    Game 2 Jamin could've copied Thoralf's Rack with the metamorph

  • @yohanesparuntu4980

    @yohanesparuntu4980

    Ай бұрын

    Yaaaassss

  • @Bubblenuts13

    @Bubblenuts13

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah it almost seemed like Thoralf saw that and was ready to scoop them up, but didn’t have to!

  • @blueredlover1060

    @blueredlover1060

    Ай бұрын

    I feel like resetting The One Ring was still the correct okay, since Jamin would have lost to his own card before the Rack got Thoralf.

  • @DigitalSniper45

    @DigitalSniper45

    Ай бұрын

    Thoralf was at 1. Copying rack would have killed him upon passing the turn.​@@blueredlover1060

  • @MihaelGeng

    @MihaelGeng

    Ай бұрын

    @@blueredlover1060 No. Jamin's Rack would trigger at Thoralf's upkeep. While the Ring could only doom Jamin at his next upkeep.

  • @lukeoutbelow
    @lukeoutbelowАй бұрын

    Jamin copying Thoralf’s rack to win would have been amazing.

  • @jaminkauf6242

    @jaminkauf6242

    Ай бұрын

    😫😫

  • @maxzimmerman103

    @maxzimmerman103

    Ай бұрын

    @@jaminkauf6242 I too get blinded by drawing cards

  • @zzzamo

    @zzzamo

    Ай бұрын

    I saw that immediately, I thought the game was his

  • @charliefranklin8523

    @charliefranklin8523

    Ай бұрын

    Also he could've used sylvan scrying to get boseiju to hit mutavault

  • @tylerderden8880

    @tylerderden8880

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah, I thought that should be the play as well. However I'm not familiar with the rack

  • @daem0nfaust
    @daem0nfaustАй бұрын

    "Discardmarket" sounds like some mirror universe shenanigans.

  • @christianhatke477
    @christianhatke477Ай бұрын

    This show single-handedly keeps my love for paper magic alive

  • @lolspartan
    @lolspartanАй бұрын

    "Chalice doesn't do much" spoken like a man who hasn't been Chalice'd for 1 on 8-rack before.

  • @CostabiIe

    @CostabiIe

    Ай бұрын

    The chalice is the tron deck is generally there to be played for 0. It locks out a bunch of your own cards if you play it on 1, so more of a double edged sword.

  • @uriarte411

    @uriarte411

    Ай бұрын

    Gotta remember, it counters both. So when playing Tron if you chalice on 1 you stop a lot of his stuff, but now you also lose access to like 12 cards in your deck. So it'd be fine to do later once you have all the mana you need, but early it could cost you the game.

  • @waterguzzler5993

    @waterguzzler5993

    Ай бұрын

    @@uriarte411 Do y'all realize that the only way 8-Rack can win is by playing 1 Mana Rack effects? There is no way to remove chalice, and no wincon can be played. It is a free win for Tron

  • @BludMun

    @BludMun

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@waterguzzler5993 Davriel and mutavault are still win conditions but yeah chalice is good. Should also point out that you should be running urzas saga in 8rack

  • @kylegonewild

    @kylegonewild

    Ай бұрын

    @@waterguzzler5993 Not a free win for tron but good attempt at assessing the decks.

  • @MagicTheBallin
    @MagicTheBallinАй бұрын

    I got inspired by Cardmarket to start playing Modern! Got my ass beat

  • @CardmarketMagic

    @CardmarketMagic

    Ай бұрын

    What deck are you playing :)

  • @MagicTheBallin

    @MagicTheBallin

    Ай бұрын

    @@CardmarketMagicI played Temur Prowess against a Domain Zoo

  • @wafersmash338
    @wafersmash33828 күн бұрын

    you guys make the only content on MTG I can stomach. No one tries to act like they're the best MTG player of all time, and you ALWAYS seem to be having fun. Great content gents.

  • @fosterdawson7339
    @fosterdawson7339Ай бұрын

    Argh Jamin missed the funniest play possible Metamorphing Thoralf's copy of The Rack

  • @jaminkauf6242

    @jaminkauf6242

    Ай бұрын

    😫😫

  • @vladtodorov4665
    @vladtodorov4665Ай бұрын

    Carl looks amazing in costumes and the flair he brings is top notch. Also big cheers for the black suffering deck

  • @elspeth_tirel
    @elspeth_tirelАй бұрын

    15:31 If you were to copy the rack and use the upkeep trigger, Thoralf 6 would be damaged

  • @tertmemelur1880
    @tertmemelur1880Ай бұрын

    I've had a control player draw in response to their Ring trigger. They drew a Tishana which blanked the ring trigger, it was their only out ! then I untapped and bolted them thrice

  • @seth9350
    @seth9350Ай бұрын

    0:40 love how you can just see the card in the hat

  • @chris7372
    @chris7372Ай бұрын

    As someone who plays mono black for the absolute most part, this is a treat!

  • @eliaswolter2955
    @eliaswolter2955Ай бұрын

    Wasn’t there a cityscape leveler in Jamin’s yard to smash in thoralfs face at around 17:00

  • @justabanana5497

    @justabanana5497

    24 күн бұрын

    He threw that game in a few ways

  • @SpaceKaiser
    @SpaceKaiserАй бұрын

    The fact Thoralf almost won against Domain Zoo as well makes me think that this deck could do very well if modernized. That said Jamin did misplay and didn't copy the rack with the metamorph, but still.

  • @user-fu7no1xu5b

    @user-fu7no1xu5b

    Ай бұрын

    I agree although, I think sideboarding heavily favors most other decks. When your main win conditions are artifacts or enchantments, cards like pick your poison or annul can be brutal

  • @kylegonewild

    @kylegonewild

    Ай бұрын

    @@user-fu7no1xu5b They can be but the point of 8rack is to quickly force your opponent into topdeck mode. Dumb cards like TOR non-withstanding.

  • @SRMi

    @SRMi

    Ай бұрын

    Zoo is a fine matchup, tron is very very hard.

  • @valt3rnative
    @valt3rnativeАй бұрын

    Very cool! We need a goblin version of this

  • @CardmarketMagic

    @CardmarketMagic

    Ай бұрын

    That's a great idea!

  • @pedrokantor7972

    @pedrokantor7972

    Ай бұрын

    yes please

  • @DankAudioStash24

    @DankAudioStash24

    Ай бұрын

    Maybe without Stickers but with Lackeys instead?

  • @rossmckendrick2511
    @rossmckendrick2511Ай бұрын

    I know a few people pointed out the Metamorph copying The Rack, but after that did Jamin also have enough mana to Sylvan Scrying for the 2nd Boseiju, destroy Mutavault, and reset the board with the Oblivion Stone? Turn after unearth the Cityscape Leveler for the win

  • @Verlisify
    @VerlisifyАй бұрын

    Carl's top decks so nutty he topped deck off his opponent

  • @odoacredacalcutta5085
    @odoacredacalcutta5085Ай бұрын

    "At this point I would like to thank my mom" lol, I love you Thoralf ;D

  • @dekina1198
    @dekina1198Ай бұрын

    i personally think an updated list of 8-rack with cards like grief, orcish bowmaster and such (personally like Vicious Rumors for HP swing, and discard for 1 mana) would be pretty good and would have a way better chance! But even with that kinda "outdated" list it's pretty good and better then expected

  • @Ninguin

    @Ninguin

    Ай бұрын

    The only downside is that it gets destroyed by side boarding. A lot of these lists have the necessary artifact hate to stop bridge and rack in the side.

  • @BludMun

    @BludMun

    Ай бұрын

    Vicious Rumors is a terrible card lol

  • @kylegonewild

    @kylegonewild

    Ай бұрын

    @@Ninguin You get to update the sideboard of the rack deck too to deal with the current meta...

  • @dekina1198

    @dekina1198

    Ай бұрын

    @@BludMun i know, it's just a card i personally like. In generally i like to play with funky cards, like my favorite card for commander is Rug of Smothering and i even put it in every deck that aims to reduce live totals, no matter how good it is 🤷‍♂️

  • @jacobeden2083

    @jacobeden2083

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@BludMunwhat do you mean, it's a two-headed giant limited All-Star!

  • @theprojectdaemon
    @theprojectdaemonАй бұрын

    As an 8 Rack enjoyer I am both surprised and pleased to see this video today.

  • @nthnthms1212
    @nthnthms1212Ай бұрын

    Man, game 1 domain drew so well.

  • @snrristurlosen2388
    @snrristurlosen2388Ай бұрын

    I would also love to see regular Games of Magic with the best decks in the format. Altough I still love this video

  • @CardmarketMagic

    @CardmarketMagic

    Ай бұрын

    We use to do exclusively top tier decks of various formats but we found that much fewer people watched those. Every other creator already does it on MTGO so we spice it up a little by playing crowd favourite decks :)

  • @MRJazzygameplay27
    @MRJazzygameplay27Ай бұрын

    Ragavan single handedly won Carl game one, what a balanced card!

  • @joshuagriffith9191

    @joshuagriffith9191

    Ай бұрын

    You can argue leyline is the winner here. Carl ended at 4 life and fetched with hardly any of his lands.

  • @nickjoseph77
    @nickjoseph778 күн бұрын

    The hats and costumes you guys have really are so fun. You really get to play at work and I love your videos for it.

  • @ruthpol
    @ruthpol26 күн бұрын

    God, the start ... you guys have so much fun with this 😂

  • @iv9753
    @iv9753Ай бұрын

    I'm holding my breath for the custom Card video

  • @CardmarketMagic

    @CardmarketMagic

    Ай бұрын

    It's already uploaded and should be out next week or the one after :)

  • @QuickdrawMcQuaw
    @QuickdrawMcQuawАй бұрын

    This was great! So good to see 8-rack getting some love.

  • @juanlasthope3847
    @juanlasthope3847Ай бұрын

    Thoralf mengu and jamin are the holy trinity for me I love watching them so much

  • @youbluethatone1017

    @youbluethatone1017

    Ай бұрын

    What about CARL!!!?!?

  • @BraydenCobb-lg3nc
    @BraydenCobb-lg3ncАй бұрын

    😌It brings me so much joy to hear the name Murktide and “best modern decks” in the same sentence, seems us little delver wizards will still be kicken in modern no matter how many pick your poisons or bowmasters get printed. Thanks cardmarket for picking on Murktide even after the format warped away from it

  • @Aigis31
    @Aigis31Ай бұрын

    15:33 Not copying The Rack for the win is funny to me here. I would also miss this line.

  • @AaronWilliams-mr1iq
    @AaronWilliams-mr1iqАй бұрын

    Fantastic video would love to see more like it

  • @michaelsinnreich6626
    @michaelsinnreich6626Ай бұрын

    That Jamin game was a nail biter. Well played gentlemen.

  • @evanshaner991
    @evanshaner991Ай бұрын

    SaffronOlive had a really interesting version of the 8rack deck that I would've loved to see you take inspiration from. It was essentially mono-black scam with the rack and shreiking affliction.

  • @user-sc8xt7fh7o
    @user-sc8xt7fh7oАй бұрын

    Does anyone think the new tinybones could be played in this deck?

  • @Nidai64
    @Nidai64Ай бұрын

    Hey, glad to see more gameplay videos! The top videos are fun, but i felt like they were a bit too close to each other. Keep up the good work!

  • @MunetsuguTakeno
    @MunetsuguTakenoАй бұрын

    Loved the video, the smash styled challengers are very good (who made them?). Side note I love the bridge though I ve never got my hands on it. The rack also reminds me my favorite Legacy deck Pox. Man that was so much fun, shame I couldnt afford the blackwhite version though.

  • @Arkonu
    @ArkonuАй бұрын

    I never had any doubts.

  • @Theyflower
    @TheyflowerАй бұрын

    i love all of carl's super over the top costume =]

  • @dustfinger_until_dawn
    @dustfinger_until_dawnАй бұрын

    Couldn't jamin unearth the cityscape leveler and attack?

  • @nilspipenbrinck8040
    @nilspipenbrinck804029 күн бұрын

    That was a fun one!

  • @dustinross2618
    @dustinross2618Ай бұрын

    I still can't believe Leyline of the Guildpact is a real card.

  • @loxeggcheese
    @loxeggcheeseАй бұрын

    Let’s go pox! Think Jamin could’ve won if he copied the rack instead of the ring

  • @luiscarlosrocha4652
    @luiscarlosrocha4652Ай бұрын

    Loved the deck, crazy to build it as my first modern deck, but i dont know if i shoud wait for MH3

  • @HadesElderSage
    @HadesElderSageАй бұрын

    8rack got me into 60 card and modern after a year of only commander.

  • @BradleyAshley
    @BradleyAshleyАй бұрын

    You guys totally have to do a Canadian Highlander game sesh! Please!

  • @Jonny-ru7ky
    @Jonny-ru7ky28 күн бұрын

    Awesome! Can you do a waste not version of this pleeeeease?

  • @gladiak3067
    @gladiak306711 күн бұрын

    "At this point i like to thanks my mom"...made my day😂😂😂 i love that toffel play a modern deck which doesnt Contain modern horizon cards and just New stuff, i liked modern before horizons 2 :) and i had played 8 rack for a while

  • @muatafalol
    @muatafalol24 күн бұрын

    Can the rack target jamin despite having protection from everything because it doesn't actually say 'target' but instead 'choose a player'?

  • @DeadlyGrim
    @DeadlyGrimАй бұрын

    I did not know that Ensnaring Bridge and Smallpox were in Modern. Those are some classic and painful cards!

  • @WillowGreenVailati
    @WillowGreenVailatiАй бұрын

    0:39 I love you guys... 😂😂

  • @cutitproductions8669
    @cutitproductions8669Ай бұрын

    Why does the Phyrexian Metamorph trigger the cast effect? does this work with creatures and clones too? i thought only comes into play is getting triggered from clones

  • @ErikReischitz

    @ErikReischitz

    Ай бұрын

    The protection is an ETB trigger that only happens if you cast the card from your hand, not a cast trigger.

  • @jacobisbell9388

    @jacobisbell9388

    Ай бұрын

    Because one ring is not a cast effect, it is an ETB effect with the conditional "if you cast it"

  • @TheBraxton17
    @TheBraxton1725 күн бұрын

    Does hybrid mana not count against the jagantha companion requirement?

  • @Zanji1234
    @Zanji1234Ай бұрын

    :D i still remember when i first got a 7th Edition 2 player starter deck and some boosters and ... i liked Black and the idea of discard. When i really started to play YGO i also played discard (like HEAVY discard).... when i started to play Final Fantasy TCG i ...played discard. Now i play Lorcana ...and i play discard and my random Magic decks (paper) are...discard xD

  • @tciddados
    @tciddadosАй бұрын

    Super lucky Ragavan pull on that first game.

  • @DekuLord
    @DekuLordАй бұрын

    Game 1 Toralf didn't lose to Carl's deck, he lost to Ragavan.

  • @justre73
    @justre73Ай бұрын

    Wasn’t there a cityscape leveler on jamin’s yard in game 2 that he could’ve unearthed for lethal?

  • @Matyanson
    @MatyansonАй бұрын

    18:12 Updog!

  • @zappadali8696
    @zappadali869618 күн бұрын

    8 Rack is my William Montgomery deck, because I ain’t eva gonna stop playing 8 rack.

  • @Rainbow00Inferno
    @Rainbow00InfernoАй бұрын

    Jamin misplays 1. Discarding the Karn instead of The One Ring. upticking Karn on the pithing needle would've killed Thoralf 2. Like everyone says, Metamorph on The Rack would've killed Thoralf 3. Missed lethal on the last turn by unearthing Cityscape Leveler

  • @oafkad
    @oafkadАй бұрын

    The top decks in these are brutal.

  • @apoiio
    @apoiio27 күн бұрын

    14:16 the rack targets on etb, not on upkeep, right?

  • @niathdialf
    @niathdialfАй бұрын

    Everytime I see this video in my timeline the thumbnail changes. Not sure which I liked best though.

  • @johnkater5276
    @johnkater5276Ай бұрын

    Thoralf's deck needs some Candy Trails

  • @satheran12
    @satheran12Ай бұрын

    why did jamin not use cityscape levelers graveyard ability to win?

  • @skywalkr2
    @skywalkr222 күн бұрын

    3 really good matches

  • @SimonNielsenMTG
    @SimonNielsenMTGАй бұрын

    Did Jamin shuffle his entire sidebord into his Tron deck?

  • @1dude2cats
    @1dude2catsАй бұрын

    Thank you for this. I’m a mono black player only. Have a necro tattoo on my hand. And it’s refreshing to see it highlighted. ❤

  • @darkmode4980
    @darkmode4980Ай бұрын

    Can you try pauper commander, i think it could be interesting

  • @jaredstivers
    @jaredstiversАй бұрын

    It's funny how 8-Rack could be a strong Decklist in an artisan version of modern. Decklist 1 Dakmor Salvage 3 Davriel, Rogue Shadowmage 2 Fatal Push 4 Forsaken Miner 2 Geth's Verdict 3 Hopeless Nightmare 4 Inquisition of Kozilek 2 Long Goodbye 4 Mishra's Factory 4 Raven's Crime 4 Shrieking Affliction 4 Smallpox 16 Swamp 4 The Rack 3 Wrench Mind SIDEBOARD: 2 Break the Ice 1 Darkblast 2 Duress 1 Glistening Deluge 2 Malicious Eclipse 2 Mind Rake 3 Relic of Progenitus 1 Sudden Edict 1 Worm Harvest Other cards to consider, Cling to Dust and Whispers of Emrakul. Cling does give you life and card draw in a pinch. Whispers has a mini Hymn to Tourach and a Hymn if you got delirium.

  • @lds2795
    @lds2795Ай бұрын

    Can you companion jegantha with leyline in the deck? I thought you couldn't cause of the hybrid green but maybe it doesn't count cause it's all different hybrid

  • @SkillsByNiels

    @SkillsByNiels

    Ай бұрын

    You answered the question yourself

  • @xxlpulselxx
    @xxlpulselxxАй бұрын

    Please downshift Shrieking Affliction and The Rack so I can Paup off with Pauper 8 rack! I love 8 rack, it was the first modern deck I ever built

  • @jonathanvogels1690
    @jonathanvogels1690Ай бұрын

    They missed 2 damage from thoughtseize in the last game

  • @niklasbolz4267
    @niklasbolz4267Ай бұрын

    Nice games

  • @nailahprincessofhokuto2024
    @nailahprincessofhokuto2024Ай бұрын

    Lets go Love 8 Rack

  • @user-if4rj3hr1j
    @user-if4rj3hr1j17 күн бұрын

    that mono black and no joke

  • @kevind8184
    @kevind8184Ай бұрын

    why didnt Jamin unearth the leveler and attack for 8 ?

  • @GetMoneyMyrick
    @GetMoneyMyrickАй бұрын

    Flashbacks to me ruining everyone's fun in 2013 with those Raven's Crimes :)

  • @arnejoost4204
    @arnejoost4204Ай бұрын

    Nice!

  • @RobertPompaGaming
    @RobertPompaGamingАй бұрын

    Didn’t Jamin also have a cityscape leveler in the graveyard?

  • @rickyfriedchicken3548
    @rickyfriedchicken3548Ай бұрын

    god a one or two of sheoldred in that deck would be brutal

  • @jcal2.11
    @jcal2.11Ай бұрын

    carl just totally forgot to put jegantha i. his hand game 1 lol didnt matter ultimately but still

  • @udhh2619
    @udhh2619Ай бұрын

    Never underestimate a discard deck hehehehe

  • @trialbyicecream
    @trialbyicecream25 күн бұрын

    This video makes me want to play something besides commander.

  • @piinkydakiing6236
    @piinkydakiing623620 күн бұрын

    Just imagine if you have Urza Saga. That 8 rack turbo fast

  • @malte54
    @malte54Ай бұрын

    Why still mutavault instead of mishras factory?

  • @lotus_pdxg3586
    @lotus_pdxg3586Ай бұрын

    im pretty sure in the tron match when Thoralf's played the second rack it cant chose Jamin as an opponent as hes got pro everything and the rack says on play. correct me if im wrong

  • @jacobisbell9388

    @jacobisbell9388

    Ай бұрын

    You're wrong but by just reading the card's actual text you would be correct. Oracle text doesn't target it just chooses which is allowed with protection

  • @lotus_pdxg3586

    @lotus_pdxg3586

    Ай бұрын

    @@jacobisbell9388 ahhhh ty

  • @pdb189
    @pdb189Ай бұрын

    LET'S GO!

  • @ivandragovic5958
    @ivandragovic5958Ай бұрын

    Thought they were going for metamorph copy rack line after game 1 also came down to stealing rack pieces against toralf.

  • @motorboot2822
    @motorboot2822Ай бұрын

    I've had plenty of success with an even more budget 8rack list. Most opponents are helpless when topdecking!

  • @Sk8er0208
    @Sk8er02084 күн бұрын

    Why didn’t Jamin unearth the cityscape leveller?

  • @ServbotNumba40
    @ServbotNumba4021 күн бұрын

    It's like WotC current design trend, everyone is in a new hat

  • @percius9984
    @percius9984Ай бұрын

    15:31 Jamin would have won the game if he'd had metamorph become a copy of The Rack.

  • @TheDoctorVideos
    @TheDoctorVideosАй бұрын

    Could Jamin have unearthed cityscape leveler for game? @ 16:30

  • @kendrickvickers2610

    @kendrickvickers2610

    Ай бұрын

    idk, but he could have copied the rack and won with that

  • @allanturmaine5496
    @allanturmaine5496Ай бұрын

    That peasant was the king the whole time???

  • @patricklantz9208
    @patricklantz9208Ай бұрын

    Bump in the night

  • @Unforgiven215
    @Unforgiven215Ай бұрын

    17:00 Jamin could unearth Cityscape Leveler for lethal

  • @kendrickvickers2610

    @kendrickvickers2610

    Ай бұрын

    he could have also just copied the rack and won

  • @daviderde
    @daviderdeАй бұрын

    Didn't Carl have Delirium by the end of that last game? Or am I tripping

  • @fabio.n4458
    @fabio.n4458Ай бұрын

    actually an underdog gets promoted to an "updog" after a win.

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