A heavier flywheel doesnt make the motor perform worse. The power the engine puts out is still the same. But it revs slower and runs smoother. Which I'd prefer on a cruiser, TBH. TBH, I get the idea you're just rambling that Honda didn't cater to your specific needs and made a more standard cruiser. And since cruisers perform less than sporty nakes bikes (with which you compare them), your dislike the cruiser. Have you even seen a review of the new Rebel? That big 4 piston brake stops the bike more than adequately.

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

r Oy I’ve seen the reviews (or I should say Honda sponsored ride events). I’m not ragging on cruisers because I like a certain kind of bike, I’m ragging on them because they use inferior components and charge more money or the same and no progress is made to the class of bike. I have no doubt that this bike will perform great when compared to other cruisers and will fit right in. The point is the bike could have kept its low speed performance and feel and added better components that made the bike MUCH better for the same price. When a reviewer says “adequate “ brakes after riding the bike at a manufacturer sponsored event, it really means “these brakes could have been much better but I want to be invited back to ride next time”. Lol. Thanks for your comments.

@roy7602

3 жыл бұрын

@@sixthisoverdrive You say no progress is made, but what about the DCT? Also, I'd call it progress if Honda made a cruiser that's similar to a sportster & indian scout, but costs way less, plus has ABS, traction control, wheelie control(!) and the thingy where you dont have to hold the throttle (sorry, english's not my native language, so i dont know the right word). I'd call that progress :-D Also I haven't heard "adequate brakes" from the ride events. They actually said the brakes do a very good job. Plus, since last week some Rebels have been sold, too and the occasional YT-video pops up where people dont really fault the brakes. However yeah, I'll have to ride one myself before I criticize it, but I'm sure it'll be fine since I mostly use the rear brake when riding anyhow. Cheers mate!

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

r Oy you are right, the dct is something no one else has. That’s on me as even though it’s a really great system, I would never get it. I use my clutch for tight turns and parking lots, and am not used to how the auto tranny works. I did say I loved cruise control though.

I gave you a plus for the tank, its to small, but everything else about the engine, the dual clutch, ridermodes, "cheap" suspension and so on...you should first drive the bike before making any judgement. and next thing is - It's 10.000 Dollar for all of that. Stay real man, if they have done what you suggest, it would be a 18.000 Dollar bike.

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

Igor thanks for your comments. You are right, I should ride it, but I do have experience in cruisers and I feel like Honda was full filling a cruiser checklist instead of trying something a little different. If you look at the new classics like the XSR bonneyville and the z900RS they all have better components for the same price which allows them better handling. I have watched a few first ride videos and the guys (who get a special trip from Honda to try the bike and don’t want to spoil their chances at the next one) are saying the same things I am about the lean angle and suspension. I appreciate the comments. Cheers.

@Lazzarus1981

3 жыл бұрын

@@sixthisoverdrive z900rs costs 14.990 Euro in Austria, the Honda costs 11.990 with DCT. Maybe in Canada you have the same price. And if you compare the leaning angle to a Harley or Indian, it is definitely better, and not to mention the weight difference. Thx for answering, wish you a nice day!

imo I think to a point, you and many others are missing one of the main reasons Honda made the Rebel 1100. People who own the 300 and 500 Rebels no longer have to look to Indian, Harley, etc to find a more powerful bike in the style they like. The Rebel forums have been buzzing since the official announcement of it coming out this spring. I've read and watched the press reviews you mentioned but I've also read what the new owners are saying and it's going to be a huge hit for Honda. Yes the tank should be a little bigger and the muffler looks like crap. Aftermarket exhausts should be available anytime now. I didn't catch you mentioning that you can adjust the amount of engine braking you want or a few other things that can be set up. I am only assuming that is in the 4th mode where you set up your own personal mode.

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

63jafo You are correct about the customizable mode. You are also right about the muffler (which I usually scrap after driving home from the dealership. Also you are right about this being a hit. What I am trying to get into Honda and other manufacturers heads is that some of us want a cruiser that has the same components as other bikes in the same price range. There is no reason for this bike to have the brakes, suspension and lean angle that it does. As soon as you classify the bike as a cruiser the manufacturer dumbs it down and ups the price. Great to hear from you, thanks for the comments.

Why would anyone get the Rebel if they want an ADV, a Touring bike, a sport bike, or a huge full size cruiser? How does the Rebel specifically compare to the Shadow, Vulcan S, the Vulcan 900, The Bolt, the Boulevard 50, and the Sportster? I've considered the Rebel especially for what it is, a small affordable cruiser that I can easily roll around town, lane split in traffic, and has enough power to handle going about locally on the Freeways here in CA. I kind of understand where you're coming from with your complaint's but it seems you just want a different type of bike all together.

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

Front Desk Staff thanks for your comments. I wasn’t comparing those bikes at all, except to say that they were better built and had more of the quality components than cruisers do. I think that cruisers in general are over priced and for that price I would like a decent set of brakes and a decent suspension. I think that the manufacturers make more money on cruisers than any other bike. The bike is better than all the bikes you mentioned, but that isn’t saying much. I would much rather have a “new classic” instead of a cruiser. Thanks again for commenting and giving me something to think on.

I have the same XSR900 you have, even the 60th anniversary colour. Sometimes I don’t want to ride it. It’s not a chill bike. It’s twitchy throttle and huge torque means you have to pay attention. I am thinking of a cruiser for a chill ride. 13K is too much for me as a second bike, so I am leaning towards a Vulcan S 650, as it’s only 8K.

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

MrAl67 I have no problems with people wanting a chill ride (The z900RS would be much more of what you want). I do like the price on the Vulcan hope whatever you do makes you want to ride more! Cheers.

@MrAl67

3 жыл бұрын

@@sixthisoverdrive OK, you talked me into it! I just bought a 2019 Z900RS Cafe in metallic gray. I hope you are right! The XSR900 has been traded in. Hopefully someone else will enjoy it more.

Cruisers aren't comfortable? I personally felt the fat bob was comfortable and also low rider...if cruisers aren't comfortable then which segment is ??

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

sooraj sai good points and thanks for commenting. I guess I shouldn’t generalize. Some are, some aren’t comfortable. I’m just saying that the naked bikes, neo retro bikes, and sports touring are at least as comfortable. I get a lot of people stopping me and asking me on bike trips “how do you ride that thing on long trips. “. The truth is, it’s one of the most comfortable bikes I’ve ever ridden, and I’ve ridden ALOT of bikes. I just want people to know, especially new riders that there are other choices out there. Cheers.

@soorajsaikumar

3 жыл бұрын

@@sixthisoverdrive ok, but i think for me only sport's tourer and adv will be good because im tall. Im comfy sitting on m8 Softails, but my Sportster was not comfy and had to put some mini apes and forward controls.

Looks interesting.... It's only a matter of time before somebody slaps the turbo on there 😊

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

Donald Poe thanks for weighing in. I’m pretty sure this thing would hang with anything with those changes, and it shouldn’t up the price.

Honda left room for improvement. Soon we'll see exhausts and USD forks. A lower and wider tank would've been nice. More HP too. Good video

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

Scotty Carver I’m sure Honda has the capacity to improve this. Hopefully videos like this will push them in that direction. Thanks for the comments.

I agree with almost everything you said! The only reason I am considering getting this bike is because you can get it with a DCT. I'd be willing to pay a couple thousand more for it to have better suspension and brakes. Personally, I really like being able to set different riding modes.

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

Dolphin Ride that’s cool. I’ve never understood the appeal of automatic motorcycle, but obviously it’s popular for cars, so I could be the minority. I actually like a manual transmission for low speed manoeuvres. What I was trying to get across, is that there are other bikes in the same price range with way better components so you shouldn’t have to pay more. Appreciate the comments...cheers.

My feelings are exactly the same as your thoughts .

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

phillip wallace well...thanks for the support!

Yup

no way would I get this over a 2120 yamaha tracer. nice review.

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

foolish coyote. Thanks again mr. Coyote.

I love to look of the Harley Sportster I have but I put four grand into it so far just so I can keep up with my guys on sports bikes into the '90s... Still haven't address ed the suspension yet looking to upgrade bikes but don't want a 1,000-lb gorilla but it don't look like this is the one for me just yet... Still a nice looking bike though...

@soorajsaikumar

3 жыл бұрын

You put big bore kit for 4 grand?

@BlueDinnie

3 жыл бұрын

@@soorajsaikumar the S&S Hooligan kit Vance & Hines Fuel Pack 3 cobra speedster pipes & the Arlen Ness Big sucker air intake.

@soorajsaikumar

3 жыл бұрын

@@BlueDinnie nice, you can get some good numbers if you shed some weight..carbon parts and lightweight swingarm etc but it's better to get a 600cc-1000cc bike to ride with sport bike gang rather than spending 4k on the sportster.

@BlueDinnie

3 жыл бұрын

@@soorajsaikumar good points!

Drive it in sport and then give it a review. That thing is fast

@sixthisoverdrive

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty quick for sure...esp for a cruiser.

I'll have to agree with you on most or all those points. Honda seems to be missing a few things here. The shape of that thing looks radical. And the size. Certainly not for a tall rider. Look at those knees!! De-tuning the engine seems to tell me the rest of the bike is not up to the task of handling a powerful engine.

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

It angers me a bit that manufacturers degrade the components, call them cruisers then boost the price. Tahnks for your comments.

I'm sure honda will come out with a higher end rebel 1100 in a year or two.

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

Lambo6fo that would be nice.

The best Honda Rebel 1100 to get is... the next generation one.

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

Lol. I would love to see a good handling fast crusier in this price range. Thanks for your comments.

@jsprite123

3 жыл бұрын

@@sixthisoverdrive I wish it had more ground clearance. That cover thingy on the right extrudes too much, some people will start bumping against it with their right leg. And that weird, non-standard position for the horn and turning signals is kind of odd.

@paulstanley3265

3 жыл бұрын

@@jsprite123 Honda has it it there for many years now. Don’t know why they change it.I been riding Honda for years now and still have not got use to it ,I hit the horn for the turn signal all the time.

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

jsprite123 Honda will not learn their lesson either, as the average person starting out will think this is just what they need.

My KLR is more comfortable than a cruiser. Can ride my 2005 all day with no problems.

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

KLR is a crazy comfortable bike! Cheers.

Have you had the chance to ride the bike?.......what?no. Should experience it before talking nonsense.

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

abderrahmane atbi no I haven’t. I thought I said that in the video and the title I made sure that it was an overview, not a ride. I didn’t think I spoke nonsense saying that their were other bikes that had better components for less money. I think I even stated that it wasn’t just Honda that did this but cruisers in general. So I ask you...did you even watch the video. All kidding aside, I’m glad you took the time to share your opinion.

@flouss016

3 жыл бұрын

@@sixthisoverdrive truly appreciate you taking the time to reply. If I was Honda I will be upset at your driving (overdriving!?) the point that the bike is slow because it has a bigger flywheel. Nobody should make such predictions based on so little information. First how much bigger are we talking about? And bigger doesn't necessarily mean slower. We're talking angular momentum which is your moment of inertial (fleewheel) times your angular momentum (speed/torque of engine). So maybe one light flywheel can accelerate faster if we are only comparing two flywheels. If you connect a twin engine to it, you don't know how Honda engineers modified the engine to affect the overall bike behaviour, That's why one needs to ride the bike first and not make unproven prediction based on one component. People listen to you, it's your responsibility to be honest. I like your channel, maybe next video would be a video ride on the 1100 rebel

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

abderrahmane atbi I might just do that, just for the people who want to see what a sport rider like me thinks. I just want better components on cruisers...that’s all it comes down to. The review will be a while coming as we are still a foot under snow.

I have to agree w you as well. This bike has failed to impress me from the start. It’s looks is where they lose me. So many better looking bikes out there from the competition...get your act together Honda...keep up the great work. Cheers!

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

Norm Kennette thanks for the comments. I don’t mind the looks, (cept the exhaust). Hopefully your comments will spur on Honda to better things.

Very biased. The 300 and 500 have lots of great things, which make the 1100 a hit. Stick to your Yamaha. Don’t bother responding.

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

Jeferson Rojas Pena it’s my channel and I’ll respond if I want. Lol. It’s not the name on the bike it’s the fact that that it has poor braking, poor suspension and can’t corner...like just about every cruiser ever made. Thanks for your comments.

@oldstarouijaboard42

3 жыл бұрын

@@sixthisoverdrive Thats a lot of assumptions for someone who absolutely hasnt rode it. Just an FYI, i have rode it. This bike is not for large riders. Im a small rider, it dosnt scrape as much as a cruiser, the suspension is fine. I hope all the hate was worth your downvotes lmao. This isnt exactly Motorcycle journalism at its peak lmao

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

oldstar ouijaboard it’s not motor journalism at all! It’s me sharing my opinion which is...cruisers get the short end with components and charge more for a sub par bike. The Honda is probably Best in class, but that doesn’t make it a good value. Only compared to other cruisers.

@oldstarouijaboard42

3 жыл бұрын

@@sixthisoverdrive You're right, this isnt motorcycle journalism

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

oldstar ouijaboard are you just going to repeat the same phrase over and over? Congratulations, you have made me chuckle, thanks for your comments.

lol, more dislikes than likes

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

First time ever...must be a lot of loyal cruiser fanboys.

A review full of negativism... It doesn't recognise however that the better cruisres out there in terms of power, suspension, fun,... are AT LEAST twice as expensive. Obviously, you don't like cruisers. Try nevertheless to be more objective when making such a review 👎

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

Todor Todorov I thought I was being objective! Lol. Listen, I talked about the bike competing with and beating the Harley in performance, but that’s not the point. The XSR 900 is a grand cheaper has every option the rebel does, plus has an extra 20 hp, dual brakes up front, and better suspension as do other bikes. As soon as you put the name cruiser on a bike it’s a license to print money. I have no problem with cruiser riders, I have a problem with the manufacturer. Thanks for leaving your comments.

@todortodorov6178

3 жыл бұрын

@@sixthisoverdrive Nothing against Yamaha XSR900, in fact I own the 2020 model, great bike. Still, the Rebel 1100 sounds like a very competitive cruiser. Will wait and see how it rides, when the manual version I ordered arrives end of April 😁

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

Todor Todorov hey, I still think they raised the bar slightly. I just wished that they upped the components. This overview was more about manufacturers fitting the bikes with better components, not just with what they can get away with.

Haha nda missed the point entirely, the Vulcan 650 s showed that people don't want heavy flywheels and rough idle when they can have modern engines ...they should never have touched the engine and put it in at 100hp...if they had done that they would have blown HARLEY DAVIDSON out of existence!!!

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

Throttlesnap just think...it’d be a sleeper. Quick shifter up and down, good set of front brakes and a sports suspension. Your friends riding nakeds would be trying to figure out why they can’t lose you. Cheers.

@ausforce1

3 жыл бұрын

@@sixthisoverdrive exactly! That's what the modern rider wants...if the japanese manufacturer's ever snap out of their delusional idea that people want Harley Davidson handling and brakes and low HP they would realize all they need to do to take over the cruiser market is build good handling braking and stick in their modern performance engines ! Just like all their other bikes. No one wants a 300kg cruiser that needs thousands of dollars spent on the engine before it can even make a pathetic 100hp.

@easy8077

3 жыл бұрын

Who drives Vulcans tho? ... Especially now that the big Rebel is there, now it's really only a question of budget, lol

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

B.E.St. Lol...you just answered your own question.

@easy8077

3 жыл бұрын

@@sixthisoverdrive yeah, exactly - noone