I appreciate you opinion and thanks for sharing. I almost believed you and didn't get my DCT Rebel. I'm so glad I didn't. Picked it up this week and it's amazing. I hate manual cars and now I hate manual bikes. You should really learn how to set the DCT in the user setting to max and it'll hold the gears. Or better yet use the paddle shifters when it needs to be changed. It's a masterpiece. Long live the Honda DCT!

I have a manual and my girlfriend has the automatic and I’ve ridden hers just to see what dct is like and hers is super smooth shifting to the point I was really impressed. You almost certainly have something wrong with yours. I would take it to the dealership and have the trans looked at because my girlfriends 1100 dct shifts like a Cadillac. I would definitely have that looked at.

@theperson7718

2 жыл бұрын

The only thing wrong with her bike is the owner. She's just been used to a manual for so long that she can't grasp something new and foreign to her. I own a 2017 Honda CTX700 with the DCT and it shifts like butter. Sure it clunks into gear and during shifts but that's just the nature of the DCT being a geared automatic over clutches found in vehicles. I think it's so sad to see bikes get bad reviews by diseased people like this just cause they can't wrap there heads around new technology.

@DanGilman

Жыл бұрын

Came here to say this exact same thing, I worked at a local shop where we had a NC750 trade-in with a defective DCT/traction control that "clunked", previous owner got it used as/is and wanted rid of it, turns out it was was an easy fix for Honda, but we ended up taking a slight loss reselling it. It shouldn't clunk unless it's got a defective damaged clutch or traction control, thumping clunking and clicking are all the sounds those make when they're bad usually, or just wind up in D without giving you power in any setting.

@DanGilman

Жыл бұрын

That being said, not everyone likes the DCT even when they're working perfectly. I'm a big dude and they feel scootery and I've never drove anything above the 750 but it is deceptive because every scooter I've been on I could just whip that throttle and bog it down and go, you do that on anything over a 500 even though everything in your brain is going "This is a scooter! Do the scooter rules!" and you're gonna have a bad day. lol

@larifari4371

Жыл бұрын

@ Humvee Guy The dct on the 700 or 750 in europe is WAY smoother. I got both and hate only the rebel for it. Cheers

@larifari4371

Жыл бұрын

@ Dan Gilman How did you fix it?

I've had mine for 2 weeks now and 250 miles and so far nothing but a great experience buttery smooth gear changes, plenty of power, comfortable ride.

@mcSal

2 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear! I'm still planning to do a DCT reset on mine to see if it shifts smoother afterwards.

The Honda DCT bikes are masterpieces. I own one for four years now. If you are not willing to get used to it, it will probably never work for you. There are so many professional bikers who tested them in the last years and they are all positive impressed.

@rubensahak9178

3 жыл бұрын

you are delusional.

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

I will ride it a while longer and see if the shifting gets smoother. This is my first time with a DCT, and the differences are quite noticeable to all of our group. I was standing in a parking lot yesterday when a Goldwing DCT came cruising past. The Goldwing had to have downshifted when it came in, but I couldn't hear any shifting or see any difference, which tells me it was very smooth. That's not my bike. I've had riders riding their bikes behind my Rebel 1100 DCT, and they could hear the clunky shifting and didn't like it. I'm going to look at the DCT reset. I'm sure the DCT is a positive game changer for many. Apparently, not for me.

@BONESEEKER-js3gw

3 жыл бұрын

The DCT are indeed masterpieces. They are definitely different, but 100% worth it

@BKKfreak

3 жыл бұрын

I've got the Honda CTX DCT First time I tried it, I thought it was clunky. Now? I love it... I'll be buying the Rebel 1100cc DCT later this year. I heard a rumour American bikes are limited to 100mph... My 650cc (in Thailand) goes faster than that.

@skootagal

3 жыл бұрын

Yup, I love my DN01. “If I’ve got to change gears with paddles, why not just give me a clutch?” Because some bozo cleaned me up on a roundabout and my left hand has sustained permanent pain and nerve damage. I can’t be sure that I can reliably and consistently squeeze a clutch. Thank the heavens for DCT! Without it, I would not still be riding. This entire review is a whinge that the Rebel 1100 DCT isn’t what the reviewer is used to, and she states it often. Nobody likes what they aren’t familiar with. It took me a while to get comfortable with, but I love my old beast now, even the gear change clunk at 84kmph... I’m glad you bought a manual model too. Send the reject my way...I’ll give it the love it deserves 🥰

This is really an unfair review. This bike is fantastic!!! DCT is great. Like any bike you have to get used to her and know her behavior that is the beauty of riding a bike. I own the DCT. 250 miles and so far is great.

@ganuvien

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, a lot of bikes have clunky shifting. Was she in rain mode, sports mode? Bad throttle control maybe?

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

It was in Standard initially, then Sport mode. Sport mode was much better than Standard. I will try User mode with some adjustments. The DCT is definitely different than riding with a manual transmission, and has its own learning curve. I hope the video conveyed that riders used to a manual transmission will need to make adjustments to their riding habits with a DCT. I'm glad your bike makes you so happy! Ride safe.

Thank you for the interesting review, but I'm still gonna buy the DCT.. I'm a bit of a Rebel! ;)

@gsin311

2 жыл бұрын

I dont think women shud be reviewing dct bikes lol, thT clunk clunk sound is also heard when you shift gears with a fucking clutch. So whats the difference

@brentbradley6711

2 жыл бұрын

Don't listen to her.

@Autism-Forums

2 жыл бұрын

Make sure to be like this gal that buys an automatic but doesn’t like it shifting by itself… lmao no wonder women don’t get taken seriously anywhere where it’s worth it lol why won’t this automatic bike be a manual

@Amory98

2 жыл бұрын

The DCT on all Honda bikes is butter smooth. Go with it without second thoughts!

It's a DCT, you are not supposed to throttle off when changing gear, the computer will manage that for you. Just squish it.

The shifting depends upon the mode you are in. Lower response in rain better response in standard and sport. Everyone I know, once the get used to it, loves it.

Have the trans reset. It should be super smooth. Also the DCT learns your riding style after you ride it for awhile. My NC DCT doesn’t shift at all like it did when I first got it.

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

That is amazing!

Thank you for making the video. I actually love the DCT on my Rebel. I remember when the BMW M3 sports cars came out with them. It’s designed for maximum flexibility. In soft riding it’s to be effortless and extremely snappy under extreme riding. Pulling out of the corner you can adjust the shift aggressiveness in the user mode. Also if you don’t use the user mode you can manually downshift 2 gears rapidly since it’s a hydraulically controlled dual clutch and gear down rapidly to pull yourself through with the throttle. In reality the DCT is actually the future in sport riding. I frankly think it’s amazing that Honda has incorporated it in an awesome sport cruiser platform.

I have dct Africa twin and it’s super smooth , when moving off or riding slow , use the foot brake more instead of thinking clutch slip , it takes practice

Manual transmissions clunk every time you shift them as well you just don't really notice it because you're using your foot to make the noise. The Honda DCT is one of the smoothest shifting transmissions in the world. Manual mode is there so you can shift when you want. you put it in manual mode when you're doing aggressive riding and automatic mode when you aren't. Regarding the snatchy throttle. Not being used to something and trying to use it in a manner that isn't designed for is not really fault of the machine. If someone has a problem because they are trying to use a clutch that isn't there that's kind of that person's problem

@DoRC

2 жыл бұрын

@Beijing Biden totally different transmission style. Standard automatic transmissions use clutches and bands to engage and disengage gears. There is no shifting done internally.

Really seems like all your gripes are akin to just learning a new bike with new tech. I didn't feel any clunkiness on the one I test rode and we went into twisties with mountainous roads. The Africa twin has a reset that may work with this as well.

Thanks for the Great honest review - I test drove DCT at dealer last weekend since they didn't have manual demo bike...I also found gear changes where I wouldn't personally change if I was on a manual (but gear changes must've been smoother than yours with less chunkiness)...definitely, had issue with the peg bracket too - my foot kept landing on it & didn't know why until made a complete stop & I looked down...if there was a gear lever there i might get frustrated with it in the future...btw, you're the first KZreadr I found that mentioned this detail - & I watched a lot of reviews on this bike (manual & DCT versions) cuz I'm considering buying one.

@Grandmasterjord

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve never had the clunky shifts she is talking about personally. I LOVE this bike with the DCT. She has definitely had more riding experience than me though. But I am also coming off of a 2020 Triumph Rocket 3. A 2500cc monster. Haha I love almost everything about this bike WAY more than even the Rocket. Especially the amazing handling.

When you blindly buy an automatic, but you neither understand how an automatic works nor you understand how to operate it, ... you get this.

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

You're right. I thought the shifting would be more quiet and seamless as an automatic/automated. I do hope that those watching the video understand coming from a manual transmission bike or an electric bike, they will need to make adjustments in how they ride the DCT.

@michaelm.6016

3 жыл бұрын

@@mcSal ya. Love automatic. DCT is clunky. Right about that. Gonna go electric

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelm.6016 I have the Zero SR/S and it is sooooo Amazing!! It truly is a thrill to ride. But... big but... they need to improve the battery life beyond 100 miles.

@michaelm.6016

3 жыл бұрын

@@mcSal I know. That's what stopped me from forking over the cash. Zero makes great bikes though. Just cant justify the price tag for a commuter. I love to ride in the mountains. Torque has to be exhilarating. Was looking at Enegica Esses Plus. New one gets Great range, but the bike weight close to 600lbs! I cant sacrifice maneuverability at low speeds

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelm.6016 Zero SR/S torque IS amazing and instant at any speed. It can go 126 mph, and the guys have done it. The suspension is also amazing. It is so smooth, steady, and ergonomics are fabulous at 516#. I don’t know about other brands.

This is automatic maam, what to expect. But thanks for sharing

I have been driving motorcycles with a clutch for 55 years but recently had to sell my Harley due to bad arthritis in my left hand and leg - so needed to take a chance on the DCT. Love your comments and agree with all the points you raise especially how it takes time to get used to the throttle by wire and how the automatic reacts at slow speeds - you need to practice low speed maneuvering or you will dump the bike I guarantee. For erratic shifting you may just need to reset the DTC module - but I always drive in manual mode so I can control the RPM and shifting - shifting at higher RPM is very smooth and responsive. and I choose the gear going in and coming out of curves.Overall great fan of the bike. PS I removed the foot peg protectors 4 minutes after picking up the bike.

I've really enjoyed your well made bike reviews and comparisons. Thanks for taking the time to relay your observations to everyone. It's a great help. I bought a Rebel 1100 DCT two months ago. I came from a CVT large maxi-scooter.. The DCT was quite different from the smooth shifting cvt, and it did feel somewhat clunky for about two weeks. Once I got used to it, and how to finesse the throttle in each mode, the bike is a smooth shifting dream of a motorcycle. I would be more patient with it, but if you got the Zero, it will be just as good or better.

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I'm glad you are enjoying your DCT! At least you know what I mean. I have so many other bikes to ride, that I don't ride the DCT solid, so I really notice the shifting difference. And yes, the Zero is Awesome!! So smoooooth! I think the Zero SR/S and it's extreme smoothness really made the 1100 DCT shifting more noticeable. That will be a fun comparison!

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

And... Thank you so much for sharing your experience with the DCT & maxi-scooter!

I really admire your love for motorcycles and your wish for others try your motorcycles. That's great. I think you will be a perfect motorcycle instructor. If I were in west coast, I would certainly visit your place.

I came off of a VFR800DLX because I’m tired of sport bikes, and i love my rebel 1100 DCT. The DCT is fantastic, I don’t feel “clunkiness.” my Ninja 650 and old sportster clunked way harder than this thing, the ninja was snatchier as well. it also shifts very quickly and even if its in too high of a gear it has enough torque to pull hard enough anyway, can also downshift with the paddles and its instant, maybe she has a defective model thats not shifting right? the reason she doesn’t hear much negativity is because there isn’t much, the bike is nearly perfect except the lack of factory accessories that are actually available. I would love to see honda put DCTs on more bikes.

Thank you for sharing your video. I just picked up my Rebel 1100 DCT a few days ago. I have been an avid rider for many years. This is my 4th Honda. I totally love this bike.

Sounds like you love, love, love manual bikes. Weird that you bought a DCT and gave up all your favorite features. My Africa Twin DCT is just fantastic. Very happy with it.

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

I thought I would love it, because I love the Zero SR/S. It didn't work out that way.

amazing video even still today. Thanks

@mcSal

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Thank you for the video. i was about to order one DCT version

thanks for your honest feedback!!!! much love

Yes I agree about the foot clearence with the peg but the DCT is awesome

Hi great review. I have the DCT 750x and it does exactly what yours does and I often ride it dribbling around town. After a while it exhibits the same issues of clunky gears changes and also seems to be in too higher gear. The solution on my bike is simple and very effective , just reset the dct it’s straight forward and the bike is transformed immediately. After the reset the clunking gear changes are almost eliminated and the bike shifts into the right gear all the time including pulling out of bends.

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Good to hear I'm not alone. Lol. Thank you for sharing great information! I will be checking out how to do a DCT reset.

@Gabbottube

3 жыл бұрын

@@mcSal Thanks for the reply 😀👍👍 This is how it works on my NC, fast forward towards the end of the vid, very simple procedure , I’ve kept it on the notes on my iphone to save looking it up. Let me know how it goes 😃 kzread.info/dash/bejne/hYimmriCaKeoZZM.html

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

@@Gabbottube ​Thank you so much! That video talks about the clunky DCT shifting and how to reset the DCT for smoother shifting. I feel validated! I'm going to try it. Thank you!

@Gabbottube

3 жыл бұрын

@@mcSal excellent 😃👍👍

If you ride longer, you would learn how to ride with DCT, i can control the shifts with my throttle. It was a learning curve for me but now i love my R1100 DCT.

@pcofranc

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks because I really want to get this for my next bike with DCT. Currently riding an NC700X manual.

@robertosantos7839

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe if u put her in manual shift mode & used the "paddles" on the left-hand controls? Maybe that would help because you'd decide when to shift. Just a thought. ✌🏽🍀👊🏽

@InChristJesus87

3 жыл бұрын

@@pcofranc you’ll love the DCT it’s truly the future. Reminds me so much of the BMW M Sports cars. Just takes that 1100 to another level. It’s awesome.

I only hear it drop when shifting into 2nd, and the user mode has an option to adjust the shifting. I have my DCT setting all the way up and NEVER shift above 4th while cruising at 32. The corners take some getting used to, but like I said it sounds like a DCT setting issue. Sorry you hate the bike but I love mine and I've already put 1500+ miles in a month:D Great video though.

Sorry you are having that “clunking” between gears. I have a 2020 Goldwing DCT and a Rebel 1100 DCT and have not experienced that problem. You can’t even feel the shifting when it shifts. I think there might be something wrong with that bike. I’ve been riding for over 50 years, always with the a clutch, and did find the DCT a turn off when I initially heard about it. After riding a Gold Wing DCT I bought it and haven’t looked back. That’s why I bought this DCT Rebel 1100. You are right about the throttle being a little twitchy, especially in slow cornering, but I can deal with it using a little rear braking while slow speed turning. Also, I totally agree with your assessment about the foot pegs. The positioning sucks. Overall I like the way the bike looks and love the way it runs, especially in “Sport” mode. You better have a good hand on the bars when you twist that throttle.

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

You are not the first to mention having an 1100 DCT with smooth shifting. Looks like I need to schedule a maintenance day with the dealership. Thank you for sharing your observations! I just spoke with one of our group tonight, and he said he could hear the clunk each time the 1100 DCT shifted when he rode his bike behind it on a ride. I also love how the 1100 looks, it sits well, and I love the power. Yes, when it takes off, hang on tight! Thank you!

That's a shame, mine shifts seemlessly with no clunky DCT engagment. There's a tutorial to reset the DCT for the Africa Twin engine somewhere on youtube, I wonder if that would solve your problem.

@JimmySnakes

3 жыл бұрын

Btw look at that beautiful weather behind you, I wish I had that here!

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

Wow! That could help. Thank you for that piece of gold information!

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

@@JimmySnakes yes, California is mostly beautiful. Where are you?

@JimmySnakes

3 жыл бұрын

@@mcSal I'm in upstate NY... for every 1 good day of weather there's still 6 others where it's freezing or snowing. Fingers crossed I can start riding on the daily soon : )

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

Towards Sacramento area

Hey Sal, really great points. We get more confidence when we manage the bike with clutch. I am waiting for my Rebel manual. I really like windshield you installed, it looks great.

Pretty surprised about the concerns you had with the 1100. Great content as always, Sal 😁

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I was very surprised by the 1100 DCT. I thought I would love it, but not the case.

@henryrevitajr

3 жыл бұрын

@@mcSal it's a very new approach to cruiser bikes, so it's not surprising that it's got these flaws. I know it'll improve in time. Until then, you've got two of my dream bikes (the other one is the Rebel 500 😆)

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

@@henryrevitajr I do love the 1100 manual transmission that I recently purchased. And I always love the Rebel 500, too.

@henryrevitajr

3 жыл бұрын

@@mcSal oh Bless you 😁 and Bless these beautiful bikes hahaha 😄

Every reviewer said the DCT shifting UP/DOWN was smooth as butter across all the Honda models. I just talked with another Rebel 1100 DCT owner and all he heard was the change in RPM when it shifts. No clunking. I think the one you had is probably a bad copy.

@kalanivalentine

2 жыл бұрын

same all ive heard was good new i respect her opinion but im still gonna get it

@Sean-yk2cf

2 жыл бұрын

@@kalanivalentine Did you get it? how do you like the DCT

@Grandmasterjord

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sean-yk2cf I got one a few days ago. I love it! It’s amazing. No regrets! And that’s from someone coming off of a Rocket 3 with 2500cc and 140+ hp. 😂 This thing handles like a dream!

@motovlogjoni

2 жыл бұрын

You can reset DCT and would be fine

Thank you! I definitely will not get the DCT! I need control, and your report proved my control would be absent! Thank you!

@mcSal

2 жыл бұрын

You do have control if you use the paddles to downshift when you would want to downshift. But if I need to use the paddles, I may as well get the manual… which I did.

I've got a NC700X with DCT (for around town) and a Kawasaki Concours C-14 for the highway. I've got enough miles on the DCT Honda to be used to it, although switching back and forth can actually be kinda dangerous if you're just daydreaming - like forgetting you have to shift the manual C-14 down and pull in the clutch when coming to a stop, or, worse, forgetting to shift into 1st at a stop and trying to take off in 3rd or 4th gear and stalling in the intersection. I bought the DCT after screwing up my left foot because it really hurt to shift. 3 years later and I can shift now OK but I'm really considering getting the Rebel 1100 DCT and selling the C-14, so I won't have to switch back and forth (getting old and forgetful). Anyway - change is always hard.

Sal you are my 4 cyl spirit animal! Excellent review and you claim exactly why I do not trust DCT drive..I prefer control whether its engaging clutch or disengaging the clutch, I want to be in control especially going INTO a curve or coming OUT from a curve...The Honda Rebel 1100 is a well built machine but when you told me several people dropped the bike that cemented the deal..Its not for everyone and I ride a Honda Magna V4 monster! LOL.. p.s. I cannot imagine riding a Honda Goldwing DCT..No way! Its a beautiful bike but, give me CLUTCH!!!

I dig the new color. Hope they will release that color in my country

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

I hope so, too, because it's Beautiful!!

@capurafarol

3 жыл бұрын

I love the burgundy. Hard to find matching helmet colors. I found you have to find wine as a helmet color to match. Dark Red or even burgundy, doesn’t quite match.

It sounds like a programming issue...should shift smoothly. I’d talk to the dealership about checking it out.

Patience pays off

@dennisk154

3 жыл бұрын

Is the DCT still for sale? How do you like the zero?

First of all a great video. I own the red DCT just like yours. A couple of things I agree with is the foot peg issue. Ok and the the sixth gear issue on curves. I have trained myself to manually down shift coming out of a twisty if I need the extra power. I made a user mode setting that works very well with my riding habits. You should try that. The only clunk I ever hear is the first to second gear. Not a issue with me. It looks like you are not in a city traffic area. The DCT is amazing in city traffic or if your at a light and want to stretch without hunting for neutral. I feel like this bike is perfect for me. That's why I Love my 2021 Honda Rebel 1100 DCT.

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comments! I am thrilled that you love your bike so much! You're right. I'm way out in a rural area. I also think it would be great for stop & go city traffic. That's just not what I have around me. We all need to find the right bike(s) that make us the happiest.

@russellschroeder3

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve had a red DCT model since mid Feb, have run it for about 1500 miles and love it as well. The short gearing is an issue in Rain or Standard mode. I set up my User mode at Power 3, TC 1, EB 1, and D at 3 (difference from Sport is less engine braking…find it less ‘snatchy’ rolling of throttle) and find gear changes happen at much higher speeds. My shifts are also buttery smooth, none of the ‘clunking’ described in the video. It’s definitely a different experience vs. a manual transmission and if you’ve never used a DCT after long years of riding, it’s going to take some adjustment. That being said, mine is used mostly to commute around town and riding through traffic with a DCT is such a joy comparatively.

I test drove a dct Africa Twin, and i own a manual one. The dct is fantastic imho. The instructor told us you need to ride it for some time to learn how to use it properly, and you HAVE to use the manual shift buttons, it's there for a reason. I absolutely used it to up and downshift, just as if I was riding with a manual. Just use the appropriate engine map: on the Africa it was Sport2.

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the great info!

Got my 2024 dct a couple weeks ago. No complaints especially in the city stop and go driving

I have DCT on my NC750x, Africa Twin and my new Rebel. Never had issues with them. took the AT on some rough trails, rode the Rebel from Louisiana to Colorado and back, no issues. I use my NC as my around town pack mule/grocery getter. Still never had issues with it.

@mcSal

2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you are happy with your DCTs. Either mine is needing a DCT reset, or it needs more break in time to smooth out more, or the DCT may not be for me. It really is a different way to ride vs. the Manual transmission. Was your Rebel 1100 DCT smooth shifting from the start? Or did it need a break in period? I've saw a Goldwing DCT where I couldn't tell it was shifting at all, it just did it. I thought I was going to get that with the Rebel 1100 DCT, so I'm curious how smooth shifting yours was brand new off the lot. Thanks.

@Gibsonfan1989

2 жыл бұрын

@@mcSal mine was smooth from the start, NC750X was too. The Africa Twin did have a break in period, I'd say about 500-1000 miles until I realized it was shifting better. DCT has spoiled me though. I now have a VTX1800 that rarely moves lol

The DCT takes some getting used to. I have an Africa Twin Adventure Sports with DCT and I love most everything about it. There are some good videos about riding with the DCT and how the back brake creates that friction zone you loose without the clutch. I ride a lot in drive mode which gives you the greatest gas mileage but yes in that mode you will be in too high a gear into a turn and have to use the paddle shifters to correct. However recently on one of my favorite twisty roads I tried the sport modes and what a difference. Sport mode 2 had the bike up shifting and down shifting just as I would do it with a clutch. My issues with the Africa Twin are the high seat height and the bike being very top heavy. Other than that it is great. After riding with the DCT for a while I think I would love the Rebel with DCT and the low seat height!

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your great thoughts. Sports mode is definitely better than Standard mode. I think you would love the Rebel 1100 with its low seat height and great ergonomics (not top heavy).

I have had the same bike as yours and I love it after riding bikes for 58 years.

Great Videos!

1. U bought it w/out a test drive. 2. It is totally a different bike. Auto, not manual. Ride it like an auto. 3. Bikes not to blame. Live & learn. 😊🍀

“I Loooooove when people tryout my bikes.” “In the first week 2 people dropped it.”

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

Right?!

Sounds like it is working as intended, don't get the auto if you want to choose what gear your in.

@longhornpb

3 жыл бұрын

All the things she said was symptoms of a person who don't know how to handle a DCT.

@theimmortalgriffithdavion1592

3 жыл бұрын

@@longhornpb I agree... she clearly doesn't understand what she bought.

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

True. I didn't realize the DCT is a different riding style.

@theimmortalgriffithdavion1592

3 жыл бұрын

@@mcSal It very much is. I will say that I'm hearing a lot of other reviewers agree with you about the throttle though, on both the DCT and Manual versions.

@tangysquid

3 жыл бұрын

@@theimmortalgriffithdavion1592 I have a DCT and the throttle is definitely sensitive at low RPMs. Trying to hold it at 15 or 20 MPH can be a challenge especially without a clutch and with engine braking set high. The shifting, however, has been fine for me when I put the mode to standard. It never seems to be in the wrong gear. In rain mode, yes, gets to 6 early and stays there. But in Standard mode its much better. I will be playing with the custom user mode to tweak it to my liking. Standard is pretty darn close.

Thank you!!

I installed leg gear shifter on my GW DCT and operate it just like on a regular bike. But in most cases I do downshift only, never up.

Not everything is built perfect, but I do like the fact that you pointed out some of the flaws. It’s good to know.

After two back surgeries my left foot is basically paralyzed. I can’t shift manually anymore! Thank God for DCT!

@mcSal

2 жыл бұрын

I’m sorry about your foot, but the DCT should be a great bike for you! I can see a lot of value with it. I’m just not a fan. But that doesn’t negate its value to others. Ride safe.

Thanks! Nice report!

To power out of the curve just click the downshift button with your left thumb. You say you are "just sharing your experience " but you don't have any with the DCT. If you had the bike in Sport mode instead of std mode you would have all the power you keep asking for. Ignorance is not knowing what you don't know.

@speedgraphic

3 жыл бұрын

@@Rockingmyfifties What is the imperfection if you're riding in manual mode on the DCT? Serious question, I have 20k twisty Colorado miles on my CTX700ND and I can't determine a downside to it.

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

@Shawn Harty Thank you for the tip. But I did mention clicking the downshift button, which does work well. And I also said if I wanted to shift it myself, I would rather get a manual transmission, which I then did. But to say I have no experience with the DCT would suggest I don't have the DCT. I do have it, and relayed my thoughts on it after minimal owning exposure (3 weeks). They are valid thoughts and things to be aware of for any rider going from a manual transmission to the Rebel 1100 DCT for the first time. The bike has tons of power and torque, which is great. I just found the shifting clunky on my DCT. Not everyone will agree on my 5 points, but they hopefully raise an awareness in those looking to get the DCT so they go in with their eyes wide open and no surprises. You are correct. Ignorance is not knowing what you don't know. Life is all about constant learning and adaption, which is what we are all doing. We put out videos and/or watch videos so we may all continue to learn, adapt and form our own opinions.

@shawnharty955

3 жыл бұрын

@@mcSal the best thing you could do is apologize for writing a review based on nothing and rewrite your review after 6 months with the DCT.

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

@@shawnharty955 As a general rule, I don't apologize for the truth. But thank you for your concern. I may take your advice and do a 6 month review, if I still have it. I am enjoying the 1100 manual version so much more than the 1100 DCT, and bikes are all about putting a smile on each rider's face. Ride safe.

I bought the manual. Are you happy with the windshield, or do you wish you had the wing? If you like the windshield, why?, and where did you get it, and how much?

@mcSal

2 жыл бұрын

I do like the windshield. It has two wing nuts that need constant tightening, or use Loctite to secure them. Other than that, it's great. I've purchased 4 of these windshields: two for Rebel 500's and two for Rebel 1100's. I got them on Amazon. They are Slipstreamer SS-24-C. They can also be purchased online from other places as Slipstreamer SS-24 Hellfire Cruiser Windscreen. After I put the windshield on the Rebel 1100 DCT, I tested it on the freeway. I had it up to 98 mph (157.7 kmh) with no issues.

I had a 700NCXD and never noticed a clunk when it shifted and haven't seen any other complaints about that (NC, Africa Twin, Rebel or Goldwing) that I recall. You may be especially sensitive to the DCT shifting and getting rid of it is your best option. Or there may be a problem with your particular Rebel 1100. I'd take it back to the dealer and ask them to test ride it and look for Honda TSB's (technical service bulletins) on DCT equipped bikes for similar problems. If it is a known problem and they fix it, you will be doing who ever buys it from you a favor.

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate your comments. There could very well be an issue with my 1100 DCT. I will follow up on some of your suggestions. Thank you!

automatic what do we expect manual? there is a manual version why choose dct. I will still go for DCT

I have one put about 900 miles on it and I love it to death if you put it in normal mode it's just smooth as can be sport mode you feel a grab every gear hard

Wow you’re 100% right I bought the rebel 1100 DTC today and I kind of wish I didn’t but hopefully it will grow on me

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

It will grow on you as you get used to it. The Rebel 1100’s are great bikes. The DTC just takes some getting used to, unless you have prior experience with a DTC. In my experience, every bike has things to love, and things you would like to change. Enjoy and ride safe!

@Jkwak30

3 жыл бұрын

@@mcSal Thanks I’ve been riding all day Starting to get used to it but still miss my clutch

Folks, this review is based purely on a subjective opinion. Don’t let this put you off from considering a DCT version. Do more research or take a test ride if you can, and make your own judgment.

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@richardyee4619

Жыл бұрын

I don’t get why her first complaint was lack of manual clutch when she bought an automatic. I thought it was a joke but then realize she was serious.

@coronalight77

Жыл бұрын

A poor opinion by a cluless wannabe rider

Thanks Sal...great to get a straight opinion. Did you try sports mode though ? Makes a big difference on my NC750X. All the best from jolly old England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I started in Standard mode, then switched to Sport mode. It does ride much better in Sport mode. Still clunks when it shifts, though. I'm glad you enjoy your NC750X! Ride safe.

Thank you for his valuable information. They won’t let me test ride it. I am fairly a new rider.

@mcSal

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I hope you get the bike you want.

My dct doesn't make any weird noise or anything when shifting. Something is prolly wrong with it. Also sport mode constantly keeps me high up in the powerband so I don't know why she is getting stuck in 6th gear using sport mode. You can fix the touchy throttle by using the user mode and keeping everything the same as sport mode but lowering the power setting to 2. It will be less snatchy but still full power if u twist it all the way.

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

I have tested every mode except User, and have liked Sport mode the best so far. Thank you for the tips! I'll set up User mode per your comments. I had a rider riding his bike behind the DCT on a ride, and he hates the DCT simply because he could hear it clunking ahead of him each time it shifted. It's not just my imagination! I erroneously assumed this was a common thing with the Rebel 1100 DCT's. It is good to know so many others have no clunky shifting issues. Thank you!

If you're going through the twisties use the paddle shift and down shift going into the curves.

I think this is a fair review. The lack of control, when and where you need it, can be off putting.

Do you put the best gas (high quality, highest octane) in the bike? Low quality gas might make the slugging/jerk worse!

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I use Premium (best) gas in all the bikes.

@xikefocus

3 жыл бұрын

@@mcSal Also check if they have firmware update to improve the shifting.

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

@@xikefocus I will check. Thanks.

Great honest review on the DCT and explanation of real world issues with the design of the bike. Now I'm glad I got a Vulcan 650 instead of this bike, but I will surely get a manual rebel 1100 in the future when the used market picks up the bike.

@Grandmasterjord

2 жыл бұрын

As someone who owned a Vulcan S 650 for two years and rode it almost every day, including long trips, and test rode ANOTHER one literally a day before riding the Rebel 1100 DCT, let me tell you, it’s night and day. I love the Vulcan. Was thinking of getting another one too but the Rebel has it beat in every single way when it comes to ride quality, tech, WAY better in handling too. You really owe it to yourself to try and get one of these amazing bikes. DCT or not. Doesn’t matter. Haha I will say the Vulcan has a more comfortable seating position and seat (as long as you got the extended reach seat). Oh and I haven’t had half of the issues she mentioned. No clunkiness and no issues with the foot guard thing. The other stuff is just a byproduct of the DCT that takes getting used to. Once used to it, it lets you enjoy the ride without worrying about rev matching and getting a tired left hand in traffic.

@Kamdorian

2 жыл бұрын

@@Grandmasterjord yea I am very tempted to test ride the rebel. I think if I have a vulcan 650 and rebel then I am set for life on bikes. However I do miss the v twin harley exhaust sound so maybe I need 3 bikes lmao. The rebel is hard to find in my area and dealers rarely allow test rides. Wish they had a test riding event for the public.

@mikemccormick8115

9 ай бұрын

Read my comment above. When you get this bike you will love it.

I love my 1100 DCT but I figured out that you can put the DCT setting on the user mode on max and it will upshift much later. The paddle shifters fine tune my shifts if I want later or sooner.

how is the suspension on the bike? Especially the rear? Do you feel a jolt thru your lower back every time you hit a bump on the highway? I had a CTX700 and got rid of it because there was no much rear wheel travel.

@mcSal

2 жыл бұрын

Rear suspension is a bit soft, which works well for me, but probably not as good for a heavier rider. The Rebel 1100 has a more compact rider triangle like the Rebel 500, so a tall or big rider is probably going to feel cramped on it anyway.

I am so glad I got the manual. You are correct. I put my foot on that stupid raised part on left. The Dual Rebel is dangerous without a clutch.

Thank you. :)

I LOVE THESE BIKES , going to get one!

Honesty at first thank you. By the way where did you buy this huge nice screen.

Where did you get your windshield? What brand?

Sal, where did you buy your windshield? I was going to buy the DCT version, but I changed my mind after doing some research. My manual version is supposed to come in soon. Maybe a week or two. I can't wait.

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

The windshield is listed in the video description. It is a SlipStreamer generic cruiser windshield from Amazon. You're going to LOVE your new bike!

Great Post, one Question, does the engine on the 500 Rebel get in the way of you leg?

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

No, neither the 500 or 1100 gets in the way at all for me. But the 1100's engine does get in the way for my daughter who has shorter legs.

How’s your bike now? You are getting used to it or sell it? Want to hear that update.😊

@mcSal

Жыл бұрын

I’m about to put it on the market and sell it. It has gotten better with miles, but I still don’t like it. After also getting a Honda quad DCT, I realize I just don’t enjoy the DCTs. Some people like them, but not me.

I've owned many cars and motorcycles. Very few cars with automatics and I defiantly prefer manuel transmissions. I luv the control and mechanical feel of going through the gears on a manuel transmission that you just don't get with automatic transmissions. I currently own 2 cars and two motorcycles. All manuel. Great vid btw. Nice honest review:)

If you are an experienced rider you should have put the bike in sport mode and it would have eliminated those issues you mentioned. I am curious as to whether or not you ended up taking the time to really explore the settings and whether you kept the bike or not? Please let use know. Thank you

What riding mode were you in?

I wonder if you actually have a faulty DCT, or it needs reset. Some reviewers have mentioned the jerky throttle at low speeds when is sport mode. My experience with the DCT comes from my 2015 Honda CTX700. This bike does not seem to have the issues you mentioned. The DCT on the bike is awesome. Hope you get it worked out.

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I'm going to do a reset.

Sounds like a remapping might fix the problem. Sounds like a software issue 🤔 being snatchy & slow gear changes.

Brilliant vid I'm buying the Manuel at Christmas tottsly get what u mean by the pegs thanks

That snatchy throttle seems to be related to too lean a mixture. It’s also on the Kawasaki 650 engines. They use a booster plug to mitigate it.

What do you think of the large screen?

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

I love the big windshield! I have this same windshield on two of the Rebel 500's and both Rebel 1100's (DCT and manual) now. The windshield information is in the video description.

Regarding the snatchy throttle and people dropping it, could it be because of the selected riding mode? I'd assume Sport mode would cause that to a new rider, but Rain and Standard wouldn't. I can't talk about the sound/feel of the gears changing, but out of that list the only thing that seemed like an actual problem is the left pedal. Everything else seems to be pretty much about getting used to a different style of bike. One would probably be complaining about the opposite thing if they rode their entire life on DCT bikes and suddenly changed to a manual bike: "How come I need to think about which gear to shift to when coming out of a turn? Come on, Honda, make your bike smarter!"

I just picked up mine yesterday and have to admit I don't really like it down-shifting. However upshifting seems seamless. On the other side of the story - every motorbike produces a clunk while shifting, so - where is the problem ...?

I had the DCT on the Africa Twin, not clunky at all. Should get yours looked at. Also, are you using the riding modes? Coming out of turns in sports mode on the AT is great

As a 1100 DCT owner I would disagree with many of your comments but I certainly understand that different people have differents experiences. Is it possible that, as an experienced rider, you simply are not used to ride a bike with no clucth? I would also argue that some of the problems you pointed out would be much less noticible as you put more miles on the bike. But one thing I absolutly want to know: What is the windshield we see on the bike?? Where did you buy it?? Thanks and ride safe.

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. These things would be far less noticeable with a person putting more miles on the bike. I do mention that at one point. One thing I didn’t mention... I also purchased a new Zero SR/S Premier (top of the line) recently. It is smooth, powerful and Magnificent, and the 1100 DCT feels like a real clunker in comparison. I’ll be doing a video comparison before selling the DCT. Neither bike requires a manual clutch.

@gaboufleur

3 жыл бұрын

@@mcSal What about the windshield on the 1100 DCT???

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

@@gaboufleur Slipstreamer SS-24-C on Amazon. It is a generic windscreen that works great on the Rebel 500's and 1100's, although it fits a bit differently on each bike type. It takes anywhere from 10 - 30 minutes to install, depending on if you secure just to the bars or also to the forks. It is super easy to install. I installed just to the bars on the 500's and the 1100 DCT, but also secured to the forks on the 1100 manual. I love windshields and put something on all my bikes (except the little Grom!)

Besides the foot peg, would I experience any of the other 4 problems if I leave it in automatic? Because that’s why I ordered it. I don’t want to shift gears anymore.

@mcSal

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, you will experience them all initially (which is why I made the video). As you adapt to the bike, most will no longer be considered an issue. That foot peg guard is poorly designed, though. The DCT is very easy to ride since there is no shifting. If you like to power out of corners/turns, you will want to regularly use the downshift paddle. Life is much better in Sport mode. This bike has a lot of power and torque, which you will enjoy. It is very stable and strong on the freeway at higher speeds, too. Enjoy!

@denislemieux7294

2 жыл бұрын

@@mcSal Thank You……So Sport Mode and Automatic. Much appreciated. 🍷👍🏻

Ok I also acquired the 2022 1100 DCT HINDA Rebel recently and there is one part I hate and again it's because it's a DCT when you engage it just like on a car when you put it on drive mode. Sometime on a stop sign it tends to want to go forward there's a slight resistance and the only way to get around it is you have to take the brake lever to press the neutral button. Also when doing a reverse you have to go to neutral if I had a manual all I have to do is engage the clutch and it's the gears are freed up. Lastly It stalls on stoplight I did a DCT reset and so far it's been behaving still not convinced the issue is fixed I stalled at least 4 times on a stop light and got caught when the light turned green No Bueno. Ok that's my 2 cent

And you can take that guard off of both sides and put the screws back in.

@mcSal

2 жыл бұрын

Great idea!

How about the mounting hardware for the Rebel? You have a great review.

@mcSal

2 жыл бұрын

The mounting hardware for the windshield? It comes with the windshield. I put the windshield link in the video description. I tighten the windshield mounting screws before each ride.

Nice review. These bikes are getting hard to find. I was wondering if the DCT version of the 1100 has a neutral. If so how do you engage it? Thanks

@mcSal

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Yes, there is a Drive button and a Neutral button on the right handlebar of the DCT. We have the next video ready, a comparison of the DCT & Manual version, but it was broken into 3 videos: Physical Comparison & Specs (done but not released yet), Comparison: The Ride (almost done) with in-ride comments, and Comparison: After Ride Review. Soon. The physical comparison of differences and what’s the same will be covered in the first comparison video that will be released in the next few days.

Did you say you bought a manual one too? Did you trade in the DCT one for the manual ?

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I DID buy a Rebel 1100 Manual and love it! No, I did not trade in the 1100 DCT... yet. I will finish my reviews with it, then sell it. I do want to get it checked out first for the clunky shifting.

@jimsaddler942

3 жыл бұрын

@@mcSal Hopefully, none of your potential buyers will watch your review of it! 😉

Hi Sal, can I ask you? What is brand and model of windshield on your 1100?

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

It's listed in the video description. I got it on Amazon.

appreciate your views on this new creature. it does sound like most things are a matter of getting used to instead of good or bad. doesn't setting the user mode fix most of the shifting problems? i am seriously considering this bike and will make sure i test out the different modes first. thanks for the heads up

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

You are correct. I really made that video to bring these things to people's attention so they know ahead of time what to expect. I can see this bike being great for city riding with lots of stop & go, or for people that are happy to not use a clutch, or for people that have issues with manual bikes. It has plenty of power & torque. It also has the same rider triangle as the Rebel 500 in that it fits riders about 5' tall to maybe 5'10". The Rebel 1100 foot pegs sit high above the ground, which contributes to a more compact rider triangle. Taller riders tend to feel a bit cramped. Just a few things I noticed. What other bikes are you considering?

@boedude8496

3 жыл бұрын

@@mcSal i am one of the vertically challenged (5'5") so i am very limited on what i can ride. i just started riding last year, got a pcx 150 for my daily commute. but its not designed for the road. was looking at the shadow phantom, love the look and it has a very low seat. there is always a harley but i doubt i will go in that direction

@mcSal

3 жыл бұрын

@@boedude8496 The Honda Rebel 500 or 1100 should suit you very well. You may also want to look at the new 2022 Indian Chief with 26” seat, mid pegs, nimble, low center of gravity, and loaded with torque and power.

@Grandmasterjord

2 жыл бұрын

This bike would be perfect for you. I’m 5’7 and can easily flatfoot this amazing machine. Handing is amazing too. It’s such a dream to not have a tired left hand in traffic too. Go try one out. I think you’d love this bike.

Great review of weak spots.. High Gears & low speeds - Ninja 1000R actually listed 6th gear above 32mph! Also, powerful torquey motors can push high gears at low speeds - think classic HD riding style. Agree with you point sport mode + paddle shifting then just choose manual shift model. Best "automatic" is CVT like on scooters which has zero problems - except feeling "vague". Loved & miss my scooters CVT. Snatchiness off idle - my NC700X is a little strange until the motor is warmed up fully and many sport bikes with EFI solve this with artificial high idle - I believe this has more to do with fuel injection and the computer and the DCT makes it worse without a clutch. I hate clunks too esp when I shift in to 1st gear - many bmw K bikes have zero clunk in 1st gear (but a whole lot of other issues) Love the tall windshield.