2019 Mazda MX-5 vs VW Golf R - TRACK REVIEW // DRAG RACE & LAP TIMES

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CONTINUING OUR FULL TRACK SERIES! James and Thomas take the new 2019 Mazda MX-5 Miata GT and pit it against the 2019 Golf R in a full track test: Drag race, drifting, and lap times! Can the lightweight Miata outmanoeuvre the more powerful but heavier Golf R? Let's find out!
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  • @nats50
    @nats504 жыл бұрын

    You can have your 2.33 seconds, I'll still take the Miata.

  • @inthebagsolutions

    @inthebagsolutions

    4 жыл бұрын

    Me too!

  • @sergiosanchezpadilla6941

    @sergiosanchezpadilla6941

    4 жыл бұрын

    me too!

  • @balram7428

    @balram7428

    4 жыл бұрын

    And i will keep my 4 seats lol

  • @motionelco

    @motionelco

    4 жыл бұрын

    Balram I’ve never heard someone bragging about having extra seats in a sports car.

  • @balram7428

    @balram7428

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@motionelco it was a joke btw.

  • @aperson5062
    @aperson50624 жыл бұрын

    As a fellow Miata owner, we all know that the point is how much fun it is to drive on the road. I've had a couple of Audi S4's and driving a fast car at 3/10ths isn't that much fun. They would go faster on a track, and haul more people and stuff, but I would much rather drive the Miata.

  • @mostyles328

    @mostyles328

    Жыл бұрын

    I also have a 2018 Audi S4 that can wipe the floor with a Miata, but I’m always exited to take my 124 spider (Fiata) out in the spring/summer. So much fun!

  • @ChapeauRouge921
    @ChapeauRouge9214 жыл бұрын

    How to identify the MX5 driver: The guy with the year round tan arriving at work with a grin on his face.

  • @joaodellarosa9615

    @joaodellarosa9615

    4 жыл бұрын

    That is so funny because there's this guy I have seen a few times around my building parking lot that owns a Miata and perfectly fits the description Lol

  • @tmo2798

    @tmo2798

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's me... when I have a job.

  • @80s_Boombox_Collector

    @80s_Boombox_Collector

    3 жыл бұрын

    And typically age 50+

  • @ZACH_95_

    @ZACH_95_

    3 жыл бұрын

    80's Boombox Collector naa not really. Most people that have miatas are younger. 👏🏻👏🏻

  • @80s_Boombox_Collector

    @80s_Boombox_Collector

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ZACH_95_ I don't believe I've ever seen anyone in their 20s with a Miata. They would much rather drive a BRZ, WRX, Mustang, M3, M2, or even just a Wrangler. Those are much more practical for someone who can only own 1 car.

  • @ClintsReptiles
    @ClintsReptiles4 жыл бұрын

    These are my exact realistic dream cars. I want both.

  • @maxhall6346

    @maxhall6346

    4 жыл бұрын

    Clint's Reptiles I would not expect you to be watching throttle house 😂

  • @blitzkriegbeatbox706

    @blitzkriegbeatbox706

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@maxhall6346 same bro I saw the top comment, i was like huh that's familiar.

  • @epicraptorman

    @epicraptorman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Clint likes lizards and Miatas?

  • @jessalove8322

    @jessalove8322

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same actually

  • @yutub561

    @yutub561

    3 жыл бұрын

    Get a GTI. Lots of MK7 GTI guys who have driven both prefer the GTI over the R for weight and fun factor. Everyone has their own reasons but you can get a GTI for half the price of an R and tune for more HP, saving you a lot of money

  • @josephmichael4219
    @josephmichael42194 жыл бұрын

    Both are 42k? Here in Spain you could buy 1 and a half MX5 for the price of a Golf R, Miatas go for 20-30k while the Golf Rs go for 45k+

  • @TheFlyingClutchman

    @TheFlyingClutchman

    4 жыл бұрын

    Similar in the UK

  • @nicoschu

    @nicoschu

    4 жыл бұрын

    In Switzerland it's even worse. The Golf R starts at around 51k and ends at 80k swiss-francs

  • @sadmanh0

    @sadmanh0

    4 жыл бұрын

    yep, I couldn't believe it either but they cost the same in Canada

  • @Jameshhl

    @Jameshhl

    4 жыл бұрын

    Golf R $41k MX-5 $31k ($35k Fully loaded, LSD, Bilstein, Tower brace, Interior, Appearance, Weather, lighting packages) in US

  • @ayeapprove

    @ayeapprove

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@sadmanh0 Europeans paying for the competitive pricing elsewhere

  • @serbzero
    @serbzero4 жыл бұрын

    fellas, your editing and cinematic skills are improving exponentially! combined with great personalities, and silly antics, you deserve every single of those 200k subscriptions! Onto a million! Keep up the good work!

  • @martytdd1606

    @martytdd1606

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mr expert hahaha

  • @CanningPetto
    @CanningPetto4 жыл бұрын

    Mx-5 is my favourite car in asseto corsa. Was crushed when I went to test drive one. I'm 6'3" I was literally crushed.

  • @scottroberts5529

    @scottroberts5529

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm 6'3" I fit nicely in my R my dad has a 2018 mini cooper and I fit nicely in that car as well and that thing handles really nice in the twistys

  • @CanningPetto

    @CanningPetto

    4 жыл бұрын

    Guys I drive a 2018 base golf. Love it and want an R so bad.

  • @josephandreuccetti8043

    @josephandreuccetti8043

    4 жыл бұрын

    CanningPetto Women make me feel bad for not being tall at 5.7 But then I fit every single motorcycle and every single performance car made. Fuck it I’ll take that I feel bad for big dudes can’t get into cars they like and get stuck with only large cars

  • @gettingbettereveryday350

    @gettingbettereveryday350

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm 6'2 and my NC miata has plenty of space.... have u tried an NC?

  • @JL-tc3pf

    @JL-tc3pf

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@gettingbettereveryday350 : I'm 6'1" with 33" inseams and had a NC. Did mods to seat and pedals and never was comfortable. Additionally, despite suspension mods, it never handled as well as my Wife's NB. Worst handling MX-5 I've ever driven. Wife's 2016 MX-5 fits really well with front of seat that's adjustable for height. Conversely the passenger seat w/o that feature is uncomfortable.

  • @davidking4686
    @davidking46864 жыл бұрын

    I really appreciate when y'all do the lap view and have the minimap showing speeds at certain points on the track. It's really informative about how some cars are slower through turns or faster on the straights.

  • @kaox44
    @kaox444 жыл бұрын

    Remember folks, it's AWD+285hp vs RWD+181hp. The MX5 time is pretty good with two big disadvantages.

  • @jjf3934

    @jjf3934

    3 жыл бұрын

    Isn’t the golf technically a front wheel drive and only engages all 4 wheel if it detects slippage?

  • @patrick7695

    @patrick7695

    2 жыл бұрын

    I dont think golf has 285hp, some people say it has 280 and some say it has 300.... Knowing VW they probably lie about how much hp the golf actually has I was watching a drag race between 320hp type r and 300hp golf r and golf was noticably faster It probably has like 320-330hp

  • @MisoElEven

    @MisoElEven

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@patrick7695 If the manufacturer declares 285hp then thats the lowest possible number..usually when you get it actually tested you will find that they have more power.

  • @Gustinpham

    @Gustinpham

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@patrick7695 likely the dsg made it faster

  • @josechuperez4280

    @josechuperez4280

    Жыл бұрын

    In europe it's 320 horse power. I think it depends on the market.

  • @nickn753
    @nickn7534 жыл бұрын

    4:18 that was straight top gear R8 Vs 911 and I love it

  • @delahozlife4978

    @delahozlife4978

    4 жыл бұрын

    link??

  • @kovenant9460

    @kovenant9460

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@delahozlife4978 kzread.info/dash/bejne/oZV5sKlqptecXbw.html

  • @delahozlife4978

    @delahozlife4978

    4 жыл бұрын

    Andrés Arbeláez que santa maravilla

  • @tennisthehilife
    @tennisthehilife4 жыл бұрын

    ND miata for me soon hopefully. I mistakenly sold my 95 miata for a sporty practical lexus for 3 years with 0 smiles. I loved driving the miata and getting lost and making an amazing adventure of every little drive.

  • @WhiteGoldSynesthesia
    @WhiteGoldSynesthesia4 жыл бұрын

    Nice video. And congrats on 200k! Very well deserved. Here's to the next 200! 🍻

  • @ikarugaxx3749
    @ikarugaxx37494 жыл бұрын

    In Italy a Golf R starts from €48100 (with mandatory five doors & DSG gearshift), while the MX-5 Sport with the new upgraded 2L engine (184 HP) and soft top starts from €32000: that's a €16000, more or less $17500 USD difference. In Canada, the two cars' prices (I checked that the equipment be the same) are $3603 apart instead of €16100. If you wonder why, that is because the 101% or maybe the 200% of people in Italy will buy the Golf (if they can't an A Class, A3, or 1 Series, that is), no matter how it drives, handles, what equipment it comes with, what the competition, Mazda for instance, is offering under those respects. This reflects in the companies' attitudes, starting from how they price their cars (and not limited to that).

  • @michaelzaff2843
    @michaelzaff28434 жыл бұрын

    In Europe (I am located in Austria) it is a little different - here the Golf R starts at € 55.980,- and the MX5 incl. Bilsteins and Recaros at € 35.890,-

  • @kainanchen

    @kainanchen

    4 жыл бұрын

    In addition, LSD only comes to the RF with Sportline (It isn't written anywhere, I knew this by asking Mazada Deutschland).

  • @Kradfreund

    @Kradfreund

    4 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely, my first thought was: A fair match would be the Golf GTI, not the R.

  • @LZKaiMarc

    @LZKaiMarc

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@kainanchen in germany the LSD is onboard at every 2l model - i have a 2l preFacelift Roadster "Sportsline" with 160hp from 2016 and it has mounted the LSD!

  • @kainanchen

    @kainanchen

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@LZKaiMarc I am very confused recently, too. Because I got the answer directly from Mazda Deutschland email support. But I went to the dealer last week and they told me it has to be there. The dealer will anyway contact Mazda again to confirm, let's see what would they say😂

  • @LZKaiMarc

    @LZKaiMarc

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@kainanchen i am sorry for confusing you - but i only can speak for the german market. But it sounds strange because the RF model came later. My model is one of the first, i bought it last year as used car from a mazda-dealer and when i did research for buying, i got this information. For me it was very important to get a model with LSD. In two weeks i am on the asia-arena meeting in Oschersleben and my MX5 has its first time on the track. All My mates have more powerful cars with around 200hp and they can't outrun me. The MX5 is a car wich will often be underestimated. For me it is my dreamcar which i ride everyday. And for riding it very sporty it don't need much petrol - around 7-8l per 100 km.

  • @kiyabcs
    @kiyabcs4 жыл бұрын

    Mx5 vs. Brz would be a fantastic comparison.

  • @DocHoliday444

    @DocHoliday444

    4 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely! Great idea.

  • @wanghanshen
    @wanghanshen3 жыл бұрын

    I owned a MK 7 Golf R with manual transmission for 4 years, drove it for 60,000km and sold it last year and bought a 2016 MX5 with only 16,000km on the clock. It's manual transmission of course, and I also got $8,000 back from this change. In the 4 years of owning the Golf, I almost never go out just for a drive. Since I got the MX5, I go to the mountains pretty much every weekend LOL. POWER doesn't equal to FUN, especially on the streets. The dynamics & the way the car makes you feel is way more important.

  • @rockervdrive
    @rockervdrive4 жыл бұрын

    4:20 was just like that old Top Gear scene with the R8 vs 911. Epic!

  • @delahozlife4978

    @delahozlife4978

    4 жыл бұрын

    Can someone put the video?

  • @VK-sc6mf

    @VK-sc6mf

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@delahozlife4978 It's not R8 vs 911, but it's similar moment kzread.info/dash/bejne/dpWOp9qdhKuumrw.html

  • @kovenant9460

    @kovenant9460

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@delahozlife4978 kzread.info/dash/bejne/oZV5sKlqptecXbw.html

  • @pipsqeak7104

    @pipsqeak7104

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah noticed that to I think it was intentional

  • @giriprasadkotte9876

    @giriprasadkotte9876

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was searching for the name of the Topgear video for almost two years now. I only remembered the 911 and not the other. Thanks to you, now I do.

  • @danielanthony6141
    @danielanthony61414 жыл бұрын

    This is what top gear used to be, before it became less about the cars and more about the script / special effects. You guys have a winning recipe right here, great chemistry, superb content and driver focused. Please never change!!

  • @colinwulput5509
    @colinwulput55094 жыл бұрын

    Miata, really ! She's in the garage and each morning starting the day with a banana smile when i push the start button. Even through bad weather, dislock the ESP and test a gently drift! Coming back from the Corse Island, it was so magnifique.

  • @ThePatriots1993
    @ThePatriots19934 жыл бұрын

    Congrats on 200k subs!! & Great entertaining video as always

  • @caglioso
    @caglioso4 жыл бұрын

    200k? This channel should easily be at 1mil! Either way congrats guys.

  • @martyn_g
    @martyn_g4 жыл бұрын

    I have a 2017 MX5 - cost me $41K AUD - Golf R $60K AUD, Golf R is DSG only, my MX5 is manual. I don’t have kids. You can keep the damn Golf😂

  • @lakerforever1114

    @lakerforever1114

    4 жыл бұрын

    Martyn Gasson until you start mods, and realize that an apr stage 2 kit is inexpensive and makes the golf r a damn rocket.

  • @Joe-qc2fw

    @Joe-qc2fw

    4 жыл бұрын

    lakerforever1114 As if even more power in the golf is remotely appealing to an MX5 owner???

  • @RussellMiddleton

    @RussellMiddleton

    4 жыл бұрын

    Golf R isn't DSG only, there's a popular manual version.

  • @emmanuelperrina6105

    @emmanuelperrina6105

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@lakerforever1114 until you find a miata in a twisty mountain road. Do you think that we keep the crappy stock tires?

  • @emmanuelperrina6105

    @emmanuelperrina6105

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@dmpope1527 we have the ability to have fun in the winter. There is nothing more fun than an rwd car on snow.

  • @sylvainmarier4818
    @sylvainmarier48184 жыл бұрын

    Great comparative and time lap. Love watching guys 👍🏻

  • @wbwayne8887
    @wbwayne88874 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for all the dedication and work you obviously put in to each and every video. No one out there quite like you guys. Makes for very enjoyable videos. Well deserved 200K. Keep up the excellent work.

  • @jamesengelsman9369

    @jamesengelsman9369

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Wayne!

  • @scootcha

    @scootcha

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jamesengelsman9369 you should make vlogs on your channel. You're a cool guy.

  • @ElectronikReviews
    @ElectronikReviews4 жыл бұрын

    I have a 92 miata and it has a very similar redline to the one you tested. It really does feel lie you're just winding the engine right out. Very satisfying.

  • @beristain
    @beristain4 жыл бұрын

    I’ll take the Miata in a heartbeat. It’s a roadster and rear wheel drive for xtra fun

  • @miguelsanchez6465

    @miguelsanchez6465

    4 жыл бұрын

    the mazda came out it only had 150 hp, now it has 180 so ya its probably fun as hell

  • @Timochat_

    @Timochat_

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@miguelsanchez6465 184

  • @jamespanda7887

    @jamespanda7887

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@miguelsanchez6465 miata only had 110hp originally

  • @miguelsanchez6465

    @miguelsanchez6465

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jamespanda7887 the first gen correct? im talking about the newest gen, i think it only had 150 hp in its top spec when it debuted. with 184 it is probably soooo fun

  • @jamespanda7887

    @jamespanda7887

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@miguelsanchez6465 I have a 2003 mx5 turbo project happening soon. it has a stock 140hp. but run 7psi turbo and you'll get 220whp reliably.

  • @DoctorChange106
    @DoctorChange1064 жыл бұрын

    excellent review - both are great - nice format thank you.

  • @astronut06
    @astronut064 жыл бұрын

    Great pacing and sense of urgency. Production quality keeps improving. Nice work.

  • @macbitz
    @macbitz4 жыл бұрын

    I'll take fun over speed any day. Not everything humans do has to be completed in the shortest time possible 😉

  • @NippyMoto

    @NippyMoto

    4 жыл бұрын

    Golf Rs are incredible fun just not as fun as a Miata. If you need one as a daily and a track car for the weekends I'd go for the Golf R every day though.

  • @GreatGrandmasterWang

    @GreatGrandmasterWang

    4 жыл бұрын

    But its fun overtaking slowpokes

  • @gettingbettereveryday350

    @gettingbettereveryday350

    4 жыл бұрын

    that's what my wife says.....

  • @sadmanh0

    @sadmanh0

    4 жыл бұрын

    but Golf R can be your only vehicle, a miata just can't

  • @gettingbettereveryday350

    @gettingbettereveryday350

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@sadmanh0 i have only a miata.... but i agree it is a lot less practical than a golf

  • @rusty9501
    @rusty95014 жыл бұрын

    Great video gents. In Australia the VW is 15 to 20 k more expensive. My garage is a 2016 Mx-5 ND and a BMW M140i. Love em both!

  • @hackerino159

    @hackerino159

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dream Garage😍😍

  • @kevinburroughs1134
    @kevinburroughs11344 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always, keep up the good work! Would love to see you guys do lap times with the BRZ, ST and SI HFP to test the lower priced sports cars!

  • @billyhighfill
    @billyhighfill4 жыл бұрын

    I love the take you guys have on cars and the comparisons you do. Keep it up!!!

  • @ozahmed4523
    @ozahmed45234 жыл бұрын

    You guys are awesome! Keep up the good work with the cool hot rods! You have a new subscriber from T.O.

  • @BretSnyderMusic
    @BretSnyderMusic4 жыл бұрын

    4:20 HOLY SHIT!

  • @xenialxerus934

    @xenialxerus934

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lightweight cars are worthy to drift and fall over

  • @CherriPicking
    @CherriPicking4 жыл бұрын

    congrats on 200k, you guys definitely deserve it! great video as always, too!

  • @jamesengelsman9369

    @jamesengelsman9369

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Canafa!

  • @Spike.SpiegeI
    @Spike.SpiegeI4 жыл бұрын

    this channel is soooo underrated. The content and quality is top notch!

  • @garor1994
    @garor19944 жыл бұрын

    Dude you need to accelerate at those corners with the miata, it might seem scary at first, but it's the magic of a roadster, you can oversteer confidently, if you dont give power to the back in corners you lose more grip

  • @jeremycrowe2139
    @jeremycrowe21394 жыл бұрын

    I’ve owned an MX-5 (NC 6-speed, 2006) for 8yrs, and 18 months ago bought a 2016 Golf R DSG as a more practical daily commute / family car. (And they’re both grey.) The Golf R is amazing, no doubt about it. Incredible performance, and can get you from A to B very quickly indeed. But for the sheer pleasure of driving, the MX-5 wins hands down. Plus you can do most of the servicing yourself.

  • @rezboadog369
    @rezboadog3694 жыл бұрын

    "...which is good cause I got "five" reasons!" That banter right there was the reason why I subscribed. It feels like two friends having fun and review cars. I love it.

  • @joszer
    @joszer4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the great content!

  • @jairon_2518
    @jairon_25184 жыл бұрын

    Just two of the cars I'm more interested on Practicality vs Fun

  • @nickjohnston7513
    @nickjohnston75132 жыл бұрын

    All of the Miatas look so cool, and every time someone reviews them, they talk about how much fun they are. That is my dream car.

  • @mikeb9569

    @mikeb9569

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeehaaaahhhh! I'm on my 4th (two NBs an NC and now an ND) and they amazingly just keep getting better!!

  • @shortstories3349

    @shortstories3349

    Жыл бұрын

    They aren't wrong. I finally bought a 2020 RF. I'm learning on it, and it is an absolute blast to drive. Slow, fast - anytime.

  • @willneverstop
    @willneverstop4 жыл бұрын

    You guys always have the coolest comparisons

  • @JavierCR25
    @JavierCR254 жыл бұрын

    Your videos just keep on getting better!

  • @Dolby109
    @Dolby1094 жыл бұрын

    I feel like this is a bit of a wierd comparison. A 4-door hot hatch with near to 300hp, AWD, and a $35k starting price against a 2-door convertible with 181hp and a ~$26k starting price. Still on track they might be somewhat close, though I expect the Miata to be both more fun and slower.

  • @divyangmistry7454

    @divyangmistry7454

    4 жыл бұрын

    The miata featured here has a more powerful engine and LSD, bumps up the price

  • @Dolby109

    @Dolby109

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@divyangmistry7454 The LSD might, although it really shouldn't much. The more powerful 181hp engine is simply standard for 2019+ MX-5's.

  • @divyangmistry7454

    @divyangmistry7454

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Dolby109 Didn't knew that. These guys compared type R and M2 Comp a while back, calculate the price difference there. But that video made sense as both the cars were 1-2 seconds apart on the track. Many people want to own a roadster or a hot hatch or both, this might be a video geared towards them.

  • @Dolby109

    @Dolby109

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@divyangmistry7454 MT Compared the V6 1LE Camaro (which runs pretty similar lap times to the CTR) to the regular M2. The M2 won, but not by a huge margin. The SS 1LE was still cheaper than the base M2, but I think they wanted it a bit closer performance wise than price.

  • @zTheBigFishz

    @zTheBigFishz

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Dolby109 Yea, cause the SS 1LE would curb stomp the M2.

  • @abalakrishnan4152
    @abalakrishnan41524 жыл бұрын

    M iata I s A lways T he A nswer because traction is overrated

  • @Platypus_Warrior

    @Platypus_Warrior

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wish the window was closed on track, I really think it makes a difference

  • @TheBb6prelude

    @TheBb6prelude

    4 жыл бұрын

    A Balakrishnan drifting is garbage

  • @Th3_0_h8

    @Th3_0_h8

    4 жыл бұрын

    They woulda put some pilot sports on that miata it would have destroyed the golf

  • @Platypus_Warrior

    @Platypus_Warrior

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Th3_0_h8 Thank you. Comparing cars on a track should be done with same tire compound

  • @MouseCIick

    @MouseCIick

    4 жыл бұрын

    the car is so light, you barely even need traction which makes it so easy and forgiving to drive.

  • @dflet03
    @dflet034 жыл бұрын

    Solid channel great automotive content. You guys are on your way.

  • @thepowerofpie
    @thepowerofpie4 жыл бұрын

    Cross shopping these cars myself right now! Wonderfully timed video, and great production as always.

  • @ThrottleHouse

    @ThrottleHouse

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hope we helped! They are both great cars

  • @WindDispatcher
    @WindDispatcher3 жыл бұрын

    Unless you're being paid to turn in fast lap times, then isn't having fun really the only thing?

  • @swizzard3147
    @swizzard31474 жыл бұрын

    Good video. A professional race car driver would probably end up with closer - and more consistent - times but, the results would probably be similar. The Miata is such fun to drive - it always has been.

  • @danlewis7641
    @danlewis76413 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for a really fun vid guys.

  • @1972juankarlos
    @1972juankarlos4 жыл бұрын

    The more i watch you guys, the better i like your videos... keep it up, hope to see 500 K by the end of 2020, you deserve it.

  • @ThrottleHouse

    @ThrottleHouse

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @laynedingman9707
    @laynedingman97074 жыл бұрын

    This is why you just buy both, like I did! Except the Miata is an NA and it's a dedicated track car now, and the R is a DSG.

  • @middler5212
    @middler52124 жыл бұрын

    That opening fog background tho! 😲

  • @ZakElbas
    @ZakElbas4 жыл бұрын

    This is an awesome video. Great idea to compare these two cars.

  • @just.a.simplejoe
    @just.a.simplejoe2 жыл бұрын

    Still one of my fav videos from you guys, because I'm a miata owner. And whether it wins or loses isn't as important cause its always a fun time!

  • @basithph8958
    @basithph89584 жыл бұрын

    Both cars are fun in their own way Love that fact that both of them are a manual

  • @lensoprezole5322

    @lensoprezole5322

    7 ай бұрын

    Golf can't drift properly.

  • @Luigin182
    @Luigin1824 жыл бұрын

    Why do you run with OPEN Window in Miata, and Golf Closed???

  • @GSPEED-dw3gs

    @GSPEED-dw3gs

    4 жыл бұрын

    its because in the Miata you go thru the corners so fast ya crap your pants so having the window down helps keep the smell in check.…. the other car is just..well..just another car :-) I hope that explanation helps clear it up for ya a little

  • @JL-tc3pf

    @JL-tc3pf

    4 жыл бұрын

    So you can yell: "Hey Wild Bill, wait for me...?"

  • @ArtemLokhovitskiy

    @ArtemLokhovitskiy

    4 жыл бұрын

    Maybe it was pretty hot and he didn't want to use a/c to save power?

  • @zinny999

    @zinny999

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ArtemLokhovitskiy amateurish... girls probably do this. SAVAGEESE would rape this dude back to middle ages.

  • @GerhardImhof

    @GerhardImhof

    4 жыл бұрын

    I got an mx-5, if the window's open you feel much air pressure insider of the car. This really makes a difference 🤔

  • @shahulhusman
    @shahulhusman4 жыл бұрын

    You guys may be my favorite car reviewers now

  • @heekim3373
    @heekim33734 жыл бұрын

    Congrats on 200k

  • @tajo98
    @tajo984 жыл бұрын

    Can you please do rwd vs awd? BMW M240 rwd with LSD vs M240 xdrive would be very interesting.

  • @pikachupowers

    @pikachupowers

    4 жыл бұрын

    RWD will walk all over it, even with open diff.

  • @tajo98

    @tajo98

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@pikachupowers Not sure. The instructor from BMW driving experience was saying that 5 series xdrive is faster through 30sec auto x course than non xdrive model.

  • @pikachupowers

    @pikachupowers

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@tajo98 he would have to prove it then. BMW's were designed as RWD vehicles.

  • @tajo98

    @tajo98

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@pikachupowers that is exactly why I asked these guys to do it. ;-)

  • @christianbowes7907

    @christianbowes7907

    4 жыл бұрын

    This is RWD (Miata) vs AWD (Golf R)

  • @ajunta2270
    @ajunta22704 жыл бұрын

    Yohoo! Watching this at work.

  • @joxer
    @joxer4 жыл бұрын

    Nice video - just picked up a Golf R manual last week, but only after practicality talked me out of the new MX-5! I'm hoping some circumstances with other cars in the household will change and I can trade one of those in for a nice CPO 2019 MX-5 And achieve that dream garage...

  • @daver7465
    @daver74652 жыл бұрын

    Great video! I own a Golf R and am looking to buy a Miata so this was very interesting for me.

  • @hokonglim
    @hokonglim4 жыл бұрын

    Both are my favourites, y'all lead me to a difficult position. 😥

  • @unclelou5240
    @unclelou52404 жыл бұрын

    Nice review👍🏽 However I didn’t expect to see Golf R is 4sec slower than Audi RS3, as I thought they should be neck-to-neck competitor on the track

  • @djengomd6285

    @djengomd6285

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think you may mean the S4*

  • @mikew3752

    @mikew3752

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@djengomd6285 The S3 is the same as the Golf R. In NA, we don't get the hatch version of the S3, but other places do. From what I've seen, the Audi is a bit quicker on the track. Perhaps the suspension is tuned more for the track than the Golf is.

  • @SSDracerSD
    @SSDracerSD4 жыл бұрын

    Awesome! Keep them track times stacking!

  • @middler5212
    @middler52124 жыл бұрын

    That wrist brace explanation was both perplexing and hilarious!!!!

  • @connermt74
    @connermt744 жыл бұрын

    You guys are flippin stupid (in a good way) and I love every minute of it. Haha.

  • @danielmarconi3527
    @danielmarconi35274 жыл бұрын

    Giulia Quadrifoglio vs M3 CS vs C63S sedan vs Model 3 DMP please!

  • @Newzchspy

    @Newzchspy

    4 жыл бұрын

    Daniel Marconi add the Model 3 DMP to that and do some drag racing.

  • @wbwayne8887

    @wbwayne8887

    4 жыл бұрын

    Need to wait for the new M3 imo though, but good suggestion.

  • @wbwayne8887

    @wbwayne8887

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Newzchspy No contest, the Tesla will wipe the floor with them in a drag race.

  • @Newzchspy

    @Newzchspy

    4 жыл бұрын

    WB Wayne and in the track/handling test....

  • @hoen2009

    @hoen2009

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@wbwayne8887 Model 3 is still good at drag racing, but those other three can actually beat it.

  • @ElectronikReviews
    @ElectronikReviews4 жыл бұрын

    New subscriber and bell ringer. Love the channel!

  • @ThrottleHouse

    @ThrottleHouse

    4 жыл бұрын

    Welcome!

  • @ericmohlenhoff1431
    @ericmohlenhoff14313 жыл бұрын

    I actually have both of these cars in my garage....although mine are an '18 GTI SE manual and a '16 MX-5 Club w/brembo-BBS manual....pretty close though. I bought both of them because they are the best bang for the buck regardless. I'm still very happy with my purchases although I wish I had the newer MX-5 with the uprated engine.

  • @OldDirtyCollector
    @OldDirtyCollector4 жыл бұрын

    I’m interested to see a MK 7.5 GTI would do up against a Miata. I love both cars and own both. So, it would be a win, win for me to see!

  • @dlg5485
    @dlg54852 жыл бұрын

    Impressive finish for the MX-5 given the massive power difference. I wouldn't trade my '21 GT for anything, it's the most fun I've ever had behind the wheel.

  • @gogglez61

    @gogglez61

    Жыл бұрын

    I just bought a 22 MX-5 GT and I love it. I've had a couple s550 Mustangs and a couple WRX's, but they were nowhere near as fun as my MX-5

  • @mharro88

    @mharro88

    11 ай бұрын

    I got rid of mine for a Elantra N , I thought I'd regret it but I don't.

  • @Twindragon1111
    @Twindragon11114 жыл бұрын

    Congrats on 200K! You guys are my favorite car reviewers on KZread. Your videos are always instant watches for me!

  • @ThrottleHouse

    @ThrottleHouse

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!!

  • @jaypalo
    @jaypalo4 жыл бұрын

    Not a fan of either of these cars but this is great quality content, subbed 👌🏼

  • @ThrottleHouse

    @ThrottleHouse

    4 жыл бұрын

    Welcome!

  • @suttonsplash14
    @suttonsplash144 жыл бұрын

    not sure how these cars ended up price matched. the golf r is better value but I love the mx5. ps theres more time in that mx5

  • @gli.stephenmtl3749
    @gli.stephenmtl37494 жыл бұрын

    Would love 2 see a gli vs wrx or gli vs si

  • @mikefields2243
    @mikefields22434 жыл бұрын

    Great work boys

  • @jon_vega
    @jon_vega3 ай бұрын

    nice to come back to this video and know james chose both

  • @jw18xxx
    @jw18xxx4 жыл бұрын

    This is absurd how well you guys are doing.... Mark my words guys, your growing places with this channel. At 200k subscribers I'm getting million sub content. I'm glad I'll be here to watch every video and see it. Can't wait for more. Time to share you guys to the world

  • @ThrottleHouse

    @ThrottleHouse

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching and sharing!

  • @brucetumblinjr7980
    @brucetumblinjr79804 жыл бұрын

    GTI & Golf R are better all around daily drivers for me, but I do like the Miata RF!

  • @dersinnor3109

    @dersinnor3109

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bruce Tumblin Jr And that is the reason i changed from miata to gti

  • @fragu123

    @fragu123

    4 жыл бұрын

    .... don’t want to be overly harsh but the fact that you (finally) understand that a Golf is a better daily driver than a Miata doesn’t cast a positive light on your general smartness....

  • @brucetumblinjr7980

    @brucetumblinjr7980

    4 жыл бұрын

    jogu123 what makes you think I’m just realizing this genius?

  • @fragu123

    @fragu123

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bruce Tumblin Jr ....the fact that you decided to post your genius message....

  • @brucetumblinjr7980

    @brucetumblinjr7980

    4 жыл бұрын

    jogu123 NEGATIVE smart guy, the fact that I gave the other tubers my choice & my reason for that choice does not indicate that I’m just finding this out

  • @thugfox3000
    @thugfox30004 жыл бұрын

    Yuuuurrrrr new content!

  • @exilio2690
    @exilio26904 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, guys! Another great video.

  • @stephenhendricks103
    @stephenhendricks1034 жыл бұрын

    Two of my favorite cars (at any price.) I've always lusted after a Miata but never owned one. That's the result of competing priorities in terms of passenger capacity and versatility. I don't own a Golf R either, but my Stage I tuned GTI provides the power of a stock Golf R while lacking the advantage of AWD. I wouldn't give up my beloved VW but when the kid goes off to college and the dog dies, I would consider adding a Miata to the family fleet.

  • @PaulMansfield

    @PaulMansfield

    Жыл бұрын

    You can get a Miata with reasonable miles and fair condition quite cheap. I just did. My main/sensible/family car is a EV, which of course is auto, heavy, wallowy. Can you guess which one makes me grin like a loon when I drive it?

  • @WitchYuki22

    @WitchYuki22

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@PaulMansfield what about having only one car? Can the miata be as practical to be a family car? Lmao

  • @carstech2685
    @carstech26854 жыл бұрын

    I love both cars but since I already have a small light weight 2dr spots car (lotus Elise)...I would love to go for the golf R next

  • @erniefigueroa20
    @erniefigueroa204 жыл бұрын

    Why dont you have 1million subscribers yet? Great videos! Love your channel...

  • @TheRealRotz
    @TheRealRotz4 жыл бұрын

    u guys make the best car review 😂 and congrats on 200,000 subs u deserved it and deserve more

  • @_________1863
    @_________18634 жыл бұрын

    Open windows on the Miata though? Doesn't that affect the aero drag during hot laps? Genuine question I'm not a race driver.

  • @giusepperocchi2979

    @giusepperocchi2979

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, it does to a great extent indeed.

  • @thefancyllama4657

    @thefancyllama4657

    4 жыл бұрын

    lalo f golf r would win even if the windows were closed, almost double the hp and AWD. Each pair of wheels on the golf is pushing with the same power as both rear wheels on the Miata.

  • @jimmy92goodwin

    @jimmy92goodwin

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@thefancyllama4657 But the results show there was only 2 seconds in it? So having the windows closed would probably close that laptime by about a second or maybe the full 2 seconds. If you think how much of a difference the aero makes on supercars, having windows down is like putting a sail up on a pirate ship hahaha

  • @giusepperocchi2979

    @giusepperocchi2979

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@thefancyllama4657 The Golf is much heavier and has a higher center of mass, so it's not that easy...

  • @_________1863

    @_________1863

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@thefancyllama4657 That would only be the case in an even split full-time AWD system. The golf R is a front biased haldex system so it only sends power to the rear when the fancy german engineered computer decides it wants to.

  • @chaseedgren3097
    @chaseedgren30974 жыл бұрын

    The golf r need a rear anti sway bar! Helps a fair amount with the from end grip

  • @kevinrotge4774

    @kevinrotge4774

    4 жыл бұрын

    need sway bar and tires the tire that comes on the Golf R suck!! sadly i have a sway bar but no good tires

  • @barsaf9989

    @barsaf9989

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@kevinrotge4774 the golf comes with nice summer performance continentals. They are not bad. They stick pretty well.

  • @Me_Caveman
    @Me_Caveman4 жыл бұрын

    This content is beautiful. Now I have to find a WRX video to see how mine stacks up.

  • @milesfathi
    @milesfathi4 жыл бұрын

    The exact two cars I'm considering. Kudos!

  • @AznBoi871

    @AznBoi871

    4 жыл бұрын

    Get a golf bro better daily best all rounder

  • @milesfathi

    @milesfathi

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@AznBoi871 Well the issue is I have big ass awd SUV for winters. But I loved the R too.

  • @AznBoi871

    @AznBoi871

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@milesfathi thats fair enough I have a 7.5R wagon, one of my friends just bought an MX5 and woww that thing is fun especially on weekend cruisers.

  • @SavageP
    @SavageP4 жыл бұрын

    Sold my Miata for a Golf R. Miss my Miata but love the golf.

  • @worldofz00

    @worldofz00

    4 жыл бұрын

    is it a 6MT, the golf?

  • @JL-tc3pf

    @JL-tc3pf

    4 жыл бұрын

    Definitely a more practical daily driver

  • @billplaschka9279

    @billplaschka9279

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's hard to beat the do it all Golf R...especially considering the discounts you can get.

  • @SavageP

    @SavageP

    3 жыл бұрын

    Zuby A dsg a year later lol

  • @DeeJayAdverb
    @DeeJayAdverb4 жыл бұрын

    Soooo I've known Jakub and Yuri for years and they're personal friends of mine and I love their channel.....buuuuuuuut YOU GUYS ARE ABOUT TO PASS THEM HARD IN THE LEFT LANE ;)

  • @wbwayne8887

    @wbwayne8887

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jakub and Yuri: (In unison) WITH FRIENDS LIKE YOU, WHO NEEDS ENEMIES. 🤣🤣

  • @DeeJayAdverb

    @DeeJayAdverb

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@wbwayne8887 they're good sports ;)

  • @wbwayne8887

    @wbwayne8887

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@DeeJayAdverb You can tell they would be. They are also excellent at their work. Always love their intros too. "I'm Jakub, I'm Yuri and we're going for a ride."

  • @wbwayne8887

    @wbwayne8887

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@DeeJayAdverb Especially a few vids ago when Yuri changed it up for the Kia Tell U Ride.

  • @payasofeo69

    @payasofeo69

    4 жыл бұрын

    I find that the straightpipes guys changed with time... They are now a bit full of themselves and arrogant. Still good content but disconnected. I could be wrong but it’s the feeling I’m getting.

  • @sammy2840
    @sammy28403 жыл бұрын

    Love to let my 2004 MX5 Speed drift! Awesome fun! Top down mandatory. Down to about 20 degrees F!

  • @abbashaider8668
    @abbashaider86683 жыл бұрын

    I had a Golf R. Great daily car. Due to the Covid lockdown I wasnt driving it as much and when I did take it out it didnt give me that special driving feel that a true sports car does. Even though my Golf R was modified, it still didn’t feel special enough to be a weekend only car. I sold it and bought a ND miata and turbocharged it. What an amazing car! It feels so much faster than the Golf R even though it’s a little bit slower. Driving it feels like an occasion everytime no matter how fast or slow you’re going.

  • @inox1ck
    @inox1ck4 жыл бұрын

    The miata should be easier to maintain unless it has reliability problems and more fun around corners, better as a track toy but it seems really expensive if it costs as much as the golfR, 40k?! The cup version at only 900kg+ and racing dampers and coils can do like 5 seconds faster on a 2 minute track so it’s one of the fastest turning production cars with no aero kit. As a family fast and fun car I would take the golfR Track toy- mx5

  • @gravity45b

    @gravity45b

    4 жыл бұрын

    It does have reliability problems. This generation transmission will always break regardless of usage

  • @andras.89
    @andras.894 жыл бұрын

    Those two cars price matched? In hungary there is 1,5x rate if You speck the Golf R, either the Golf R is cheap, or the Miata is expensive AF there

  • @balazspinter4832
    @balazspinter48323 жыл бұрын

    I have an mx5 and I have raced against s3 audi and I was keeping up very well I always thought because of that s3 was having some faults but if you think about it it was keeping up for 10 seconds thats around 80mph...im B roads this is what you need most of the time. Im so impressed!

  • @gooniac33
    @gooniac334 жыл бұрын

    Good stuff guys! Surprised to see them that close in lap times!! How about a video showing how just a simple tire change can help lap times??

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