2 attractive women wandering around alone in a place with a very high homicide rate, exploring dangerous jungles, what could go wrong?

@courtlandhomes

2 жыл бұрын

Very high homicide rate? How many homicides do you think there were in Boquete in the last 10 years?

@Defender78

2 жыл бұрын

Kris and Lisanne headed to Panama with good intentions and a sense of adventure. But they were naive and underprepared, and in a place where they would stick out as tourists, they decided to go hiking in skimpy shorts and showing plenty of skin, giggling and taking pictures, acting "Western". This would have been in contrast to how the local women dressed, and in opposition to local values. A prior video on this event suggests this appearance/attire *may have* triggered something in people observing them... people wanting to do harm. It sucks they met a horrible fate, but the likelihood of abduction would have been less had they not been there and behaved the way they did.

@abdullahal-shimri3091

2 жыл бұрын

Come to Chicago if you want to see homocides.

@izslat

2 жыл бұрын

@@Defender78 sounds like you just wanna blame the victim

@evanroberts2771

2 жыл бұрын

@@izslat When the victim puts themselves in harm's way, blame the victim all the way. 'Victim blaming' as you use it, is an excuse used by people who have no sense of common sense. No accountability. Do not believe in consequences.

Evil is lurking everywhere and most today have no clue. Man is the most dangerous predator.

@stormsurge9953

2 жыл бұрын

Nope, it is today's attitude, "I can do what I want". Nobody can, "Do what they want". You have to heed to the insane and the environment

@lloydburris7487

2 жыл бұрын

so true!...i spend alot of time in remote areas and would never call the local gestapo anyway, even if there was cell coverage but to go unprepared is suicide...those girls were no match for the people they encountered...that guide service would be where i'd start looking...

@stormsurge9953

2 жыл бұрын

@@lloydburris7487 Yes, remove the warning labels off of gas cans, "not to smoke". Time to cull the stupid

@AverageAmerican

2 жыл бұрын

_"Man is the most dangerous predator."_ mhmm If you're lucky you'll encounter the Human type...

@cynthiaburrus3901

2 жыл бұрын

@@lloydburris7487 Very good point.

Tour guide rescheduled the day himself and wanted to see if they had written it down or if there was any evidence that it happened. That is my speculation. I know young women now are taught that they can go and do anything they want; but the sad truth is that they cannot. Especially in countries where independent women are not accepted. The attitudes of the area you are traveling to is vitally important to your safety. No one wants to tell you that, but in many, many areas of the world, two young women traveling alone are victims just waiting to happen. Young women from modern more advanced countries a lot of times don't seem to understand that they are not safe traveling or hiking alone. My heart breaks for these two young women and their families. The lure of adventure, must be tempered with grave concerns for safety. Please please young women do not travel alone or even in pairs and think you are safe.

@jaysilverheals4445

2 жыл бұрын

the tour guide has nothing to do with it.

@FeedScrn

2 жыл бұрын

I was going to post the same thing.... There are many sexual attacks these days just in Europe on women... Then they believe that they can travel abroad and be safe? Evidently they weren't. Reminds me of the time a couple bicycled a few years ago in Aberdijan or Georgia... then met their fate there.

@tmclemons4213

2 жыл бұрын

@@FeedScrn It is frustrating to me because the climate here is that if you say these things that it is politically incorrect even though it is the truth. There are reasons that fathers in other countries will not allow their wives and daughters to travel alone even in their own cities. Oftentimes it is not to restrict their independence but merely to keep them alive and safe. You are absolutely correct my friend. It is the same in the U.S., yet our young women still think they can travel abroad without worry or heed to caution. Many times the hype and propaganda does not fit the reality. Thanks.

@marilynschroeter796

2 жыл бұрын

You are so correct!

@birdgallagher1498

2 жыл бұрын

Organ harvesting? 🙁

Two white YOUNG European women turn up in a small village attracts immediate attention of the locals. They were followed into the forest and murdered. Most likely the taxi driver tipped off some locals. Police covered it up to protect tourist trade and a full blown investigation. It's horrible and sad and a reminder to not go on any hike alone or without correct provisions. They were probably already targeted when they arrived in town anyway. Unfortunately it happens a lot. I never hike alone even here in Australia. RIP 🙏🕯️

@wiseauserious8750

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's not politically correct to say but two young white girls in a country like that or immediately going to be a target. All it takes is one man without much to lose to go for it

@Safe-and-effective

Жыл бұрын

As a person from the 3rd world, it amazes me how a lot of these white western women who tour these places are blissfully unaware of the attention they attract. Most local men are drooling over them. They can't tell?

@willyupshaw

Жыл бұрын

You are obviously correct. I think the psychology of people who look at this case and interpret it as a getting-lost-in-the-wilderness accident possess the same naive denialism that got these girls into trouble in first place.

@marknewton6984

Жыл бұрын

@@Safe-and-effective They like the attention.

@TinaLogg

11 ай бұрын

What struck me as odd....the girls has been in communication with school they were going to be helping at. When they arrive to the school they tell them they don't need them in a rude tone. I find this very odd.

They were murdered and someone out there is a killer and getting away with this crime. Bless their souls.

@lloydburris7487

2 жыл бұрын

God will sort them out...

@checktheplaylist101

2 жыл бұрын

@@lloydburris7487 No doubt and life is short!

@johncorson6599

2 жыл бұрын

I agree unfortunately .. very sad and tragic

@marjorjorietillman856

2 жыл бұрын

And sadly, this won’t be the last time 2 women that will travel in places that are dangerous in more ways than one, so they can feel fulfilled or something on their bucket list.

@dcallins

2 жыл бұрын

My guess is there were killed my a local from the city or forrest.

Reminds me of the guy who went on a solo hike in Hawaii, posting pics to social media and he never returned nor was he ever found. In one of the pics he posted, there was a person- in one of the pics, obviously following him, so scary.

@girlmeetshistory

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve heard about that case and seen the creepy photo of what looks to be someone in the brush… scary stuff!

@CB500Xoo7

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting, haven’t heard of this Hawaii one or that angle. Going to look into it. If you have a name or any further details please share, thank you.

@brendamagic2223

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I saw the Story about the boy from Hawaii I think as humans we tend to be naive but evil is out there!!!!

@doomsdaybooty1072

2 жыл бұрын

I remember that Hawaii case... I remember thinking the picture of the dude allegedly following him was a little sketchy, like could've been pareidolia. Or maybe a murderer was following him. Hard to say

@MissMy5.0

2 жыл бұрын

Lived and worked in Hawaii. It is crazy dense and often bodies are not found. Not to mention the pigs that will eat anything. Super creepy!!!

Happy Holidays to you, Bryan, and to everyone that reads this. I really appreciate the way that Bryan shares these stories. The empathy can be heard in his voice.

@marilynschroeter796

2 жыл бұрын

My feelings exactly! I so enjoy his stories!

@CR-ru1kw

2 жыл бұрын

Likewise & thank you from NYC 🎄😊!

@Korrieification

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree 👍

@checktheplaylist101

2 жыл бұрын

😷tov!!

@burielsimpson6728

2 жыл бұрын

In the name of Jesus Christ our Lord and savior 🙏 ❤

The biggest error they made was to go hiking by themselves. You do not do that in a foreign country period!!! Condolences to their respective families 🙏

@bopa3933

2 жыл бұрын

You don't do it at all, hiking alone is likely one of the top reasons people go missing.

@wooskionehundred1788

2 жыл бұрын

They weren’t hiking by themselves. The Tour guide was there. The cab driver raise suspicion as well.

@nickyblue4866

2 жыл бұрын

Hey that sounds kind of politically incorrect.

@bopa3933

2 жыл бұрын

@@wooskionehundred1788 They weren’t hiking with a guide, I don’t know where you got that idea. Before they went missing it was just Lisanne, Kris, and the dog hiking.

@bopa3933

2 жыл бұрын

@JimoTex22 PTSD lol as if missing people were NEVER armed, come on you’re being delusional if you think a gun protects you from everything.

My Uncle Ronald Scott Gray went hunting in Idaho in 2008 and went missing. He was a true woodsman, a Combat Marine who served with 1st Batallion 9th Marines in Vietnam and was a Captain with Massachusetts State Police. He has never been found. His story is on line. I wish we could have some closure.

@jannyhawkins7135

2 жыл бұрын

So sorry to hear that.

@catherinerosner970

2 жыл бұрын

So sorry for your loss and unexplained story. Sad and scary too.

@wildheartxxx135

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear that

@kimberlyquinlan6788

2 жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry for your loss and your family's loss.

@1990hondarc30

2 жыл бұрын

@@kimberlyquinlan6788 thank you

Bryan this a truly bizarre mystery. Two fair skinned attractive young ladies should never go hiking in a foreign country. In this day and age, there are too many weird people roaming this earth.

Life today is dangerous enough in your home countries, without traveling alone to impoverished third world places abroad, especially young women alone. RIP, hearts out to the families.

@moniquemonicat

2 жыл бұрын

Very true.

@wildheartxxx135

2 жыл бұрын

True!

@onefeather2

2 жыл бұрын

Well said and so true. These third world countries may look pretty and are beautiful but their living and belief's are very different. you are Not safe traveling around being women , why don't people wake up .

@Janellabelle

2 жыл бұрын

You're right we should live in fear our whole lives and never really get the chance to truly live, and btw, statistically, my US city is far FAR more dangerous per capita for homicides than all of Panama combined. Just my city alone, in the USA.

@indemniman1623

2 жыл бұрын

@@Janellabelle Maybe you should move.

Merry Christmas to you! Thank you for putting out a video tonight especially. It’s my first Xmas without my Dad, he passed 83 days ago. I have a hard time sleeping on the best of nights, let alone Xmas Eve! So again, thank you so much. 😊💕🎄

@javierrangel3020

2 жыл бұрын

Wishing you a great Christmas, and a better new year!

@gbosearcher-3686

2 жыл бұрын

Hugs… all the firsts are hard. I am sure you have many great memories of him.

@Kimvisible

2 жыл бұрын

@@gbosearcher-3686 Thank you so much, you are so sweet. 😊

@Kimvisible

2 жыл бұрын

@@javierrangel3020 I appreciate your kind words, thank you! 😊 Happy Holidays! 💕

@ringo1692

2 жыл бұрын

Kim, I want to offer my sincere condolences on your Dad's passing. I can't imagine what you are going through but if I may share my belief that our loved ones that have passed are always with us, even guiding and comforting us in ways we can't always feel at the time but they are there! Looking back over the years I've realized this to be true and with it helped me find strength at some of my weakest moments! I hope you may find encouragement in this as I have! Someday soon you'll be looking at the sky, a flower, maybe an animal and you'll smile and feel your burden be lifted, secure in the knowledge you aren't alone! I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Very Happy and Healthy New Year filled with joy, success and happiness!!! Peace my friend ✌️😎👍

The way you narrate your stores are captivating. You don't bore us on and on with useless info as some tend to do. They lose me a minute or two in but you just up and tell the facts as you know it right from the get go and you have a good tone of voice to keep us interested in your words. Hope you have no long haul issues left over from your accident and that you're doing ok💞🇨🇦

I put my money on the guide. We’ll never know unless he commits another crime and is caught. I wish young women would realize it is never safe to be in isolated places unless you are in a large group! Predators are always looking for opportunities. Rest in Peace

@seancidy6008

2 жыл бұрын

I think you would get very short odds.

@bobgillis1137

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed. My sister and a friend were assaulted while hitchhiking back in the '70s. It was an unsuccessful rape, as they kicked him in the nads and ran off. But it could just as easily have resulted in tragedy.

@Janellabelle

2 жыл бұрын

Of course we realize that. All women realize they are always* in some level of danger from men. It just comes down to making a choice of playing the odds of going on a hike plenty of women had been on before and made it out fine, or living in fear your entire life never doing anything fun or getting to experience anything and still possibly getting killed in your own home or walking to your car from the grocery store in broad daylight. Getting shot in your front yard setting up a yard sale. We are always in danger. Always. I'm sitting in my house right now alone with the doors locked, a pitbull, and a gun, so I'm taking about as much precautions as I can take, yet still I'm in a good bit of danger from a violent male. I'd rather be hiking in a jungle.

@georginamannor4373

Жыл бұрын

Those poor girls.

@anjou6497

Жыл бұрын

I have to agree, if you mean the creepy older guide. 🧡🌱

I think it's messed up that the host family turned them away w/ no where to stay for a whole week. The reason you arrange to stay with a family is so they can help guide you & protect you in a foreign country.

@saltpeter7429

2 жыл бұрын

There are disturbing clue's and details to this case. A lot of video's here on youtube about this. The dog was ruled out I believe, as in dog didnt have much to do with them. Check out these video's, host's are very odd. Tour guide assisted by host to search their hostel immediately after girls were declared missing. Very wierd stuff, check it out. It's not a reach at all to imagine a number of parties were complicit...

@juliajohnson5276

2 жыл бұрын

Not if they turned up early.

@starrynyts1844

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like trafficking was planned.

@jannyhawkins7135

2 жыл бұрын

@@starrynyts1844 yeah, but didn’t they find their bones, meaning they both passed away? Or someone killed these poor girls.

@starrynyts1844

2 жыл бұрын

@@jannyhawkins7135 maybe something went wrong or got messy and they just decided to rape and kill em. I think as westerners, we underestimate the savagery that goes on beyond the tourist traps in underdeveloped countries. Just stay in the tourist trap y'all.

This is such a very sad story... Since hearing about this, I've always felt that they were murdered. Just my opinion.

Kidnapped, murdered, partial remains scattered, bones bleached to hide DNA, personal belongings left about, made to look like they had an accident. My guess is tour guide was involved. Also, no way that dog went back to the host families house from there, doubt he was even there. This case seems so mysterious but its probably pretty simple

@maxmaxs9608

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. The Tour Guide Feliciano Gonzales either killed them or he´s covering up the crime for his deeply criminal son, Henry Elizar Gonzales and his gang, consisting off Jorge Murgas (dead), Jorge Rivera Miranda (dead), Osman Velezuales (dead) and Heriberto Gonzales (dead). Plineo Montenegro, Edwin Aquirre and Vega Moises know what happend. They all know what happend.

@Defender78

2 жыл бұрын

12:18 brilliant observation,about the flash usage. The 2 girls were kidnapped and they are gear and belongings were fiddled with. I know that there are some theories out there that maintain that they got lost and fell off a bridge, but I believe it's the more sinister likelihood.

@tsam3338

2 жыл бұрын

Well we do know 1 thing for sure, only one knows were they went that day was the taxi cab driver, he knew the dog was with him obviously. Very strange. Hope they got taxi drivers fingerprints as well as tour guides too.

@NadaYoTengo

2 жыл бұрын

I live in Boquete.Fact: host family doesn't even own a dog!

@NadaYoTengo

2 жыл бұрын

@@carolina_girl3484 The host family can't lie about a dog they don't have. Blue lived miles away.

1) The guide Feliciano claimed the women booked a hiking tour (not on El Pianista) with him on 2nd April and when they did not turn up for the tour, he immediately rushed to where they were staying on the 2nd and even entered their room (to do what?) ... why would a tour guide be so overly concerned about total strangers? 2) No one knows for sure if the dog followed the women on the hike. 3) Why is there a gap of 10 days before the barrage of photos in the dark. What was so special that early morning that they suddenly whipped out the camera and snap away maniacally but in the prior 10 days, there was not a single camera activity. 4) It seems, attached to Lisanne's leg bone was a ROLLED UP PIECE OF SKIN. Skin, we would assume is one of the earliest of body parts to decompose fully, within a few days in a jungle environment. So how did some of Lisanne's skin remain weeks or months after she passed but not a trace of her large bones and skull could be found? ....and dozens more other questions....which unfortunately will go unanswered. Lisanne's and probably Kris' parents have given up and just accepted the deaths of their daughters.

@norml.hugh-mann

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Its very sad

@nottheeviltwin6

2 жыл бұрын

Their tour guide had some really bad reviews (i think on Yelp at one point) from solo female hikers saying he was a creep but sprinkled around those bad reviews are the good ones when he did family tours.

@kenlee1416

2 жыл бұрын

@@nottheeviltwin6 Don't know about Yelp but on Tripadvisor, the guide gets good reviews by all reviewers, except for the last one (who has only 1 review). While we should not blindly accuse the guide of committing something which may not have occurred, his actions especially on 2nd April, should really have been questioned by the authorities. It may also be of interest that his son has been alleged to be part of a local gang - and not long after the disappearance of the young ladies, two of the gang members were found dead (and dead about a year later in shallow waters, was the taxi driver who supposedly brought the ladies to the trail on that day). Who knows if these are all connected, or not. No proper investigations were done.

@seancidy6008

2 жыл бұрын

@@nottheeviltwin6 Or faked favourable reviews of them.

@seancidy6008

2 жыл бұрын

@@carolina_girl3484 Most likely explanation for the state of Lisanne remains by my way of thinking is she was buried in a high altitude (cool) grave. She had shin splints and a foot bone fracture so maybe there came a point where she could not keep up. I think Lisanne's personality was such that she would become hysterical and difficult to control with threats. Kris was more stable and strikingly attractive (also smaller). I think she was kept alive longer because she was taken to a ranch with buildings she could be kept in. To me, the night photos taken at 3am in a rainstorm are not very convincing evidence that Krish had been in the cloud forrst for a week, Her hair is all we can see but its not matted and looks much too clean.

Someone definitely did something to those women. I really hope they get justice and their family gets closure.

Learn from this girls don’t go hiking alone especially overseas .

@siggifreud812

2 жыл бұрын

stuff like this happens in the US all of the time. girls, never go hiking alone, regardless of which country you are in.

@checktheplaylist101

2 жыл бұрын

@@siggifreud812 I I would wager it happens more often in Third World countries.

@AverageAmerican

2 жыл бұрын

The girls were not alone. They were together. Regardless, women are not going to start hiring bodyguards to go on vacation.

@privatehudson4432

2 жыл бұрын

@@AverageAmerican says the couch potatoe

@AverageAmerican

2 жыл бұрын

@@privatehudson4432 You get one more guess!

If they took the dog why isn't he in ANY of their pictures????? That dog story was just added by someone making assumptions. Everyone who has covered this just passed the information instead of fact checking or verifying it!!

@nickyblue4866

2 жыл бұрын

There was no dog. The photos are faked and photoshopped (and poorly).

@jannyhawkins7135

2 жыл бұрын

I was wondering the same thing

@Stevesmkspot

2 жыл бұрын

How’d the dog get across the cable bridges??…

@stevew278

3 ай бұрын

Agreed, there was no dog. The guy making this video is fixated on the dog like it’s an undisputed fact. I’m surprised I made it to the end with his constant mention of it.

@avgrim7729

3 ай бұрын

@@stevew278 Well there was a dog named Azul who accompanies tourists from time to time and he went with the parents when they came to search but he wasn't with the girls that day or they would have for sure took photos of him on their hike to the Mirador.

The criminals they were warned about probably lived in that very village and took the trail to the summit to prey on tourists including these two, the fact that they stopped taking pictures after the summit meant they had no access to their camera or backpack, why stop taking pics unless you can't? Suddenly, in the middle of the night, somebody starts taking pictures but who? I would guess that whoever got it from the girls, got it out and started playing. The bras mystery is CRAY! Two girls wear bras in town but ditch them as soon as they can...that's your mystery? The camera is the key and where it was retrieved wasn't where it was stolen, they were abducted and marched toward to village and killed deep in the jungle where the night pics were taken and left for the animals, the camera went to the village with the killers but somebody's mother figured out that it was evidence and made them put everything back in it and she left it in an unlikely place because they can't put it back at the crime scene. It seems obvious to me that they must have been abducted at the summit and must have been taken to the murder scene and their backpack was taken on to the village by the killers so the "mystery" is why a village will lie to protect a son, brother or father over tourists when preying on them is their thing. How do you convict a whole village when Bryan is in doubt? Some of them did it, some of them know it but none of them will tell it.

@Malibu_Dawn

2 жыл бұрын

Spot on, yoursotruly, spot on. The abductors took the camera from the girls at the summit.

@jannyhawkins7135

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, that makes sense.

@jshaw4757

2 жыл бұрын

Remember your phone only lasts a few days maybe 4 on one charge so in that 10 days gap the phones must have been charged somewhere

@mr.b.3633

2 жыл бұрын

@@jshaw4757 Yes possible with a power bank etc.

@Aaron25bY

Жыл бұрын

What would be the motive in killing them though?

I believe they were stalked and knew that before sun down, hence the many attempts to dial emergency services. I've seen another video on this story but more detailed. The mother of one of the girls went to that location and on the same trail and stated its almost impossible to get lost away from the trail because the trail is so well defined. In my opinion those many pictures that were taken in the dark with flash weren't to see what was in front of them but they were hearing movement around them and they were trying to see what or who was there with them via the camera flash. Seems they found out before they were captured and killed, because the missing image that was permanently deleted according to investigation could only be done if it was connected to a computer

@aprilarlidge2807

Жыл бұрын

The first picture that was deleted was the first nighttime photo and was probably black because they forgot to turn on the flash. The police likely deleted the photo because it was just black.

@t.j.mccowan6584

Жыл бұрын

I belive ur 100% correct here.sorry to say.

@frankjones3671

9 ай бұрын

These beautiful awesome amazing smart looking wows girl s delightful s ! So with that being s saids they're atractraction is enough . There's only 1-answer s why they are not goings down some one or something's behinds ! On tops ofs beings lost & panic sets ins there lost forevers someone s cought up toos them boiled bones are chalked white ! So sads either way s these young's girl s needs toget justice accountability folks as family's.needs closers there's fouls plays here's as the back packs beens kept dry in someone s house placed there's toos hides the reals truths of what becames ofs these young's girl s !! Thank you

@pizzafrenzyman

8 ай бұрын

But why didn't they take any photos in the many days between 508 and 510?

They were assaulted and killed---eventually one of the locals will talk. God rest their Souls. Female hikers take note.

What a gift Bryan! So many are posting less videos right now and you are just jammin! Thank you Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas if you celebrate❤ Unfortunately, so many of these lost ppl start by going somewhere under conditions that just are not safe. In this case these 2 girls who didnt pack for emergencies, were new to the area and tho intelligent were naive to the dangers.

Did no one tell these lovely, generous, vulnerable young women that Panama has almost double the violent crime rate as The Netherlands? Did no one Advise them that if there is an unfamiliar wilderness, typically requiring a guide, than they probably shouldn’t go there themselves? Not victim-blaming. Just frustrated!!!

@thesacredmountain3448

2 жыл бұрын

Only double?

Best coverage of this story I've seen! Terrible tragedy. I can't imagine what they went through :(

....and people used to give me grief over wearing my. 38 when I went on a solo hike with just my dog, or when camping with my family, but guess what, it worked, no one can ever seem to realized that hiking/camping is dangerous, I've always believed that some serial killers look for their victims in the isolated wilderness of our national parks and forests...but if you are going in to the woods its a good idea to at least have a gun in their backpack, and I'm not a gun nut or anything but I am a realist and always would carry a gun for protection in the woods...these were terrific kids, sincere condolences to the families, and girls, think about what I'm saying and believe that this sort of thing can happen....protect yourselves....

@yuibot5998

2 жыл бұрын

I carry everywhere it is legal to do so...basically everywhere but work or places like hospitals and court houses. If you have a good gun and holster, you hardly even notice you have it. It becomes automatic like your wallet and keys....and it's always better to have it and not need it. If that makes me a "gun nut" so be it. It's a ridiculous term.

@TheMattTrakker

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think anyone would confuse you for a gun nut when you admit that you carry a .38

I heard with that type of camera you can delete a picture but that one particular picture was permanently deleted. Which means it would have had to been hooked up to some sort of computer to permanently delete.

@stephengrenfell1732

2 жыл бұрын

Creepy, right!

@secondact7151

2 жыл бұрын

I have that camera. When you look at the pictures, it is actually easy to accidentally delete a photo, even the permanent delete. I think they were in the pitch black jungle. Heard sounds. Were shaking like crazy from fear. Took pictures. Then shaking in terror were looking at the photos and accidentally hit delete.

@bellab9286

2 жыл бұрын

@@secondact7151 yup and I think they just got lost and perished not from foul play. How could they be allowed to keep their phones to call 911 so many times. I think they got turned around or stepped off trail for some reason and that's what got them in trouble. Seems to happen to ppl all the time...

@21313cord21

2 жыл бұрын

Doesn't the cloud always save pictures.

@secretsecret179

2 жыл бұрын

@@21313cord21 At that time cloud connected cameras were very rare, also there was not cellphone reception or internet there.

What I find weird is a few people these women interacted with also died - including two fellow tourists and the cab driver - all dead.

Hey Bryan and everybody. This case is the most bazaar as any I've erer heard. Its like a "Wrong Turn" kinda scarey. Gives me the heebie jeebies.

Merry Christmas, Bryan.

Merry Christmas Bryan. Wishing you many blessings on this Christmas Eve🎄🎄🎅🏼💜

Merry christmas & I love your way of telling these stories. Its the way we would hear some news we heard from a family member. I hope you have much success from your channel!!

From what I have heard these two young women were experienced hikers. The reason they had little water, and no over night gear would be based on the fact they knew this trail was well marked, and one way up, one way down affair. My theory is they got to the summit, took their pictures, and started back down the trail. However, they must have noticed some one followed them, and they either went over the back side of the mountain in an attempt to evade the threat, or were herded in that direction. I think, in essence, this is pretty "simple" case. Two young, and pretty women, of no intent of their own, attracted the wrong kind of attention.

@chechuivanov1706

Жыл бұрын

They continue moving forward from the summit. Picture 508 is on the other side of the trial, they never returned to the where they started their journey.

@nevereverlistens

Жыл бұрын

If they were, "experienced" they would have taken more water with them and not hiked without protection (a guide or a few guides, an AK47). They were not, "experienced". Hiking on a day trip does not constitute, "experience"

@mikatu

Жыл бұрын

No mate, they returned from the hike and went to a waterfall to relax with a group of 3 local boys. The shop keeper saw them entering their car since they didn't manage to call a taxi.

@nevereverlistens

Жыл бұрын

@@mikatu Are you saying, "The were not killed on the hike but somewhere else and then the body parts were taken back up the trail?

@scottwalker6947

Жыл бұрын

@@mikatu The authorities believe that instead of going back down the marked trail, to the village where they were staying. They continued down the other side of the mountain. Now, that suggests to me that there was someone on the trail between them and the village. Someone they really didn't want to get involved with.

Great video, Bryan. You are such an empath. Thanks, so much. Your passion is much appreciated.

A video on Christmas Day! 💛 Thank you Bryan and 🎄Happy Holidays!🎁 I've never heard of this case (these two ladies were from my neighbour country--I'm German)! I'll watch it again as my pets distracted me, but some of the things that were discovered/came to light make me think foul play. Wish LE had released more details. I hope the girls' families get more answers sooner rather than later.🖤

Happy Holidays, Bryan. So happy that I found you and this channel. You really make a difference n my life. Thank you for all you do.

Merry Christmas to you Bryan. You seem like such a genuinely nice and good hearted person. I thoroughly enjoy your channel and videos. Have a wonderful holiday man

Cheers bro. Merry Christmas and happy holidays to you and everyone. Prayers and thoughts to all of those who didn't make it home. 🙏✌Hope you all have a really good year coming up.

I've researched this case myself and there was a more than one case in the area. I think these tourists were being murdered.

@maxmaxs9608

2 жыл бұрын

100%. The girls were murdered. The Tour Guide Feliciano Gonzales either killed them or he´s covering up the crime for his deeply criminal son, Henry Elizar Gonzales and his gang, consisting off Jorge Murgas (dead), Jorge Rivera Miranda (dead), Osman Velezuales (dead) and Heriberto Gonzales (dead). Plineo Montenegro, Edwin Aquirre and Vega Moises know what happend.

@ryancuda45

2 жыл бұрын

@@maxmaxs9608 sounds like you got it wrapped up.

@checktheplaylist101

2 жыл бұрын

@@maxmaxs9608 Ever wonder if organ harvesting played a role..

@lizc6393

2 жыл бұрын

Then how were they continuously calling 911 and taking photos?

@TheMattTrakker

2 жыл бұрын

@@lizc6393 How do you know THEY were?

Those two women were attacked by two other unknown men who followed them for a while before they actually attacked the women.

@Malibu_Dawn

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@Ellemerob

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Explains why both girls were minus their bras and at least one of them minus her shorts.

@haithemcherif1077

2 жыл бұрын

4 men or more. Girls might have been overpowered

Thank you for your thoughtful, kind remarks Bryan! I hope you are having a wonderful Christmas 🎄!

Bryan, Thank you for sharing this sad story. As you mentioned, a lot of the investigation is missing. My heart goes out to their families. I hope you had a Merry Christmas and will have a Happy New Year. I have enjoyed your website and watching your subscriber numbers increase! Wishing you all the best!

At their young ages and regardless of being well educated, many of us feel invincible. Probably, the excitement of being in a new and amazing place clouded their judgment. The pain the families are experiencing is beyond my comprehension . Please know that other people hope you finally have answers. What awesome young ladies !

@fernandochavez4312

2 жыл бұрын

As an old man having done many dumb things, I agree with you.

@lloydburris7487

2 жыл бұрын

another reason to not let your daughters go to some third world country to find there thrills!...

@stormsurge9953

2 жыл бұрын

Nope, it is today's attitude, "I can do what I want". Nobody can, "Do what they want". You have to heed to the insane and the environment

@stormsurge9953

2 жыл бұрын

You must be a Baby Boomer. You don't understand the Extreme Feminize that is going on. Nothing wrong with feminism until it gets extreme. They actually believed that no harm can come to them because the liberal god said so.

@vmm5163

2 жыл бұрын

@@stormsurge9953 But feminism is completely different from equality. Feminists are more likely to be Narcissists or have other attention seeking behaviours. In fact feminists have apparently been found to also have high levels of testosterone. The extreme feminism you talk about are personality disordered individuals, completely different from young optimistic people who don't believe anything will happen to them. Our brains only develop maturity aged 25 or so, so young people think they're invincible

What happened is unfortunately a lesson in why nobody should feel so overconfident or naive when in an unfamiliar area. One rule of thumb when traveling abroad, to measure general societal safety, is the police wages in relation to poverty levels. Where police wages are low, unreported and unsolved crime is often high. Even more disturbing is that police often become involved in criminal behavior. Often this target wealthy tourists and foreigners. An example is India, a place where police are often involved in the gang kidnappings of westerners who will hold them in local prisons for the gangs who are collecting the ransoms. Criminals are everywhere in society and impoverished areas are often a place where there can be a concentration of criminal activity. In these circumstances impoverished individuals living often off a few dollars a year might be tempted to take the opportunity to improve their lot by committing a heinous crime. Then there is the issue of the general rate of deviants in society. Sexual predators exist even in these areas and are opportunists much like they are in America and other developed countries. With the low level of sophistication in police technology they can exist for decades without interference from the law. It would seem, sadly these young women encountered one such individual. Robbery wasn't the motive as the money and other valuables were in the backpack that was obviously in someone's possession from the time they went missing. This means it was someone who had no need of the money and wanted something else instead.

@nickyblue4866

2 жыл бұрын

R*ped and murdered or trafficked

@reesedaniel5835

2 жыл бұрын

@@nickyblue4866 Rapists, murderers and traffickers would have most assuredly taken the money as well..

@littleredwitch

2 жыл бұрын

Great thinking and absolutely valid. I have traveled and lived in Sth East Asia and I’d rather trust a taxi driver than a cop in Thailand, Borneo, mainland Indonesia (never!), Bali; I would trust them mildly in KL but would listen to my gut feelings first...

@socket_error1000

2 жыл бұрын

@@littleredwitch Very true. Thailand is a good example where police are often involved in tourist cons. The jet ski rental damage con is popular in SE Asia where the rental operator claims damage and police come in and threaten to incarcerate the tourist if they don't pay. These are relatively benign criminal acts but it is a simple example of how greed and opportunity can persuade people to take advantage of foreigners.

@socket_error1000

2 жыл бұрын

@@reesedaniel5835 You would think that would be the case. Unless they really didn't have a need and were willing to give it up in an effort to throw investigators off their trail. The search and international effort was rather fast and might have kept the perpetrator from using the money or disposing of the items. There is also the possibility the bag was just stolen from a riverbank as the women were bathing. It would explain the bras being inside the bag. Still if theft was a motivation why not spend the money? I am more inclined to think the bag was a souvenir kept by the perpetrator and later left in another location to distract investigators.

I wish you a beautiful and contented Christmas, Bryan. Keep well and thank you for your hard work. ❤️🎄❤️ Happy 2022!

I did put off seeing this case as it has been done over and over. However I think you really bring this case down to earth and provide very realistic and logical theories which gives better insight than the traditional theories.

I remember hearing this story awhile back. Here's my thoughts on it. The dog didn't go up the mountain with them. Someone at the summit made them uncomfortable so they went into the rugged terrain hoping they wouldn't be followed. The girl fell at some point, got a gash in her head and a concussion. They were however being followed. After the injury, they were then forced to march deeper into the wilderness, raped and murdered. The girls were murdered in different places. Murderer scattered clothing and backpack. A hunter found the backpack, brought it home, then when the news hit, or after they realized they had the girls backpack they placed it out in the field and said they found it there. Animals are known to drag bones around to pick off the meat. So their bones were scattered by animals after they were killed.

@thesacredmountain3448

2 жыл бұрын

One set of bones was bleached with chemicals that only humans would be using.

@aprilarlidge2807

Жыл бұрын

They made repeated calls to emergency services (911 or 112) between April 1st - April 4th.

@whotendsthefire7234

Жыл бұрын

The dog didn't go up there because of the Bigfoot. Sasquatch were known to rape first nations women. They have two rows of teeth for ripping apart flesh. They are cannibals. Very scary and very sad for those people.

@catsexual3412

Жыл бұрын

you need to write novels.

@Sandoz-tq7qj

11 ай бұрын

I agree, thanks, Sherlock !🕵

The 1st searches were by a group organized by the tour guide. The government didn't start searching for at least 5 days or more. They didn't immediately do shit!!

Right back to you same Bryan, and Merry Christmas to you. This story certainly is tragic for sure, your viewpoint was presented accurately as well as professionally. As usual. Happy New Year!

Happy Holidays, Bryan. Thanks for the great work. Love the channel.

The backpack was brought back to the local tribes village . A counsel of the elders was held the evening it was found . The counsel debated and came to the agreement that one of the women in the tribe would be the one to bring the backpack to LE. This was done to ensure no men in the village were looked at as suspect . This tribe was very Leary of working with the government and LE because at the time the government was trying to take back this tribes ancestral land . So hence , the multiple finger prints on the backpack and why the items were dried / dry when handed over . Due to it being in the tribal village for at least 24 hours

@lloydburris7487

2 жыл бұрын

the locals were definitely holding back evidence...in America they would have been incriminated by the lack of support they offered....Americans!...do not go there!!!

@SD0224

2 жыл бұрын

@@lloydburris7487 they were holding back only due to the fact that at that time the government there was trying to grab more of the tribal land away from them that hand been theirs since their ancestors . So the tribes didn’t want to give the government any reason to accuse them of anything to justify taking land aWay .the backpack wasn’t given to authorities immediately due to that reason . Also in most tribes major decisions that affect all tribe members are usually decides by an elder counsel before acting upon anything. That is why the backpack was dry and things were neat . The person who found it brought it to their elders to ask what should be done . The counsel met and talked and came up with a conclusion hence time to have things dry off.

@synthiaofulster8388

2 жыл бұрын

@@lloydburris7487 thousands of u.s. citizens live there. Also, it's in America. Central America. I think you meant to say U.S. citizens, or North Americans? (which would also include Mexico and Canada though so probably not)

@lloydburris7487

2 жыл бұрын

@@synthiaofulster8388 i never mentioned a country, or which country the men who killed these girls probably came from but my point was why go to a strange country, take off into the jungle and not be prepared to defend yourself, and subject yourself to to the whims of whoever they might run into...Happy holidays to you...

@redwoodtrail

2 жыл бұрын

LMFAO are you serious? As an American, it’s a true epidemic of the “don’t be a snitch” mindset in black communities where women and kids are gunned down everyday! And it smaller, rural areas, it’s a very “hush hush” mindset. Don’t get me wrong, most I know are helpful and would be willing to speak to police to help someone in need but there’s a real issue in our country. Don’t deny it.

This is probably the darkest and most puzzling case I've heard of. I first heard of it years ago from alternate sources.

Love to listen! Thanks for all you do.

Thank you for this respectful and compassionate video. Amazing job.

I have watched several vids about these girls and really don't know whether it was foul play or accidental. I do think the authorities did a piss poor job on their investigation whether deliberately or just incompetence. I also think the girls were exceptionally naïve and foolish when they had never been in a jungle before and never even in that country before. I have traveled extensively by myself both in the US and other countries but would never, even when I was younger, gone off like that. Yes I mingled with locals as much as I could to learn their culture and improve my knowledge of their languages and customs but never went off alone, I stayed with large groups of people. Nor did I ever go into wild country where I didn't know the flora or fauna or what other dangers might lurk there and the two legged predators are far more dangerous than the four, six, eight legged or no legged varieties. It is sad what happened to them but I doubt anyone will ever know the truth.

@lloydburris7487

2 жыл бұрын

you think the same way i do, these women were taken by evil men and had no chance once they were out in the woods...they were crazy to do it and they paid the ultimate price, god rest there souls....

@seancidy6008

2 жыл бұрын

We know exactly what happened as do people in Boquete. But the girls were not Panamanians so no one cares much.

@stormsurge9953

2 жыл бұрын

If people don't prepare before you go someone dangerous properly, then police would not have to get involve. it is today's attitude, "I can do what I want". Nobody can, "Do what they want". People have to head to the insane and the environment

@siggifreud812

2 жыл бұрын

25% chance it was an accident, gone wrong. 75% chance it was a nefarious incident.

@stormsurge9953

2 жыл бұрын

Of course they did, it is a Banana Republic. You don't expect Western Service in Banana Republic do you? Also, there is a stigma for young ladies running around in Latin countries. Their attitude-is, "They shouldn't be far from home or without the safety of a man". I am not saying, "it is right". Just saying, "That is the way it is in those countries"

Merry Christmas! 🎄

Appreciate the channel. Merry Christmas my friend!!

Merry Christmas Bryan. I love listening to you.

Loved the video! Thank you! The tour guide is the one who killed these girls look more into his past! Also there was a lot of people going missing from there at that time bit was covered up by authorities so it would harm the tourist trade! Keep up your great work!

This case really bothers me. I hope the family finds out the truth.

@wildheartxxx135

2 жыл бұрын

Same,those poor girls :(

Merry Christmas Brian, you are a ray of light in this sometimes dark world. I so enjoy your channel, you are so kind and respectful.

@bawattsyl

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Cindy, happy holidays to you and yours and thank you for you kind words and support 🙏

Your a pleasure to listen to my friend. God Bless from Canada.

Merry Christmas Bryan

The area that these two disappeared in was a tourist attraction. If something nefarious occurred, the authorities would be under pressure to sweep it under the rug to not affect tourism.

@bohemiantheologian6443

2 жыл бұрын

True, but they should of also have been motivated by a quicker response for the girls but also for the tourist dollars.

I wish you happiness in the new year 2022 and hope you've had a wonderful holiday season. You're my favorite narrator for these cases because you're just so sweet and respectful. Thank you for bringing us these amazing, mysterious life stories.

I just found your channel and I love it. Great work!

It was quite risky for these two girls to venture out into the wild in the rainforest area. At the Khao Sok nationalpark in the South of Thailand they had put up a controllpoint saying... don't carry on walking after 4 p.m. in Khao Sok it can get dangerous because of wild elephants and poss. tigers. In Panama there are no bigger dangerous animals, no reports of jaguars atacking people. The most dangerous thing in those central america region are poachers, drug lords, villians... I stayed at a campsite within the Kaeng Krachan nationalpark, witnessing wild elephants venturing about at night (a bit scary), a chinese traveller took a pic of a leopard from the jeep. At the Amazon region I was fascinated by the wildlife, huge spider, cute snakes and kaimans,

@nickyblue4866

2 жыл бұрын

They met the most dangerous animal.... man...

@secretsecret179

2 жыл бұрын

Could one of the girls have been bitten by a spider - which lead to subsequent trouble?

No way that skin should still have been there!! Extremely scary!! Poor girls! Great job on this one I did love your thoughts about the the night pictures. This & Delphi are those ones that drive me crazy I want answers for their families!! I also live about 30 minutes from Delphi, but just want them solved so badly.

Happy Christmas mate! Luve your vids! take Care n be healthy =)

Great observation about why the photos may have been taken! Must be the 10th time I've heard this tragic story and the 1st time I've ever heard such a plausible and new explanation. Great work and humbling tribute as always.

Happy holidays Brian you have a God given talent to story telling about these people that need their cases open and help maybe to solve them

I know some van lifers that live there. They love it. They say it's an amazing little town. This is so sad.

Merry Christmas love your channel

Merry Christmas. God bless you and yours. Thanks for being so kind, thought full and truly caring about people and the love ones left behind..

With ALL the evidens, I think that defenedly this was not an accident. I think they were prisoned for days somewhere and after that it was tried to stage as an accident. Hope that this case will be opened for investigation that the that truth would come out and relatives could have some peace.

They are dressed for a day at the beach 10’ from the car, not a wilderness hike. Also, if they were lost or just injured why not record a video with an explanation on a phone? Young, attractive westerners should never travel in sketchy countries without being part of a secure group.

@lloydburris7487

2 жыл бұрын

Amen to that!....

@lizc6393

2 жыл бұрын

Ah! Holy cow, that's a really good point. Brilliant input. I've seen goodbye videos from people lost and dying, I know I would definitely do that... I used to think it was an accident, now I'm not sure.

@thesacredmountain3448

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. They didn’t even use the notes features on their phones to type a final message or something to clue their families in on what happened to them? Not buying that at all.

You are so special Bryan. amazing how you present cases, thorough and compassionate.

Merry Christmas Bryan! Love your videos!

It's up loads just like this that adds to the misinformation , contradictions , confusions and it's so repetitive .

The girls might have heard something sneaking up on them in the dark....thinking it was an animal, they took pictures with flash to scare it. It was likely the 2 legged most deadly predator

@truthseekerjen6254

2 жыл бұрын

Sasquatch LOL or alien those are all two legged also

@mr.b.3633

2 жыл бұрын

PLease do check a video of the pianista trail behind the mirador. The area is not loking like a preadator is living there. Its rocky and steepy area there.

@AverageAmerican

2 жыл бұрын

@@truthseekerjen6254 Alien most likely.

@thesacredmountain3448

2 жыл бұрын

@@mr.b.3633 there are villages over there. The tour guide lived over there. There have been dozens of murders and missing persons cases along that trail.

@mckady4869

Жыл бұрын

I watched this story on a different channel. In one of the pictures taken at night, there appears to possibly be a person in the lower right corner circled in red.

Finally a you tuber that pronounce Boquete correct! Love your material.

Hope your new year is great. Love your channel

Repetitive, but informative, it opens the doors to several possible conclusions, the most glaring is that there is a cover up. 1.) No autopsy reports 2.) No follow up reports from local authorities/ search and rescue 3.) Remains of one of the women were "bleached", which is a common method of removing evidence. But the remains of the other woman were not, hence the fact that one was dead prior to the other and that the bleaching of the remains was an attempt to hide the remains. 4.) Time lapse between first and second victim's deaths, authorities/search and rescue's presence was known to be in area thus the "rush" to dispose of the second womans remains, no bleaching, but remains were scattered. 5.) No visible signs of predation on any of the remains other than bacterial and microbial, look up "large predators" native to this region as well other dangerous local fauna. 6.) Sadly, this is a case of "abused trust", traveling in an environment you are not familiar with in 99% of critical situations. Having to rely/trust locals for the needed information for basic needs is a fact that is not unknown to the locals. We all want to believe that there are no bad people out there wanting to take advantage of foreigners or wanting to do them harm, the fact is this type of event can be found in any country regardless of its international status. Bad people do exist, that's not paranoia, that's just reality. Bad things happen to good people...daily. There is more work to be done on this case, whether the locals will ante up or dismiss this is anyone's guess. I would like to see the reports of the families of the 2 women and what their investigators found and what if any problems they had in obtaining information from the local authorities. Hopefully this case can be used as learning tool for others who choose to venture into foreign countries, you can never be too prepared.

@maxmaxs9608

2 жыл бұрын

Have the bones ever been DNA tested back in Holland?

@meloneyparker

2 жыл бұрын

@@maxmaxs9608 my understanding is that they have not been independently tested.

@maxmaxs9608

2 жыл бұрын

@@meloneyparker Wow. And the parrents just accept this?

Two young women alone in a foreign Country are bound to attract predator men. The authorities would cover up foul play because of the tourist trade.

Thank u for sharing this video. Hopefully lessens can be learned from from this tragic case.

Happy Holidays to you Bryan😊God bless🙏🏻

The decisions some people make absolutely befuddle me. I am 6'2" tall. 200 lbs. I have studied Wing Chun and Aikido. College educated. An avid cyclist. 139 IQ. And I would never do any of the shit the people in your videos do. Mind-boggling.

My guess is an evil encounter with 1 or more human predators! Women need to use common sense when hiking out in the middle of nowhere! Go with a small group, or at least be armed and know how to defend yourself!

Great presentation. Your methodology and approach to the subject is most respectfull. Your voice cadence and format is also exemplary. A job well done mate. Keep up the good work.

@bawattsyl

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I appreciate that and your kind words! Happy holidays to you and yours🙏

Binge watching your videos back to back- and adding comments for the algorithm~! 🌻👍 Keep up the great content!

God bless you Bryan 🙏Thank you for keeping these cases alive 🙏🙏🙏❣️

@jamesc2899

2 жыл бұрын

Shame on Brian for "forgetting" how to say Merry Christmas :(

@nickyblue4866

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesc2899 hey now! That term is problematic *roll eyes*

Merry Christmas!

Wishing you have a great Christmas, and joyful holidays as well.

Coffee brewing, I find your latest upload :) You sound almost like your old self, I hope you are feeling much better. Merry Christmas!

They reach the summit, they get hijacked and taken to be tortured etc. One gets killed and then a week later the other one gets killed. Their belongings were retained and then scattered to confuse investigation. The answers lay in the autopsy report....

@thesacredmountain3448

2 жыл бұрын

Smartest comment here.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Bryan!

Happy holidays Bryan! I love your good loving sweet and merciful heart! Stay good 👍🙏

It's bloody awful, but I think the last few days of these beautiful, naive young ladies' lives were probably really horrific. If you were a criminal dirtbag who was gonna sell a pretty young girl's organs, you probably wouldn't feel compelled to respect her personal sanctity in the days before you murdered her. Honestly I feel sick thinking about this